Obama claimed victory in Iraq. Iraq is teetering on the brink of a civil war that Muslim extremists will win. Does Obama own the collapse of Iraq since he has removed all American troops and declared victory in Iraq?
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"no way of knowing how it would turn out, how long it would take and who would be running it after they were gone." So Bush is responsible for the NATURE of all Wars? There was political will to fight until the Press lied and lied
The nature of all wars? Don't put words in my mouth. This was not like all wars. They didn't have to put boots on the ground in a country that had nothing to do with 911. Iraq did not attack us - regime change was all that was needed.
...had nothing to do with 911. Iraq did not attack us - regime change was all that was needed..... Seems there is a parallel to your observation. How did that whole WWll thing go again? Iraq was at war with us, starting in 1991, read your history.
You mean the same groups Obama was ready to support in Syria? The groups backed by Al Qaeda or The Muslim Brotherhood(friends of Obama)?
We never put any troops on the ground in Syria. Historically politics makes strange bedfellows. We were on the wrong side of Apartheid in South Africa. Allies become enemies. We once sold weapons and supported Iraq when they fought against Iran.
Why do you bring muslims into everything? Unless you are seriously ignorant, Al Queda is OURS. And aren't you RW'ers angry at BO because he didn't bomb Syria, Iran, etc? Please---take a position! Bomb Bomb Bomb...or not.
Allies become enemies, when has that happened. Iraq was never an ally, merely a useful tool. The hope among many was that the Iran/Iraq War would claim both regimes. The US gave aid to brutal Muslim fanatics in Syria-more Obama brilliance.
On whose behalf? Do you ever ask yourself that? Do you ever wonder why we ar always invading, deposing, violently coup-ing? What do we get out of it? Nada. Just dead kids, and rich contractors Seem to me they are not OUR enemies. Proxy war.Israel-1st
Thank you for confirming the position that when the news is good it belongs to Obama, exclusively and when it is bad it is all Bush's fault. There had been a plan to leave a significant number of American troops in Iraq, that plan was quashed by BHO
Funny how people missed your part that said "some of that blame can be put on Obama, but not all of it" junkseller.
You mean the millions who elected all of those Democrats like Hillary that went along with GOP insanity?
"We aren't there now thanks to a status of forces agreement negotiated by Bush and kept by BHO." That is almost exactly what I said, so I don't know what you are on about or why your question is putting so much blame on Obama.
I honestly think lot of these people are Israeli-Firsters, and hate Obama because Netanyahu does. They put Israel above USA, and if Obama doesn't do 100% what Bibi's wants--they get enraged. Just my view, from years of watching and listening.
BHO is President NOW. If Bush was to blame for 9-11, as lefties love to say, then BHO is to blame for what happens on his watch as Commander-in-Chief.
As for Israel Firsters(what ever that means) it seems that is the only song you know.
Congress called for withdrawal. The former administration agreed to a withdrawal. The Iraqis demanded withdrawal. The American people mostly agreed with a withdrawal. What would you do different? Be a tyrant and do as you please?
Japan was occupied by America until the 1951. West Germany was occupied until 1955. Occupation of Italy ended in 1947. Why? Because it took that long to guarantee things like Iraq today didn't happen. Winners make the terms, write the history.
Interesting choices since we still have military forces in all those places. Fact remains that the democratic choice of them and us was to remove the troops and you still didn't say how you would do anything differently.
This year's numbers show that 35 percent trusted the Fox News Channel, more than any other outlet, CBS at 9 percent, MSNBC and Comedy Central tied at 6 percent, and just 3 percent for NBC. Fox topped the list ever since the left wing poll started.
You mean despite Clinton's cry for regime change or Great General and former Democrat candidate Wesley Clark's claim that Al Qaeda and Saddam were connected?We aren't there now thanks to a status of forces agreement negotiated by Bush and kept by BHO
LMC - It is interesting how in your world everything is George Bush's fault. If your toilet backs up and floods your house, it had to be GWB that caused it. I do agree though that GWB got us into this mess based on faulty intel from what I read.
Bush and his team of maniacs thumped their chest at the world and had a policy of bombs before brains. They deserve an enormous amount of blame for our situation. Obama hasn't been impressive, but far better than the disaster of Bush.
Funny Obama is far better than the disaster of Bush in spite of the fact he continued all the Bush policies, but purposely left Iraq a sitting duck for terrorist takeover, is under seige of 6 scandals (we know of) & is proven a liar on everything
And?I knew the media was right wing all along.Obviously.Not 1 "reporter" talks about Romney being sued for racketeering.Can u imagine if it was Obama?And Hello:We are in Iraq because of the Bush adm.The fall-out is theirs.Take some d*m responsibility
Obama has been President for over 5 years unless he is an idiot, Iraq is his.
Unless he put us there, no it isn't. He has to deal with the mess he was left, TAKE RESPONSIBILTY.
It took Bush less than 8 months to plot 9/11. Less then 15 months to plot Afghanistan. Less than 2 years to plot Iraq. Obama has had 5 years. Obviously Bush the devil is more powerful than Obama the IDIOT angel.
Bush didn't plot any of it. He allowed it to happen. It was plotted in 1997. That's why he had to win the presidency by hook or crook. Funny you people always hype up the USmilitary, yet believe it could be gotten the best of by such primitive means.
So tell me then, how does the Bush administration who waged the war in Iraq without regard for the inevitable consequences and the fact that they may not be around to finish it competently not own it? If it wasn'tfor the surge they would have lostit.
The U.S. is NOT the world police! Many of these countries have had issues for 1000s of years! Some folks believe we should put troops everywhere and spend trillions of dollars on (unwinnable civil wars). They don't want democracy and never did!
Excellent answer. And what is it WE want? Hmmm? That is what got us here, and what we need to decide.
I do not want to be world empire. I want to be U S of A.
The Bush Surge? No President is around for more than 8 years. His time was up. Obama was deemed ready by the voters. He has had 5 years to become competent. Iraq became his when he was elected AND when he sent Joey B. out to spike the ball.
Obama was against the "war". How is it his? Obamacare is his. Tax cuts for middle class is his. Iraq war is Bush's. Tell me: Do you call it Obama's medicare part D?
Medicare requires Congressional action. He is commander-in-chief.
And Obama was not the president who invaded Iraq. Nor was it his congress who created AUMF.--when do you take responsibility?
AUMF, you mean the Authorization that had to be voted on twice so Democrats could get on board; the AUMF that Hillary enthusiastically supported; the AUMF that all but one Democrat in the House and EVERY Democrat in the Senate voted for? Whose fault?
Yours. It was a Repub house and Repub senate.They held majority in both. AND had Supreme Court (still do). Why do you insist on making GW Bush's terms Democratic ones? It was all R's for 6 yrs. Wars, Patriot Act, AUMF AbuGharib,U insist dems.Ushamed?
The REALITY, you know that uncomfortable thing you keep running into, is that Democrats supported the AUMF 100% in the Senate. Hillary voted for it, how is her vote a Republican one?
All the dems could have voted AGAINST it, and it still would have passed! R's held majority..R's ruled.Totally, for 6 long awful years.Let me ask: is GW Bush responsible for anything that happened from 2000-2008? Or does it all fall On Obama and D's?
So the Democrats lacked the courage of their convictions. Republicans have opposed many things to which they object despite the certainty of passing. Democrats controlled Congress beginning in January 2007 just in time to wreck the economy.