immigrants, how do you feel about President Obama's desire to "go it alone" without Congressional approval on immigration reform for the millions of undocumented people that came here illegally? As grandchild of legal immigrants - who had to wait their turn and respect U.S. laws before becoming legal citizens- I'm curious if anyone else fears Obama may be setting an unwise precedent if he signs an executive order to get what he wants?
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I would agree with this plan.
I can accept this, too, and I want a president who upholds our laws, not one who thinks he has the authority to make his own.
Thank you for sharing, tsadjatko. I wish people in Congress, the Senate and the WH showed as much common sense!
I completely disagree with this plan. Eliminate the border. Immediate amnesty. Export opportunity. Legalize drugs.
I can't disagree with what you said. Congress needs to grow up and go back to work. We have paid them huge salaries and benefits for years of nothing. It is time we replace all or most of them with some who are willing to do their jobs.
Thanks for sharing, Old Poolman.
I read where "turnarounds" are included in that count of deportations. That is where persons attempting to enter the US were "turned around" and sent back immediately. Prior to Obama "turnarounds" were not counted as deportation.
Either way (liberals and Latinos) are unhappy with the numbers. It's a "damned if you do/damned if you don't" scenario for any president. No matter who is elected president almost 50% of the population which voted against them will be unhappy.
Thank you for sharing, christiankist.
If you mean to buy or rent a house I could go along with what you said. If you mean to just camp out on anyones property I have to disagree with you. I don't really know of any country in the world that allows people to just cross its borders.
That's true, Old Poolman!
lol. no, I dont mean camp out on someone’s property. i mean if they have money to build or rent some place, then why not?
Most all counties have regulations regarding the allowable length of stay for any non-citizens. The countries I am familiar with have a 90 day limit then you have to leave for at least 72 hours. We don't even know how many are here now.
i think thats ridiculous. what difference does it make if they were born over some other imaginary line? in my opinion it makes no difference at all. the majority of laws set by any country are usually to benefit and strengthen the gov's authority
christiananrkist - If a stranger moved his family into your home wouldn't you at least set a limit on how long they could stay? Countries do need to know how many non-citizens are within their borders especially with the terrorism we see today.
your analogy doest work in this case. a person setting up a home on some unused land doesnt affect my life, like moving into my home would. citizens commit horrible evils. its about living peacefully, not the piece of dirt youre born on.
There is no land in this country that is not owned by someone or some government agency. Moving onto "unused land" and building a home is called squatting. So how would you feel if they built a shack in your backyard instead?
still not the same thing. who is it hurting for a "non-citizen" to buy land and pay taxes to the mafia (government) and live peacefully without having to jump through a bunch of arbitrary hoops. what gives them less rights , being born on other soil?
christiananrkist - Actually it has nothing to do with where you were born, it is all about citizenship. Our laws are actually not as strict as you will find in many other countries. We are just too far apart on this to keep this chatter going.
where one is born has everything to do with it. if you are not born here, then you must jump through a bunch of unnecessary hoops to become a citizen. yes, my view on much politics is much different than a lot of people's. no arguments here.
Highdruid, as a matter of fact, my husband is a Native and he says the current immigration problem is just a repeat of what happened to his people, and a repeat that we shouldn't be allowing to happen.
Your husband in right on the money with this one. This is exactly what happened to the real Native Americans and it could happen again. Thanks for sharing this with us. Your husband is a wise man.
Thank you OP. And yes, I think he is, too :)