I recently read an article where the author quoted an Arizona woman whose police officer son was killed by an undocumented Mexican immigrant with a prior criminal history who had never been deported. The woman who was the subject of the article, who herself was Latina, was quoted as stating that "all illegal immigrants should be deported." What are your thoughts?
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Sometimes people do things that would otherwise be deemed a crime but mitigating circumstances make it not so. E.g. factually shooting and killing someone in self-defense isn't murder. The law isn't simple black and white.
That would depend on the crime of course. I am talking about cases like below. I am not interested in deportation for J-walking. http://www.ijreview.com/2014/07/156868-illegal-arr...
Have heard the misdirection that few people call those with traffic violations illegal drivers. Completely misleads on what is at issue. We do call people with traffic violations violators, because they did violate traffic laws.
THANK YOU MN, COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT BETTER MYSELF!
I like the "if they are already good members of American society" attitude. I would like those to get a shot at staying. I would prefer more and easier legal immigration from places distant enough that merely sneaking across the border is impossible.
If someone is a foreign national and have remained in the country after their vise has expired or entered the country illegally, they are already a criminal and should be subject to summary deportation. Additional crimes = jail time.
The focus is obvious why. Though the title states 'undocumented', it is well known this is politically correct terminology for illegal immigrant. Plus, you note a Latina said, as quoted, "all illegal immigrants should be deported."
Polly, these illegals AREN'T the creme de la creme; they are the WORST. They AREN'T going to contribute anything positive to America. However, this administration and those who agree with this "humanitarian" act REFUSE to see the ACTUAL situation!
The actual humanitarianism would be to feed, house and treat their medical needs. Identify the truly young and abandoned - there have been stories of 4 and 5 year olds arriving alone - and work to get them adopted.The rest should get well and get out
Why is it difficult to acknowledge that these illegals AREN'T good for the country? After all, they AREN'T the best.
In this case, the police officer was not a rogue cop. The illegal immigrant at issue was driving while intoxicated and caused the fatal crash that killed the police officer.
Retief2000,thank you, they AREN'T the best & brightest, in fact, they are the diametric opposite of the best & brightest. Totally with your synopsis of the illegal immigrant situation.
Yeah, you gotta be careful, they might try to cannibalize you; but then , according to gmwilliams they're the diametric opposite of a human being , so maybe they'll just eat you instead. If they do, can I have your shadow hat?
Retief, of course these illegals have NO relevant skills & are uneducated. We don't need SUCH in this country, our welfare systems are EXHAUSTED ENOUGH as it without adding to it. SOLUTION: SEND them BACK! WE don't want NOR need them, simple as T
This is only partially true. Immigrants are 40% more likely to start their own biz than natural born citizens. They can be very self sufficient and productive if we could get our politicians to stop addicting them to entitlements for votes.
Yes, immigration has gone awry! The illegal European immigrants that followed Columbus to this continent were also not the best and the brightest. Their crimes against humanity are well documented.
Illegal immigration from Europe. In order to have something be illegal...there would have had to have been established laws on the continent at the time.
LandmarkWealth: It is a common white supremacist fiction that since no "white law" existed on this continent prior to the European Invasion, then of course, there could have been no law at all. I also understand many still believe in the tooth fairy.
Can you please cite the specific immigration laws observed by native Americans that existed prior to European settlers...and exactly which immigration law was violated. Or are you simply making them up ?
In fact, Indian tribes often killed each other to protect lands they claimed fro themselves. The Comanche, Ojibwa, Apache, etc...claimed lands and killed other Indians who intruded. All else is fantasy.
LandmarkWealth : If your goal was to truly understand then you would have already seriously studied Indigenous history, as the.information is freely available to anyone. Consequently, it would be foolish of me to try and teach you.
If your goal was to understand, you'd know that it wasn't "white racist" who were the settlers, but rather the Spanish conquistadors. Native Americans migrated to NA as well when the continents were connected...does that make them illegal ?
LW: You insist that the Indigenous migrated here, as did the Euro. You see no illegality in either movement. Yet you see an illegality today? You suggest that any injustice is acceptable as long as a white man hasn't deemed it illegal. Racism 101.
No what I said was in order for something to be illegal, there must be a clearly defined law to break. No credible source anywhere suggests that Native Americans observed an immigration policy. So you just decided to make one up rather than cite one
The fact that laws were broken is evident in the fact that many nations fought and killed European squatters in response to illegal and immoral European immigration. Otherwise, they would not have fought against them. Read and learn.
So because people were killed is evidence they violated the law ? When do you plan to actually cite a source for these laws. And these Europeans were not white, they were Spaniards. At odd's with your quest to blame the white man for society's ills
LW: You are confusing "Mexican" with "Spaniard" which are not one in the same. Your questions indicate that you are separated from God, have subscribed to revisionist fiction, and that you do not understand universal law.
Your comments demonstrate you're delusional. I hold a masters in history. The first conquests of native American's was by the SPANISH (Spaniard...aka not white) Conquistadors. God has nothing to do with the discussion.
LW: Not surprising you have resorted to semantics and derogatory comments. I understand some bigots don't consider Spaniards and Italians to be "white", but most people do consider them "white", as opposed to African and Indigenous. Read and learn.
I'm Italian, and my wife lived in Spain for 3 years. They do not consider themselves white. Hispanic is defined as people of a country that speak the Spanish Language. Get your facts straight. I believe you started the derogatory "godless" innuendo
LOL! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanic: ... According to census reports, of the above races the largest number of Hispanic or Latinos are of the White race, the second largest number come from the Native American/American Indian race ...
Genius, the ancestry of the people of Spain is a melting pot of Africans, Arabs, etc. DNA research shows they are largely not a white people. Nor were they in 1490. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1034/j.1399-...
Factor in many illegals don't know the policies for immigrating. Laws in their country might make moving to a different country very difficult. It's not like moving state to state, which can also be a hassle, albeit less so.
Now you speak as the friend of businesses in violation of federal law. If there were no jobs for illegals, self deportation would begin. The standard system of immigration is good enough for an Irish PhD, it should be good enough for a Mexican farmer
I guess you missed the part were I said we should fix the system so they are legal. The statement on impact is simply reality.
Illegal adults have displaced teenagers from jobs they used to perform. The often repeated line, "They do jobs Americans won't do" is the most hateful of lies.It is as if Americans were as lazy as their politicians.