I saw a woman on the news today who represents people waiting to become citizens and she said they were so shocked and disappointed to have millions go ahead of them and although many argue we are all immigrants the facts are there is a system that is so unfair to break don't you think? It could be the same number but why cut the line? Some say it is for votes but wouldn't the legals vote for them too? Makes no sense to me. What do you suppose could be the purpose of this?
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Eric there can be no better answer; you have proven it is not prejudice to want to follow the law! I wish if you haven't you would write an article on this and if you have please put a link here since it pertains to this. It is surely not fair.
Thank you very much Jackie, you honor me greatly. I will write such a hub as it is very dear to my heart.
Great Eric! I will be watching for it.
I am a wetback myself .The names are the least of the offenses committed by the xenophobes ,what is really sad is to see and feel the hatred that emanates from their beings and many of them even call themselves Christian.
You see the guy above whose wife did it legally? They plus many of us still go for the legal way and anything else is illegal; sorry. The dictionary you might say; not me.
They moved to another country illegally.In Mexico,this can result in jail time.In some countries,illegal entry can cost more.The free movement of people across national borders is regulated everywhere.In fact,the US has very liberal immigration laws.
All we today can do is be responsible for today...so there can be a tomorrow. Ignorance is not always bliss. We would be fairer to help the native Indians yes! When do they get their turn? Surely first and what about the homeless? Legal citizens!
only difference illegals now come at the bottom of social spectrum not as conquerors.
and if we keep double talk going long enough no one will stop to see what the agenda really is...
When there is opportunity people will seize it. No matter what time period we are talking about. No one is enforcing immigration rules and we do not have a sufficient immigration system to begin with. This goes much deeper the whole system is broken.
I won't deny that but the majority in the voters has spoken yet no one seems to be listening. Remember gov't of and by the people? This is America still.
Right it seems like the interests of the people are taken lightly in America. Remember though, we don't actually live in a democracy we live in democratic republic which means our views don't matter, only the views of the people we elect do.
The buffoonery of their ridiculous outrage is priceless, case in point.
junk can't defend himself or his philosophy so he resorts to namecalling, as usual.
Says the guy who came here for no reason but to attack me. You can't possibly be dumb enough to think that your asinine strawman was worthy of a defense.
best you can do, eh, junk...
Jack also failed to come up with an answer to a recent question of mine. I believe in the Constitution and I would like to see a solution that is compatible. But I guess Jack is a dry well.
any question that robert has asked me has been answered quite well... unless, of course, he asked it 30 seconds before he posted this obvious nonsensical post. You got a question? Ask it.
Don't lie to everyone, Jack. Of all the comments you made in my recent question about atheism, you failed to come up with an argument to discus. I think trolling is more your style.
A person has to be permanent resident for 5 yrs before he can apply for citizenship.that has been so for decades
Interpreting Robert: Trolling = showing Robert's failures in logic, reason, and rationality in such a way that he has no answer to the post.
Jack, you're quite funny...yet sad. I've answered each of your ridiculous claims. Your refusal to acknowledge that makes no difference to me. I can see that I'm irritating you, and that's quite alright with me.
how odd... robert is the one who has been whining about trolls for the past few days over several hubs and yet he thinks other people are getting "irritated" :-)
The fact that you keep visiting my recent question with your written excrement proves my claim. :)
there ya go, Dear Readers... from his own fingers Robert shows why he simply cannot deal with counter factual arguments... no wonder he wants to suppress Christians from being active in government when he considers their concepts as "excrement."
You're quite good at lying and word manipulation, Jack. Not the first Christian I've encountered here with those same skills. Those who come to my question and have at least some comprehension abilities will discover your game.
No lying and manipulation. I merely have to quote YOUR own posts such as "Atheists want religion to be a private matter rather than a political force." to allow people to become quite understanding of just where you are coming from.
Robert is not the first atheist I've encountered here who tries to backtrack once his true thoughts come out and pretends he didn't post what he really posted when everyone can read it for themselves. That's why I can quote him and he can't me..
NO ILLEGAL CAN BECOME A CITIZEN BEFORE THOSE WAITING IN LINE.CAN NOT HAPPEN.
Sure you can quote me, Jack, but you're taking it out of context and ignoring my explanation to it...in other words, lying. Does your god say it's ok to lie if you're lying about an atheist?
I am content to let the Dear Readers decide if I took it out of context or if your "explanation" holds water. But they are YOUR words from YOUR post.
I believe I am more qualified to explain what I mean about something than you are. And yes, the dear readers can choose, but I think you'll find that your unreasonable kind are decreasing every passing year. Get used to it.
Americans have said what they prefer and Obama knows it so he is defying America. He also stated they don't have to be Latinos so wonder what he has in mind there?
No as said I saw a women who helps pp; become citizens and she did not think it was right and I do agree with her. These people have followed the law and they should be the ones rewarded.
Jackie, you can tell this woman she needs not worry about the people that are waiting to become citizens. The people who benefit from the president's executive order or memo won't be jumping in front of them .
They have already jumped in front of them. They are here and now they are here legally while thousands in places that are not Latin America continue to wait.
I don't see them out in line getting driver's licenses as the illegals are doing. so that is answer enough. No use anyone being blind or crooks to make democrats rule forevermore which is what is behind all this. That is why ones doing legal in line
The strangest thing is we let 36,000 hardened criminals out of prison. Are they going to be among these 5/6 million? We do not punish these Mexican criminal & let them walk free...what is the reason for that? Is that we are filling our country wi
Anybody with criminal background does not benefit
How can that be promised? The thousands released from prison were said not to be dangerous and that was a bare face lie! I am tired of lies I can tell you. Why would I believe anything else?
If someone entered the country illegally,falsified identity documents,secured work,a drivers license,voter registration, mortgage, etc...by use of those documents,then he has committed fraud.Last time I checked that was a crime.
Everything we are told is a lie so why would anyone believe them; something is up besides helping someone out or they would help our millions of homeless citizens; how about that? They really could contribute and it is the right thing to do!
I really don't think it's a race issue . It doesn't have anything to do with the color of their skin or their culture. The system is just prejudice. I believe the only reason they let them stay is because 1. They can't control it & 2. It's a litt
It is illegal; no matter what anyone want to call it. It is breaking our laws and we hand then benefits for doing it. Our twisted gov't has a game going and shame idiots into taking their side!
I just question why he wouldn't choose next in line and I disagree this is how we all became citizens. It is not how my ancestors got in.
It may not be the right way to become a citizen (not that they are), but it is at least an attempt to solve an existing problem and I agree with his challenge: don't like it, then pass a bill.
But he kept saying it wasn't legal and then he did it? My point is though whoever did this should have made the next 6 million in line citizens (although I do think we will see bad repercussions from that many at once) it should have been the next.
So Yes, those who are here illegally should receive greater consideration than those who have obeyed all the rules and refused to sneak across the border. If anything we should exchange one family of those who came illegally for one who is waiting.
People are upset because of the order things were done here. If the next 6 million in line were to become legal, we would have 11 million immigrants. The 5 million that are gaining amnesty have already been here. What are we to do deport 5 mil people
What do we do; deport 20 or 40 or 60 million? Where does it end? Is there no common sense and how about asking someone in line what we should do?
I'm pretty sure 5 million people didn't just show up, it took years for that number to reach its height. Don't you think it would take decades for 20-60 million. We should be flattered people are interested in our country. Innovation is the key here.
Truthfully; I think we have close to 20 million now and what would slow them down if they know they won't be punished for breaking our laws or sent home? 45% of people on welfare are illegals. It has to crash somewhere if a stop isn't put in place.
I agree you bring up a good point. We all know there is going to be no punishment levied. In an ideal scenario a bill would be proposed that would require illegals to serve time in our military to become legal similar to Estonia.
Ideally; only Americans have American military's back. We aren't blind to what is happening. Or stupid.
Well they would be Americans in that case. I think your focusing on the negatives. This can bring ppl out of the shadows and force us to innovate to create new jobs. Just like how when Britian freed slaves the British industrial revolution was born.
We don't have enough jobs for our own citizens...again, common sense tells us what is good or bad for us. Besides the ones waiting being cheated. That is so un-American. No taxes from them and they take more out of our SS which already is in danger.
And would your common sense also tell you that Bush already made a similar move years ago by giving amnesty to couple million immigrants? There are millions of Americans who already contribute nothing and get tax credits. Should we deport them also?
You tell me; do two wrongs make a right? I was not a Bush supporter and never voted for him. I did vote for Obama once. Glad I didn't make two wrongs there. I don't blind myself because of a party and I am very shamed by the one I use to support.
It doesn't matter who you voted for because politics isn't about ideas it's about money. Your choice Obama or Romney, we would still be in the same position. The real issue at hand is companies can now hire these "legals" without paying health ins.
The people have spoken but he just ignored us and I think it won't be quite as easy as he thought. We are not the senate or congress but the ones tired of these charades and already 70% more debt under his watch has not gone unnoticed.
I agree people are upset about it so was I but it's going to happen. Maybe some real people will actually get the courage now to run for positions of power so that a real change can sweep this country.
I hope so; a change for the better. We have certainly had change and America is finally seeing she better get on her feet and do something about it since there seems to be no one looking out for our best interest.
Ya I agree. Big money is controlling everything, these politicians want to get re-elected and they need the big campaign contributions so they do things in the best interest of their campaign contributors and not the people. Time for a change!
Yeah; sure hope things hold together til we can get there.
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