If a fry cook at McDonalds decides to be a vegetarian and therefore decides that no one coming to that McDonalds can have a Big Mac. Would they be fired?
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And Josh how can you judge from imperfections as, a human , what is barbaric , he is perfect on all his activities
and keeps living , when our life span is short.that means he know way more then we will ever know.
So you follow all the laws of Leviticus?
Josh did you sign an agreement as an Israelite to go into the promise land and did you say you would keep all these commandments with a priest to represent you in gift sacrefice ?
The old testement was a contract between God and Isreal ,not us today
That is my argument, why do we pick and choose which laws of Leviticus we follow?
There is no law saying a gay couple cannot get married... There was a clarification of a law that says all people can get married, which is their job.
There would be less of an issue if anyone else at the office was able to provide marriage license to gay couples, but she is preventing that too. Which is preventing other people who are probably ok with it to not be able to do their job either.
Yes, what she is doing is insubordination and creating a toxic work environment. However, there are those proponents who view her actions as right, even just because of religion, civil rights, or defying the government.
Also peeples what you call old is not old
The bibles clearly gives laws as well about safety and health, mental values that really work, we benifit when people practice these. Not killing, not stealling, not to hate,
That will never be old.
How do you benefit from someone elses marriage not being allowed?
Also peeples this is truth
Ro 1:27 likewise also the males left the natural use of the female and became violently inflamed in their lust toward one another, males with males, working what is obscene and receiving in themselves the full penalty,
Ro 13 All of you must obey the government rulers. Everyone who rules was given the power to rule by God. And all those who rule now were given that power by God. So anyone who is against the government is really against something God has commanded
You failed to answer the question. Those are YOUR beliefs and you are entitled to them, but how does anyone being denied a right to marry benefit anyone?
These relationships hurt themselfs, because they are not natural as created for.
The percent of Angelic creations did the same thing but was a great reason the earth was cleaned off by flood waters.
Again we are repeating history in moral values.
Ok this is becoming delusional. I will walk away. Good luck Josh, but there comes a time in a conversation where you realize there is no point. Have a good rest of day y'all.
True they are violently inflamed before marriage, the point is God is against it
And it hurts the people in it.
I think we are confusing religious freedom with religious bullying. She has a requirement to uphold the law by the job she was sworn into. It wouldn't be AS big of a deal if she would allow her other clerks to provide licenses, but she wasn't.
Josh I believe in every part of the bible, maybe in your opinion you see that some one is picking , how so , because the same thought is in the New Testament as well, as posted scriptures, earlier in 1 Corinthians
Also look at Jude 7 , very clear.
No one is being physically harmed. Sure if the government said, "you must poison anyone who walks through those doors," there would be an issue, but that's not the case. She is just required to FOLLOW the LAW. A law that doesn't hurt anyone.#LoveWins
Exactly, Josh, what Ms. Davis is required to do ISN'T harming anyone in the least. The Supreme Court decision is positive. It was not a hurtful law like the laws instituted in Nazi Germany or other anti-humanistic regimes.The law was a humane one
That isn't the same. What is with everyone and not wanting people to be happy? How in anyway does a gay couple impact your life, other than you having to hear it on TV?
I'd quit THEN I would boycott. I sure wouldn't try to stand at the counter telling people not to buy, and expect for McDonalds to keep giving me a paycheck. Simple, don't like what a company is asking you to do, quit. Then you're free to make a stand
Why then is this law just now being approved from generations of being wrong,
There is a principle involved, God's or man's
law, so God's feelings does not matter is very callous unloving, he grants life to each of us, Now the world says so what ?
Maybe the law is just being passed because it took this long for Prejudice old school mentality to be over ridden. It doesn't matter though, laws are laws, follow them or go to jail. If a job goes against your PERSONALbeliefs why stay? Why not quit?
How long did it take for black people to be free? Or after they were free, how long did it take for them to count as a whole human being? The world evolves things change, read through Leviticus and tell me you follow all those laws.
I agree peeples why stay on a Job you know somewhere may violate your conscious or relationship with your creator or Father, but I do not agree with the fact that throwing some one in jail over a document. Keeping them from family, and isolating.
"Contempt of court, often referred to simply as "contempt", is the offense of being disobedient to or disrespectful towards a court of law and its officers in the form of behavior that opposes or defies authority, justice, and dignity of the court."
She was given the option to resign. That would have kept her out of jail because it would have stopped her from breaking the law. People go to jail for a plant. That piece of paper is a right, she could simply resign and be out of jail.
So Peeples as an example if the law says it is lawful to break in your neighbor house for food would that be right in your mind , because you are hungry.
So because you will not break in now you will be put in jail because you refuse to do so.
Comparing apples and oranges. Stealing hurts someone. Marriage between 2 consenting adults hurts no one. Please provide proof how this hurts you or anyone else, then I may reconsider my view.
Peeples if this hurts no one then it should not hurt the person that disagrees,
The person's who disagrees is attacked and isolated,
The bible being the word of God strictly says it is wrong, it also says why.
One reason not Adam and Adam married
Read Leviticus, we would all be put to death ... Leviticus 19: 19 Keep my decrees.
“‘Do not mate different kinds of animals.
“‘Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed.
“‘Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.
The only ones attacked for their beliefs are the ones FORCING their belief on others. This is not persecution, this is following law. The one attempting to FORCE her beliefs on others is violating the LAW, which is why she is being attacked.
Ro 1:27likewise also the males left the natural use of the female and became violently inflamed ,
The point is there is violence involved in these relationships, I know of three , and one case where the other stab the other in the back as a lover
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What? I'm completely confused by your last comment.
Josh what the scriptures bring out that these relationships have violent flames of passion, any violence could not be a good thing, violence is a crime in society, I have known this scripture to be true stories told
By many and their experience
Violence is your excuse? You realize how much abuse has been in heterosexual couples for eternity right? Their marrying has nothing to do with it.
The relationship will yield penalty as written
Yeah, hasn't there been this huge "End Domestic Violence" movement over the last year?
True Josh , they do not admit this is a issue
But the bible does not lie, as it says violent passion, I seen and heard of this violence and it is very common in their relationships.
Sodom and Gomorrah is really a history and end results. Gone
Statistics prove that Domestic violence % is the same in LGBT relationships as homosexual relationships. Gosh I need to learn to walk away, but people being selectively ignorant to the facts drives me crazy!
The Bible also has some pretty barbaric laws that we don't follow today. Why do we get to pick and choose what we want from the bible?
First peeples the statistics I just read say their domestic violence is higher, and because the factor that they are a minority
And Josh true people cherry pick, to have good relationship with your creator that would not be possible,
Then you read wrong, NON BIAS studies done time and time again show 20-30%. Which is the same as straight. Get past the first 3 pages of google and read something that wasn't a study done by people that think like you.
First peeples you do not know where I read the statistics from , yet you tell me to get past the people who think like me, maybe you can use your own advice. But violence is still an issue and it does hurt those on these relationships. The point.
Do you not know what non bias means, it means they fit NO ONE'S agenda. So I'm not reading liberal studies. Violence is an issue, but stop blaming gay people for that when it was done LONG before being gay was common.
Regardless, let's say you're right about the violence. That won't change whether or not they are married... it is a moot point.
Then why is it a study of statics done if there was no concern.
It is as the bible says violence of passion, because it is un natural of same sex relations.
No matter what a person says or show , people have made their minds up .
What they want.
Again, whether or not a couple is married will not change the rate in which abuse happens. It is a moot point.