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Guns aside, what do you think contributes to our seeming epidemic of mass shootings in the US?


BESIDES the easy access to guns, what else do you think contributes to the high rate of violence and all the mass shootings in our country? Is it feelings of hopelessness? Untreated and mismanaged mental illnesses? An overly paranoid society? What is at play behind these incidents? Are you even surprised anymore when you hear of yet another mass shooting? Obviously we have a problem that is systemic - so how do we work to resolve it? Again, not arguments on guns - been there done that. What else do we need to address as a society?

 
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    Tim Mitchell (tsmog) 19 months ago

    I have a strong lean along with you, I believe, being social structure as a greater root cause exasperating or causing a psychological change. I also think there are influences desensitizing the morality of violence - Media & Gaming for instance.


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    Lovesamrat 18 months ago

    You are absolutely right i think so.


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18 months ago
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    Christin Sander (ChristinS) 18 months ago

    Sadly we have a govt. that doesn't serve its constituents but special interests and the NRA is a huge lobby for no change. It doesn't matter what the majority of people want when there is money and corruption.


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19 months ago
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    Yoleen Lucas (Say Yes To Life) 19 months ago

    You have a point there. This sounds like the Virginia Tech shooter.


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19 months ago
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    Christin Sander (ChristinS) 19 months ago

    I agree with all your points for sure. Not avoiding the gun discussion, just didn't want to get "stuck" there as these debates often do. More I wanted to touch on these deeper issues.


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19 months ago
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    Christin Sander (ChristinS) 19 months ago

    I think your assessment is right on. I too believe guns are a problem, but I think we tend to get hung up on that debate without looking at the underlying issues that also need to be addressed.

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18 months ago
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    Kylyssa Shay (Kylyssa) 18 months ago

    Also, people in European countries have mental illnesses (just like human beings everywhere) but much lower rates of gun violence. If it were the mental illnesses and not the guns, they'd all have just as much gun violence as the US.


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18 months ago
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    Christin Sander (ChristinS) 18 months ago

    news cycles do indeed make it appear more prevalent I agree with that. As for teaching values in school, our schools do it through secular programs and it is inclusive of everyone and it helps establish a sense of community.


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19 months ago
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    Christin Sander (ChristinS) 19 months ago

    So many excellent observations and you are right. We are conditioned here to celebrate violence and always fear. I think it makes it easier for the govt. to keep us in perpetual war to normalize violence and keep people afraid.


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18 months ago
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    Christin Sander (ChristinS) 18 months ago

    right I agree, the reason I phrased the question that way was to not get the topic stuck on guns themselves, but to get to deeper root causes.

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19 months ago
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    Christin Sander (ChristinS) 19 months ago

    Hormones are a contributing factor for sure, but as for politeness, that isn't the same thing as genuine social skills. Anyone can be taught basic manners. This fellow was seen as "polite" by many. I agree with you on healthcare.


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    Christin Sander (ChristinS) 19 months ago

    I've been curious about this link as well!

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    Christin Sander (ChristinS) 19 months ago

    Yeah great solution then we can all cower in fear wondering what wannabe hero might hurt themselves and others because proper training is not a requirement to buy/own a gun. Instead of one potential shooter, lets make sure there are many.


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18 months ago
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    Christin Sander (ChristinS) 18 months ago

    it's rare that a "good guy with a gun" saves the day, since your average joes aren't trained to respond to such situations. I'd be interested to know how many of these alleged hero's had military and or police training. The answer isn't more guns.


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19 months ago
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    Christin Sander (ChristinS) 19 months ago

    I agree that mental health issues are a large contributor in many cases and that we should be doing a better job of funding and destigmatizing these issues so more could be helped.


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19 months ago
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    Christin Sander (ChristinS) 19 months ago

    I think it's definitely one huge piece of the puzzle for sure.


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    Christin Sander (ChristinS) 19 months ago

    I agree, in fact this guy talked about gaining notoriety online before the act and others were egging him on. Media will never cooperate though as they like the ratings giving shooters attention brings.


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19 months ago
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    Christin Sander (ChristinS) 19 months ago

    Interesting to hear other perspectives. I honestly feel the same way you do and guns are not "normal" for a great deal of our society honestly. I grew up in a house full (dad hunts), but never touched one and never had the desire to.


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18 months ago
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    Kylyssa Shay (Kylyssa) 18 months ago

    It isn't extreme. No other country has this problem to this extent and gun laws are what those countries have in common.


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    Christin Sander (ChristinS) 19 months ago

    I can definitely see how that could be a contributing factor to someone who "snaps". I wonder how we go about figuring out who is about to reach the breaking point. Very sad.


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19 months ago
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    Christin Sander (ChristinS) 19 months ago

    I agree particularly with learning to end bullying, but also with teaching kids how to manage bullies and not let it destroy their own self-esteem. Mental health in this country has been progressively worse since being largely defunded in the 1980s


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18 months ago
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    Christin Sander (ChristinS) 18 months ago

    I don't believe all the shooters were having this problem - but it is a common denominator with several. Ease of access to guns is problematic for sure.

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    PeterStip 18 months ago

    If you catch a thief in your house, are you able to shoot him ? And kill him. Do you think killing someone for stealing a TV is justice. What you propose is civil war. You can not train citizens to behave nicely. It's better to have no guns at all.


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    Christin Sander (ChristinS) 18 months ago

    do you have sources for this? I know that some have - but I have not seen anything that says all of them were. I know those drugs are bad news though for many people.


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    Christin Sander (ChristinS) 18 months ago

    Yes, the media does like to perpetuate sensationalism and fear - I agree. If the media did their actual job when it came to news, we'd have citizens who were by far more informed and less afraid of everything under the sun.


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    Christin Sander (ChristinS) 19 months ago

    I love Halloween and I'm not a violent person. Many other cultures watch violent movies and don't do such things, so I can see a bit of the point in desensitization - but I don't think it's a cause.

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    Christin Sander (ChristinS) 19 months ago

    Indeed. I saw it on HuffPo earlier and the people egging him on - wow, unbelievable.

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    Christin Sander (ChristinS) 19 months ago

    so many interesting things to delve into here and I too fear the stigmatization of people with mental illnesses and blaming that instead of addressing the many other underlying issues.


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    Oscar Jones (Oscarlites) 19 months ago

    Amen kryssy!


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    Christin Sander (ChristinS) 18 months ago

    Yes, we have an overall massive violence problem in the US. Ironically our violent crime rate overall i s down, but when violence erupts now it seems to be on grander scales more often than in the past.

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    Christin Sander (ChristinS) 19 months ago

    There are definitely absentee parents, but also a lot who don't have a choice. Some families both parents work excessive hours just to keep a roof. Sad for sure and a peer problem indeed in most cases.


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    Christin Sander (ChristinS) 18 months ago

    This is all very true of course and something we need to make sure isn't erased through revisionist history. I have no doubt our very history may play a role.


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    Christin Sander (ChristinS) 18 months ago

    Yes, we have so many guns and such a fear mired society that glorifies violence - it's a perfect storm for these problems we see.

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    Christin Sander (ChristinS) 19 months ago

    don't apologize - these are the exact kinds of things we all need to be discussing. I agree a lot with establishing boundaries and allowing kids to be able to face disappointment and grow from it, definitely constant negativity has to play a role.

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    Christin Sander (ChristinS) 18 months ago

    Absentee parents and/or parents who give their kids anything they want are good points. two of these shooters had moms who gave them guns despite knowing they were mentally disturbed - boggles my mind!


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    Christin Sander (ChristinS) 19 months ago

    Absolutely and that's sad. This latest shooter planned and bragged on social media and people were encouraging him to do it. He was angry at the world and felt harming strangers was somehow the answer to make him not feel invisible.


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    Christin Sander (ChristinS) 18 months ago

    It seems that way at times, but I still see great good in others. unfortunately with so much media negativity we are conditioned to believe there is a bogeyman around every corner and trust no one which fuels it further.

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    Christin Sander (ChristinS) 18 months ago

    2 of these kids were smothered by their mothers - who, knowing they had mental issues, gave them guns. I don't think all of society is cold, I think when we disconnect and go out in the world we see most are good people doing the best they can.

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    Christin Sander (ChristinS) 19 months ago

    History has been much more violent and it has nothing to do with evolutionary theory which is not "satanic" this sounds more like it belongs on a religious debate board.


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    Christin Sander (ChristinS) 19 months ago

    As humans, we can have an answer to this. There are plenty of other nations that don't have this problem. We need to look at what they are doing right.


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    Christin Sander (ChristinS) 19 months ago

    I said that because I want to get to the deeper issues because everyone gets defensive on their gun positions and rarely delve deeper. There is a lot to say - hence my asking "besides guns"..


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    Christin Sander (ChristinS) 19 months ago

    Thanks, although I am looking more beyond guns - the underlying issues that cause these young men (mostly) to do such heinous things as though it were a sport. Sad.

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    Christin Sander (ChristinS) 19 months ago

    I do agree with teaching nonviolence and peace - but I don't believe that children grow up not doing things their parents forbid. Often just the opposite - they rebel.


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    Christin Sander (ChristinS) 19 months ago

    Yes this is true, but the point of the question was to look at the deeper reasons why people snap or turn to violence - beyond the guns themselves (I agree easy access makes it easier to snap)


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    Christin Sander (ChristinS) 18 months ago

    Yes, too bad empathy is not a subject that can be taught really, but things that lead to empathy could - non-revisionist history books might be a good start. In my boys school they have a citizenship series they do all year it's a nice program.

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