Their explanations for allowing some questions to stand and banning others are beyond lame. Then there is that "thing" of banning decent people without explanation and choosing not to respond to reports on Hate speech, unless the reporter is highly liberal. There is no balance here. Maybe this site should be called BiasedPages. Seriously, this high school nonsense is ridiculous. Well, if I suddenly disappear from BiasedPages without a trace, my friends will know why.
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Amen, Paul. You couldn't have said it any better. Our world has become less safe as a result of biased editing. A liberal professor did a study on the media, believing it was fair. He was shocked to discover a 95% leaning to the far left.
I used to do the hop hubpages thing until I discovered a new hubpage where almost every other sentence contained severe profanity aimed at Christianity.How does that get past moderation when pages with truthful links about Islam are removed?
Interesting TSAD, I also remember recently as of last year a person coming on directly threatning.believers , his words we are going to gather them and get rid of them , he was on awhile, no moderation ,here a threat, but I have seen less of grammar
Based on what I've seen the moderators do (and not do) I sincerely doubt there is even one Christian involved in management of this company, if there is shame on them for turning a blind eye to some of what goes on in the ranks.
tsad...things "get past moderation" because the hubs you read in the Hoppers have not gone through moderation yet.....OR have failed. That's How.
Paula,What do you mean have failed?My hubpages are moderated before they get to any"hopper"And remember I asked u about logging in, when I log in it still goes to hubs instead of feed like it used to no matter how many times I've changed it.
Best of luck this time around, David. I've met some good people here. The others I avoid unless I choose to defend someone who is being kicked around.
Wow I have never heard that said before. Very interesting and honest
Eric, the term progressive has been around for some time. They are the group of people who believe we needn't stick with the Constitution as our founding fathers saw it. The name is less palatable for those familiar with the history.
'Progressive' means anything but pro-Constitution now.
True. And that is a problem.
David Lawrence, likewise. Except I left for about 2 or 3 years and only came back as a result of Squidoo. I just avoid all conversations that aren't to do with technical stuff.
Wow I have never heard that said before. Very interesting and honest
I am very new to, writing is not one of my best attributes, I do like telling true stories, about life as I see it. As to the trash talk on here or any other site, it is common, most people thing they know better
Kylyssa, I do not delete comments unless they are particularly vile and demeaning. Yours isn't. I believe you are right in saying that Hubpages does not care about Hate speech. As for hateful conservatives, I have taken them on too. Believe me.
The way you framed the question implied you see it as a liberal agenda being pushed on HubPages rather than just that staff members don't seem to read the discussions they moderate.
Kylyssa, I would say that your statement is accurate. This issue is complex, and there is much more to the story...
I hope to effect change in which moderators are free to do their jobs.
Personally I don't think any of it should be deleted no matter what people say. It should be backed up. If one runs for soil and water of Dead Horse, AK in twenty years their own hateful stupidity should be hanging around to bite them.
Why do you still believe it's a Liberal conspiracy now that you know liberals experience the same phenomenon? Are you stating you believe my answer was a lie? Please clarify.
Kylyssa, Are you asking me the "liberal conspiracy" question, or someone else? Are you stating that is has been determined that HP moderators do not lean to the left?
I still believe censorship is important , but kind that keeps everyone at peace, the kind that you can say it but with good taste, trash talking belongs in the garbage, bullying people does too, we do not want done to our kids nore us as Adults.
@SD It's been shown that liberal posts and posters also get heavily moderated and banned as if the moderator had not read the discussions or the flagged items.
If true Kyyssa it's probably because liberals are more prone to profanity, personal attacks and plain old lies, as opposed to others who get moderated solely because their views differ with liberal moderators.
Wow! I have been running a Google Plus stream for nearly 4 or 5 years now (since day 1). I cater to atheists, progressives, and agnostics. The people who attack, etc. are Conservatives. I delete and block. Only option.
WOWEE WOW WOW, and the liberals in movements like BLM and Occupy Wall Street, militant atheists are little angels too.You ever read comments atheist make about Christianity on any mumber of atheist websites? They can't speak without profanity
@Tsad, the only comments I have to reject for profanity or threats on my homelessness and atheism articles online come from Conservatives. Note that I say Conservatives, not Christians; most Christians leave polite and open-minded comments.
I've had questions banned, Jodah, but mostly I am turned off by the poor, if non-existent management of moderators. I've seen a sweet Christian girl get banned for no other reason than that she defended herself. That was really low..
Yes I know the incident Savvy. It made me cringe. I have had many run ins with these people over the years...with their money is the soul purpose of writing for Hub Pages attitudes, but have never been banned.
yves..I am not familiar w/ the incident you mention.U can tell me about it in a private email if U like. I have numerous incidents of mistreatment of many hubbers that U would simply not believe! Admin is not interested in truth. Just power & $$
Thank you, Jodah. That particular incident should never have happened. The banned girl did nothing wrong. You at least, remain the face of reason and compassion, always keeping a cool head, yet making your point. I celebrate that.
"Liberal".. I think this word means different things to different people, depending where you are from. In my country it is just one side of politics...nothing to do with or against religion/Christianity.
We had Blue Dog Democrats in this country. They were conservative as opposed to progressive. However, they seem to have died a painful death. Now we have "progressives" who are"liberal" in all matters. They basically created "political correctness."
Conservatism is linked to young earth creationist evangelical Christian beliefs in the US. While most US liberals and moderates are Christians (Catholics, Methodists, Lutherans, etc.), they are often not recognized as Christians by the right.
Kylyssa, tHst is a narrow viewpoint and not particularly accurate. However, it is the "perception" of progressives.
Did the media or the Democratic party coin the phrase progressive to make liberals appear more palatable? Easy here I am just asking the question.
These latter day Democrats are beyond Liberal, they are left-wing. I classify myself as a Liberal but these Democrats are FAR TO THE LEFT. Savvy, your questions shouldn't be deleted. I LOVE your questions.
@SD When conservatives call my Christian friends atheists, I perceive it and we think it is weird. I also perceive it when they call my Catholic best friend a Pagan. Yes, they are inaccurate.
Thank you, Grace.
Again we can set the standards of how we want to be treated ,by our own actions, I have enjoyed sharing bible truth as anyone who would enjoy telling how to prepare a meal, do a wedding, crafts, poems, but it is out of place being attacked for conte
Well said, Dean. Free speech does take a "major hit", because these people are just instigating vulgarity for their own entertainment. All I know is that the moderators keep banning the wrong people, hubs, and comments, over and over.
Thanks Steven. Your comment has been most helpful! So....if I get complaints from those who hate my questions, HP has a reason to delete them. Lol. Still, I wish my objections to their hate speech got half as much attention. ;) Thanks again.
I do agree. There is a certain 'group' of people that seem to gather at this site and just spew nasty rhetoric and hatred. It's disgusting.
Steve's right, and I have flagged many questions based on the rules he cited but they ignore the rule, it seems except for mine or unless it serves a moderator's agenda then they allow stupid questions that are simply yes or no answers?
It is disgusting,mattforte. Sometimes I feel compelled to "speak up," particularly when I know the "information" being spewed is blatantly false or distorted. Many readers believe the distortions and I find that highly unfortunate, at best.
I'm not saying they never get it right, but I can only assume, like Paula said, that moderators don't read through the material enough to make a good judgment....or worse... They are playing favorites.
Definitely, Ilona. I've never posted a question on a forum. I've had comments deleted, like when I asked "How people feel about the Iran deal?" The question was unpublished. Huh? Another case of biased editing. So wrong.
I spent a short stint trying to be part of the forums. It didn't last long. No conversation or debate going on there, just cat fights for no reason other than the glee of scratching at someone. I avoid all forums except to report technical issues.
I hear you. My hubs have not been deleted, but my score has gone down by up to 13 points after I've complained about Hate speech. Oh well. I'll likely keep writing anyway, no matter what the moderators do. Thanks for the advice, Portamenteff.
Yes, Paula. It is like the Orwell phrase, "All pigs are equal, but some are more equal than others. So, as long as nice little conservatives keep their mouths shut, they may stay. Ha! Hell will freeze over before you and I play that game, girlfriend.
Have never felt a need nor desire to be SILENT & bashed around, since the day I was born and entitled to my Constitutional rights. You're right! Hell will have to freeze over! I bow to no one.
Ha! You're a pistol alright. Loved your entire answer, by the way. I'll try to ignore the high school girls, but sometimes their Satanist routine gets old. Just glad I'm not alone in recognizing this disgusting practice of banning good people.
We are by no means ALONE. Some of the nicest hubbers & best writers have had their turn at being banned. It's like being in a Club Of Honorees, w/ pride for not allowing others to kick us around! W/O people of courage, we'd all be robots!
There seems to be a couple of new "self-appointed moderators" amongst them (ex squids) who are the worst.
I know instigators in the forums. It is called stalking. They stalk continuously, always interjecting & looking for a fight. Sadly, they are NEVER banned but the one who defends him/herself IS.......
My comment was on TSAD's answer, not on yours. You probably couldn't see the way the way the comments are threaded. I won't apologize for pointing out that both TSAD and SD have called it liberal bias because they have.
Once again. I always have & always will speak only 4 MYSELF. I say what I mean & mean what I say. Did I suggest U apologize to anyone but me? No, I didn't. I'm adverse to false accusations & WILL defend myself. I see U made an honest m
Which certain race and religion do you mean? I have observed that God is made fun of quite frequently, but I'm not sure if you are referring to something else.
It's not just forums, it has to do with the entire culture. If we speak out enough, maybe one day moderators who are fair will be able to do their jobs. Thanks for commenting, Diana.
Sadly, the policy is BAN first without reason nor logic. We need moderators who are adults, professionals & treat hubbers as such. Unfortunately, we have moderators who view hubbers as kindergarteners & treat them as such.
"If you are active and remain of the forums you are either mealy mouthed or connected."
Can confirm. Used to post heavily on the forums, am now perma-banned. Someone apparently didn't like my use of logic and reason and biting satire.
Zelkiiro: I think I know who you are talking about (or possibly one of two people). Don't worry the person is a bit unhinged.
Dean what do you mean?
There's a person who is so set in the thought that if you try to correct her in a reasonable, non-threatening way, she goes off in these incomprehensible and ideological rants. She call you un-American, liar, terrorist supporter,etc.
Eric, you have listed some of the positives of HP. I appreciate those things as well. However, I do believe HP moderators are not well managed.
Good point you've brought up. The banning & the unfeatured process. Regarding the second: if the hubs stay featured long enough, they will receive traffic again. Regarding the bans, another story ENTIRELY......
I had not heard of that one, Lisa!
Perhaps the moderators like your comments well enough. Thanks for "chiming" in.
Love you, TSAD. Thank you for the links. Yep. Some of the moderators here remind me of high school mean girls. I guess they love being prom queens for the day. Sad. But as one commenter said, all publications are biased. Here, it's almost a game.
Savvydating! shhhhhhhhhhh, don't ever say you loveTsad! You just made enemies of every uninformed flaming liberal&atheist hubber(&there ain't no shortage of them here)who reads your comment not to mention that you'll make my female fans jealo
Tsad & Paula are correct in their premise. There are hub trolls who consistently bully those they disagree with yet THEY AREN'T BANNED AT ALL; however, those who DEFEND themselves, ARE. We need MATURE moderators.....
@GMW - I wouldn't be so quick to agree, they are stating it's a liberal bias thing, not a lousy attention to moderation thing.
KLyLyssa....CAREFUL, pls....how you throw the word "THEY" around. I stand for what I say....not 4 what I do NOT say. U will not find a single time EVER I used the term "liberal bias." Not here, not anywhere. (I accept UR apology!)
"They" means the people in this particular ANSWER and its comments that GWM is agreeing with. I don't see your earlier comment on this answer so I don't know why you are saying I should apologize to you. Both TS & SD refer to it as liberal bias.
DIRECTLY above UR comment, Grace mentioned me by NAME, ("Paula")....you then replied with "THEY." Clear as can be. U can't miss my comment. It's long as usual.
Kylyssa, when did i say the moderator's had a liberal bias? I said one, maybe some moderate according to their beliefs or agendas (read my answer to the Q&A) YOU put words in my mouth, and btw Paula's too..
I know myself and my own figures of speech. NEVER have I nor would I use the term "Liberal Bias" because I detest ALL Politicians equally! When I vote, I can only choose the LESS crooked, deceitful & evil. We don't get much of a choice, do we?
Just to clarify, Kylyssa, I do not think HP has a "conspiracy" as you suggested I said. I never said that. Rather, HP has some biased moderators.
Yes, I do leave. My issue is primarily with good, innocent people being banned.
Savvydating. We should question the reasons why innocent people are banned. Also why some questions are disallowed. I don't join a lot of forums and to date haven't experienced it. The main purpose of any question is clear thought and discussion.
Yes, I agree John. That is what I am trying to do here. I encourage writers to speak up and to contact upper management. Hopefully, HP will know enough to discern who is honest and who is self-promotional.
Very true, Wesman. Forums should be avoided like the plague (in most cases) Nevertheless. I've made a few appearances.... But I've not asked a question in a forum.
HP forums are troll city. It's like facebook with someone else's mother running the show. I think I'll stick to facebook for arguing, nobody there can shut me up :)
Google can afford to be biased, because their primary customers are consumers of information.
HubPages can not afford this same ideology, because their primary customers are creators of content (us). No authors = HubPages Content Graveyard.
Wesman...C'mon honey....you're talkin to Effer now, buddy. NOBODY can shut you up anywhere...and who would want to? I LOVE it when you talk nasty!! ROFLMAO! I'm huggin you real big!!
Sharing information about MS is a good thing. It is important not to be promotional though. I can't say I've ever experienced that issue. Best of luck to you.
Well just what you'd expect from San Francisco, the Sanctuary city, where criminal illegal aliens are safe from innocent American citizens' right to security provided by their government.
If they are an oligarchy, they will ultimately defeat themselves. Also, this is why I do not post questions on Forums. Some, if not most, of the New Atheists on the forums are base-minded, to say the least.
Abuse is unacceptable.
Thank you for commenting, mintu.
I've given them chances....even written to the general manager. I don't think he even read the letter. Well, life isn't always fair...
Maybe one day they'll get the hint, but it would have to come from upper management.
Maybe there are no moderators because profanity has been used in forums.there is something we do not know
But I much believe that HP is of good morals .
But I put all things in God's hand anyway. He is the top.
@K&T I think you've nailed it on the head. Perhaps there are no moderators, just people who act only when a question, comment, or answer is flagged by a reader. Such a system allows people to grudge-flag & might explain what we all see happen
Hello Chloe. Hope HP is working out for you. Just keep writing.
I am so sorry you are going through this, Patricia.