A Black Power Group claims responsibility for the murders, also warning there will be more murders of police officers - one suspect caught was quoted as saying "I want to kill white people" News footage shows groups of Black Lives Matters protesters dancing and celebrating at the killings of officers. Will there be outrage from the anti-gun people since these murders had body armor and assault rifles or will it be glossed over since they were killing white people?
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Who do you mean by "you guys"? Could you be a little more specific?
Americans and their gun population
Thanks Aime, but I doubt we would ever agree on this subject. I guess you are assuming these Dallas shooters acquired their guns legally?
Aime,ignorant of facts r u?Use of guns to stop crime/in self defense r between 500,000 & 3.5 million/year, says the CDC in research asked for by President BO.2/3 of propaganda termed"gun violence"r suicide no control would make differnce on
How do you know it wouldn't make a difference? No one is willing to try. It's madness. People can still have guns to defend themselves w/ stricter gun control. 1/4 ppl in Canada have guns w/ gun control in place but gun violence is WAY WAY less.
Explain to me how gun control of any kind might have made a difference to someone who committed suicide. Really? That's your argument for gun control, it "might" make a difference on suicides?
Aime - So your thinking it would be much better if only the Federal Government had guns? If so you might want to think a little harder about this. When it comes to gun control laws, they don't even enforce the laws we have now.
I'm not talking about suicides. This topic is about the snipers in Dallas - and similar situations that seem to happen all the time down there.
Only fed gov? Huh? Where did I say that? Note where I said 1/4 Canadians have guns.
Aime - It is quite obvious you and I will never agree on this subject so let's just call it a draw.
Sure, Mike :) have a great day!
Aime, I said no gun control would make a difference on suicide and your answer to that was "How do you know it wouldn't make a difference? " so yes you were talking about suicide or else not even paying attention to what you read.
Not so much that I wasn't paying attention but that your response was a jumbled mess.
Nice excuse to totally ignore the CDC research & the fact it proves there is no reason to enact more gun control & that only 1/3 of the gun statistics aren't suicide which can't be prevented by gun control which btw has been tried & faile
So the astonishing amount of mass shootings in the US is "no real reason" to take another look at gun control? Okay then.
Aime - The big problem here in the US is they don't enforce most of the gun laws already on the books, but they want to make more laws they will probably not enforce. Does this make any sense to you?
Aime, You really don't get it do you? What is astonishing is the fact that between 500,000 and 3 million shootings, many mass shootings, many more than have occurred, have been STOPPED by citizens who carry weapons.
Mike - they should certainly enforce the laws already in place, I can definitely agree with that.
Taze - I hear that often, though the instances where lots of people die in mass shootings that's certainly not the case.
So you hear the CDC research often? but you chose to ignore that and dwell on a small number of mass shootings (in gun free zones) which pales in comparison to the numbers of mass shootings prevented by citizen's legally carrying guns? Hmmm..
Give me a number. How many mass shootings have been stopped by people w/ guns versus ones that haven't. The suicide rate is irrelevant because I'm talking about mass shootings. Let it go.
TazeBro, it appears your entire life is devoted to hyperbole. Assault weapons have no place in a civilized world. That's why they have them in this one.
Aime I already gave you a number,between 500,000 and 3,000,000. pay attention, Read the CDC report, Obama commissioned it! Let me guess you and Ronnie there smoke pot together? cause you really have a hard time paying attention.
That's not the number for mass shootings stopped by someone having a gun, that's the total # for guns used in what was considered a defensive situation (and is a massive span based on a relatively small sample size).
But thanks for trying I guess
Yes and the report says most of them could have resulted in mass murders. You can't identify a mass murder if it has been stopped, duh. read the report!
I've read the study. It says no such thing.
Oh, so you can identify a mass murder if it has been stopped? Just how do you do that?
You're the one claiming it happens! Apparently just by taking the # of supposed defensive gun uses and assuming they'd ALL have been mass shootings otherwise. That's so misleading it's almost cute that you believe it.
No one but you is being cute to say we need more gun control even though the number of mass murders isn't even a tiny fraction of 1% of successful defensive gun uses almost anyone 1 of which may have resulted in multiple shootings.Delusion
"Successful Defensive Gun Uses" is the same as: "Successful Defensive Hand Uses" when killing mosquitoes! Bravo! But isn't it much easier, and more effective to use repellent? Prevention of violence is king. U R Not. Get the real life!
So you think more gun control is equivalent to putting on more mosquito repellent....more evidence that you suffer from the effects of drug use. If the repellent isn't working in the first place put more on?
It's NOT gun control we need. I have taken in kids from the streets for almost 15 yrs. ANY weapon can be purchased EASILY by ANY criminal or anyone else knowing how to get one. Other countries have tried to warn us NOT to remove our guns. CRIME UP!
Exactly Rita, but no use telling the truth to people who live their lives ignoring the truth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAu44wVgb58
Black on white violence is a massive problem, but BLM says no, it is justified. And the media censors it, for example, YouTube bans proof of black-on-white violence article.
It is not surprising that racists will focus on black on white violence, but they never mention the fact that cops kill more whites than any other race. If they care so much about white people, why are the racists silent on this issue?
The thing is cops aren't shooting ANYONE based on race, there are black and white criminals you know who threaten the lives of cops and law abiding citizens. Which are you?
Crime was lower and employment higher for blacks in the 1950s per Thomas Sowell. Things have gotten worse as the black family deteriorated, illegitimacy rose from 25% to 75%. And you can't blame whites for blacks abandoning the married family
Maybe we should just send all of the black people back to Africa, perhaps bring back slavery to re-introduce some order and discipline into their lives. What do you think Tamara? Does that sound like a workable solution?
Freedom of speech only protects you from unfair government suppression or oppression, not from whatever social reaction your words incite.
In countries with gun control bans, killings increased? Where do you get this stuff? What is your source for that? You mean like Australia? You're completely incorrect.
If a cop happened to kill someone that you love, would it really matter if it was happening on a daily basis? Wouldn't that be one too many? Cops are killing white and black people, and it's been happening 2 long.They have been given too much power.
Or maybe you shouldn't love criminals.If that person was committing crimes & posing a threat to a cop's life it may have been the only recourse for the cop which is almost always the case.Grow up u r living a delusional fantasy world.
No, I don't love criminals, that's why I don't celebrate Columbus Day, or the 4th of July. And that's why I send money to Black Lives Matter.
Not surprised you support BLM. You have said you are a communist and BLM is run by socialist/communist operatives. More proof BLM is astroturf. http://www.aim.org/special-report/reds-exploiting-...
Can you even open your mouth without telling a lie. I am an anarchist, I never said I was a communist. You should take a course in reading comprehension.
So when I asked you:"why don't you move to a communist country?" &you said(& I quote)"WE are changing the system here.There's no need to travel."you meant you aren't a communist & you don't live here?Guess that's the drugs speaking.O yeah
"Is it better to say Black Lives Matter or Black Lives don't Matter" No one says black lives don't matter but it doesn't matter what anyone says, what's important is why they say it. People behind BLM movement are using BLM as a front
People have been saying "Black Lives Don't Matter " for over 500 years! Your lack of knowledge is only surpassed by your lack of intelligence.
Name one person,give me one quote of someone saying"black lives don't matter," & I'm not talking about the 1800's, today in America. I can give you tons of quotes of people like Farrakhan(Friend of yours?)saying white lives don't matter.
If you have nothing to say, say nothing Now that Blacks say for reason no BS BLM now others for no reason say ALM Why Y'all say All lives matter? Is it to deny BLM? Black sing we shall overcome now y'all sing . Black Redempion Song and saying taken
Klan members who have infiltrated police dept.. across U.S. don't stand up and say"I'm In the Klan" . People who rob banks don't say "I robbed the bank!" Put down the crack pipe.and get help immediately.
I can quote many who say black lives matter, you can't find one quote saying black lives don't matter? Guess I was right.
Lol! You've been saying "Black Lives Don't Matter"" since you started responding to this thread. If you don't like the way things are going, catch a slow boat back to the Fatherland.
An Ordained African-American Minister Asks "What If Whites Strike Back?"
Obama has never blamed cops for any shooting. His responses are always complex and usually accurate. It's just that in the Twitter age, people who can't comprehend complexity just assign blame.
There was only one shooter. While he did said he wanted to kill white cops, he also said he was upset with BLM. Plus, he said he wasn't part of any group.
"Obama and the Democrats can be blamed for instigating this violence by Black Lives Matter."
Please do not lump us together. I as a democrat believe that BLM is just the black equivalent to the KKK. Both are terrible movements full of racists.
The equivalent to the KKK? Only an idiot would believe that. The KKK believes in the systematic extermination of non-whites. They advocate for the purity of the white race. You apparently don't know anything.
Obama's constant pandering to blacks after every shooting aggravated the situation by degrees every time. His un-presidential,knee-jerk reactions are directly responsible for creating the situation today. Seems he forgets that he is half white POTUS.
I won't but I need to taze you, you ain't my Bro. Some people are super stupid a double dumb and only tell true lies and stupidity I dismissed you a few days ago because your ignorance is pain full don't ever comment to me and I won't you.
Junko, Maybe if you put down the joint for five minutes you can pay attention to where you are putting your comment.
Black Activists Call for Lynching and Hanging of White People and Cops
What did this guy do wrong? http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/21/us/miami-officer-inv...
That's a travesty.Appears that the officer didn't know what he was doing,maybe has a serious mental/drug problem,should never have been there.To use this as example that cops r racist is dishonest & also a travesty.btw he's a rich man now.
Given that a Muslim terrorist killed a hundred with a truck in Nice France and another in Germany used an axe to kill many, banning guns obviously doesn't stop people who want to kill you from doing so.
Tamara, but you see we not only need more gun control we need more truck and axe control which makes even more sense because we have no constitutional right to trucks or axes! So where is the outcry? I'm not hearing ban trucks and axes..
U know what,because Bush acts inappropriately(so did the Obamas btw at that service)doesn't mean it's excusable to dance at the death of police now does it?Bush&Obama may just be stupid but should be condemned as well as the street urchins.
Well done!Refreshing to see someone who searches out & respects the truth!BLM movement is based on total BS,if they cared about black lives they'd say something about the 97%but they don't.BLM foments hatred & caused these6deaths &wounded
Good points Clive. Gun control laws often aren't even enforced and criminals will get guns no matter what you do.Do u hear anyone calling for"truck control"after this nut in Nice France mowed down hundreds of people,80 some dead?Why's that?
Ban guns, knives and lorries, then killers would use fists and boulders. It is the mindset of the killer that is faulty. Study the reason why minds are affected in such a way.
There is truck control. You need a license to drive and must pass a test to use. Why not the same for guns?
I didn't say there wasn't truck control.& we have gun control too, but they call for more gun control whenever there is a gun incident,So you made my point, smart ass. Gun control works about as good as your truck control, it can't work.
Actually, car licenses and tests work quite well. The same for guns would be logical. A test and a license.
They have gun laws everywhere,doesn't stop nutcases or terrorists from getting guns.The point is if it did they'd now be calling for more truck control.The gun control people don't want to stop crime,they want it to control lawful people.
So maybe get rid of licenses, driving tests and speed limits? Why control people who follow the laws. Criminals will always speed.
Based on the CDC report if there were no gun free zones law abiding citizens with guns would likely stop any mass murderers in their tracks & the fear of that would stop mass murders.Just as trucks aren't the problem neither are guns
Complete garbage. How many good guys with guns have stopped anything? Most of these shootings do not occur in gun free zones. Dallas? How would cops tell good guys from bad guys? Stupid.
U r equating speeding w/mass murderers(in every case r deranged people or terrorists who never respect the law?I never made such comparison,nice try at a straw man typical liberal tactic.U want more gun control why not more truck control?
Truck v. Gun comparison is nonsensical. But I will take mandatory licensing, testing, and insurance for guns. They can at least be equal.
What a load of crap. You mean like kill Osama Bin Laden? Provide one link showing Obama vilifying the police. Your rhetoric is terrorism.
The can of terrorism that caused the death of hundreds of thousands of Americans during the Civil War. You are 100% right Sychophantastic.
Obama has vilified the police, the blood of these dead policemen are on his hands. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-KRtkjrTyU
You look good in a suit Ken, I'll bet you look even better with your white hoodie and a couple of burning crosses. Go ahead and circle the wagons, but the party is over.
Checked that link. Fox News reporting on the shootings. Are you kidding? Where is the link to Obama villifying the police? It's never happened. That's from people too stupid to understand nuance of thought.
It's no secret Obama vilifies the police,just look at any clips of him speaking about any of the blacks killed by police,start with Ferguson,it doesn't matter ahoot what newsoutlet it's his words https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAu44wVgb58
Good points,but what exactly do you mean by innocent?Is a person threatening a cop innocent?Is a person defying a cop telling him to drop a weapon or to submit to police innocent? Is he innocent when unarmed hecharges a cop like Ferguson
It is not always easy to determine a person's innocence. Every situation is unique. And there lies the danger. We cannot lump every case into a black or white category. I think that most people, when given every detail of an event, can agree.
True. In my area there have been 10-20 cop killings in my area and most white such as David Sweat. So blacks did shot cops but were killed with returning fire
I suppose you got those statistics off the internet? Oh that makes them true! Why don't YOU grow a brain!
End game? To turn US into a Marxist state. http://www.aim.org/special-report/reds-exploiting-... Don't for a second believe BLM is a grassroots movement, it is astroturf.
Do you even know what Marxism is?
Do you even not speak off the cuff without paying attention?Read the link i posted in my Answer & you'd know what I am talking about, http://www.aim.org/special-report/reds-exploiting-... Pay attention.
Ridiculous, right-wing drivel. Complete paranoia. I do agree however, that we may see a revolution out of it. If we don't stop these random, unjustified killings (and I mean of both cops and black people), bullets will prevail.
Most Americans command very little capital if any. What means of production do they own? The little girl selling lemonade can say she's a capitalist too! But I'm not impressed.. Communism could only improve the dreary life of a wage slave.
Right, like the Red Chinese or the failed Soviet Union, how about Cuba?That impresses you?If Communism is much better than Capitalism why do you live here?If you think communism better than capitalism you're a hypocrite to stay here.
I can tell that you are not very educated. It is a myth that the Soviet Union is communist. If you studied communism you would know. Read a book. We are changing the system here. There is no need to travel.
TheSovietUnion doesn't exist any more my friend so what the H r you talking about?The Soviet Union was once a one-party state,governed by the Communist Party with Moscow as its capital.A a COMMUNIST country.Hypocrite,you are for sure.
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So u are in total support of the BLM movement?Have u read this?http://www.aim.org/special-report/reds-exploiting-... appears If u are in total support of BLM u are either a sucker or a socialist/communist
U.S. government has "never" used "peaceful protest" when they are being attacked and soldiers are being killed. The very notion is absurd. Yet, naive people actually believe that peaceful protest works! Try selling that idea to the military.
Violent protesting is not getting the point across either. All it is doing is suggesting the very details that police officers blame their actions for. I fear for the country my biracial child must grow up in.
Obviously you have become comfortable living in a Police State. Not only are they killing innocent people, but they also extort money from the citizens in the form of unjustified fines and penalties. No , I have no sympathy for the devil.
Yeah, we live in a police state? The police across the country 99.9% of which risk their lives everyday protecting us and our freedoms are the devil ! Someone needs to change what they are smoking or see a shrink.
You have to hold police to a standard, or why not let any crook or yahoo put on a gun and ride around in a police cruiser?
Your perspective is not surprising. You are suffering from a form of Stockholm Syndrome. Look it up, you'll learn something new. Just copy and paste if you don't know how to spell it.
Besarien, good point, ignore Ronnie, he thinks all the world's problems are one big conspiracy after another, he's a communist and hates capitalism but would rather live here than in any other communist country because he's a hypocrite!
You don't know where I live Jose. That's your problem: you know everything and nothing at all.
So when u said to my question:why don't you move to a communist country?"We are changing the system here.There's no need to travel."You meant you don't live here?I doubt that!Hypocrite, communism has failed everywhere it is tried&U know it.
Defending his life from who? A young man he had already shot? If MB had continued to run he would have been shot again. So he stopped and turned to surrender but that was too aggressive, so he got shot again anyway.
You are believing a lie.MB didn't do what you said.He was shot attacking the cop who shot him in self defense.The grand jury given extensive evidence found Wilson did nothing wrong,even the Justice Department investigation cleared Wilson.
Um yeah,the gunman identified as Micah Johnson was working for the government! He &Obama are buds,Obama convinced him to sacrifice his life killing policemen,not because he was a hatefilled nut case, but because he was down with the Klan lol
Obviously, you are too "challenged" to connect the dots. Thank God people like you are a growing minority. Can't wait to send you back across the water!
Dots?That's all that'sleft of ur brain.Drug users twist everything to reflect preconceived notions not present,r prone to paranoia,conspiracy theories,never admit they r wrong,ignore facts,all characteristics of ur comments.U to aTDelusional
At least "delusional" is more fun than "Billy Bob Stupid". And by the why "tdelusional" is not a word. Even the spell checker says so. At least take the time to learn your own language.
Of course with dots for a brain you are to stupid to realize "U to a T" is not part of the word delusional when a limit of 250 words forces one to save space. A normal person would realize this and not strain to find something to criticize.
I'd love to see you provide actual evidence to support your suppositions. I want to see facts and not read your unproven, delusional fantasies..
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"... They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it." Woodrow Wilson
We're talking about a black man who shot dead & wounded cops.They weren't Klan members(btw the same FBI who let Hilary skate?).I have not read that one policeman killing any black man was a Klan member.If true that would be front page news.
Ever heard of a "News Blackout"? The recent uprising in France:a total blackout here in the West. Common Sense and Experience are necessary in order to navigate a minefield of deception Perhaps you should acquire at least one of these attributes.
More conspiracy theory, do you make these up yourself or are the voices in your head telling you these things? You can get help for your condition you know, first stop with the drugs, probably too late for that, so see a shrink.
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