More than 30 years or research show that attempts to refute false information often backfire and lead people to hold on to their misperceptions even more strongly. Source: Christopher Graves, the Harvard Business Review (February 2015), Why do you suppose that is?
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Sounds interesting. If the author is correct, we can never reach harmony and consensus... I am more optimistic. I think if we can show real results or progress, over time some will come around. Perhaps not all but enough to change the direction...
Last time there was unanimity was at Nuremberg. After the hangings the shutters came down. Wallop! Then the Cold War kicked in. Now there's no Cold War, it's just suspicion and suspended animation... We've got IS to contend with.
I think this is a simple way of looking at it, but it is also very true. Excellent response.
This analogy is correct re: religion! It doesn't matter if the Word of God is given (FACTS) which contradicts their "beliefs," MOST "dig their heels in even deeper!" WORD is a "threat to their belief systems" resulting in lost of souls! Great Resp!
If you notice, it all tends to be either/or thinking (which people should have outgrown during their childhood/youth) - well, that and an ego that's inflated beyond what is appropriate for their understanding of the facts. It's obnoxious.
An intruiging simplification of human moral standards. Think I may buy this book - it's by Jonathan Haidt - and find out more.
Thanks Glenis! I feel it's worth the purchase to enable us to understand "man's" thinking!
I pray that I NEVER allow the "flesh" enter and continue to "step back" and allow the Holy Spirit "lead and guide me into ALL truth!"
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Trial and error throughout your lifetime, including how you were raised. If you once believed in something, it's going against everything you thought was "right" if you change your mind. I think it is fear of the unknown.
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Answer in 2 words: COGNITIVE DISSONANCE.
This is why people will stubbornly adhere to their opinions despite facts.
I have members of my family who would have me on their prayer lists if they knew my views. It's why I keep them off FB and vent here on HP!
My wife goes to a church where there's lots of them. Their vicar's more up-to-date but he doesn't confront them. The world goes back 5,000 years... Noah's got a lot to answer for. Even the Inquisition would've had a ball with him,
Because.... what makes you think you're right, when I already know I'm right?
I'm thinking back to times that I HAVE changed my opinion... one such time was in believing I got enough 'water' in my system by drinking coffee, milk, pop, booze, ect.
When the Church ran our lives we didn't need to do our own thinking. Now we have religious freedom we are confused. The steering mechanism's gone.
Grace: "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof" Can't remember his name, but I can hear his voice..."Mendacity!". Great choice.
Alan: Good point well expressed.
The character was Big Daddy, he was very imperious & controlling. Things had to be HIS or NO way.
Alan: When did "The Church" run our lives? Those guided by the Holy Spirit and not man (Catholics) NEVER listened to "The Church" but GOD!
"The Church" is the reason so MANY are still "confused!"
"Steering Mechanism"=Holy Spirit=NOT "gone!"
Norine, have you no clue that Grace might be talking about you?
Grace is entitled to her opinion as much as you and I!
I have a t-shirt that says, "Isn't it boring to be just like everyone else?" I am the odd ball of the family. My sisters and brother do everything "right". I get them worried all the time because I don't cow down to bull
"It practically takes an act of God... or at least a book... to open us up to the realization someone else's discovery might be correct." You said it. It's not even so much that we can't accept we might be wrong. OMG - someone else might be right!!
Some people don't mind some other people being right as long as it's not someone that they need, for their own ego's sake, to be not-right. I think of it as selective narcissism, essentially....
OMG!! I just said those VERY words yesterday! Honest! I called my son griping that I "can't change a light bulb" because the metal bottom broke from the glass & stayed in the socket"..My brat said," Why do I not have a problem believing you Mom
"Where ignorance is bliss..." Learning seems to be anathema to rule in many places. Keep 'em dumb, keep 'em down, keep 'em quiet!"
Express, I know about this.^ There are people who rationalize negative situations although research tells them that the situation is negative. They delude themselves into thinking that ALL is well when it definitely.....ISN'T. IT'S called..DENIAL!
I could not agree with Alan & Grace any more than I already do!
This is an interesting take on the question. You make a good point, though some facts are as indisputable as gravity.
The fact that the sun was rising and setting was a fact until proven otherwise. It took so much time, effort and pain to change the opinions of pretty much everybody.
That is so true. How many herbalist were burned at the stake as witches.
It's how Hitler came to steer the Fatherland into the buffers.
Laziness in politics always lets in the 'duffers'.
Christin~~ Very VERY well said. Bravo! No argument here. Or....should I just for the heck of it?? LOL
lol Paula - you never know around these parts but this particular Question has a lot of very interesting answers :)
OH.....that's the word for them? Interesting? OK, I like it! LOL
Some people never want to change there minds no matter what unfortunally.They have just decided that they are correct so to say..
"limited personal experience" "take the trouble to investigate both sides: You said it!
I agree -- it is fear of the unknown
I believe the function of that belief is more vital than fear of the unknown though. If you can't convince them the function behind the facts you're providing them benefits them, then why should they change what they know? Solid facts aren't enough.
Thanks for answering it!
Welcome to the club, Dean. Tell me what I want to know, as long as I want to hear.
Au Fait: Thank you for this extensive contribution. I've got some Google-ing to do.
I agree with the Confirmation Bias, but it's only a tip of an iceberg. All other biases play a role to a lesser or greater degree. But thinking without biases is impossible. Strictly speaking, we are all as guilty as charged in fallacious reasoning.
I've said many times here on HP that our country's major problem is that we have been so wrong, about so much, for so long, our biggest fear is that somebody else might actually be right about something.
Very true Karin !even in the subject of religion. It's many times about ones ego .that seems more important then to admit the truth when they hear it.
But Jesus says we need adjust our thinking
Be humble and learn.
Well said friend.
Wow - That's a debate I'd be interested in seeing. Thanks, Dianna.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/natashaumer/science-facts... What changes in just 25 years. Imagine the more comprehensive list...
I guess when I asked this question I was thinking of facts on the record like indictments and convictions as opposed to accusations and rumors. Scientific facts do change over time- usually over a good deal of time. And religion is faith not fact.
"Everybody has a source that verifies their claim." So right. I think that is where verifiable facts are necessary. But folks find a way to negate even those sometimes.
lol I had to laugh because I recognize a couple of people in my own life who shall remain anonymous. You reason, explain, show them things - they argue til blue and then have an epiphany from Bob the bartender or whatever lol.
Then there's the thing where you make a statement. Someone says nothing. Two or three weeks later (maybe after they had someone confirm it, or maybe because it sounded good when you said it) they'll say it to you as if they thought it up.
ME.....You & Christin & I must know some of the very same people!! LOL!
People are so amusing and entertaining!
That's all right on a local level. On a national or international level we've got to leap the old 'familiarity' hurdle and start to think with our brains. There are too many countries who let their beliefs get in the way without us joining in.
@ Jack, this is so true. When logical findings are explained to such people, they prefer to rationalize, even deny whether to accept logical conclusions.
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"I don't think the information is false for the people that believe it." Therein lies the problem. Men in Saudi Arabia were told the male determines the sex of a child. One commented he believed that was true in other countries. So was it a fact ?
If a man had guessed right 5 times, or more, yeah he would be sure in his truth. You ask why they wouldn't listen... If you don't want to understand another's side, what is the point anyways? People have a reason for how they think.
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This is a truly honest answer. Let me see if I'm hearing you: We only change our minds if they aren't already made up?
Exactly. not quite made up, just not 100% sure ! Cause when a person is certain about a situation you can never change his mind, cause if he is, he must have done some researches, been in the situation or seen it .
"Emotions don't make something true or not true." Amen!
Good read. I recommend this hub to anyone interested in more on this subject. Thanks Virginia!
Thanks for sharing in this discussion. You made some good points.
Could you give examples of some of those crimes? Bill was exonerated after his impeachment, which is a charge not a verdict. And Hillary hasn't been convicted of anything that I'm aware of. But I'd be interested in hearing any you might list.
from huffpost: "The Clinton Foundation is a massive money-laundering scheme. Money goes in, State Department weapons deals come out." -- I think that's the sort of crimes we're talking about!
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I’ve posted before about how cognitive dissonance (a psychological theory that got its start right here in Minnesota) causes people to dig in their heels and hold on to their beliefs even when faced with overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
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