I'm just curious, if you watched the debate, who do you think came out ahead after the first debate between Hillary or Trump? I watched it for close to an hour, and couldn't take much more of it, : ) but I still would like to hear your thoughts. Thank you for taking time to answer the question.
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Trump was right,Lester did do a fine job as I explained. NBC News, his employer will probably make him employee of the year for his performance &give him a raise! (of course the women doing the same job as him won't be getting equal pay)
I know, Paula, I didn't see that one coming either about Holt! Yes, for Trump to say that, is stunning too...
The countdown is on for sure. I appreciate you for sharing your insights, Paula
Oh No, Paula!! You can't be serious my friend! Lester was very fair. Every time Trump wanted to counteract to something Hillary said, Lester let him and said, "sure-- go ahead." What!!!! I'm disappointed. I never knew you were a Trump supporter. :(
Hi Missy, We can all still be friends regardless of who we may or may note vote for as president. So many are still on the fence in trying to figure out each candidate's true motives.
Missy, U still don't know I'm a Trump supporter. I can't in good conscience support either. U'll find no less than 30 comments by me declaring my disdain & disgust 4 both. Here I expressed my opinion of Holt. I'm an Independent Missy. Rest easy
Obviously Missy has not seen any of my repeated comments of my opinion. She apparently thought I was "defending" Trump by pointing out Lester's blatant bias, slant & bold anti-DT attitude. I may be for neither but I AM for fairness & objectiv
Not 2 mention the fact that "moderators" R 2 also B totally unbiased & professional. Lester did himself an injustice & is now in the camp w/ Comey. 2 men who have sacrificed their former solid, respected reputations.They scarred their legacie
IMO, both parties R equally guilty of very crooked games & most of all, "grasping at straws" w/ anything no matter how insignificant or YEARS ago, just to take a stab & see if they can hit a gushing artery. I deplore that pathetic practice.
U want 2B POTUS? Tell me what (in detail) U intend 2 do 2 tackle the huge multitude of broken, destroyed, effed up issues of our nation. Economy, Military, Terrorism, Education, race relations. Talk of these & more. And talk to US not each other!
We do not care if U despise ea. other. I know how U feel. I can't stand either of U myself! Don't let this shock U, but the vast majority of voters don't give a damn who DT slept w/ or who Chelsea's Dad is. This only tells me politicians are human!
Exactly, Paula! You should be the moderator of the debates. Right, we already know the candidates despise each other and just want to know what they will do as POTUS. Good points shared, Paula. Thank you.
Now act like human adults whose JOB it is, BTW 2 work for the American people & the state of our Union!! Remember? WE pay U idiots & not 2 listen 2 UR insulting banter & attempts @ character assassination. B different. FIX OUR COUNTRY!!
Hi Scott, Thank you for sharing that info. Yes, that is rare. Interesting.
So, does that prove that mass media bombardment can shape people's opinions? Does that tell us whether or not despite his 'losing' the debate they will still vote for him? I guess it depends on how the question was posed to them.
Not true,include the12% that saidwas a draw then the number that said "Clinton won"(read it closely)is really less than 2to1. See that's how the media deceives&media polls may not be accurate simply because most people use cell phones now.
So the conservative Fox News that bombards conservative viewers with conservative reporting is deceiving conservative voters by saying that Clinton won? Interesting viewpoints.
Scott, I watched Trump get stomped by Cruz, Rubio, and the Mods... he looked far worse in that debate than the one against Clinton. Fox declared it a disaster for Trump, then Trump went out there and resoundingly won most states that voted the next
Ken, would you agree that Trump got those votes more from people angry at Washington, Wall Street and the ruling class than from the debates?
Yes I would say they are the difference makers.
You have your 25%+ pro-Rep, anti-Democrat party voters.
And this election I think you will have 30%+ of the votes for the anti-Establishment, Outsider, made up of Independent, Rep, Dem voters.
Scott why do you always blanket a news channel or person and put words in other's mouths.I never said Fox deceived by saying Clinton won,I pointed out how any media can subtly manipulate the facts and people like you blindly eat it up.
Last comment. People like you blindly eat it up
Thank you, Dashing, for answeing the question posed. Yes, she is certainly a politician and you've shared good insights into the real world of politics and how it all works, sadly. True, he is unpredictable. Great answer.
You hit the nail on the head without realizing it... Trump is running against the Establishment. Against the farce of party politics. Against the corrupt Washington that is controlled by International Corporations, Wall St. and mega-Billionaires.
Well said. What concerns me is the continued & deepening divisions on both sides. Most of it is just bcuz we let the media - that makes money off of hype - keep us all so stirred up. Bush & Obama didn't ruin the world - neither will Hillary o
Yes, the media can get us all worked up if we allow them to do it.
But didn't Trump say he had the winning formula to come out #1 ... no preparation?
Great comment, I like the perspective you have on it.
I would be willing to bet however, if Clinton's buttons were being pushed just as often/hard as they go at Trump, she would be just as erratic in her responses as he is. Scary, but we've seen it.
Yes, interesting comment, Catherine. Thank you for sharing your perspective here on all of this. I believe you have a lot of valid points there.
But she did not watch the debate.....didnt you delete me for that reason?
No, I didn't delete you, Leslie, and said I went ahead and allowed your resonse. I delete the comments when there is name calling on all.
But Clinton only has a few buttons that can be pushed and they have all been pushed countless times over the years. Trump, on the other hand, has a new one every time he opens his mouth and speaks another lie.
Hillary won it in the eyes of her supporters. Trump did not come across as a good debater. The Media felt she resoundingly won. The majority of non Hillary supporters felt Holt attacked Trump, Hillary was a jerk, and what Trump did was OK.
Well, then she must have a lot of supporters in all the non-partisan analysis of the speech, then. Nearly every analysis stated she won. Nearly every major media outlet states the same.
Agree, mearly every major media source did, nearly every major media source is worthless, 6 Monolithic Corporations control Almost Everything We Watch, Hear And Read. Nothing I heard or read from any individual thought differently than I stated.
Hasn't put her ahead in the polls, the national polls are not imptnt, what counts are polls in toss up states &there the people polled thought she won but no sign it changed those polls.Obama's 1st debate w/romney was way worse than Trump's
So suddenly polls are not important and the media is owned by corporations? Non-Hillary Supporters, here's your new phrase of the day: confirmation bias. Oh another word: Gish Gallop. Romney did it; Trump too. Both failed.
Hi Dean, Thank you for actually answering the question posed here. Let's Keep it to the question posed everyone. Thank you. No name calling or I will delete.
Dean, it did put her ahead in the polls. Fox News said she won it by a margin of 3 to 1.
Nothing sudden about the media Dean, back in 1979 approximately 50 corporations controlled the majority of all news media in the United States. Today, its only 6, and 5 of the six work with one another and Washington to stay on topic.
Ken, what I'm referring to is that every time I bring up a salient point, somebody tries to move the goalpost. If this is what to be expected, then the argument is done. BTW, I was once part of the media. As teacher I evaluate speeches, too.
If you want to say Clinton won, that is fine, it is an opinion based 'fact'... its not like a math equation where 2+2 always equals 4 and views and opinion have no factor. If Hillary were attacked with the vigor Trump is, she would fair equally bad.
Trump was on the attack and it failed. He resorted to interrupting Hillary and Holt and as a result was being fact-checked. Now he's crying sour grades. As far as the opinion/fact thing...ironically I just published an article about that.
Thank you for sharing your perspective here.
Hi JOC, thank you for answering. It did seem that Trump was not prepared and Hillary was prepared. She is a true politician and trained to debate no doubt.
Leslie, it is anyone's guess on that one.
Holt asked the same questions of both HC & DT w/the same amount of time to answer and rebut all Qs. I watched and saw no bias at all. I guess like Trump his supporters are sore losers.
This question is posed to those who actually watched the debate and so I should not have allowed your answer but decided to let it go. Let's keep it to the question posed, please, or I will have no choice but to delete.
Lester Holt did a terrible job. He objected to Trump interrupting Hillary 51 times. He challenged Trump on several well-documented lies.
How dare a moderator do such a thing? I can't wait for Trump to take over the country and ban all media.
51 times! Wow, I knew it was a lot ...
Sorry for the sarcasm. I wanted to delete it after posting, but the system doesn't allow it.
Hahaha ...no, humor is great and needed in these times, Scott! @Leslie, your answer is still posted. I only delete when we resort to name calling.
Wasn't a debate,Jester Lester made it a shill for Hillary,giving her softball questions,nothing about any of her scandals(documented lies btw)that endangered national security."Ban all media"another one of Scott's absurd Trump accusations
Hi Leslie, I realized that I have already deleted some of his comments because of name calling, and I'm going through the others now, and don't see more with name calling, but will watch out for more. Thank you.
The last 2 sentences 9 comments up 9 days ago. i dont understand how you missed that?
Leslie, I really don't think he can help it. He attacks like he's ADHD. Can't wait 2 rant & insult at EVERYONE! Maybe he's still in the young punk stage of life. Good news. It's almost over!!
Hi Leslie, OK. I went back and deleted some where there was name calling. I see that comment up there where he said "stupid" questions but didn't call you stupid but your question. I will delete it though.
So I take it you are determined, no matter what, to vote for Trump then?
Thank you, Flourish, for answering the question posed and stately exactly why too. She did stand her ground. Trump was not prepared at all and it is true he did not answer the questions asked of him. Good observations.
Hi Lorelei, Yes, it does seem Hillary was prepared. Maybe Trump learned a lot from this debate to be prepared. We shall see.
Hi Demas, Yes, she is articulate no doubt. That's is trillion dollar question! Thank you for participating.
A law student, yeah, who flunked the DC law bar, so she went to the easier AR, laughed about how she got a guilty child rapist free. Neither she or Trump can rein in the debt, it's too far gone already and no one person can do anything.
Remember the last time the budget was balanced? Under Clinton. It was a hopeless issue then, too. Mr. Clinton may be a womanizer, but it has always appeared to me most male politicians are. Doesn't mean they or their wives can't rule the world, ha!
Misfit,again you never look past liberal talking points.Balancing the budget under Clinton was a byproduct of the GOP’s single-minded crusade.Read the facts http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/no-bil...
Hi Gordan, Thank you for answering the question posed and for sharing why. Yes, he did not seem prepared as Hillary. Oh, I'm not up to speed on the video scandal ...
Those online polls allow anyone to vote and vote as many times as possible. So political operatives take advantage of them. They are silly entertainment and don't have any scientific credibility.
Hi Jerry, Thank you for answering the question posed and why you chose Trump. The only polls that are reliable are the scientific ones.
Hahaha Marlene, maybe I need to get a bowl of popcorn and a glass of wine for the next rounds too.
Thank you for actually answering the question posed. Those are good observations there you have shared. Haha ...I love that "lame-stream media"!
(smirk) I stole that "lame-stream" comment from someone else. I get a laugh every time they say it.
Well, thank you for sharing it here! Seems fitting.
Hi Thelma, Thank you for answering the actual question. I will have to say I agree with you ...neither won. She did have that fake smile going. I was hopeful that Lester would be a great moderator but of course that did not happen.
Hi Vince, Thank you for answering the question posed and stating exactly why you think so. You've pointed out good points to each candidate's strengths and weaknesses. You're right about who we like and therefore thinking that candidate won.
Trump condemns the media, but he loves the attention he gets from them because of his controversial comments and actions.
Note that he doesn't have to pay a dime of campaign funds as long as the media keeps covering his comments. That's smart.
Hi James, Yes, I believe he has struck a nerve ...Hmm, well, that's true about the attacks on women, especially being her husband ...some may say she was just defending her husband against the women, but it takes two to tango. Thank you for answering
Hi Ec ... Thank you for answering and telling why you choose Hillary.
Hi Ravin, thank you for answering and sharing why you choose Hillary.
Yes, it was difficult to watch, I will confess. Hopefully, the next two debates will be more focused and professional all around.
That is so strange indeed, Julie! I checked those out and they are perfectly good and well-written answers ...Must be that those who support the other candidate voted down? Makes no sense to be hidden at all, no bad language or even insults?
Hi Rizwan, thank you for answering here and sharing why you choose Hillary.
Well said, and pretty much another example of what I have heard from everyone that was not firmly entrenched in Clinton's corner before the debate.
I'd consider myself to be entrenched on Hillary's side. She had my vote a long time ago. But, I really don't think Trump would be that bad. I think it would be good for the GOP & Republicans in general to experience a non-religious kissass as lea
Hi Rock Artist, yes, good observations on your part, and I believe you may be spot on. Thank you for participating here.
You and I share the same thoughts Rock Artist, especially about Hillary being so smug!
Hi Jeremy, Thank you so much for answering the questions posed and stating exactly why you choose Trump in great detail.
You mean like the scandal when she was being mean behind the scene?
At least we can find information on his tax plan, since there's no information on his tax payment.
Hi Edwin, thank you for answering. She did seem a bit fake with that smile and then seemingly appeared to know what questions were being asked, but then Trump did not seem on his usual game and caught off guard.
Yes, I certainly did notice all of that by Holt and so did millions of others. I was looking forward to a nonbiased debate but ...Thank you for sharing your detailed thoughts here. I appreciate you.
Has there been one time in his life, ever, when he takes responsibility for failure? Seems like this guy cant stand on his own two feet. Its always someone elses fault.
Leslie how do you know how many years Jester Lester has been registered as a Republican? and for your information Trumps biggest enemies are Republicans or haven't you read about the "Never Trumpers." His bread isn't buttered by Republicans
Great job putting it into words, you have a better memory for it than I do.
Its hard to imagine anyone over the age of 35 could have missed Hillary and Holt hitting Trump with the Iraq support, when we all know Clinton voted for it... bizarre indeed.
Almist as bizarre as trump going on and on and on about bills woman problem, when hes got one of his own. Media is protecting trump, not going after him.
Hi Everyone, Thank you for participating but let's be mindful of the actual question posed, please.
Faith, you're a great moderator. We need more of you around here. Keep up the good work!
Haha ... Thank you, Scott. That is kind of you to say.
Seems like a battle within the King's court -- we've got a jester, a trumpet and in my state of Maine, we have LePage (AKA the page). I'm not voting for any. I'm voting for Dirty Harry, even though I'm throwing away my vote.
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