The leadership in the GOP have basically deserted Trump. They've said, "The people that make up the GOP are idiots, and we refuse to support Trump." They've raised their middle finger to us all, and told us to get lost. Will you continue to support the deserters? Is there a viable alternative to the liberal, socialist agenda that the Democrats are shoving down our throats? Is there a viable alternative to the GOP's leadership that are ignoring what the base of the GOP want? Trump draws thousands of people and yet the GOP elite state that they know better. Thoughts?
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Based on our decline since the 70s and our continuing wars, and losing them all who would you say were presidential candidates that were prepared to be presidents. My point is that saying Trump isn't prepared puts him in with the pro politicians.
Discussion, I hope.
So, your feelings are that the GOP does not deserve support anymore?
I know that Trump is the outsider, but does that mean the GOP is done?
My feelings - the GOP has told it's members - screw you!
Actually Obama got very little support from Democrats on TPP. Elizabeth Warren and other Democrats along with Bernie Sanders were very outspokenly against it.
As noted neither party is standing on "holy ground".
John I have never bought into one party or the other, so much as looked at the choices and voted for who I thought was best... usually at the end of the day, I don't think it has mattered much. Rep or Dem very little +ps impact is made for Americans.
Can't argue with you Ken.
That's why I think everyone who used to support the GOP should stop, look at viable alternatives. And really, I see nothing out there that has a chance in hell of saving the country.
I think the GOP is irrevocably fractured, it began with the Tea Party who are anti- Globalism/Trade agreements that put American workers at a disadvantage, and anti-Obamacare. They voted in the Reps to make changes, Reps lost them forever when no ch
Both parties are corrupt and dysfunctional as are their loyal party voters who followed them like sheep instead of guiding them to excellence and prosperity for the US. Trump took down all contenders, as they were all weak. Look where we are today
Prefer this to be a discussion.
NATO - Europe needs protection from what enemy? Russia, China?
Free trade - I don't see free trade agreements, but lopsided ones that put the U.S. at a disadvantage
GOP elite should ignore it's supporters
1. NATO - Counters both Russian and Chinese expansion. Forces in Europe protect EE. and their naval forces patrol southeast Asia. The Adm. Kuznetzov deployed this morning for Syria.
2. TPP - Helps counter China throughout Asia.
What threat is China and Russia?
They bombing in Yemen, Iraq, Afghanistan. Libya and Somalia?
RS took part of Ukraine after U.S. intervention
Georgia - kind of iffy.
TPP - another lopsided agreement.
We are not world police.
There's not enough room to reply. Sorry Brad/JW or I'd more detailed. Anyway, Putin is a bad guy. A murderer. There's no moral equivalence in the U.S. President. If people can't see that, there's nothing left to say.
We support the country the chops off heads and stones women to death.
I'm sure the American Indians would disagree, as those in Benghazi who lost their lives
But, your view is your view. Still see no reason to support the GOP.
CJ that is why the GOP is irrevocably fractured, free trade means lower wages, less jobs, open borders... hard working Americans don't need a PhD in economics to see we have lower wages, less benefits, fewer jobs per American than we had 20 years ago
No reason to support the GOP.
GOP "leaders" have had 8 years to groom some one that made sense, they failed.
The GOP had a chance to stop some of omamama's socialist agenda, they failed.
The GOP gave the middle finger to supporters, end for me!
I like this well thought out reply... but for many of us, it is more, we understand that open borders, free trade, no taxes or tariffs on imports DOOM the American worker to lower wages, less jobs, less benefits, etc. we are against Washington's cor
John, I'm not sure what you mean about Obama's socialist agenda. The only major legislation he got passed was Obama care and no Republicans voted for it!
The GOP doesn't have the votes to overturn a presidential veto on bills to throw it out.