I have been in some tough scrapes. And I have shaken at least seven leaders(Presidents from foreign countries and our own) Perhaps Valéry Giscard d'Estaing was most memorable as Kissinger was shook my hand next -- and I see him influencing Nixon out of Vietnam. Yes I respect NIxon for saving some brothers. Clinton is and will always be epic and will be Reagan. Roosevelt was handicapped. Salinas down Mexico way was strange as his mom seemed to tell him what to do. Tr?n ??c L??ng of Vietnam was just so brave and yet friendly. Did someone say that I am equal to any? Can I judge them? I respect.
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Kevin that sounds reasonable. And I think we can make some kind of determination in a year. You do realize that you would basically need the information he gets in order judge him and not what media tells us.
Chris, I got goosebumps reading this. I met a man in Sedona Arizona, who had performed for presidents. He was oft misquoted. But but he said, in that Art Barn, who had seen Lucy, Mae, and John Wayne, that he never met a man (more later)
Only a man with rose colored glasses can look at Obama and walk away with your view. You are forgeting the fact about ACA. It was created with lies and sold to the American people ala Jonathan Gruber. It was designed to fail. Single payer was plan...
Wow. I wish I'd written this comment, but I'm not there yet. Folks like you and Eric need to keep speaking out - to help the rest of us along.
Jack, look at my whole comment. Love them (including Obama) and despise them at the same time. If we dealt with every person as you describe, there would be no love in the world. No one will meet your expectations all the time, except you, possibly.
True Story - Mel. I read this and immediately felt a little uneasy that you take such a rational clear thinking approach. I reckon I have just come to expect vitriolic nastiness these days. Could you have to many supervisors? Just saying.
A good point of view, Mel. I hope I get there. (My daughter is also a federal employee. She's DOD, so maybe she is safe.)
Thanks for your comment John. I am not a good one to ask about popular verses states rights. I come from a non-populated state. And I don't want New Yorkers telling me what is right on my ranch. I am a fan of the electoral college and rural rights.
Eric, you basically reject an democratic system. A system where every vote is the same.
Yes that is accurate. The US is not and probably will never be a direct democracy where the majority completely dictates to the minority. We would have no civil rights. Democratic Republics work better. Like ours since about 1778 or so. Federalism?
So you prefer it that a minority tells a majority what to do. To me that's an unjust system. Like everybody is equal, but some are more equal then others..
Well Peter we basically have that with things like, Black Civil Rights, Gay rights, Children's Rights, Senior Rights. So sure Peter in our constitutional government the minorities are dictating certain things.
Eric I don't buy that kind of reasoning. This 'minority' was chosen by a majority.A government is a selected group of professionals. And if correctly,it is a representation of the majority
If the government is only reperesenting 10% you have a prob.
Then we have a problem in this country. Way less than 10% of us are; LGBT, handicapped, only speak a foreign language, are injured Vets,or pregnant mothers. Folks who are in the minority are protected in this country. Only population matters?
Eric your reasoning is false. The LGBT movement does not rule your country, neither disabled people. All the minority's together makes the population. And together you make rules for everybody. That's how it should be.
Peter, you make great points. There must be a balance of all 3 branches of Gov. It has worked and still does "If the government is only reperesenting 10% you have a prob." Yes if the gov. was then we may have a prob.
John you must read The Lost Mandate of Heaven. It is about the betrayal of Diem. Of course this is an area of great interest in my home with a Vietnamese immigrant mom and wife.The area of study takes time and effort. Father in law jumped with Ranger
Larry I find the intolerance of the "other" side's intolerance to be a favorite of mine. It is interesting that you feel the need to throw a right jab at the end of your answer. Just interesting.
The right jab comes from months of watching the left slouch toward anarchy while building a rabid wall of bigotry, racism and intolerance to hide behind - media included.
Tim that is a very cool answer. We have this notion in my Christian social circle. It is about loving one's enemy. This causes some muddying of the water. But for sure we can dislike the idea and like the man. Cognitive dissonance shifts truth here.
So, are you gon'na watch the inauguration today or boycott giggle + giggle. I think I will peek and maybe watch. I have never witnessed the event before. I guess I should make a nice cup'pa tea or two!
Tim, my eldest daughter lives and works within a 5 minute walk from the event. She is now in a cabin in Ohio that has no TV or Internet. I think I will catch a little. I must admit I see it more as a show, than real tradition.
A very interesting answer. No none has ever told me I seem that way before. I think I would feel very safe having a 100% Black and White understanding of everything. Crony-capitalists is a very interesting concept masquerading as a fact. Thank you.
SV, "heads of state should be evaluated based on their policies and actions." When head of st. comes directly from private sec., he has no record. We must hold this man accountable, but we must also allow him to lead.
"You seem to be confessing to having no distinct moral standards, along with a disinclination for intellectual rigor." This is a point of view. Not every reader of your comments will agree. I don't.
Maybe some folks should examine their moral standards and make adjustments. One who settles into my way and only my way has distinct standards. What if they are wrong. Should one stick to them? Of course some folks are never wrong ;-)
Thank you. I wonder if the notion that "my guy can do no wrong" and "your guy can not do anything right" came from teachers. What I can recall is that in our history classes -- one guy was a hero and the other guy a villain. ? Cochise?
You're welcome. : )
Yes, exactly. The hero/villain, right/wrong folklore has been effective since the kindergarten and still works as an unofficial life assignment.
Haven't we learned enough?
Clearly Peter, we cannot ever automatically respect someone. We must respect the office but not who sits there. There is a book called Honest to God -- two shrinks going back and forth about the type of honesty. Almost Trump v. Obama.
I like that Joshua, thank you. We humans seem to need to anthropomorphize or dehumanize depending on what I am not sure. The idea of some kind of devil that has a human body makes me shake my head. Same with "he is good" or "he is bad".
That is really a good course to follow. I tend to like men of power who succeed. Maybe it is a daddy complex thing. All these folks saying they like him as a man is interesting. Hmm I seem to like men of action even if I do not like the action.
I wonder Tamara if we are called at all to even try to fathom the words of some people. Somehow in so many there seems to be a disconnect between thought and speech. If one does not listen how does one here. And so should we listen to those who don't
Conservatives get the liberal perspective from educational institutions, mainstream media, pop culture. Liberals get to live in an echo chamber - and have to learn that others have valid concerns instead of namecalling them as evil bigots.
It always amazes me how your opinions about liberals R generally the same liberals have for conservatives. GOP twisted things 'opposite' like that over years. Good thing the majority in this country don't fall under either left or right extreme.
Misfit Chick - will you consider the possibility is that liberals redefined terms to alter their meaning to exclude themselves when bad and only cover their rivals?
I don't know how old you are, but I've been listening to the GOP take Dem arguments and twist them to make it look like they have the same perspective (so people will like them better) over the past few decades. It works well on their people.
If you do not mind Tamara and Catherine - may I point out that in all that back and forth not one issue was addressed -- it was all about my side is good and your's bad. Can a lib be right about recycling and a con right about trade agreements?
Well MC, U might not need 2 ENDURE the most Unfit, Unhinged DANGEROUS Meglomaniac in U.S. HISTORY named Donald Drumpf 4 much longer ~ VEGAS Odds ?? 4-1 he Lasts 6 MONTHs ~ Growing MASSIVE Protests & LAW Suits Against him have just begun
Thank you Catherine. I always get something from your positions and the talented way you relate them. If you pay attention at all to electronic connected things you will not be able to ignore him. But good luck in that endeavor.
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