Whether it be cops or politicians, usually it's the ugly ones who are making the news, killing people, and creating havoc. It appears there is a direct correlation between physical ugliness and mental ugliness.
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Bje, SPOT ON & RIGHT ON!!!!!!
If you look at the pictures of cops who have murdered innocent people recently you will see that most are ugly by the common standard. And in the military I noticed ugly men were more prone to barfights. The good looking guys had girlfriends.
Ronnie, you should have used a pic of Mitch McConnell and you would have proved you point in spades, he has got to be the ugliest man alive and his evil matches his ugliness.
Yes, the view from here is both magnificent, and at times quite frightening. I never realized as a child that the cutting edge not only offered the thrill of discovery, but that it could also rip a man to pieces and leave him to ruin.
Glenix, SPOT ON! You can't make this up! Human behavior & personalities can be quite riveting if you ask me. People are......something else!
I have let go of the notion of equality. It is my physical attractiveness that has given me an advantage. Ugly men begin as ugly babies. Anger is rejection, and love denied.Young females reject ugly males, and so they grow up to be tyrants.
I was born ugly. Pretty men took my ugliness as permission to do whatever they wanted to me because women who are not pretty are not valued by their society. It didn't make me a monster to be harmed by them; they chose to become monsters.
Agreed.I was labeled as "pretty" and given an advantage, but I understand it is only an illusion. However, I have benefited from the illusion and U have suffered. Society's denial/refusal to discuss the issue will not afford any improvement.
I think that's true. I think people treat and give more good attention for pretty people than ugly people, even at school. I heard that even teachers give more attention and care to pretty children I was praying that God bless me with beautiful babie
If he does that will be one less thing to worry about. People are cruel and hypocritical. Some people have been offended that I posed this question. But I am sure those same people didn't go looking 4 the ugliest person to marry.
People love and appreciate beautiness whether they admit it or not
Of course they do. And as soon as they start to age they get a face lift if they can afford it. But they'll be the first to jump up and say looks don't matter. If that's true, then they would keep their wrinkles, thin lips, big nose, and flat chest.
It's bizarre how you are ignoring the fact that money is far, far more important than looks in regard to male acceptance. Women don't dare reject even the ugliest man if he has money unless they are willing to face the negative consequences.
No, I haven't ignored that. I have been a professional musician most of my adult life. Women ignore my poverty because I am good looking and talented. A man without money "must" have good looks, or talent, or both to attract many females.
If you haven't ignored it, why did you use a rich man for your photo? Only the rich daughters of rich men can reject a rich man without consequences, so rejection by women wouldn't be responsible for his choices to hate no matter what he looks like.
We don't know how many good looking boys in his peer group. You imagine that he has had access to lower class females. Even if true, rejection by his own class would cause pain. Such men are like a cancer. Men such as I function as antibodies.
Only men with something deeply wrong with them go amok in response to rejection. Women are people. We are not obligated to have sex with any man who asks. Look to the culture that says we owe them sex no matter what we want for your answers.
If we consider domestic violence issues, Sharia Law, and the subjugation of women based on archaic "Christian Values", we find that a great majority of men suffer from a sickness. I am your champion. I would never indulge in such an evil mentality.
Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Jeffrey Dahmer was not ugly, Charles "Pretty Boy" Floyd was not ugly, Clyde Barrow was not ugly.
I worked with a man who was so handsome all the single women wanted him, then he was caught for rape and murder.
People are unwilling to face the truth about ugliness.There is much hypocrisy as well . Jesus is usually depicted as a good looking white man, but many Christians would assert that looks don't matter. I say give us an ugly Jesus and prove your point!
No, it is not so diverse. The models in magazines all have a similar feature set, just as women in beauty pageants. The same with men. Beauty has been clearly defined. You R an idealist. I have dated ugly women. And I knew they were ugly!
Magazines and pageants that is commercialized? Perhaps i am an idealist.LOL But it remains that violence and anti-social behavior is based on psychological and pathological reasons.it's admirable you dated ugly women. why did you date them?
Pragmatic reasons. Sex and companionship.If they cook that's a bonus. I do not recognize many of the ridiculous customs of society. Ugly women need love and sex too. I am their champion.I give them the goodness they so richly deserve.
I bet they are very thankful for your contributions. Your sacrifices and efforts are recorded in annals of human history.
We should all be thankful when we receive a blessing. Kindness is no great sacrifice when we understand reciprocity, and the Law of Gravity. Perhaps U have low self-esteem. But that is your cross to bear. I am in my power. I crow like the rooster!
Can you think of ten others? No, you cannot. Bundy was the exception. Most serial killers have been ugly men.
Irma Grese, Joseph Mengele, & Joachim Peiper were murderers who killed innocent people, including prisoners of war in COLD blood.
Most serial killers have been average-looking just like the rest of us. But if the amount of women writing into them is anything to go by a lot must be sexy to someone!
You are focusing on serial killers, which is a very small percentage. When you do the research you find that most violent offenders in the U.S. are unattractive white males. I've done the research.
There may be a small percentage higher than normal of good looking violent people - but this would be because as a society we let good looking people get away with more. They're opportunists and we already know bad behavior is a slippery slope.
The human is a sophisticated monkey. In the military, ugly men who could not attract females usually ended up in fights on the weekend. Their violence was directly related to rejection, and the old ennui of self-gratification.
Have you considered that people who take jobs that may require them to kill for money might not be representative of the general population?
Yes I have considered. The U.S. military is sanctioned by the majority. In other words,the murder of innocents is accepted in the United States. Thus,men in the military "are" representative of the general population. Welcome to America.
I take it you are unaware that less than 0.5 percent of the population serves in the armed forces? 99.5% of the population would literally rather do anything else. Most people would literally rather die than be required to kill for money.
It appears that UR unaware that 0.5% of the pop. is not bankrolling the U.S. war machine! American taxpayers R paying 4 the weapons of war. That makes them accessories to murder. Denial doesn't alter the equation. The bombs keep falling.
Society defined beauty long before I was born. I am simply making observations based on those definitions and available data. Discussing the prevailing social order is hardly judgmental. Causality can open the door to understanding violent behavior.
THANK YOU, Ralph. This is so junior high.
Lets' get on the same page Ralph. The hundreds of millions of people on this continent who subscribe to Manifest Destiny are not my "fellow human beings". If I found a relative had stolen something from someone, I would demand that he return it.
I hadn't realized the narrative had shifted to crime and punishment - is that a diversion on your part? Re-reading your question makes me more certain that it is you trying to pass judgement, not society in general.
I simply responded to your remark. There is a genetic component to the concept of beauty. This concept has been exploited and magnified especially by Capitalists for material gain. I am only observing the fallout.
Sounds like you're drinking your own kool-aid now Ronnie. I don't agree that your appraoch was akin to a societal study, else you would have worded it differently - you posted an opinion (yours) and asked if others agreed.
Tyrants smile, kiss babies, and then cultivate the killing fields. Your propensity to follow a crooked path while perceiving deception as a virtue is quite remarkable. It appears U have grown accustomed to 2 faces.
Which society defined beauty Ronnie? American, Ethiopian, Finish, Thailandian ? The concept of beauty is not a fixed value. It changes over time. Different cultures have different points of view towards beauty.
European has defined beauty! Vogue, Playboy, Penthouse, Beauty Contests. The women portrayed as beautiful have European features and a similar feature set. Black women only rate if they also have softened European features. Hypocrisy flees from me!
Interesting that you keep diverting to avoid the fact of how superficial you've revealed yourself to be. Criticizing me won't make you any better of a person, nor will it justify your negativity toward people who you deem as ugly.
I appreciate your commentary, but I suggest you refrain from lying. I don't subscribe to beauty or national borders. Exposing truth is positive. Are U suggesting that U have favored ugly women over the prettier ones?
So suddenly the "ugliness" in your theory is measured along European standards? What crap theory it is.
Besides, Beauty is a fashion thing. 50 years ago the "beauty" models in your Playboy and Vogue had completely different bodies.
Only a fact that has existed forever. All you have to do is look at a majority of models, observe beauty contests, look at which men get the most dates, and which celebrities ride more on their looks than talent.Overall, European features prevail.
Wrench, I agree with you on the ethnicity. Entertainment industry presents white women as the beauty symbols. Add botox for full lips/Blacks born w/ full lips are made fun of. There not enough space to go into detail. Big butts? No room to discus
Thank You Diane! This is a well known fact and easy to verify. Beautiful black women without European features are rarely given a chance. Mariah Carey and Halle Berry are two examples of biracial women who R considered by many to be "black".
Wrench, Hispanic people do it to themselves. The fairer skinned Hispanic kids are called "white." The beautiful shades of brown are not appreciated. The "good looks" standards impacts children more than adults. Some folk are cruel about deformiti
Yes, the lighter skin is always considered more attractive. Our land was not only stolen, but the Colonizers have attempted to destroy our own self-image: The final stage of genocide. We must resist colonialism and embrace our own heritage.
Hi Sherry.....I see a photo of Jeff Sessions but I don't see Mike Pence, unless there's something wrong with my feed.....:) ?
Pic is Sessions. Beauty is transitory, so I am using society's def. not mine. Society says he is ugly. Reality reveals most politicians R evil. Government is evil. We do not need criminals to tell us how to tie our shoes and extort money from us.
So is he evil and ugly?
U decide. I'm just the guy who stirs the pot. I didn't buy or make the ingredients. Except 4 those who die young, I don't think there is a man living who won't get ugly at some point. Unless I die soon, I'll also have to swallow that bitter pill.
Yes, I agree with much of your commentary. But opinions don't make people physically ugly. And I maintain that when some people are rejected based on looks they can become anti-social and even violent. Good looking people have other motivations.
Most I have seen are ugly men. I know of only two accused of being good looking: Bundy and Ramirez. Also a majority of killer cops fit the popular definition of ugly.
THANK YOU! Irma Grese, an SS woman, was a sadist who tortured prisoners in Auschwitz. She was physically beautiful.Dr. Joseph Mengele also tortured & killed prisoners.He was very handsome physically.Eleanor Roosevelt, plain, was a great humanist
I would consider Irma Grese to be ugly by popular standards. Exceptions do exist. But how do you explain the abundance of ugly police officers who abuse and kill unarmed civilians? The white supremacists who have recently killed are also ugly.
I'm not just focusing on murder. Seeing is believing. In my research and personal experience I have found that ugly men are more prone to aggressive and violent acts. I am convinced that acceptance or rejection by females is a key factor here.
Yes, that is what I have observed. In the military I noticed that men who were successful with women were less likely to engage in bar room brawls and other violent behavior.
Has it occurred to you that women reject violent men out of fear of violence rather than because the men who'd probably abuse them aren't pretty? None of the "ugly" men I've dated were violent people.
Never suggested "all" ugly people are prone to violence. There are various reasons why men become violent. One is female rejection at an early age. Men, unlike women, have a profound need 4 sexual gratification, and the security of a mother figure.
No, my Disney days are over. I simply did my research and looked at images. Most of the images I reviewed of killer cops and politicians revealed people who would be considered unattractive. Anthony Weiner is a good example, but there are many.
Wrench is deep! He keeps it real!
LoL! Because I express my real personality, many people dislike and ridicule. That is not something I enjoy. Everyone wants to be accepted and liked. However, hiding my true self would make me a coward. I have chosen self-respect over popularity.
I feel you. I'm researching Baby Blue Walker, born Cherokee, named Fountain Thomas and James Thomas. I'm confused. Joining a Cherokee genealogy site to get some edumacation.
Maybe you have mentioned it before, but I was unaware that you had Aniyunwiya in your bloodline. Good luck with your search.
THANK YOU, Diane.
That's a good shot Diane. However, it appears to be a strawman. There are only 25 to 50 serial killers operating at any given time according to authorities. That means there are more ugly cops killing people than pretty serial killers.
Wrench, I was made to feel ugly as a child & had low self esteem. In my late teens I started looking pretty good. I feel I look great for my age. A student told me I was ugly & I laughed. I told him he must be looking in the mirror.
A deft response! As a child, low self-esteem produced by racism was offset by female acceptance and promiscuity.Being attractive was empowering. Consequently, I found deliverance through the illusion of beauty.
I think rejection does have a large part to play, but it's not only ugliness that causes rejection. Check this video of a college student just before he commits mass murder. He is not so ugly, but he is creepy.
If U knew me you would most likely fall in love. I have become accustomed to that over the years. Acceptance by females, beginning with my mother, is the foundation of my self-esteem. An ugly man is a very sad song.
Idealism here=denial.Opinions don't make people physically ugly. It is understood that various factors can lead to violence. But at various levels less attractive men commonly engage in violent behavior. I witnessed this first hand in the military.
Outer beauty can mask much ugliness inside of actual horrendous deeds. Please rethink such a question. It's very thoughtless and without merit. For some odd reason, I am vicariously embarrassed that anyone could even contemplate such a view.
Amen to your reply!
Believe it. RW lives to post crass questions because HP lets him get away with it. He deems himself the "sexiest man in the world." Yeah, you heard me right. If that's not crass & ridiculous, I don't know what is. Report him. He needs to go.
I am an artist and a philosopher. I have written many hubs. I am on the cutting edge of a new social paradigm. We must accept truth over idealism if we R to survive. Society has given me an advantage because of my good looks. We must understand why.
Ronnie..I know & you know that U say some of the outlandish things 4 shock effect. Often, a person can't be "good-looking" enough to outweigh their ludicrous behavior & remarks. U need to ask yourself WHY you do that. Do U just enjoy the game
The path to freedom cannot be realized at a glance, but through a series of events to be considered as a whole. "Why" is found in the "Why Not?" At every turn we must expose the corruption that gives birth to confusion, fear, and the weapons of war.
+1,000,000,000,000,000 to you Nadia! Such elementary & puerile stereotyping.
When a woman has a crush on a man it is not uncommon for her to be hateful toward him. Especially if she feels he is above her station and would reject her. But I have had ugly girlfriends as well as pretty ones. Ugly women also make better wives.
Agreed. That's the point I am making, but the Pilgrims cannot accept the truth. Criminals don't create themselves. They R manufactured by society in various ways. Rejection and ridicule based on looks is a prime trigger.
Nature can certainly create a criminal. A sociopath is a criminal from conception. Well, you know what I mean. It's in his DNA. Nurture creates criminals, but they're usually not serial killers. They commit crimes in the heat of a moment or a fit.
Dylan Roof exhibits little masculinity, and personifies the puny guy who always get's rejected. A girl that he liked chose a black guy instead, which provided the trigger 4 mass murder. Sexual gratification and acceptance could have saved 9 lives.
I agree. But anger is love denied. The killer in the Oregon attack appears to be an ugly man; most likely not popular with females.Had he been accepted I feel he would not have done this. I attribute my non-violent nature to popularity with females.
I have notice that some ugly people think they are beautiful. And beautiful ugly .it is really how you see youself what you believe.
But the ugliness is really in your conduct not your appearance.
As a child I never judged based on looks. But I was constantly told by others, children and adults, that I was good looking. I had many girlfriends. Thus, my opinion of myself was shaped by others.
Good argument. But if U do the research the images do not lie. A majority of killer cops: men and women, would be considered physically ugly.Politicians as well. Mitch McConnell, Anthony Weiner, Hillary Clinton.
You say "Everyone Is Beautiful". Such commentary reveals that you haven't seen everyone yet. Stick around. Beauty and Capitalism are similar. If everyone was rich, great riches would have no meaning. Ugly must exist 4 Beauty to be seen.
Arslan, I am ugly, yet love is my only religion. It's very shallow to believe one must be physically beautiful to love themselves or others. The functions of your body and face are much more important than what they look like.
Do U see the double standard? U often say UR ugly. No one seems to mind. I say I'm good looking. People get mad! What's the difference? Many ugly men have been jealous of me. If they had loved themselves my looks would not have mattered.
No contradictions in my comments You have issues with reading comprehension. Women have control unless UR gay. RU gay? We R living in the stone age. My argument is based on factual data. Another ugly man just killed two in Portland.4 the record!
We are all prejudiced. Speaking from repeat experience doesn't make one wrong. I see you are a pastor. When people come to you with heavy hearts, do you listen with compassion or dismiss their concerns? Not being sarcastic. I'm a Christian.
G. Dianne. yes. compassion is a central part of my nature. sometimes God has to soften us up? Ronnie, I guess you would purge the world of ugliness? kill the frogs? like chickens, peck any flawed to death?
off with his head! was it Mad Hatter?
I do not subscribe to beauty, national borders, or white supremacy. I am simply observing what exists in society. I would purge the world of the people who perpetuate and exploit the notion that there is something wrong with being ugly.
On first read, subject may sound ridiculous; however, the purpose of dialog has been accomplished.
Tracy, I had a vision about you. In my vision you fell off a ladder and broke both of your arms and both of your legs. You also went into a coma that lasted for ten years! I suggest you have your Dr Shifu cast a spell of protection around you ASAP!
Good looking serial killers R the exception. Society determines beauty.You will not see an ugly woman on the cover of Playboy. Most killer cops are ugly. If U think ugly is so great, go find an ugly man and marry him.
I just don't think anyone can really say who is ugly and who is not its all a personal opinion.
Sounds good and adhere's to popular social etiquette. But some people are born stupid, and some are beat with an ugly stick before they are born. That's just the facts of life. You are pretty now. But if U live long enough U will grow old and ugly.
The same bias exist regarding age. When my admin thought I was making to much money and too old, I was evaluated almost daily. I taught choir - was told not to sing until 2 wks before program? Duh? Make students take Cornell Notes while I lecture.
Correct! In real life the majority favors beauty and rejects ugly. A beauty contest says: If UR ugly we will not even consider you! Hugh Hefner says, "Only pretty women need apply!" Leading men R usually handsome, especially in romantic movies.
"Beauty fades away, but ugly holds it's own". That is quite poetic. I will use that as a basis for a song one day. If the song becomes famous I will shout it to the world that your mother-in-law inspired it. You have nice teeth.
I heard, "Beauty is only skin deep. Ugliness is to the bone." Can you work with that? Just kidding!
That's another good one Diane. Yes, I can use that. Thanks!
That's interesting. I am an empath, perhaps you are also. I think it is the rejection many people, especially men, experience due to ugliness that causes them to become abusive. I don't think the ugliness itself is a factor.
I believe ugly happens only from a weak damaged soul which cannot rise to entertain any notion of beauty.
And that is the only reason why they will stay ugly.
Please clarify your comment. Are you suggesting that a damaged soul manifest's itself as an ugly person in the material world ? That the soul can literally affect our physical characteristics?
Dana, you are wrong. I'm ugly by accident of birth and assault by men. Genes control what I looked like before people decided to try to kill me and then they did. If souls are real and genes are not, they are the ones with weak, damaged souls.
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