Donald, in his brilliant statement by both his lawyer and his own mouth, has opened up the door for Muller--Special Counselor--to depose him under oath. By claiming Comey lied under oath, Trump will be invited to answer questions about the meeting between the two. Smart? You make the call!
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I agree, Lisa. He'll never put himself voluntarily in jeopardy unlike those he's thrown under the bus before when the going gets tough. He's basically a coward at heart!
Yes, he challenged London's mayor to an IQ test! I spit soda across the room when I read that one!
Jeez with all we now know - you still drink soda by choice? I assumed you would be in lockstep with Bloomberg.
I have asked over and over, please produce one lie? And actually T does what he says he will do. Do any of those that buy into T bashing ever get tired of wearing egg on their face? Wake up, it's time. You look so bitter, and unintelligent.
Did you even bother to read Mike's link showing the multitude of lies the Orange on has told, Sharon? You claimed to be a "reader" so then do so and stop telling a lie yourself about DT's honesty!
@Sharon Stajda - Oh now anybody who disagrees with you is an idiot. Nice try. No cigar.
Mexico will pay for the wall. Hillary sold uranium to russia. I will take care of vets. I will donate my hotel earnings to fed coffers.I wont play golf, ill be too busy.Ill never leave the white house.Ill release my tax returns if i win. What russia?
Trying to wrap my head around this thread. Trump is clearly not a politician and is incompetent as such because he is not a good liar. Lying and politics. If you are an outsider you cannot do it well. but Pelosi can? Good food for thought.
Not a good liar? He excells at it. He lies as a way of life. Where are the tax returns? Blatant lie. Wheres melanias news conference about not coming here illegally? Its ALL lies. Including this election.
very sound answer - I vote you Number 1 best
I think comey is beig honest. I think hes fired a warning shot: take this seriously!
Very good analogy. I find it a waste of time and energy arguing with idea's that were formed by innuendo. I learned early in life as a rule it's better to wait for the truth.
Yes. They lie and say "i miss spoke. I forgot". Ha. Anyone else wld be in jail. And hes already lied under oath before. What happened? Nothing.
Yep Shauna, Trump isn't accustomed to telling the truth and has a difficult time doings so. Perhaps if he tried telling the truth more often he's get used to it. :P
You may be correct Chris, but if it gets any worse for the WH bunch the Cons will began deserting the already sinking Trump yacht like vermin they are. I hope they stay onboard long enough to lose their congressional seats come 2018.
Well, i hope the ones who voted for him feel the pain. Because the rest of us will. My grandson is special needs. His teacher told me if title one is cut, he will fall through the cracks. All so peopke like trump and ryan dont have to pay taxes.Punks
lovemychris, fact- POTUS proposed $1 billion increase in Title I. Fact- All in Government including POTUS pay income taxes. You should not listen to all you hear, read and research on your own.Your Grandson will benefit if Trump's budget is passed.
@Sharon Stajda YEAH if she's childless, that's a pre-existing condition like rape or PTSD from being a war combat vet.
Im listening to people who work in education. Miss devos is a devote of private, christian schools.this is the "choice"who will get this money.this $ is a means to make title 1 "potable": moved from public schools to private. My grandson is in public
YD I assume you meant "devout" and "portable". This should be another Q. I sit on a council that approves expenditures of Gov. $ in public. Slight increase in fed. funding and decrease in State $. And we are dem. state. Susan Davis is awesome.
Im talking about betsy devos, new sec of ed. She is trying to dismantle public ed in favor of private, preferably christian schools. Its all part and parcel of bannon/mercerites. Deconstruct gvt so everything flows up. No care for anyone but me me me
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She'll probably throw both under the bus, Shyron. It's a known Trump genetic trait!
Randy, Who's "Oath," a WH staffer?& why will Trump be under her?Isn't he the top guy? & then someone is gonna throw them both under a bus?Whoa!(This is the only way Im including myself anymore)Don't try 2 stop me!! I have my rights!!
Oathie Sue Jones, Paula. you know DT likes to get kinky at times. You're pretty smart for a girl, you should know that about him! :P
I think they will all Crawl out from under the bus smelling like a rose, and throw us to the Russians.
I hope not, Shyron! I'm still pullin' for us Americans!
I'll put the question right back at you, Sharon. Doy ou ever consider you might be fed propaganda from your news sources? By the way, what news sources do you depend on, hopefully not Faux News as they are simply opinion people with few real reporter
Comey confirmed that there is positive proof of Russian interference with our election. Whether T colluded with them is still under investigation. Do you trust Putin's puppet?
Wow the new McCarthyism. How many lives will be ruined by this 21 century witch hunt and Inquisition. But talking and working with China is OK?
The China subject did not come up in this question. Do you have problems with focusing? And T will be the absolute worst president we have ever had. He has proven that in less than 4 months!
Austin you cut so to the quick with facts it is hard to keep up. You are extremely estute in making complicated matters simple and clear. Impressive for sure. What was I thinking suggesting how we treat another "enemy" could be a standard?
Would you rather Kushner get China to provide an encrypted phone line so Trump could make business deals with them without US intelligence agencies knowing about them, Eric?
Too late Randy. You have been so buggered over Russia the deals are done. Suckers.
Are you saying there won't be any penalty for Kushner, Eric? You still didn't answer my question about Flynn, Eric. Didn't you say there was nothing there? LOL!
Randy, Fact - We have no idea if Flynn will be charged with any crime? Same with Manifold or Kushner? You seem to get ahead of yourself? Coney denounced the Media coverage as much not holding truth. Why not wait to see what the investigation yield
The name is Manaford, not Manifold. Try paying attention to details.
You might not have an idea that Flynn will be charged, but then, you don't have an idea how things work in the government. Flynn has been caught representing a foreign power at the same time as holding the appointment as NSA. A crime no doubt!
Randy, go ahead and use CNN as your source. What evidence do you have that Flynn was an agent? Testimony will do but not talking heads opinions on either side. He is out for failing to disclose not for crimes other than misstating facts.
WTF r u talking about? There is no proof yet - that's why it's an investigation.(duh!) There is no stalemate. Your prediction is feckless. Manifold? WTF is that?
AND if leak were false then they aren't leaks. Study up on basic logic lady.
In an interview trump said he fired Comey because of the Russia thing! http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/12/politics/trump-comey... SIC in your eyes, did not reach your ears.
Austinstar and Randy are correct.
PTOSIS that is wrong as a matter of course. It is not like hunches and gut feeling on TV. And investigator must bring some proof to their boss that something is wrong in the Swamp. Then they either get funding or manpower or not based on evidence.
Mike, you are off my list as well. NO Facts, and a lot of hate here from the Anti Trump, anti America.
Well, we all know Trump lied about having tapes. Or he would tweet them out to prove himself. He is as honest as a used car salesman.
Yes. "You will find out shortly." huh? Whats the delay? "Ill gladly pay you thursday for a hamburger today". dufus.
What facts are you challenging Mike gave, Brad? And I see no facts in your comment, as a matter of fact. LOL!
peoplepower73 Please list an actual lie that Trump committed. It appears you may have derived your opinion from media innuendoes? It's unfortunate you have not actually been following some of the accomplishments Trump has made. Open your mind to fact
Sharon, Do you even have a TV which picks up anything but Fox News? Apparently not as Trump told hundreds of lies in his first hundred days in office. Do you remember him claiming his inauguration was attended by more people in history? Liar!
Randy Godwin , actually I read, due to not appreciating hacks push their narrative.... You actually consider the statement Trump made about a photo that was taken hours before his inauguration a serious lie? Do you read WAPOs fake news too?
Wow, sharon, do you mix up the koolaid for the Trump cult? You seem to have the recipe down pat.
Sharon Stajda: You say you like to read, well read this and have a great day reading about all of Trumps lies. Please read all seven pages.
Sharon, yes Trump lied about the inauguration attendees. This is a well proven fact and this one is only one of the hundreds of lies Trump has told so far. You need to read something other than your usual false news if you want to be taken seriously!
So funny that the picture to show attendance was taken 4 hours before the inauguration. But Randy is dull enough to by it without looking at a time stamp. Happy Randy happy dolt.
Do you even wonder what kind of person has to say "my inaugeration was the best ever....i won the popular vote...im so wonderful youve never met anyone like me". I mean, what the actual eff. Hes so self-centered, and so mean. Im embarrassed for usa.
So you're claiming Trumps boast was true, Eric? You have been brainwashed if you do! LOL!
Randy no doubt I have been brainwashed but not about this stuff. Mine is that crazy religion deal. I did some court work on criminal stuff way back, and I never met an innocent man. Guilty of something. Dig hard enough, all have skeletons.
Sorry Eric, I'll wager neither of us have as many skeletons in our closets than the Cheeto-In-Chief. He will go down as the most disgraceful president in American history. And you voted for the crook and feel good about it! Good for you! LOL!
Randy, would you expect him to not fight back to all of the negative media reports? The media has treated him horribly, and he just is not the kind of person to let it go. I am loving this. Change is sweet... Very tired of the status quo.
How do expect the media to treat him, Sharon? No other POTUS has lied so much or has so little knowledge of the way the office is run, nor will he listen to his advisors. The man is an arrogant buffoon.
Randy I just love your concept of do it the same way and be like every other politician. You are bad if you do not do like all the con men from Truman to now. But then we have Reagan. Hated by folk like you. But down comes the wall.
And in came the cocaine, if you remember the Iran Contra scandal. And Flynn didn't register as an agent for Turkey until after he was fired. In the meantime he managed to swing a super deal for Turkey after becoming NSA. Yeah, he's clean! LOL!
I guess you trumpites forget how he treats everybody else. He deserves everything negative said about him, and then some. You get what you give.
Brad, how dare you state that if anyone is anti trump they are anti America!!! You are welcome to worship Donald trump, but doing so does not make you more American than anyone else.
peoplepower73 You seem so sure that Trump has no tapes? Were you one that said he will never win? I will check back in to toss eggs at you. It's only fair.
Sharlee01: Winning an election and lying about tapes is a false equivalence. Nixon won an election, but he lied about his tapes. I hope he does have tapes, because if he does, they will incriminate Trump and prove Comey was telling the truth.
Hmmm, I was between a rock & a hard place once. Then I woke up & realized my 200# dog, "Rocky" had shoved me all the way to the wall on the other side of the bed. Damn Dog!
And Clinton was way more savvy then DT will ever be about the Govt workings, Eric. Muller will tear DT a new asshole before he's through with him. One of the former Republicans voting for Clinton's impeachment said this is way more serious for DT!
Marvelous Randy. As Sherlock would say "the game is afoot". Yes I expect Muller to tear into him like a rabid dog leaving no stone unturned. I look forward to it as I think Trump does. But if Muller finds nothing - what will you think then? Crooked M
Don't forget Eric, Muller will have free reign to ask DT anything, including any properties or dealings with the Russians. He'll have DT's tax returns by then and will also ask about Flynn's dealings and if DT was privy to Kurshners back channel try.
Randy my Governor was just in China making back channel moves because a state cannot enter into legally binding deals with a foreign sovereign. Revelations will be there but dealing with Russians is simply not illegal. No, there is a scope of investi
Hacking our system is. Helping them do it is treason. Stay tuned.
Cite one code section that says that is treason. Voter fraud yes. Criminal yes. But not treason. Hysteria muddles the mind. But Comey found no evidence of collusion. Yet you claim it? What do you know that Comey does not?
Interesting choice of word. Didnt you all call hillary hysyerical too? Age old misogyny. Alive and well. Grab em, then insult them. Then say, "who, me????". Lol. Patriarchy is meeellltttiiinnngggggg. Ding dong
So now it is a giant conspiracy of men against women? Hmm Pelosi vs Coulter or Feinstein and Warren? Victims? Really? HRC Victim? Ginsberg, victim?
Fox News talking points again, huh Eric? Yesterday's hearing was not about collusion. It was to get Comey's statement under oath on record so DT would open his mouth and claim Comey was lying. Comey played DT like a fine Stradivarius. LOL!
Randy I do not know where you get off on that. I spend more time on CNN than Fox and I listen to NPR and read Politico. Does using Fox as a slamming point help or make you smarter?
If you spend more time on CNN than Fox then you should know better than what you post here, Eric. Didn't you say Flynn wouldn't be charged? Still think that now?
Exactly so. This bunch is waging a war on women and on mother earth. And my biggest concern is for women who voted for him. So culturally brainwashed as to actually wear a shirt that says "trump can grab my *arrow pointing down*. Excuse me? WHAT?
Woah ! woah!, maybe this can be continued on the forum because there is a lot to be said here on both sides. IDK much but I do know the Dems ain't gonna push nothing until 2018 elections. I'm at the point that DJT is the squirrel
I'd love to continue this on the forums ptosis, but unfortunately for me, I'm banned till further notice. LOL! Nothing prophane, mostly arguing with a certain long gone mod. Jest sayin'.
Tell them randy! Maybe theyll listen to you. "Oh no, people only get banned cause they deserve it"...WRONG. and wrong is wrong. 1st amend matters...as much as their precious second. And they take it away, for personal vendettas. BOOOO
Randy I did not know it was mostly on Moderator. So are people not getting banned anymore for arguing their point? I think my lifetime achievement award of banning was in '14. More than 100 best answers but bannable in forums?
Yep, I'd argue with a certain mod asking questions about the payment structure and then a day or so later I'd get a forum ban for some petty post on the forums. Often with no explanation at all.
To all you Trump supporters out there: The enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge. You are all drinking the same Kool Aid as Trump. He has no tapes, but in his mind, he think he does. He lies, but in his mind, he think
I mulled this over and it seemed to stay that 1) your cannot be in support of something Trump is in support of and be rational. 2) Supporting the President of the United States is now somehow treason.
Hate and fear. Some kind of election PTSD thing.
Whats the whining about? When i didnt like bush, i wad told i hated america and hated the troops. Why is it you guys always act like such victims of the exact things you are guilty of!!! Cry me a gd river.
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Corroboration of facts that are not elements of the charge is irrelevant. It is hard to wrap your head around obstruct in this case because the CE has full control over what is investigated. We want elected officials making that call. Like military.
Yes, Jo, he has weaseled out of debates with Bernie, the IQ challenge with the mayor of London, paying people that work for him. He is excellent at weaseling out of things he promises to do too. Where's that wall? Is ISIS gone yet? Tired of winning?
Trump himself admitted he was under investigation for firing Comey this morning. So much for you and Brad questioning the veracity of the sources, Eric. If he fires Rosenstein for not getting rid of Mueller then you can turn out the lights on Dump!
Eric, I believe Mueller will corroborate Coney's testimony with the interviews of Coats, Rogers, and Ledgett. I think he very well may find evidence of obstruction; however, I doubt a Republican House would impeach--at least based on that alone.
Subpoenas are now out for Trump's tax returns and financial records with Russia. Trump and team have been ordered not to destoy any records that may pertain to ties with the Ruskies. It's about time.
Randy would you be so kind as to give a reference and same for you Austinstar? Because you say it and obviously just because it is reported by talking heads does not make it so.
Eric, Trump himself admitted he was now under investigation. Of course, you and I both know what a pathological liar he is. You like his style while I do not. Somehow dishonest people instill distrust in me, but then, his fans love his untruths.
Do you finally believe T is under investigation, Eric? Investigagions by the justice dept. Usually include subpoenas. Mueller and team sent out 7 subpoenas today and I'm sure many will follow. You believe T's talking head, but not others?
Subpoenas of one or 4 people does not mean investigation on another. It is like this; we suspect a crime. We must investigate what we think is a crime. Perhaps there is no crime. An act gets investigated not a person. A person is not a crime.
Huh? Guns don't kill people, ICBMs kill people. Makes just as much sense as your whole paragraph just made.
Eric you are a king! The King of Denial, that is. You didn't answer my question of "Do you think Donnie Boy is lying when he claims he's now under investigation"?
So will the republican congress. The same group who go after democrats baring fangs and claws are oh soft on little trumpflake.
You're a lot more insightful than many who live in this country, Hollie. It makes me ill for all of these otherwise intelligent people to be making excuses for the Buffoon In chief, and in the process, promulgating his obvious lies. More's the pity!
Isn't it cool that the American public voted in a majority to republicans and 2018 looks even more of the same. I think you should hate the man. Because he is ruining your way of thought. Or is that the American public that is? Food for thought.
Why do you always bring up hate? No one mentioned hate. Why dont you go on about trump hating democrats? His son says were not human. Why dont you chastise that? Do any of you have any integrity whatsoever? If so, i havent seen it. Party over country
I'm only a hater of ignorance, no matter the party, Eric. I do believe the 2018 elections will be greatly affected by the ignorance of DT.
Wisconsin recount:a machine they were working on flipped every clinton vote to trump. #unhackthevote. Read mike farb on twitter. We have been robbed. many times over. America is not a far right theocracy! Its been illegitimately taken. God, my azz.
There is one paradigm shift we have here today that is new to me. Political losers are now victims. It is a strange social notion. A ten year old playing soccer loses a match and today he can claim that he is a victim. Interesting.
If the scorekeeper adds points to a losing team, making them win, the loser is the victim. What has happened to 10 year olds? Nobody wants to have an honest match. Win at any cost, even cheating. This is cowardly and shows no quality of character.Imo
Wow what an amazing view of life. I hope you know that 90% of all check outs in the grocery store are wrong. And I hope you do not miss those silent black helicopters above your home.
Typical trumpite. Degrade those who dont bow to his teeny tiny feet. Pathetic, it is. Trumpites are the ones claiming deep state is out to get their savior. Helicopters are after them!
Sorry to say - regardless of affiliation you do seem to be playing the victim of conspiracy card. I hope you do understand that the whole notion of collusion is exactly a conspiracy theory right or wrong. Conspiracy would be the crime.
Eric, do you want the investigation into the Russians meddling in our elections to be carried out to its conclusion? Or do you want it stopped because you believe it's simply a with hunt? Do you want fair elections or just for your candidate to win?
I don't like Gov. Innocent during investigation. Innocent when charged. Guilt must be proven. And a jury must decide. I still don't think Clinton was guilty of perjury. A witch hunt like here.
Yes, I saw of those groups, Lela. I'm glad I can't deny the truth I see with my own eyes, unlike those brainwashed DT fans. "Idiocracy" the movie made me uneasy when I realized it wasn't simply a futuristic comedy. It's really happening!
Idiocracy us what our government has become. With a baby man in charge. Yep, he is really new at this! Hahaha to Ryan for coming up with that excuse.
Hes been buying politicians for decades...buying his way out of breaking the law....hes not new at all. Hes corrupt to the core.
I have to say this, It clearly appears not many in this conversation have any reality of what is being accomplished By T. Most are steeped in believing innuendo, not actually willing to accept anything that does not fit their hysteria agenda?
All the Donald has done is create chaos from day one, Sharon. So many lies....
Theres that word hysterical again...i might have to look up the history of using that as a smear...it began being used against women who didnt like being oppressed, right? "Oh, shes just hysterical". Like hell. Stand up and fight this coup!
Again, you only pay attention to the label of "leaker". She Leaked PROOF of Russian involvement in our country's election. She blows the whistle on Republicans and you can't handle that. The whole country is losing!
Well Brad, it just breaks my damn heart not to be on your list. LOLOL!! Don't worry though, you're still on my S list! :P
We have laws, and this woman is not above them. She took an oath, and had legal channels if she felt there was wrongdoing. She wanted 5 minutes and he got it. Unfortunately it was not worth it.
Very correct and well said, Sharon.
She? Did I miss something here?
And yet....trump leaks classified intel to lavrov and kislyak, and its ok cause hes the president? Not in my book. Republicans cheered wikileaks, consider snowden a hero..why do you now bash winner??? Partisan patriotism.
YD you are really lacking in reading of law. Read it and weep. The POTUS can not by the very nature of the office leak or be held to classified status. Do you totally not get CAC (commander and chief) Trump is the elected POTUS. Weep.
I dont care who he is. If he aids and abets the enemy, get him the hell out!
Trump is so ignorant in the ways of political law and rules of conduct because he's never had to adhere to ethics and morality in his business life. He isn't a reader and refuses to learn the boundaries of his power. He seems to believe he's a tyrant
That is your opinion Randy and I respect that. We have to start trying to be more clear of what we say is fact and what we say we believe. Just now the NYT and the LAT disagree on facts of admissions. Good opines but not facts.
Fact: trump says he has nothing to do w russia...no business ties, never met putin. Lies. Fact: trump said he would release his tax returns if he won. Lie.Just cause its not in front of congress,its ok to lie? Sessions lied to congress:A lying ag!