Today the Washington Post revealed--through 5 separate sources--Bob Mueller is officially investigating Trump for Obstruction of Justice. The last two Senate interviews with Trumps's cabinet members had them try a cute trick of not answering important questions despite not claiming Executive Privilege. Even though Trump knew they were going to be questioned, he didn't claim EP because they'd agreed to stall the investigation. Now Mueller can demand answers despite any claim of EP, as well as, go through DT's taxes with a fine toothed comb. What say you Trump defenders and protagonists?
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Don't think you ought to wait until he is actually being investigated. What prompted this was the untrue assertion that he was under investigation. But even CNN corrected that and said "may be investigated". Sounds like lynch mob mentality.
Hes been under investigation since july....longer by preet bharara...you think people dont know about him, they do. Only his fans fail to see. Tax returns....his deathknell.
When a news agency says "may" it's for legal purpose so they don't get in trouble with slander or libal laws. It's one of those safeguards.
So CNN is lying and Mueller not saying it means it exists.
What investigation since July, Comey testified to no investigation?
Is this the twilight zone???? Dont you remember when chaffetts tweeted the comey letter, and we found out that trump had been under investigation,too? Comey was asked by dems why he didnt leak trumps investigation, and he said because it was ongoing.
No.I don't know how you came to that conclusion. What i stated is a common practice in journalism. In fact many college programs stress this. That way they're not stating guilt or innovenue until it's proven.being investigated doesn't mean conviction
Thank you for that explanation Dean. I see your point.And I appreciate your position on the matter. I suppose I am just concerned that we don't go after a man because we don't like him rather than for a crime.
That is really cute. Does anyone really believe that constituents have a smidgen of influence in these current investigatory matters. Maybe party funding models and maybe lobbyists - but you? Lawyers are far more influential here.
You are wrong. If not for the outcry from we the people, acha would already be in place, and trump would have removed Russia's sanctions and given putin his payback. CALL YOUR REPS. THEY WORK FOR YOU
That is even more adorable. Reps work for us? Susan Davis does not work for me, she works for my district. Really they have 500,000 bosses? I have voted for her for 20 years, I go to her townhalls (6/19 is next) I have worked for her- volunteer.
If she gets 500,000 phone calls, shell take notice. How you think howard stern and bill oreilly got off the air? People calling, contacting advertisers. Squeaky wheel gets the oil. Altho with citizens united, its a lot harder for regular people.
All the sensational allegations and representations coming out of those to sources is scary. There simply is no official investigation about obstruction at all. Make up fake news.
Interesting Ralph as Sessions used it to recuse. Mueller hid it from his boss. His employer is Trump. He has to immediately report the conflict to his supervisor. But we note that Mueller has not stated that obstruction is an investigation so no need
I was looking for any confirmation out of Mueller's office.None. CNN headline "may" investigate. 5 anonymous sources. Can't find a single 18 USC section that covers Chief Executive telling subordinates what to do. Not even for self interest.Fake?
Right back atcha Mike, if you're not ashamed to be a Trump voter you will be. Or probably you'll still blame everything on the left as usual and not take any responsibility for electing the Buffoon-In-Chief.
Randy, it that all you have? "back atcha?" Wow! It's not worth it to have a intellectual battle with a liberal. It's obvious, none of you have any weapons. I'm sure this confuses you. Just ask a conservative to explain it.
Mike, so now you don't like to be called what you project on the left? Typical Con, you can dish it out but.... You're not a seer so your predictions are simply wishful thinking. Intellectual conversation with you? Get real...
Randy not one of these huge revelation investigations has panned out one little bit. Same media sources, leaking "Trump under investigation". Isn't this like the 4th time and all were fake per Comey?
Eric, are you saying Flynn will get away Scot free with his getting paid by the Russians when he was still on the military payroll? This is still panning out and so is the collusion investigation.You guys seem to think the investigations have stopped
Oh,i think russia is peanuts to them now. They all know he did it. All the ic people know it. But now they're getting serious.His financial dealings are big time criminal.Talking RICO. He really was a fool to think hed get away with it. Putins puppet
Probably Randy. He simply did not meet the requirement threshold for registering as an agent. FARA is the act. It needs to be for the gov.
And the exclusion of the "unmasked" stuff as illegally obtained will prevent prosecution.
Eric, do you have some proof of the "illegal unmasking"? If so, you need to get in touch with Bob Mueller because he's also interested in those claims. With your inside information you could solve the whole investigation. Unless it's just your BS.
mike, name one thing that Hillary did to be persecuted I mean prosecuted for.
I don't think trump will be prosecuted, he has enough money to buy souls and too many people have already sold their soul to him.
"Vladimir putin ordered the attack on the us election, plain and simple"--jeh johnson.
Another liar,huh?Or another stupider than trumpites,huh? Sec of hs,but still not as smart as youze.And trump praises putin.Huh,what do you call that? (Starts w t)
Are we all children? Not noticing nuance? No side being taken here. But isn't the American public kind of tired of "truth be spoken here" when when for everyone it is lies. You lie and I lie and the wind blows. Who cares?
Eric, do you honestly believe Donnie is an honest boy? If so, I can understand why you defend him so stalwartly. I suppose we both see truth through different eyes as well as different values.
I care that putin hacked our election! You gop dont,cause your side profitted from it... bigly! But its beyond infuriating that you dont care. Or, you believe putin over our own intel agencies. Either way, its hard to stomache.
I know what you mean, Chris. The real patriots will make themselves known before long. The greedy politicians will be apparent as well. There's always good that comes from disaster, and this will be no different.
Criminal investigation. Financial dealings. "Follow the money"....this will end him. Hed do best to step down, and take pence, sessions, nunes, ryan and mcconnell with him. Lets see if he has a brain in his head. Ego vs self-preservation.Which wins??
Are you guys talking section 1510 - Obstruction?
I just can't find a code section regarding obstruction that fits this case.
He fired everyone who was investigating him. Obstruction. Cause hes big man donald, and he can. Has lied about all his russia ties. Some are saying he paid the hackers and the fsb. If he stops mueller, whats that say? If hes innocent, why obstruct?
So now I think I understand. We are using the word obstruct in the common banter about sense. We are not talking about any crime. Since there is no code section that makes what he did a crime. Am I right on that.
Its a crime to obstruc an investigation is it not?Thats what hes doing.And its a crime to lie under oath?Sessions did.And if a common person stonewalled and refused to answer questions,like coates and friend,theyd be in contempt.No 1 is above the law
Chris, obstruct the way you are using it is not a crime. A legal definition of obstruct is far more restrictive in it's notions. It is not obstruction for instance, not to answer question and refuse to give evidence. It is not obstruction to be boss.
If boss is accused of something and then proceeds to remove all people trying to find out if its true,said boss is guilty of obstructing justice.This particular boss works for 300 million people..250 mil of which are not happy w him.proceed w it.
Chris you simply have not read the relevant code sections. The law decides what is obstruction not your concept of a loose use of the word. 18 USC and then look up the right code section. Not stopping the investigation - kind of clears anyone.
Well, ill leave it to mueller to decide. I assume he knows more than those of us here. In fact, i can guarentee it.
When the truth comes out, a lot of republicans are going down with him, because they knew. And they profitted. The feds are looking at his techie now. Word on twitter is he and jared worked with russia on the anti-hillary bots that ran the internet.
LOL, you mean the polls they keep getting caught "tweaking" or pre-loading the questions to guarantee the outcome?
Are you speaking of Fox News Polls? Yes, we already knew they were fake. Thanks anyway!
Hahahahahah, no I meant like the ones that had Hillary winning the election with a strong approval rating
Those polls were right. Republicans stole this election,as they have done many times before.And this time, they colluded with a foreign enemy.Dont for one second think people dont know.but the power must be broken.its quite a stranglehold of rw money
hahahahahaha OMG, lovemychris said "Republicans stole this election"
There is not enough room for the amount of lol's I want to write here.
Angel what do you think about Georgia? Was that election also stolen? Or just maybe, just maybe most people are thinking republican?
Eric I think all the special house elections thud far show there is an energized Democrat base. All these districts were republican and the end result while a loss was competitive.
Yes, and in 2010, republicans redistricted, so they will control the house for the next decade. 8% approve mcconnell healthplan. We dont want women put to death for abortion, Expanded wars, expanded droning, tax cuts for rich. No way. Cheaters win.
Souls sold to the highest bidder.
Money makes the world go round. Putin tricked and is out playing Trump in this game of chess. Time to get another frontman and player.
Angel, so for dems losing is not losing?
doesn't it kind of suggest that no matter how loud and rude anti-Tumpers are it does not change the fact that your neighbors vote for his agenda?
Is all the "obstruction" really the left?
Yes they were all losses but the difference in result was over a 10% democrat gain in votes. It shows to me that in republican districts it got competitive so I would like to see elections in swing districts :)
From one who has had personal experience with DT, your opinion is very important, CP. Fortunately for me, I saw him for what he was many years before he decided to run for POTUS. Down here in the south he'd be called a "Snake oil salesman."
Castle you just have to tell us what it was; "From doing a job for Trump." What kind of job was it and did you actually meet Trump.
Eric, Castle has discussed this at length on the forums. He'll probably enlighten you anyway though.
Google what bloomberg has to say about him. As ewent said, anyone in the tri state area knows all about donald.
Built a sandcastles For Trump world Castle. Not
a big thing to have Trumps put his name on yoursandcastle.
When he plays King of the castle & unionized my sand artist
That is like herding cats and he is the orange fascist cat
Lucky, Trump didn’
Oh now I see. Sand Castle builder - good for you.
Didn't shooter use phrases like this on his FB? "orange fascist cat".
The shooter. Can we talk about the stabber? Or is it not important, cause he killed a black man and was a trump supporter? Wonder what he called the young man before he killed him? Care to guess???
Do you have a website with your sandcastles or other art? I'd love to see your work.
Me too! I just don't see Trump as a magnanimous patron of the arts. But now that you mention it, I bet he is. I am from coastal SoCal we love sand art.
It seem me and famous black men get into hot water from some of these kind of Mobsters. Been into process of moving to south America. Because this manbaby is screwing around with nuclear toys.
Icontinue building eco villages, for they will be in de
Key word: mobster. I am now beginning to wonder if the feds deliberately let him win so their case against him would amount to treason against the usa. People knew about russian hacking long long time. Mcconnell refused to do anything.Ryan paid off.
Trump reminds me of Biff on back to the future 2&3. He has been controled by Rockefellers and Rothschild as Trump is in a game over his head. Good thing he can't hire me again because his Casinos went bankrupt. They would not make acomplete famil
Are any of you aware that no formal charges are looked after? The entire premise here is wrong, and so wrong. It never happened. Are you insane?
It didnt happen in right wing world, because you refuse to consider it. Just like rww insist hillary is a crook. Newsflash: a whole lot of people do not live in rightwing world. Start where ap began: ever hear of felix sater? Google is your friend.
Anti-Trump did not work in Georgia.
It worked for 3 million more americans than anti hillary.We are ruled by the former slave states and their white male supremacy rules,thanks to an azzkiss from the past. First female repub from georgia to win. The future is female, bigoted or not.