Which element allow us to believe that Foley was beheaded?

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   maxoxam41posted 10 years ago

   The September 11 event led to our outrage and invasion of Iraq. In what way the beheading of Foley is true versus another false flag operation? Who can assure me that it wasn't a fictitious scene to anger me? Since the Tonkin event that plunged the US in the desired Vietnam war? Who can assure me that the leaking of the video won't distract me from the expropriation of miles of Cisjordan territory by Israhell or our involvement in bombing Iraq etc...? Your opinions?

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      Writer Foxposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      The U.K Prime Minister David Cameron said the video is true in a speech he delivered on August 29:
      
      "We've all be shocked and sickened by the barbaric murder of American journalist James Foley [publically beheaded and the video of his killing shown on the Internet] and by the voice of what increasingly seems to have been a British terrorist recorded on that video. It was clear evidence – not that any more was needed – that this is not some foreign conflict, thousands of miles from home, that we can hope to ignore.  The ambition to create an extremist caliphate in the heart of Iraq and Syria is a threat to our own security here in the U.K.
      
      "… The root cause of this threat to our security is quite clear. It is a poisonous ideology of Islamist extremism that is condemned by all faiths and by all faith leaders. It believes in using the most brutal forms of terrorism to force people to accept a warped world view and to live in an almost medieval state. A state in which its own citizens would suffer unimaginable brutality, including barbaric beheadings of those who refuse to convert to their warped version of Islam; the enslavement and raping of women; and the widespread slaughter of Muslims by fellow Muslims. And, of course, the exporting of terrorism abroad.
      
      "… Islamist extremism is a poisonous political ideology supported by a minority. These extremists, often funded by fanatics living comfortably far away from the battlefields, pervert the Islamic faith as a way of justifying their warped and barbaric ideology."
      
      And as to your comment on Israel taking land from Jordan, you are mistaken.  Jordan relinquished all control of land it stole from Israel.  See this map:
      
      
      
      Then Britain decided all land east of the Jordan river would be for Jewish settlement:
      
      
      The land was given to Israel when the British Mandate ended. Jordan, you see, had stolen it from Israel in 1967.  Then, Jordan gave it back.  Nice country.  Israel forgave Jordan, they kissed and made up, and Israel protects Jordan to this day.  Too bad ISIL wants to overthrow the monarchy in Jordan and kill more Arabs.

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         maxoxam41posted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Powell said that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and many believed it. Did it mean that it was true? Now, we now that he lied. Now, what is the likelihood for our governments to lie to us for the elite's interests? We know that governments don't work for the people, now that you know for a fact that they lie, why would you give them credibility?
         Recently they asserted that Bin Laden was killed in Pakistan by US special forces whereas he died from kidney failure. Another proof, every year to solve the crisis they propose drastic measures where the people are bled, are we prospering as a result of the policies applied? Obviously not. What else do YOU need?

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            wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Who provided proof to Powell that there were WMD's?  Who provided proof to Powell that there were NO WMD's?  And what proof can you show as to which Powell believed?  Or are you making statements again that you cannot backup (Powell lied)?
            
            And what in the world does what Powell believed about WMD's have to do with a video of a beheading, anyway?

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               Writer Foxposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               

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                  maxoxam41posted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  What about that the mainstream media is lying to us, since your reasoning process seems to be slow?

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               maxoxam41posted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Plame affair and Joseph C. Wilson' s famous "What I didn't find in Africa". Another lie or the reality that you can't bear. I don't have to prove anything it is factual.

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                  wildernessposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  Max, you never seem to understand the difference between your propaganda lies and truth.  You can't provide proof because it isn't there, so you will make it up to suit your agenda.  OK - we all get that after months of your spin, but we all realize it for what it is, too.  Utter nonsense springing forth from an apparently bottomless well of hate for Western civilization in general and American/Americans in general. 
                  
                  Until you can (and will) provide proof of your wild claims they aren't worth the time to type then.

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                     maxoxam41posted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     Which civilization does America have? The killing of millions of native Indians (the real holocaust), eugenic policy against poverty, flagrant slavery and racism towards their African community and other minorities, paedophilia reinforced judging the poor policy guaranteeing children's protection, open prostitution in Vegas, domestic and international terrorism, ... Shall I continue or stop right there? Are they lies, still?
                     I'm the product of Western "civilizations"!

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         John Holdenposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         You believe anything that Cameron says!
         No wonder the country is going to the dogs.

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            maxoxam41posted 10 years agoin reply to this

            And the alike have the numeric majority and vote!

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   Writer Foxposted 10 years ago

   One more beheading and another on the way by the barbarians:
   http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article … alist.html

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      maxoxam41posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      It is interesting that the "beheading" of one "American" man catches so much attention whereas thousands REALLY died under the same circumstance and we were not much concerned, were we? So if you want me to cry for a man staging his death, sorry I can't do that, it would mean that I'm part of the naïve believers. For me it's just propaganda to have an agenda move quicker. Confer Israel, didn't it make false allegations concerning the deaths of 3 teenagers that led to the killing of a thousand of Palestinians, the bombing of their habitations, the appropriation of a juicy part of Cisjordania? What's the difference?

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         Writer Foxposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         No, they were not false allegations. The barbaric Hamas officials confessed to be the murders:
         http://www.newsweek.com/senior-hamas-of … ers-266070
         
         Here's the video:
         http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/ … ing-murder

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            maxoxam41posted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Hamas is a resistant movement. The Fatah is the US wrhoe. It does explain the dissenssions in the Palestinian nation. Divide to conquer. And who benefits from the tension? Israhell.

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   psycheskinnerposted 10 years ago

   Even if you think everyone lies, they need to have a reason to lie--especially in an international public/private/military conspiracy of unprecedented proportions. 
   
   Sometimes something is what it appears to be.  These people's families will never see them again.

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      maxoxam41posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      And which rational and justifiable reason is it? The thickness of their wallet?

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   Writer Foxposted 10 years ago

   American journalist Steven Sotloff was also beheaded.  These statements were made today:
   
   "The world has awoken this morning to another televised decapitation.  This just demonstrates that we are dealing with pure evil.  This is a hideous movement that not only does evil, it revels in evil. It exalts in evil." – Tony Abbott, Prime Minister of Australia
   
   "Whatever these murderers think they will achieve by killing innocent Americans like Steven, they have already failed. They failed because Americans, like people all over the world, are repulsed by their barbarism. Their horrific acts only unite us and stiffen us to take the fight against these terrorists." – U.S. President Obama in press conference today
   
   "I think a military solution is being developed and needs to be developed. I don't see that there is any negotiating with these people.  I don't see that there's anything that can be done with them diplomatically." – Former U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Christopher Hill, who served as ambassador to Iraq from 2009-2010
   
   "We cannot find proper words to express the horror we feel at this gruesome killing. We Muslims cannot find ways even to express the way we feel about this criminal group called ISIS." – Leaders of the American Muslim community
   http://www.abna.ir/english/service/amer … story.html

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      maxoxam41posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Like those navy seals killed few months ago... What are they doing anywhere in the world beside destabilizing elected governments? Now, given that mercenaries are from the navy seals, ex-military (confer Blackwater...) what does guarantee me that they are not involved in those countries to benefit their agenda and governments'? Since sept 11 Blackwater is making billions, has its own private army, armaments, training sites... Everybody can dress with a sheet and pretend to be a djihadist giving the opportunity to Cameron and Obama to move their pawns in the middle east.
      What you say doesn't make sense. The London bombing, for instance, an MI6 agent revealed that it was a covert operation and you are telling me that you believe Cameron like everybody in the US believed that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction... And I am the idiot, I am the one that has to prove the basis of my argumentation? No, I don't have to prove it. It's all over. I am not a sheep, I won't follow, feel free to do it.
      The real journalists that are killed are the ones that open their mouths on our own soil.

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         retief2000posted 10 years agoin reply to this

         You are wrong about WMDs, as is everyone who ever bought the manure the Leftist Press and the destructive Democrats have been pedaling for a decade. Iraq was in clear violation of the terms of the cease fire that ended the Gulf War - there was no peace treaty, those niceties are reserved for other than monstrous tyrants and psychopaths.
         
         http://www.inquisitr.com/1309825/isis-i … was-right/

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