Trump: "We cannot allow the cure to be worse than the problem itself"

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   Randy Godwinposted 4 years ago

   Donald is getting antsy and suggesting 15 days of self-quarantine is enough. So far he's been completely wrong about the pandemic, but he's so worried about his personal numbers re the economy and the stock market, he's apparently lost all sense of duty to his constituents.
   
   Even his head guy--Dr. Fauci--is worried about being fired for disagreeing with him.
   
   Imagine a World War with this POTUS in charge. Brrrrr.

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      IslandBitesposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      Also,
      
      Surgeon General Jerome Adams on Monday reiterated an urgent call for Americans to follow recommendations to stay at home in order to mitigate the spread of the coronavirus.
      
      “I want America to understand this week it's going to get bad... We really, really need everyone to stay at home.” Adams said Monday in an appearance on NBC’s 'Today.'

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      MizBejabbersposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      
      This photo is from NBC News. I didn't see Dr. Fauci at the press briefing today, but maybe I didn't watch long enough. Friday, when Trump referred to the "Deep State Department", Dr. Fauci appeared to laugh and cover his face. I'm sure Dr. Fauci is worried, but enough is enough. Even the foremost expert on the COVID-19 virus can only take so much.
      
      As Trump wants to loosen controls on the population and let everybody out again to expose each other, China has announced that its infection rate is increasing again after that country sent people back to work. "Nuff said.

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         Randy Godwinposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         Trump is only worried about himself, Doris. We all ought to know this at this point in time. Aren't you glad we're not in a world war at this time?

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            MizBejabbersposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            OMG yes, Randy! No war, please. If I were a fundamentalist, I might believe that God sent this virus to get our minds (and China, North Korea, Iran, et al) off war.
            Tonight, former acting Secretary of the Dept. of Homeland Security, Kevin McAleenan, called Dr. Fauci "a National Treasurer" amid fears that he may have been deliberately kept from appearing at today's press conferences. CNN's Don Lemon and Chris Cuomo both said that Dr. Fauci hadn't appeared "on the podium with Trump in the last two days." McAleenan said that Dr. Fauci had other duties that may be preventing him from taking part in press conferences. He said Dr. Fauci is too valuable to be politicized. Let's keep our fingers crossed.
            I just have this feeling that Dr. Birx may be too afraid of her job to always give it to us straight. I could be wrong, but she isn't as outspoken as the good doctor is.

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      Stevennix2001posted 4 years agoin reply to this

      At this point, I'm more worried about this epidemic getting worse, and if this shut down gets even more severe like it has in other countries then I do think that crime going up could become a possibility as well; especially if it gets to the point that the government shuts down.  Oh boy.  There will be a lot of rioting in the streets if that happens. That's what im more worried about.

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   hard sunposted 4 years ago

   Coronavirus pandemic: We were caught unprepared. It is too late for shutdowns to save us:
   https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/ … 898324001/
   
   This is from a physician basically stating that it is too late for shutdowns to do much good. That we should keep shutdowns short, concentrate on beefing up our healthcare system, and accept that many Americans will die because it's already inevitable that the hospitals will be overrun?
   
   I don't know what's the best route at this point. I know I have zero confidence in Trump for good reason, but just maybe he is listening to some experts who are saying things similar to this?

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      GA Andersonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

      I think you are right hard sun, none of us know what the best route is.
      
      I agree that we can't just keep our nation locked-down until the virus runs its course, but we also can't just go back to normal and enhance the virus' effects.
      
      GA

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         hard sunposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         "but we also can't just go back to normal and enhance the virus' effects."
         
         I agree this much is clear. I mean, things like dine-in restaurants may reasonably be gone for awhile. And, even if things are opened up again, it needs to happen slowly with the tenants of social distancing playing a central role. Much of that would just depend on everyday Americans making wise decisions.
         
         Once again, I'm not sure if opening anything back up in a couple weeks is a good idea, but this article made me think. Our area schools are not going back until at least May first at this point. It does seem the consequences of 18 month lockdown, no school, etc., would likely be too much for America's long term future when we look at the severity of the virus as it currently is. That long without kids going to school alone would have drastic effects as the article points out.

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            MizBejabbersposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            The only real detriment that I see to kids being out of school is that parents use schools for child care, and some depend on schools to provide their kids' meals. That does mean extra work for the parent. So much of the school work is done by computer anyway. My state provides computers for kids who can't afford them and internet for about $10 or less a month, so there's no real excuse for children not to learn online. Even SNAP provides cell phones to recipients. If push comes to shove, I can see children being provided free internet for school. That is, unless parents don't crack down on the unwilling and make them attend online school, or some parents are despicable enough to sell or pawn their kid's computer for drug money.

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               hard sunposted 4 years agoin reply to this

               I agree for the most part. Many families around here get Internet from Comcast for $10 a month, and I see that Comcast is now offering that program free for 60 days to new customers.
               
               I'm just a little old school when it comes to education. I don't think they get quite the same experience from home, especially those kids who have "despicable" parents as you say. I feel horrible for those kids as we know they have very little chance of growing up to be anything but like their parents. And, we all miss out when kids don't live up to their potential.

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                  gmwilliamsposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                  +1000000000000000.  There are parents who aren't fit to be parents.   Only a small percentage of people are deemed to be parent material.  Parenting requires patience, sacrifice, & maturity which many people unfortunately do not possess.  Parenthood is a commitment & many people approach parenthood willy nilly instead of seriously.   
                  
                  Many people view parenthood as an exercise of authority & control.  They use parenthood as a method of bullying their children.  They view their children as objects instead of individuals to be nurtured to their fullest potential.  Most people sadly aren't parent material & children suffer for this.  Unfortunately, there isn't a test & license for parenthood!

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         Ken Burgessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

         Consider what happens if we DON'T go back to normal.
         
         How many businesses close, for good?
         
         How many people lose their jobs, for good?
         
         How many additional millions become homeless?
         
         How many people suffer violence as they are attacked at the bank ATM, the Grocery Store, in their homes for food & money?
         
         How long before society itself starts to unravel?
         
         There are TWO choices... and ONLY two choices.
         
         Prolonged "isolation" which has to be enforced by Martial Law and full Military and Police deployment on the streets in every major population center.
         
         Or going back to 'normal' and opening businesses up, and having people go back to their normal routines.  With some obvious common sense differences to protect health.

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            Randy Godwinposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            You need to volunteer for the virus vaccine test then, Ken. We'd all be very grateful to you.

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               Ken Burgessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

               I'll leave that for courageous individuals like yourself Randy.
               
               Putting yourself out there on the front lines and making an impact in the world.  I wouldn't want to deny you the ability to do so again.

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                  Randy Godwinposted 4 years agoin reply to this

                  As soon as the zombie attack is over I'll do that, Ken.

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            GA Andersonposted 4 years agoin reply to this

            You are right Ken. An all-or-nothing, or one-size-fits-all plan is not going to work. New York may need, (right now), a total lockdown, but does Montanna?
            
            I am hearing frequent stories from small business owners, primarily service industries, like restaurants, that won't be able to survive a prolonged lockdown—even with the emergency assistance being planned.
            
            I have also seen the Italian clips of Italian officials walking the street shooing individuals—not groups—back inside and criticizing them for being so stupid. I think those officials' reactions are what is mistaken.
            
            GA

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               wildernessposted 4 years agoin reply to this

               Seems to me that we have to find a balance between acceptable for the number of sick and dead and keeping the economy and society in a position from which it can recover without causing even more deaths and misery.
               
               Putting our total priority onto either side of that delicate edge is a sure fire road to doom.

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