Former White House Strategist Steve Bannon suggested that it might be appropriate for Dr. Anthony Fauci and FBI Director Christopher Wray to be beheaded as an example for other federal bureaucrats to get with the program and get in line.
Bannon expressed an interest in having their heads on pikes outside the White House.
Do you feel Bannon is correct? Should both Fauci and Wray be beheaded? Should their heads be on pikes. Has their service to the country been so bad and devious that they deserve death or jail?
My, my, I expect to hear from all you righties who blew a gasket over Kathy Griffin, who is merely an entertainer. Steve Bannon was one of Trump's first appointees to work in the White House, so I consider his remarks to be much more influential than a bit by a comedian.
Of course, they will either remain silent or find a way to say it's not the same or not as bad. We'll see.
Hmm . . . my first thought is, is this really how you want to present this—as a serious thought?
If I could be sure you were not able to recognize hyperbole I would offer a serious response. But, I think you do know the difference, so I will just question your sincerity.
Though it's not nice to suggest beheading--cough cough-- :::examines backs of fingers and fingernails:::
Hrmm, can't remember what I was going to say
Trump campaign lawyer Joseph diGenova said Monday that Christopher Krebs — a former federal cybersecurity official fired for doubting President Trump’s voter fraud myths — should be “taken out at dawn and shot,” a shocking insinuation by a member of the president’s legal team.
“Anybody who thinks the election went well,” he said, “like that idiot Krebs who used to be the head of cybersecurity, that guy is a class A moron. He should be drawn and quartered. Taken out at dawn and shot.”
I can't be sure but I'm pretty sure Steve Bannon has substance abuse issues. I'd say it's time for him to seek help.
I've always thought it was pretty obvious he is an alcoholic, but that is beside the point. Perhaps more noteworthy is the fact that he's under indictment for taking millions of dollars out of a fund meant to build the wall, thereby swindling the very people he seems to be riling up.
“I have federal agents that protect me. So they drive me to work, they stay here, they make sure that nobody tries to break in [to my home] and, as Steve Bannon would like, have somebody behead me,” Fauci said. “I don’t socialize. It’s my wife and I and the federal agents. We’ve sort of become like a new family unit.”
The good news is that President Elect Biden has earnestly asked Dr. Biden to stay on giving him assurances that his background and expertise will not be scoffed at now that the "stable genius" have moved on with his circus to the next town.
I find it strange that all the Republicans on other threads have managed to ignore this one.
Probably not that strange.
1. Do they support the beheading of Fauci?
2. Do they support a declaration of martial law to overturn the election?
3. Do they question the people who say these sorts of things?
If you consider that the answer to the last question is "no", then the answers to the other two become easier to figure. Whether they agree out loud, they clearly agree through quiet.
Or . . . the quiet is the answer to a ridiculous consideration.
1) Do you think anyone agrees with literal beheading.?
2) How much support have you found for that "martial law" scenario?
3)Of course I question the people that say those things. Don't you?
You're almost always a voice of rationality and I hope most non-liberals are really like you.
However, the quiet on this subject indicates a certain acceptance much like the quiet of Trump's fraud claim indicates a certain acceptance much like the quiet of his birther conspiracy claims indicates a certain acceptance.
As for the martial law thing, again, there's very little opposition to the notion and it's downright scary that we have one former official and one currently nominated government official making these suggestions.
However, I will admit that liberals have this tendency to grab onto ideas and push them to their logical conclusion and then fret over the possibility that they may actually happen.
GA -- I felt the same way. Just not sure of the purpose of these questions. Were they asked to cause an effect on the reader? What could questions like these elicit in a rational being?
I will go no further, I am propped on a fence...LOL, but boy would I love to.
Steve Bannon is a leader of the right-wing and supporter of Trump and former government official. He called for Fauci to be beheaded.
General Flynn and another U.S. official have called for martial law and to overthrow the government, essentially.
One of Trump's lawyers called for the former cybersecurity chief, Christopher Krebs, to be taken out at dawn and shot.
The questions are simple. These are Trump's people. Wondering if Trump supporters like it.
You won't get a straight answer. They won't say they support it but they will do their best to.minimize it, pretending it's not that big of a deal. I seem to recall multiple threads about the comedian Kathy Griffin's "joke " showing a beheaded Trump. There was a ton of outrage and angst over that. Quite the contrast.
Biden is handling this nonsense right, though, by totally ignoring it. The Trump crime syndicate is on its way out. If the media is smart, the second Trump is no longer president, they will completely ignore him and his ilk. Treat the childish media whore as irrelevant because, given his total inability to offer anything positive or helpful via his mouth or his Twitter feed, he will be.
AND? Once again not sure of your point. I need no education on who said what on Twitter or media blurbs. I see the same stuff you do...
I was simply agreeing with GA.
My gosh --- yes Bannon made those statements. What the hell would you think your questions were appropriate? Who do you think would feel those mentioned should be beheaded or jailed for a statement? Sorry, I agreed with GA's sentiment. And not sure how Flynn became part of this thread. I will be honest I have not followed this thread closely due to the questions being so bazaar.
"Do you feel Bannon is correct? Should both Fauci and Wray be beheaded? Should their heads be on pikes? Has their service to the country been so bad and devious that they deserve death or jail?"
"The questions are simple. These are Trump's people. Wondering if Trump supporters like it."
My God this is insulting... I would think if you think so little of some that post here you would not invite any form of conversation.
These are Republicans saying this stuff, so I'm asking if it's acceptable.
Is it really so far from Trump's attacks on other Republicans in Georgia, which is causing those Republicans to beg for it to stop because people are threatening their lives?
Gov. Kemp, his Sec. of State, who are all Republicans and all testify their election was run well and fairly and there is no fraud. But Trump attacks them and now their lives are in danger.
How far is that from Trump calling for them to be beheaded? He just wants other people to do it. Trump provides the match.
Sometimes the silliness deserves to be ignored.
Quoting Steve Bannon as an authoritative voice is one of those times.
Maybe not to you, but for a lot of people, he is. The same people that believe there was a conspiracy (between, Democrats, Republicans, Media, Judges, FBI, DOJ, China, Spain and Venezuela) to stole the election. And that the Clintons are killers and Tom Hanks is a pedophile, and so on. Many of those people have threaten Dr. Fauci. So I dont think is silly. And Im sure Dr. Fauci is not laughing about it.
And yes, crankalicious is making a point. After all, he was part of the Trump adm.
We have had 'Steve Bannon', (as a metaphor), supporters throughout human history. And we always will have. Our duty to ourselves is to determine which are idiots, which are users, and which are just misinformed.
Okay....and is there a benefit or purpose to figuring out which are users, which are idiots, and which are uninformed?
And....do you think having any of those people (the users, idiots, or ill-informed) in places of power--oh, let's just say pretty much the ultimate place of power, the White House --is a serious problem for this country? Especially when such a large swath of people take these users/idiots/misinformed quite seriously on many fronts?
Yes, there is a definite benefit. To ourselves. You can't fix stupid, so why fight it. But we can fight the users and try to reach the misinformed.
And yes, once again, I also think having any of those folks in positions of power is dangerous, very dangerous. That is why it is our duty to figure out which is which and react accordingly.
As for those "large swaths"? They are the 'mob' that any good citizen must continually refute. Since I mentioned "always," those mobs would be the cohorts of Bruts to the proponents of White Supremacy, the militias, the anarchists, and the demagogues of popularism.
We have a place in this fight. We just have to make sure we understand what that place is.
But some of those Steve Bannon(s), with a big platform and audience, have been part of the WH. The same WH that have criticized Dr. Fauci and called him an idiot. There are a lot of gullible people, morons and plain crazies following them. All (general) you have to do is check how many death threats have received Dr. Fauci just for trying to help the country.
Steve Bannon is not just "a drunk". He's been legitimized by being part of the current administration. His words, just like Trump words matter to many. And they have repercussions. You may think is silly, but it is not.
And to cranka's point, one would think that, "silly" or not, everyone should have condemned Bannon words, also all the attacks on Dr. Fauci reputation and threats to his life, starting with the same adm he works for.
But maybe it's just me (and the federal agents) that think is serious.
Nah, I think you are right to think it is serious. It only takes one nutcase with a weapon to cause a tragedy. And as has been daily demonstrated, we have a lot of nutcases. But so did Lincoln. This is nothing new. The difference is the public platform that today's technology has given those nutcases.
In Lincoln's time, it would have taken weeks or months for one nutcase's rantings to reach an audience or have an effect. Now, it only takes minutes. And the audience is almost unlimited.
As for the thought that everyone should have condemned Bannon's words, I completely agree, but that is where we are as a society—it's us or them, and we will not take prisoners. This needs to change. There is only "us." We found that in 9/11. And heaven help us that it is only in times like that that we do.
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