Ronald Reagan, according the Friday's Gallup poll. I was shocked to see that George Bush and Thomas Jefferson tied. Who answers these polls?? I don't think W was as evil as many libs do, but to compare him to the brilliant Jefferson is a joke.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/146183/Ameri … ident.aspx
Just about all historians rate Lincoln Number one, Washington or FDR two and three.
FDR third just goes to show there are some painfully stupid historians in America.
Ah yes, because you have bias you think men who studied far more history than you probably ever will, are stupid. Your comment alone says that you are..well..
I have a degree in History and have found historians to be perfectly corrected and unerring in everything. Thank goodness we have these angels among us and that they are not subject to the same foolishness as we mere mortals. Thank goodness for plagiarists and liberal hacks who parade themselves on NPR,PBS and C-Span as paragons of historiographical virtue.
Tell Doris Kerns Goodwin I said Hi.
Oh yes and by the way have the guts to let your jerk flag fly and call someone stupid when you mean too. It will no doubt redound to your benefit among the smart set at the hookah and samovar cafe tomorrow. "Guess what fellow smarties, I called someone who expressed his opinion stupid. What a mad panic I am. (girlish giggle)."
Oh and one more thing. One of the first things you learn when writing your first honest to goodness historical work(not the little papers everyone writes) is that everyone is biased and that it is nearly impossible to expunge all bias from your work.
I'd rate Jefferson and Lincoln #1 and #2, but I'm not a historian.
Jefferson, great supporter of the crazy French Revolution? The man who couldn't run his own financial affairs well enough to free his slaves. The same slaves who had to be sold off to satisfy his debts. I would put Jefferson in the top 10 but no way #1. Washington and Lincoln #1 & #2 0r #2 & #1 depending on the criteria. The tiers drop off rapidly after those 2.
I would say: Lincoln No1, Washington No 2, , and Theodore Roosevelt No 3.
Relevant: http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/68201
Why does it take a satirical site like The Onion to point out that whenever anyone brings up those "Reagan ideals" they almost never apply to what Ronald Reagan actually did during his presidency, but they do usually apply to Dwight Eisenhower?
In 2006, Political Psychology argued that Jefferson was the most brilliant POTUS of all. From what I've read about him, I agree!
Jefferson might very well have been the smartest man to ever be President but he wasn't the smartest at being Pres.
True dat!
If only Jefferson didn't sell out when he became pres!
There many very good reasons for that. Most are buried along the "Trail of Tears."
As just an American, not a historian or holder of any type of history degree... I would rate Abe Lincoln pretty high...
Next might be JFK Can't help it.
I'd put Washington as 1, Lincoln as 2, and Theodore Roosevelt as 3.
TR was an amazing man, I think Mt. Rushmore has it right. TR, however, was a progressive.
Don't mistake the term progressive with the same meaning that the loony libs attribute to it. A lot of the progressive movement had to do with rooting out corruption, finding ways to reduce waste and inefficiency, reforms to make the municipalities and government effective, and belief in family. You shouldn't let the loony libs take ownership of the progressive movement.
The roots of contemporary progressives are sunk among progressives at the turn of the previous century including TR.
True but I would say the contemporary progressive brought it to a totally different level where TR might not even recognize it.
Well if being a nut job makes you a great president than you are right. If only Ross Perot had been elected pres. the list could have 2 on it.
how can you be for Jefferson "pre-presidency", but be against Ron Paul?
It's like loving Coke, but hating Pepsi...
If he bumps off the Fed Reserve, he would get my vote. It's just a cartel for the Rothchilds.
If you had stopped after the eliminate the federal reserve I could play that game. I just can't do the global conspiracy thing - too nutty for my blood. I like my ideas smooth not extra chunky.
Washington. He quit after 2 terms even though he probably could have been president as long as he wanted. Something present day politicians could follow.
Lincoln and Jefferson have to be right up there with him. Lincoln had to save a country from being divided and I am not sure anyone else at the time could have done it. The strength, the resolve and the character he displayed has been unparalled since.
Washington is my pick as well though I can see a tremendous argument on Lincoln's behalf. After those two the field fades rapidly with number three being far behind.
I think Washington's war was more impossible. It took miracles. Lincoln used every advantage brilliantly.
I would politely disagree, but history is replete with disagreements polite, impolite and violent.
Bill Clinton the best because of high on production and low on wars, maybe GW Bush the worst.
England was at a huge disadvantage in the American Revolution. Fighting a war thousands of miles from home is difficult today, and I'm sure it was even worse 200+ years ago. A war of attrition gives a big advantage to the "home team", because the invading military has to use too many resources to ship in supplies.
Perhaps if England had been able to form stronger ties with more Native American tribes they would have had a chance, but as it was they stood little chance of squashing the independence movement.
At least until the colonists got Twitter and Facebook!
When was America greatest? I think the answer lies in this question. And depending on what you consider great. For one I think the greatest president you ever had was one who came face to face with America's worst fears and that was A. Lincoln
I think Jefferson. His vision of America as a simple agrarian society was flawed, but who could have foreseen the industrial revolution. I saw some pretty absurd criticism that he didn't become rich enough. I suspect it's true he didn't pay as much attention to farming as he did to the promotion of democracy, and the concept of the natural rights of man but that's symptomatic of patriotism. He did support the French Revolution - the French supported our revolution. Nobody knew going into those events could have know what the outcome would be. Supporting the French aristocracy and their oppression would have been wrong. Jefferson was later a fierce critic of Boanaparte.
I agree with the selection of Lincoln and Both Roosevelts, Teddy amd FDR. JFK was a visionary. In the next 6 years we will see Obama's ability to negotiate seriously tested because we MUST confront the fiscal problems without abandoning our social obligations. He may make the list.
If you are a hubber and you can not spot a difference between coke and pepsi then you must undertake a marketing tutorial.
right, but if you go to a restaurant, and you order coke, but they say "we have pepsi", do you change your order?
No of course not. They're basically the same thing.
I will be the first one to mention Richard Nixon. He tried and succeeded at "cooling down" the Cold War, got us out of Vietnam, opened up relations, hell, "recongized" mainland China, and was really the last of the non-ideologue Republican presidents. He certainly doesn't rank in the top 5, but he should certainly be considered within the top 10. The good far outweighs the stigma of Watergate.
Teddy Roosevelt was the last great president. he stood up to the fat-cat industrialists and got us our National Forests
all those jerks who made jobs for thousands and made countless every day items cheaper to own!
I HATE THEM!!!
I just saw poll results for this exact question and there were some interesting choices:
#1. Ronald Reagan
#2. Abraham Lincoln
#3. Bill Clinton
#4. JFK
#5. George Washington
I will find link to the poll if anyone cares.
I might agree with four of these five, but Bill Clinton disgusts me as a human being, so will never be in my top five for anything. A. Lincoln is a personal favorite of mine, so much so that I hubbed about him. He overcame so much and still became president. He showed enormous humility and character during his presidency in a time when our country was ripped apart.
Reagan and JFK would probably not make my top 10, let alone my top 5. It seems Americans only know about recent presidents and the big 3: Washington, Lincoln, and JFK. Even Jefferson and Teddy Roosevelt are b-level celebrities compared to the big 3. I wonder what percentage of people answering this poll could explain anything specific about Ronald Reagan's economic policy other than the mantra "he lowered taxes".
Good points, I Am DB Cooper.
Not to mention marching into battle in bright red coats and silly hats.
Abraham Lincoln gets my nod.
1. He defied logic by taking advantage of every break life never gave him.
2. He defied gravity by becoming the greatest president even though he was surrounded by three of the worst (Pierce, Buchanan, and A. Johnson).
3. He defied math by taking one divided into two and coming out with one.
If Lincoln had failed to keep the union together, who knows how differently things would have turned out four score later.
He didn't keep the union together.
He dissolved the union and made it mandatory.
If they South wasn't allowed to leave when it wanted, in what sense was it a Union?
"I hold that, in contemplation of universal law and of the Constitution, the Union of these States is perpetual. Perpetuity is implied, if not expressed, in the fundamental law of all national governments. It is safe to assert that no government proper ever had a provision in its organic law for its own termination." - From his 1st inaugural address
"Both parties deprecated war, but one of them would make war rather than let the nation survive, and the other would accept war rather than let it perish, and the war came." - From his 2nd inaugural address
Lincoln did not dissolve the union. The Confederacy attempted to dissolve the union. The USA still exists. He preserved the union by not accepting the Confederacy's attempt to dissolve it.
Mr.Ralph Deeds is correct.
It is Abraham Lincoln in No.1 slot.
George Washington will come next.
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