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Is There a Ban on Incandescent Light Bulbs?

Updated on March 31, 2014

Have They Banned Our Old Standby Lights?

Has a ban on incandescent lights really gone into effect in America? No, the light bulb police will NOT come and haul you away if you illuminate your home with 75 or 100 watters. It's not even illegal to buy or sell them.

But, as of now, it is ILLEGAL to manufacture or import 100 or 75 watt Edison bulbs. And soon, 40 and 60 watt bulbs will be added to that list.

So, the effect will eventually be that of a ban.

While some people have no strong feelings either way, there are also those who are whole-heartedly in favor of this new law, and others who are staunchly opposed. Some have already embraced new oness, and others are quietly putting more than a few extra of the older style ones away while they can.

Presented here are a few of the pros and cons on the new Compact Fluorescent Lamps that many are now using, as well as some places to find both the old and new kind on line . . . for now, anyway.

Edison Bulbs

or Filament Lamps

Soon, the lights we all grew up with will become a thing of the past. All things have their day, I guess.

I can remember when I was a child, I had an elderly great aunt who used "Edison Bulbs." At least that's what she called her electric light bulbs - after Thomas Alva Edison, who invented them over a century ago. (She was quite the stickler for giving credit where credit was due!)

Standard incandescent lights have also been referred to as filament lamps, because of the thin tungsten metal filament inside them that, when heated, incandesces, or glows.

I have to wonder what the famous inventor would think of the twirly looking things that are replacing his handiwork, don't you?

Photo: my own

Energy Independence and Security Act

Is the Name of the Actual Law

As is normally the case with legislation, this law covers a lot of things. But here is the essence of the short term regulations placed on light bulbs by the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007:

Light bulbs from 40 watts through 100 watts must be 25% more efficient, by the following dates:

- October 1, 2012 for 100's **

- The beginning of 2013 for 75's

- The beginning of 2014 for 40 and 60 watt

Since most current incandescents do not meet this standard, and manufacturers are not doing the necessary and expensive retooling to do so, this effectively bans them as of the above dates.

**Originally Jan 1, 2012, but extended

There is more on tap beyond 2014, too!

Are You In Favor of This Law - (a poll)

Is it appropriate for the government to dictate which light bulbs you can use?

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If You Prefer - 100 and 75 Watt Bulbs

As the deadline has passed , it's only logical that the price of 75 and 100 watt incandescent light bulbs will increase as the available supply decreases.

If you are among those who might wish to have a choice in the future, that choice will need to be in your pantry, as eventually, it will not be on the shelves of your local store.

How many of each of these wattages do you use in a year? If you want to continue using them, instead of one of the alternatives, you'll probably want to have enough on hand to last for as long as you plan to continue using them.

More Filament Lights - or Edison Bulbs

Bulbrite 30/100 3-Way Standard Incandescent A19 Lightbulb, Soft White
Bulbrite 30/100 3-Way Standard Incandescent A19 Lightbulb, Soft White

This old style 3 way is considerable less expensive than a comparable new style one.

 

These Spiral Lights - are Compact Fluorescents Lamps

These are the new 100 watt equivalents.

CFLs have come down a bit, and are now less than $3 each. Still, they are more expensive than the regular old fashioned incandescents. Prices on the old ones are going up, but you can sill get them for under $1 each if bought in bulk.

But, remember, the CFLs last longer, and are good for the environment, unless they break, in which case they are quite hazardous

GE 26 Watt Energy Smart CFL - 6 Pack - 100 Watt Replacement
GE 26 Watt Energy Smart CFL - 6 Pack - 100 Watt Replacement

The manufacturer's specs on this bulb says it has an 8000 hour life.

 

Energy Saving CFL Lights

Some "Pros"

- CFLs use less energy than old fashioned light bulbs.

- We are told they last much, much longer than filament light bulbs. (In my kitchen light, this did NOT prove to be the case, however.)

- They emit less heat than ordinary ones, which will be appreciated by people in warmer climates, where the cost of running air conditioners tends to be a major portion of their yearly utility cost.

- They are much greener than the old ones. (Unless they break, in which case, they are far more environmentally hazardous)

- There are a variety of different types available.

Objections to CFLs

Some "Cons"

Some of the objections to these new lights include

- They cost much more than incandescent ones. (But have come down in the last year) Special use bulbs are even more. Dimmable CFLs and 3-ways can run $15 - 30 each, or more.

- Used bulbs must be taken to specially designated recyclers. Broken CFLs are hazardous because of the mercury content, and there are special clean up procecures.

- In a minority of indivuduals, they are the suspected cause of headaches, rashes, and other health related problems.

- They are not recommended for use in ceiling fans, lamps that might be knocked over, or outdoor fixtures.

- You should spread down a drop cloth when chanaging them. In case of breakage, the cloth and fragments must be bundled up and taken to a specially designated disposal site.

- If you like to buy "Made in the USA" products, these are NOT.

- An alarmingly high percentage of workers in Chinese plants where they are manuractured have been hospitalized for mercury poisoning.

News You Should Read - Related Links from around the Web

Decide for yourself ...

Here is the text of the legislation, two guest editorials (one pro, and one con), a rather interesting story, and a VERY concerning one about what's happening to Chinese workers at plants tha manufacture CFLs.

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      asrow777 3 years ago

      @betterhealth lm: I agree. As I'm one of those sufferers of CFL's. Especially since I spend up to 10 hours a day in an office building at a computer and have to suffer with mandatory fluorescent lighting across the ceilings. I can feel them immediately impinge on my eyes and concentration. It's like a dazed feeling. The pain builds up in my eyeballs & at the upper behind of my eyes which transfers through my brain into a head pain. My eyes can also feel scratchy or burning or tired. I spend a lot of my time closing my eyes & covering them with my hands although this doesn't do much to relieve the problem. I have noticed that when the lights are off in the building on a weekend I do not experience these problems. Also of course if I'm outside I do not have these eye problems. However I've also noticed it from long sessions in front out a CFL back lit computer screen. It's really debilitating & unfair that government standards enforce this on us based political motives.

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      betterhealth lm 4 years ago

      Thanks for this lens. There are a lot of people in society who suffer from Light Sensitivity (photophobia) and who cannot tolerate the flickering of CFLs and the color of the light emitted by both CFLs and LEDs. Added to this are the problems caused by overillumination in many offices, factories, shops, etc. these days. Health problems with CFL lamps include migraine, epileptic attacks, lupus, etc. Why don't the lawmakers create exceptions for people who suffer medical problems from CFLs and LEDs and allow incandescent light bulbs to be purchased by them?

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      Arthur Russ 4 years ago from England

      Interesting to hear whatâs happening on the other side of the Atlantic. We went through this a few years ago in Britain when incandescent bulbs were withdrawn from sale and replaced with the Energy Saving CFL lights. However, in the last year these Energy Saving lights have been withdrawn from sale and now replaced with Halogen bulbs, which although use a little less energy than the original incandescent bulbs use a lot more energy than the Energy Saving bulbs they replaced. Iâm not sure of the reason for the recent change in policy, although the Energy Saving CFL lights were unpopular because they didnât give out as much light and were very expensive to buy.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      The same thing is happening in Europe ... and I can't sayy that I'm fine with it. I really like the warm light of incadescent light bulbs. Now I'm thinking of LED lights (but only with WW - warm white light), they are a little bit more expencive but the don't bother my eyes that much. Fantastic lens, I really enjoyed reding it.

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      MadeInAmerica LM 4 years ago

      Thanks for this great lens!

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      writerkath 4 years ago

      I'm glad you wrote about this topic. Believe it or not, my husband and I were just talking about this! :) I'm glad there's no actual ban... I don't like fluorescent lighting - it really bothers my eyes. Good, well-written piece here! :)

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      mistaben 4 years ago

      Thank you for writing this lens, it was very informative incandescent light bulbs =)

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      shewins 4 years ago

      I have a few light fixtures that the new CFL bulbs do not fit in. That is frustrating that I will eventually have to change my fixtures unless they make CFLs that will fit.

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      yellowmouse lm 4 years ago

      great lens, wonder if the ban will be enforced in europe

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      Forcing us to by an inferior product at a higher price violates the free market economy. The energy saved using CFL bulbs is nothing compared to the energy spent to produce them in china and shipped to the US. (even if labor is cheaper.)

      At this rate We will be in the dark, literally

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      I'm not a big fan of CFL bulbs and even less of a fan of a government that regulated the manufactuing in the name of being green. CFL bulbs produce a high pitch noise that is very irritating. I spent money on dimmable ones and when the on board electronics short out, It fills the house with a toxic smell of burnt resin. You want to promote energy savings, turn of the light when you leave a room., lower our thermostat, or put on a sweater. I really fins it insulting to be told how to save energy (and money) by a government thay cannot live within a budget.

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      Lorelei Cohen 5 years ago from Canada

      Being sensitive to UV rays I have been busily stock piling incandescent light bulbs for the future. The tube lighting and new CFL bulbs both send out UV rays and I cannot handle them. I find that I can be out in the malls or other businesses for one day but if I go two days in a row that I fall ill and it takes me about a week to recuperate. I really wish the governments would look at better ways of saving energy than through light bulbs. I really worry about kids being under these all day long at school.

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      Simbaa 5 years ago

      very good information. great job

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      Susan R. Davis 5 years ago from Vancouver

      We're all looking for ways to support a more green way of living, trying not to deplete our reserves of resources that provide power in our society. Sure, lightbulbs provide light through electricity, but that electricity costs money to make, and in states like California, there is often not enough to go around during some months of the year, causing brownouts or blackouts. Why wouldn't someone choose to use a more efficient form of lighting that uses less electricity - and just so happens to also save on the electricity bill? I believe in the power of choice, but there has been a long tradition of taxing or otherwise attempting to prevent people from making choices that hurt OTHER people's right to make choices. I think this is one of those. Maybe you want to use incandescent bulbs. Is that fair to neighbors who might suffer along with you from energy blackouts? Oh, and in some areas, if I understand correctly, electricity is not provided by clean sources such as water power but instead by generators that are run by fossil fuels or other fuel sources that CAN be depleted. So indirectly, additional electricity usage has the effect of using up fuel sources that can be used better elsewhere.

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      Sandy Mertens 5 years ago from Frozen Tundra

      Very informative on incandescent light bulbs.

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      sweetstickyrainbo 5 years ago

      getting rid of the new bulbs is a toxic waste event ready to happen.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      nice lens

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      thegrayrabbit 5 years ago

      I'm all about doing what I can for conserving energy but I don't want the government to tell me that I have to.

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      CruiseReady 5 years ago from East Central Florida

      @retta719: I agree. And then, they will have to start giving the trash collectors hazardous duty pay or something, because the burnt out ones will break when they dump the cans of garbage into their trucks ... and into the landfills.

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      Loretta 5 years ago from United States

      Honestly, the CFL bulbs scare me a little bit. "oh it's just a light bulb, unless of course you drop it, then it's poisonous and hazardous" and I'm a clumsy person. Our only option when one burns out or breaks is to bag it up and take it to Lowe's where they collect them up. I firmly believe a lot of people are NOT going to take that extra step and they're just going to toss the burnt out bulbs into the trash can with the rest of their trash. Not because they're lazy, but because it's habit, it's easy to do, and there's not enough information to remind people that you can't just toss them in the bin like that.

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      sunny saib 5 years ago

      Very informative.. I didn't think or know that much about bulbs til now..

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      'Vikk Simmons 5 years ago from Houston

      I really don't get the whole thing as the new bulbs apparently have bigger issues than the one they are replacing. I want them to leave my 100 watt light bulbs alone. They work. :) And I really wish they'd concentrate on the bigger problems and quite jacking with me. So much for my rant. :)

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      nealberk 5 years ago

      @Bulbs1: Halogens are way too hot and use up lots of electricity. LED is the only way to go. Almost no energy consumption, nright light, very long lasting. If it were not for the cost, they would make CFL bulbs a thing of the past. By the way, one city here in Texas is mandating that new houses only come with LED lights.

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      MayaIxchel 5 years ago

      I can't recall the last time I saw an incandescent bulb here. Even though they are more expensive, the only bulbs available are CFL. Because electricity is so expensive, I would love to change everything to LED. Great lens! Greetings from 'the land of eternal spring'!

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      CruiseReady 5 years ago from East Central Florida

      @Bulbs1: Yes, people should make up their own minds, based on evaluating the information for themselves, not just depending on others telling them what to do or think.

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      CruiseReady 5 years ago from East Central Florida

      @artbyrodriguez: I do believe you are not alone, and that many others would agree if they were aware of the extent to which this sort of thing is going on.

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      Beverly Rodriguez 5 years ago from Albany New York

      I'm upset with this Government intrusion. Not only on this, but many other things, like if I can eat salt or sugar in a restaurant. Let us make our own decisions.

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      Bulbs1 5 years ago

      Great article. I especially like the pros and cons section. It's good that you dispel some rumors, but still ultimately let people decide for themselves. A couple things you're missing in this article are Halogens and LEDs, but overall, it's great!

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      tamstone 5 years ago

      I prefer to use halogens or LEDs... fluorescent bulbs have their place but LEDs are reasonably priced and will last. Incandescent light bulbs shouldn't be banned!

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      DIY Mary 5 years ago

      Although I like CFLs for the most part, you make a very good point about their dangers if one of them should break (and accidents do happen).

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      piedromolinero 5 years ago

      The same happened here in the EU and you don't get some incandescent bulbs anymore, except of those still being in stock at shops. Funny thing is, that one guy was trying to fight this regulation with selling the incandescent bulbs as heating device named heatballs. He argued that the device uses energy to produce 95% heat but only 5% light, hence being a small heating element.

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      EMangl 5 years ago

      i'm still pissed off that we have to buy the new shit which gives a much stranger light than i was used to

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      CruiseReady 5 years ago from East Central Florida

      @CCGAL: Thanks. I have a few extra incandescent bulbs stored away myself.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      Great lens. We use (or are switching to) LED's in our trailer. Brighter light with less battery drain. CFL's scare the heck out of me with the mercury they contain.

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      CCGAL 5 years ago

      I am afraid of CFLs because of the mercury in them. What I would love to see replace incandescent bulbs would be LED bulbs. We are gradually (because they are rather expensive now) replacing the small incandescent bulbs in our RV with LEDs and are delighted that they remain cool and give off more light with less use of the battery. I think you've done an excellent job of providing enough information here for people to make their own decisions. Excellent Squidoo lens.

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      sherioz 5 years ago

      I never knew about the hazards of the CFLs. That does not feel safe at all. I'm all for energy saving and "green" but not if there are other serious negative effects such as these bulbs seem to have.

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      xriotdotbiz lm 5 years ago

      While I would like to run CFL's through my house, hate being told I have no choice because they more ecologically sound? As your lens mentioned, CFL's are hazardous when broken and all bulbs are eventually going to break. If they don't break in use, they will when thrown out. I don't even know where I am supposed to "properly dispose" of them. My town doesn't have a hazardous waste center. I can barely recycle aluminum cans here.

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      Johanna Eisler 5 years ago

      I've tried the new bulbs, and they did not last nearly as long as their packaging said they would. The "ambiance" of the room was different, too - "cold" as opposed to "warm." I suppose I'll have to get used to them, but I prefer the old. :)

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      Camden1 5 years ago

      We've pretty much switched to CFL bulbs...it took me a little while to get used to them - the color is different and they're slow to warm up and really light up the room. But I'm used to them by now.

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      KevCooper 5 years ago

      Apart from the safety issue the new ones are nowhere near as bright as the incandescent bulbs.

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      WriterJanis2 5 years ago

      Excellent resource here. Wasn't aware of this. Blessed!

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      Chazz 5 years ago from New York

      CFL bulbs give off an unpleasant light and distort color. They only put out limited color bands in the entire spectrum. thus the colors we see in our rooms are not reflected back to our eyes with true fidelity. In fact, entire regions of the color spectrum are minimized or lost altogether when you use CFLs. They are also unsafe (aside from the mercury and UV issues, the ballast can and does self ignite) and do not throw light as far as incandescent bulbs do -- and there is no valid reason other than corporate greed for the inflated prices of CFs.

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      UKGhostwriter 5 years ago

      We've had a a law passed in the UK a few years ago limitting the wattage to 40.

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      Lorelei Cohen 5 years ago from Canada

      I'm just back to brighten the light a bit one more on the CFL lightbulb issue. I have an illness that causes me to be very sensitive to UV rays and guess what kind of light the new CFL bulbs give off? Yep! They send out UV rays. It scares the heck out of me that bulbs which are based on UV rays may be our only choice of lighting soon. (Fluorescent tube lighting also falls into this category).

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      Deadicated LM 5 years ago

      I saw a piece on "Made In America" where the army need the old light bulbs and there was only one company left making them in the USA; and ABC News hooked them up together, I like the old better and I use both, the new ones are more energy efficient, last longer but I find them to not be as bright as I need them to be to do my artwork. Thanks for the though provoking Lens and info.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      Having the government decide for us that we should switch from a reliable light source to one that contains mercury and will become a waste disposal hazard for the future is just plain dumb. Obviously, some of these politicians and lobbyists are investing in foreign companies - in China, Taiwan, & elsewhere.

      The US needs jobs so this new policy should be overturned and bulb plants like GE and Sylvania reopened here. Do they really think that having thes CFL's made overseas doesn't pollute the planet?

      As for me, I like the warm glow that an incandescent bulb throws out, and also have some lampshades that fit right over the bulb. Now I have to replace perfectly good fixtures and that is not "going green" people.

      Like Al Gore, I do have concerns about our planet and want to take care of it but first let me shoot some of those Washington folks who come up with these little schemes that simply make my life more aggravated.

      For now, the new CFL's are not a good alternatative and so therefore, the import ban against bulbs should be lifted, and the policy rescinded.

      It was getting hard enough to find 200w and 250w bulbs. Believe it or not, some rooms and ceilings need that much intensity to light properly. I think one bright bulb is better than several smaller ones and more energy efficient. If you've ever lived in a dark northern state like upper Michigan in December, you'd understand.

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      CruiseReady 5 years ago from East Central Florida

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      lighthouse10 5 years ago

      Yes it is a ban...

      (what's the point in having comments here, if you don't allow criticism?)

      As anyone can check from 2007 EISA regulation, it is effectively a ban on all ordinary incandescents:

      Phase 2 after 2014 - that you neglect to mention - means that all incandescents for regular use will be banned, on the 45 lumen per W end-regulation that applies - and that touted halogen type replacements can't reach.

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      beannie64 5 years ago

      Awesome info!

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      gamrslist 5 years ago

      had new bulbs in scotland and philippines for a while i don't miss the old type and the new ones last longer by far cool lens thank you

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      Rose Jones 5 years ago

      It is my understanding that these new bulbs have mercury in them. Really. Mercury.

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      AJ 5 years ago from Australia

      We use the new bulbs and I don't think they throw as bright a light, which is sometimes annoying, particularly for reading purposes.

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      sergeyyoung 5 years ago

      There are cons to the new lighting technologies but if we support them they will evolve quicker and we will get what we want quicker. Energy efficient high quality bulbs.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      Both my business partner and I get headaches and nausea when rooms are lit with CFL bulbs in less than 1/2 hour. Shopping, eating out and going into other peoples homes is becoming impossible as more and more of these bulbs make their way into homes and businesses. They can't disappear fast enough for me! Bring on the LED lights - fast! We are stocking incancescents for our homes, family and friends! We are already in a position to have to turn down work and social activities because of lightbulbs!!!!!

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      mjtaylor lm 5 years ago

      I have to stock on on incandescents. Fluorescents cast an ugly and I am also convinced that there is a negative mood effect.

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      nyclittleitaly 5 years ago

      Thank you for this lens. To me it seems that some politician has a stake in the sale of these bulbs. I think government has become so much more intrusive then ever before. Telling us what to eat, what to drink, to wear a seat belt and the list goes on and on.

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      CruiseReady 5 years ago from East Central Florida

      @glenbrook: AND the number of workers in chinese factories where they are made that have been hospitalized with Mercury Poisoning is stunning!

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      glenbrook 5 years ago

      About CFL bulbs: the light quality is poor, they don't last much longer than incandescent bulbs, they cost too much, and they contain toxic levels of mercury. Congress (and the executive branch, too) needs to start abiding by the enumerated powers granted them in our Constitution and quit being such a bunch of g**-***n control freaks.

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      JanieceTobey 5 years ago

      It's the mercury in the bulbs that is of concern to me. Many people don't realize that it's not safe to simply throw them away. Anytime one of these bulbs breaks, whether it's in your house, in your outside trash bin, in the garbage truck as it picks up your garbage and crushes it, or in the land fill, it's releasing toxic mercury into our environment.

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      GreenMind 5 years ago from USA

      No ban! I kind of hate fluorescent bulbs.

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      blizzard54 5 years ago

      So far 100 w incandescent bulbs are still being shipped to retailers.

      I only use incandescent in a couple places that I need the extra brightness.

      I have lots of compact fluorescent bulbs around.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      Fluorescent bulbs are good for the low power consumption. They will not work in lava lamps or other specialized lamps.

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      Joyce T. Mann 5 years ago from Bucks County, Pennsylvania USA

      The old bulbs allow me to see better.

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      TenPoundTenor 5 years ago

      Great lens. I use some of both sometimes an incandescent bulb is better.

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      lighthouse10 5 years ago

      @LouisaDembul: Being Green? :-O

      When using CO2 free electricity and a CO2 producing heating source

      you are increasing - not decreasing CO2 release as shown by Physics Prof Lehtonen on a Finnish TV program, in presenting his research

      Light bulbs themselves don't burn coal or release any CO2!

      If there is a problem, deal with the problem.

      At least in colder climates, the incandescent heat replacement effect should be taken into account.

      So should the "power factor" of common CFLs and LEDs meaning the use twice the energy at the power plant to what your meter uses, as Osram-Sylvania (Europe) admit in their factsheet, see Ceolas site link in other comment.

      And that is before getting into the mercury of CFLs, the rare earth minerals in LEDs, the mining, the energy requiring manufacture in Chinese coal plant powered factories, the transport around the world on bunker oil powered ships, compared to closer production of simple cheap incandescents, the dumping of CFLs in nature etc etc

      Green people around the world, rejoice...

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      hsschulte 5 years ago

      I have several lamps where a CFL won't fit too.

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      Shorebirdie 5 years ago from San Diego, CA

      Great information. They are making the new bulbs a lot better nowadays. I see no problem in using the new ones. Where I live, the electricity company frequently gives out these bulbs for free to low-income customers, so cost isn't really an excuse for not using them other than they don't fit in your lamp (which is true for a couple of the lamps I have).

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      Andy 5 years ago from London, England

      Interesting lens. We have had a similar debate here in the U.K. and across Europe too.

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      CruiseReady 5 years ago from East Central Florida

      @Brandi Bush: You are not alone.

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      Brandi 5 years ago from Maryland

      We are stocking up on the old-fashioned kind. :)

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      seosmm 5 years ago

      Lots of interesting points. THe future of CFL should prove very enlightening. :)

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      ThriftyTuscany 5 years ago

      This is such a funny issue. In the US energy costs so little, but in Europe it costs four or five times as much. Incandescent light bulbs here are outlaw since Jan 1, 2010 and fluorescent energy saving bulbs are just a wonderful substitute, lasting 8 to 10 times more, and consuming a fifth. It all comes down to money, eventually, but if you were to tell me I would need to change my bulbs ten times less frequently, I would gradually replace all the incandescent bulbs in my house

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      thesuccess2 5 years ago

      @lighthouse10: Compared to incandescent lamps giving the same amount of visible light, CFLs use less power (one fifth to one third) and have a longer rated life (eight to fifteen times). In fact the LED lamps are criticized because they emit so little heat they fail to melt snow and ice which settles on them when they are used outdoors.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      Well, there are a lot of interesting points that can be made by both sides of the CFL-bulb debates. I sure do wish there were some truly made in the USA. Lights of America assembles theirs in the USA, but many of the parts come from overseas. I don't mind the government raising fuel-efficiency standards for cars -- how else are we going to reduce our dependence on foreign oil? We know we can do better on that, and the government is just giving a bit of nudge to keep it moving. Thanks for the lens.

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      sheezie77 5 years ago

      great lens!

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      lighthouse10 5 years ago

      @anonymous: Yes, True Patriot, re GE, Philips, Osram etc profiting:

      Why do you think standard lifespan is 1000 hours?

      Because the manufacturer Phoebus Cartel (look it up) set it at that..and a special 1000 hr Committee punished and cut markets for any newbie threatening manufacturer.

      Now, they want profits on price as well as turnover (CFL/LED lifespans not as lab specified, for many reasons)

      So, targeting light bulbs is token green politics, allowing politicians to wave funny bulbs around to show they are "doing something" (marginal energy savings, as per other comment).... at least doing something for the manufacturers, who sought and welcomed CFL programs and switchover regulations.

      Any neutral should ask:

      Why WELCOME being told what you can or can't make? :-)

      The profit motive for GE, Philips and Osram, as admitted by them , referenced and documented: http://ceolas.net/#li1ax onwards.

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      LouisaDembul 5 years ago

      We already have this situation here, you can only buy the energy saving type of bulbs. They are expensive to buy, but usually last longer. And, of course, being green has its positive sides!

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      asktoddmiller 5 years ago

      Thanks for the info, explains a lot!

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      myamya 5 years ago

      Very interesting lens thanks for posting!

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      the fcc aproved them but they interfere with radios. People with reseased light haft to rewire their house. They can't be used with dimmer switch's, or 3 way lamps clean up is expensive to have hasmat team come. They are putting people out of business. I think they need to rethink this one congress has gone too far

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      BestSoundtracks 5 years ago

      Interesting lens!

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      Bob Zau 5 years ago

      Nice and very informative. I have a friend that rants about the fluorescent change over, this may ease his mind or give him more fuel âº

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      E L Seaton 5 years ago from Virginia

      Thanks for en lightening me, no pun intended. I just don't feel CF bulbs give all the light that's advertised or have the life span IMHO. Great job, excuse me, I have to go accumulate all the incandescents I'll need for the rest of my life.

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      Joan Haines 5 years ago

      Thanks. I've been wondering about this. Now there's a lightbulb that's just appeared right over my head.

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      Esteemmarketing 5 years ago

      Have been working with the LED lamps and fixtures, I have to say I have been impressed I prefer them over the CFLs and they look and act more like an incandescent bulb, with color, instant on and dimming.

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      Peggy Hazelwood 5 years ago from Desert Southwest, U.S.A.

      I've been using these curly light bulbs for several years now. I've gotten used to them and think they're good for the environment but do think we should have a choice. BTW, Dollar Tree and 99 Cent stores sell these for $1.00 (or $.99).

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      christianzzz 5 years ago

      i was discussing about this in my class :)

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      Facts:

      80% of CFL's are made in China (this is "spreading the wealth around")

      GE has recently closed a factory in the U.S. to manufacture incandescent just to open a facility in China, Silly me isn't Jeffery Immelt (GE CEO) Americas Job Czar not China's. Silly us, we are just little children.

      They are made with Mercury, which is a poison and you will have to pay to dispose of them. (this is a hidden cost).

      Studies show they last only 30-40% of claimed lifespan.

      Show me the savings? I can get incandescent right now at Home Depot for 18 cents each, if CFL's are even as low as $4 a piece then that is 22 times the price. Silly us, we forget the true agenda this is how America makes money anymore as we no longer manufacture anything.

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      CruiseReady 5 years ago from East Central Florida

      @sudokunut: Yes, it's also been my experience that they do NOT last anywhere near as long as is claimed. You're also not supposed to use them in ceiling fans that also have lights. We have those kinds of fans in every room!

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      Mark Falco 5 years ago from Reno, Nevada

      Hmm, it's a tough one. On one hand I do believe the new bulbs are better in the long run but on the other hand I don't think anyone should be banning me from using any product for any reason. That said, those CFLs which are supposed to last longer seem to burn out just as fast as the old ones in my experience so they might save energy but I doubt they do much to save on cost once you factor in the ridiculous price they are to begin with.

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      JoshK47 5 years ago

      Fantastic information you've put together here - I certainly would prefer if the government didn't dictate which ones I can and can't use. Blessed by a SquidAngel!

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      @anonymous: The light bulb police might not raid your house, but someday they will put the drones they don't need in Iraq, Afghanistan and other conflicts to work here in the states- with heat detection equipment. They do it NOW in the UK, flying over homes and looking for high levels of heat. I think they fine the energy criminals. BTW, that's how they found out the Occupy London protesters were going elsewhere at night. Their heat-detection equipment discovered very little heat in the "occupiers" tents. Once all the hottest bulbs are banned, the government will begin their privacy invading surveillance for HEAT coming from your home, signifying you're using more energy than the radical environmentalists think you should.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      @anonymous: I was born in 1951. I say that to show that I'm a good source. It's "LAVA LAMP", not larva lamp! So named because the wax in the lamp starts moving around (as I'm sure you know) and looks like lava when it gets warm.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      @BarbRad: There are a few exemptions from the law: Various specialty bulbs, including appliance bulbs, "rough service" bulbs, colored lights, plant lights, and 3-way bulbs, are exempt from these requirements. Certain stage lighting is also exempt. So if your decorative light bulbs are colored, you should be able to continue using them. I think globes may fall under specialty lights, but the info I found on Wikipedia didn't elaborate. (Also, the safety measures you'll find are usually highly over-stated. Some say you have to call a haz-mat team for a broken CFL! Just use common sense, and be careful where you use them.)

      If the tyrannical federal government keeps going in this direction, we won't have to worry! We'll all have to live in mud huts with candlelight.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      @cruiselinefans: I started storing them about 3 years ago, when I heard about this law in 2008. Fluorescent light SUCKS, and an illegal law isn't going to stop me from having the kind of light I like, all for the hoax of "global warming" or "climate change". (Give me a break, change is what climate is all about!) Some fools have used 100 watt bulbs in lamps that CLEARLY STATE that anything over 60 watts will cause a fire hazard. Some people just ain't too bright. (Pun intended.)

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      PS.....I've bought 6 of the curly CFLs. Two of them didn't work from the start. Two others burned out in about a week. Economical??? Not when you pay $18 for 2 working bulbs!! Chinese high quality, again!

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      Two problems with what the fed govt is doing with incandescent light bulbs: 1) It IS unconstitutional, and if you give them an inch, no matter how "good" for us it is, they will take a mile. 2) The CFLs are made in CHINA, by an agreement with the federal govt. Many jobs are being lost in the USA, and neither Bush or Obama seemed/seems to care. And the jobs lost aren't just in the light bulb industry: the industry of every component, the industry of every material used is affected. Oh, there is a THIRD problem. Reportedly, the Chinese workers making the CFLs are getting very sick from exposure to mercury. The communist Chinese don't give a rat's behind about safety and work environment protection measures! So enjoy your CFLs, tree-huggers!

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      jadehorseshoe 5 years ago

      Return Visitor. Curly-Bulbs are GREAT; though govt is not.

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      CruiseReady 5 years ago from East Central Florida

      @anonymous: They are nit actually removing the"ban," just defunding the enforcement budget. The regulation itself is still on the books ... our government at work

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      Now that Congress is removing the ban GE has already closed their factory in WV...it's YOUR government at work.