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Updated on March 30, 2015
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My views on liberalism vs. conservatism

Does it really matter whether you are a liberal or a conservative? Currently the US (I can't speak much about other countries) is very polarized, and liberalism vs. conservatism is one of the major causes if not THE cause. I sense a lot of anger and hatred from both sides toward each other even to the point where I sometimes feel we're on the brink of another civil war.

Well, I hope it will never come to that, but the situation is quite serious nonetheless. While it's healthy to have different points of views, it really does not serve us to fight amongst ourselves.

Following is an excerpt from a comment made by one of the readers which I totally agree with:

"I think the division in politics is destroying our country from the inside, how can we unite our country against outside forces when we stand divided among ourselves?"

When I first wrote this page I didn't think much about that. In fact, I was just writing it for fun, and the division wasn't quite as bad back then. The number of visitors to this page has increased over the years, which is good, but I also realized that I need to be careful that I don't contribute to the problem. I would like my readers to have a healthy exchange of ideas rather than arguments that tear down each other. Therefore, please keep that in mind when you post your comments on this page. I also welcome your suggestions on how to improve this page. If you have any, please post it in the comment section at the bottom.

How liberal or conservative are you?

Take a fun quiz below to see how liberal or conservative you are

I took one of those online tests and here's the results:

Social Issues: 25% Conservative, 75% Liberal

Personal Responsibility: 50% Conservative, 50% Liberal

Fiscal Issues: 50% Conservative, 50% Liberal

Ethics: 25% Conservative, 75% Liberal

Defense and Crime: 60% Conservative, 40% Liberal

Overall: 40% Conservative, 60% Liberal

You can take the same test by clicking here.

Liberal and conservative - definitions

Being a liberal is promoting maximum individual freedom as well as being open minded and tolerant. A liberal is not afraid to explore and implement new and different ideas even those that may seem strange and unacceptable to the majority.

Please note that the above are the characteristics of true or classic liberalism. Unfortunately, these have been distorted by those who claim to be liberals but have other agendas (some refer to them as progressives, which is probably more appropriate), thus creating a new concept of liberalism which encompasses certain ideas like the love of big government, big spending, etc. (also read about "liberalism vs. progressivism" below).

A conservative is disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change (taken from dictionary.com which I believe is a pretty good definition).

One of the readers pointed out that I was actually a libertarian instead of a liberal especially in the political sense. Well, they're right but when I created this page politics wasn't at the top of my list. I was thinking more of everyday life situations. I have since modified the content of this page to reflect what I truly believe, and I will probably continue to do so as new ideas and knowledge are brought to light.

Conservatism vs liberalism in my life

I was a conservative turned liberal or should I say... libertarian?

I was raised a conservative and held conservative views for quite a while. However, I also have a rebellious side that always wants to break away from restrictive rules and societal norms, and seek freedom. Over time that side of me won and I now have more liberal views mostly on social issues.

As a conservative I was very uptight about things and sometimes got upset when I saw people behave in ways that were not acceptable to society. Now I'm very open minded, relaxed, tolerant, patient, and fun loving.

I'm all about enjoying life. I tend to disregard societal taboos and rules which serve no purpose other than to impose the views and beliefs of the majority. So I'm a social liberal and live a carefree lifestyle that would fit into the term Bohemian although I'm not much of an artist. I believe you should be able to do anything you like as long as you don't hurt others or yourself. However, as you should realize, that takes a lot of personal responsibility.

Just to give a couple of examples; to me it's cool to dress like a hippie, go barefoot, wear a nose ring, etc. but what about doing drugs or having multiple sexual partners? Before engaging in any of those, you should ask the question: will your behavior harm yourself or other people? And you should think long term too.

Note: all the above are MY views based on MY experiences. Yours may be different and that's fine. No one can always agree on everything and that's cool!

Again, this is not all about politics, so when I use the terms liberal and conservative I'm not necessarily referring to the political parties (i.e. Democratic and Republican). Having said that, some of the contents are political. Hey, it's good to have diversity, right? :)

Quick poll on health care

As you well know, President Obama has signed the new Health Care Reform Bill into law. Some people think it's great while others think it's terrible. What about you? This is an anonymous poll.

What do you think of the new Affordable Healthcare Act (a.k.a. Obamacare)?

See results
Health Care Reform and American Politics: What Everyone Needs to Know
Health Care Reform and American Politics: What Everyone Needs to Know

What were the political battles of 2009 and 2010, and what were the White House strategies? What does affordable care mean, and what comes next?

 

Gun control - another quick poll - Currently a hot topic for conservatives vs liberals

This is another polarizing issue in our country today. Where do you stand?

What is your view on gun control?

See results

Do We Need Gun Control?

The Gun Debate: What Everyone Needs to Know®
The Gun Debate: What Everyone Needs to Know®

How effective is gun control? Do guns make us safer or just the opposite? What factors contribute to gun violence? These are just a few of the thought provoking questions addressed in this book.

 

Liberalism vs progressivism

As I stated earlier, the notion of "liberalism" has been distorted from the original which espouses total freedom and enjoyment of life into something that's quite the opposite. Today some conservatives even say liberals are stupid, hate their country, and even "liberalism is a mental disorder."

Here are a few examples they often use to support their argument:

Liberals want to keep the borders open and allow illegal immigrants to come in and deplete our resources while letting drug dealers, criminals, and potential terrorists enter freely.

They refuse to drill for more oil within the US on a pretense of protecting the environment, and let us continue to depend on foreign oil while at the same time gas prices keep rising, driving up prices of other goods.

This one is a biggie: liberals want more government control on our lives which is just the opposite of promoting individual freedom.

So the question is, are these people really stupid and crazy (the blind followers may be) or do they actually have a bigger agenda?

Whatever it may be, the above are not consistent with true liberal beliefs. At least not in my book. Again, a more appropriate term for today's so-called liberals is progressives. More and more politicians are now using that term.

Learn more about progessivism and modern liberalism.

What do you think of liberalism vs. conservatism? - Let your voice be heard too.

Are you a liberal or a conservative? Please tell us why or in what ways.

If you don't think you fit into either category (perhaps you're neutral, a moderate, an independent or a libertarian like I am) and still want to comment please scroll to the bottom of the page and enter your comment there. Or hey, maybe you're a progressive? You're welcome to comment too :)

Important, please read before commenting:

All comments have to be approved before being posted (so, they won't show right away). Comments (from either liberals or conservatives) containing foul or abusive language, inflammatory, promoting hate or violence, and those that do not add value (stuff like "ditto", "me too", "I agree/disagree", "I hate so and so", etc.) WILL NOT BE POSTED! Remember, we can disagree without being nasty to each other.

One more thing and then I'll let you post, I promise :)... your post must be original. "Copy and paste" from another site or source is not acceptable.

Are you a liberal or a conservative?

OK, post your comments below.

My views are mostly liberal

My views are mostly liberal

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    • Thomas Ragon 21 months ago

      I have voted Ronald Ragon to both Bushes. I think that the left wing can lie, cheat steal and they get a pass from the main steam media. The liberal agenda is against the consistution. Anybody that goes against liberal agenda is demonized

    • Riliewu 2 years ago

      Yes, and he needs top remind his srouppters that it is they - not he - who will have to create the change.As for myself, I have always believed this. I have long since given up hoping for any sort of change to come from politicians. After all, they are the ones for whom the system has worked, and is now in the process of making rich. They will not create change. Only we can make change.

    • Johnd765 2 years ago

      Very well written article. It will be helpful to anyone who usess it, as well as yours truly cedeagbegdke

    • anonymous 3 years ago

      My views are liberal :(

    • aidenw 3 years ago from USA

      In response to the post by "Average Joe" below: No one is being coerced into anything here. You could have posted your opinion at the bottom without having to choose a side, as stated above: "If you don't think you fit into either category (perhaps you're neutral, a moderate, an independent or a libertarian like I am) and still want to comment please scroll to the bottom of the page and enter your comment there."

    • anonymous 3 years ago

      Down with the liberal/conservative elite! They're nothing but a libertarian pack of wolves. Bring back the populist movement, in the name of the people!! (Note: Since I'm being unjustly coerced into choosing a side just to post my opinion, please disregard the side I have "chosen. Thank you.")

    • anonymous 3 years ago

      Why are there so many conservatives getting away with collecting everything free they can get from the government while they spout their opinions against liberal views? I think we should discontinue all benefits to them, If they are so big on everyone paying for themselves & not anyone else who needs help, then we should let them do that. Have a job? Pay for your own way and stop being hypocritical.

    • anonymous 3 years ago

      My belief is that I don't really give a damn about queers, just keep that lifestyle diversity to yourself. My belief is that if you can't send a woman to jail for killing a baby while it is being born, you have no sense of criminal justice. My belief is that our military will have to be spent on to uphold our sins. My belief is that if kids want to have guns, maybe you should have them in a youth boot camp and training to serve the defense. My belief is that corporations that benefit from cheap labor provided by illegal immigrants should be pickled along with garlic and onions. My belief is that a country where black people call themselves niggers and white people can't is discriminating against white people. My belief is to deniggerize black folk; Stop being niggers and be decent black folk. And the government needs to create jobs, free market to the fire. My guess is that this makes me a socialist. Slava Rossija.

    • anonymous 3 years ago

      My personal belief is that the state should recognize a marriage between 2 consenting adults.

      My personal belief is that anything INSIDE a woman's body is her property and she is within her right to do whatever she wants to do with it.

      My personal belief is that no one in their right mind would want a weak military. Our military industrial complex is an extremely bloated jobs program creating weapons we don't need and are in danger of getting in the hands of bad people.

      My personal belief is that individuals should have a right to bear arms but also recognize that this country has a problem with gun violence. We need to take more steps to insure our safety.

      My personal belief is that corporations who benefit from cheap labor are mainly responsible for our problem with illegal immigration. Therefore nonviolent offenders should be allowed a pathway to citizenship (that includes fines).

      My personal belief is that though the Confederacy has been defeated it's not dead. As long as states like Mississippi continue to keep the Confederate battle flag (that's anti-american & pro slavery) as it's official state flag, Americans must admit that we still have a problem with discrimination in this country. Discrimination against different races, religions, sexual orientation and women are still invading our schools, businesses, media and government.

      My guess is that makes me a liberal. Peace everyone.

    • anonymous 3 years ago

      I'm pretty liberal progressive, because I only like to think about how things affect me, and not worry about how they affect everyone. When I was younger I was mostly liberal progressive because I kept being told that I could change the world one day, and so even then when I was able to easily see the overwhelming flaws with liberal progressive arguments I made them, because I thought that they would help me one day; you know when I change the world. As I got older and was going through school it was getting harder to keep hearing the obvious problems with liberal progressive arguments and still hold them, so I started self-deception, mainly through rhetoric. I started entering all convsersations and disscusions close-minded, telling myself that everyone who didn't think like me was a "capitalist", or "traditionalist". The close-minded tactic has worked pretty well, but now I'm older and realize that when they told me that I "could change the world someday, just through activism (and the implicit being a long-opressed, minority, open-minded, atheist)", they were lying. But after years of self-deception (and some help from the sacred MSNBC News) my brain has started to function that way, I have even developed some anti-white/anti-male/heterophobic/anti-religious-tendancies. My only hope now is that my kids (the ones who I chose not to abort because they inconvenienced me) can change the world, because I sure as hell didn't change the world. Now everyday I wake up and pray to the Obama statue on my nightstand (next to the Darwin portrait).

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      Everything, no matter how you look at it works or would work better if done the liberal way. Ethics my friends. Do you have them?

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      I'm a progressive liberal because I believe in, well, progress. You should only keep things the way they are if there's no better solution, not because you can't let go of the past. As for the government having control over us, we at least have control over our government in that we can vote corrupt leaders out. There is nothing we can do about corrupt businessmen that we are trapped working for and buying from. Tyranny, not government, is the true enemy and Big Business has replaced Big Government as the most sinister enemy of the people.

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      I think that the two-party system is remarkably detrimental to societal progress. Remove the social and cultural stigma associated with a separate "party" and I believe that only then shall we achieve our goals as a community. Pitting two groups against each other is more suited for the entertainment rather than mutual benefit. I am a dedicated American, I have no qualms with the country nor its people. But our current political agendas are warped, and it all starts with the people. We have to unite and show the government that we aren't here to fight each other, but to achieve solutions as a unit.

    • sethman1 4 years ago

      Grew in a conservative house but to my parents surprise they raised 3 socially liberal (moderate economically) kids. Just can't stand some conservatives with their rub some dirt on it methods bleh Liberals Ftw :)

    • jamesp420 4 years ago

      I tend to agree more with liberal viewpoints, but I'd really prefer us as a nation to find new ways of viewing our country, it's citizens and government, and how they affect each other. I'm so tired of the mindless, uneducated bickering. If I support something done by Obama's administration, conservatives automatically claim I must be an 'idiot communist' who wants Americans to lose their freedom. I support a move by conservatives and liberals instantly label me an 'uneducated bible-thumping hick.' While the majority of us are neither, media-biased hate has corrupted the otherwise sensible citizens of this country. Makes me so sad :(

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      I'd say libertarian like you. Same thing. Raised conservative became more liberal :-P

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      i am according to the quiz 50-50 but i believe that america should switch from a representative democracy to a full fledged democracy, but only if there are neutral mandatory politics polotics classes in school so people can make more educated decisions.

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      Aww us moderates are ignored by the extremes it a little frustrating. I believe in Christ like charity and the sanctimonious irritate me I believe in improving civil rights. I'm for health care reform but president Obama is doing it all wrong it will end up hurting more of the poor than it will help just my opinions.

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      When I was younger, 10-14 around that age, I was pretty right winged. Most of that came from my parents and grandpa, also the catholic school I went to. But as I grew up and started going to public schools I took a total u-turn and became a full fledged liberal. I believe that everyone no matter who you are should have the same rights as anyone else. No matter your race or sexual orientation or anything. I believe that the left side also has a better economic stand also, more government control is needed in our economy, yes you may think socialism is a totally bad thing, but for our environment and for the freedom of the people capitalism is not the way to go. Also higher taxes would help a lot, liberals aren't looking to tax the poor or even the middle class, but the upper class, who In turn are mostly democrats who are in favor of higher taxes. No matter what side you're on ill respect you and your opinions. Peace.

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      Social Issues: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal

      Personal Responsibility: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal

      Fiscal Issues: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal

      Ethics: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal

      Defense and Crime: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal

      I'm mostly a liberal, it seems. Other than when it comes to crime and defense.

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      I'm all over the place!

      Social Issues: 25% Conservative, 75% Liberal

      Personal Responsibility: 75% Conservative, 25% Liberal

      Fiscal Issues: 50% Conservative, 50% Liberal

      Ethics: 0% Conservative, 100% Liberal

      Defense and Crime: 75% Conservative, 25% Liberal

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      I lean the left but i also belive that you can look at it black and white because that will make no significant progress. you need to think what will better the united states in the now and how the economy is doing. educate and understand.

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      I am more of a libertarian, but i lean more towards liberal side

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      I support all liberal ideals. -Andrew Brennnan

    • shewins 4 years ago

      My views are pretty close to your going by the quiz you cited at the top of this page. In my opinion liberals have not defined themselves as being pro big government, conservatives have defined them that way. The old liberal values are more like what you have defined as libertarian. It's all about being free to pursue happiness unless you are harming others by doing so.

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      I used to consider myself to be conservative, until I got an education

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      I am a liberal but do not blindly support every liberal issue. I do feel liberals can go overboard with regulation and government handouts. But I like the fact that liberals are willing to provide a safety net to people who need it. On the other hand, I do like the conservative philosophy of smaller government and personal responsibility. But I feel conservatives tend to feel that everyone in this country starts out on a level playing field and therefore has an equal chance of making it successfully in this country, and if someone is struggling, well, it's their own fault so too bad for them.

    • anonymous 4 years ago

      The poll says about 50/50 sooo...Lets See... Less Government, less taxes, less military spending, less political polarization, Yes to TERM LIMITS!, less subsidies, less lobbying, less capitalistic social agendas and more opportunity available for all to take part in. I don't typically choose a side or party to affiliate with but try to take the best of situations and let them work for me.I also believe we have a social responsibility to our own.

    • Kathryn Grace 4 years ago from San Francisco

      This is always hard for me to take a side, because I'm a conservative in the sense that I believe we must conserve our resources and protect our freedoms, something I do not see anyone who espouses the label "conservative" doing today.

      The Republican party is so activist in its destruction of traditional freedoms today that I hardly think it can be called the party of Lincoln any longer.

      On the other hand, Democrats now stand where Republicans stood in the days of Reagan. If Eisenhower were running for office today, he'd be blasted as a flaming liberal!

      But I do believe in equality for all, even when another individual's or group's religion or personal lifestyle differ greatly from mine, and I work for social and environmental justice one way or another just about every day of my life, so I'll come down on the side of liberal for the sake of this poll.

    • incenseman 4 years ago

      You Are 10% Conservative, 90% Liberal that is what the survey said

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      I'm 100% a Liberal(even though I ABSOLUTELY HATE the government) I still believe in gun controll, don't support the death penalty(because the death penalty is for people who would like to solve problems using eye for an eye logic), I believe Gay marriage should be completely legal, and I have strong support in legal abortion.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      I guess I turned out to be more left wing (60% vs 40%). I just asnwered what I felt was right. All I want is equality and fairness and for those who cheat and abuse to be punished.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      "...come in and deplete our resources". This is funny. What is their definition of our? Those resources did not come from American soil, they came from all over the world and they were obtained through fair trade, either. Before I go on a rant regarding the ignorance we have about where and how we ascertain OUR resources, it's important to highlight that while progressives may seem overly hypocritical the same argument can be made for conservatives who claim consistently claim possession over things that are not theirs, like oil and other resources. How do they obtain possession? By force. What does "force", in this context mean? Genocide, imperialism, corruption, engendering coup de tats, supplying guerrillas, embargoes, enabling assistance or aid, etc. I am not in favor of letting everyone in, because it is not sustainable in our current paradigms. However, considering we are the most wasteful country in the entire world and most of our resources are stolen or swindled from other countries, if immigrants are coming here to repossess their resources, well I (we) can't really argue, logically, ethically, and equitably with that.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      I am neither a "liberal" or a "conservative". I am an independent thinker with liberal and conservative leanings in different arenas of concern. If its one thing that I think is harmful to this country it is all of the labeling that is going on which tends to pit one segment of society against the other, when really neither side is that far apart on many issues facing our nation.

      The moral majority of Americans seem more concerned about moral issues than the economy and the consequence is that we spend an inordinate amount of time talking about abortion and gay marriage and less time discussing what we can do to reduce the federal decific and create more jobs. And, undoubtedly, one of the biggest contributing influences in our ever-widening ideological divide are the conservative talk show hosts like Russ Limbaugh and Glen Beck who spend most of their time stirring up emotions and creating feelings of anger and hate among their listeners...peope who then go on to form extreme right wing organizations like the Tea Party and government hating militias. I think it's time for the American people to realize that very few of us are totally conservative or liberal and that there is a great need for all of us to take a hard look at what both sides represent and what the consequences of a Repulblican or Democratic controlled government would be. One question we should ask ourselves is would we be better off with a Democratic President and Democratic controlled congress or a Republican President and Republican controlled congress. Obviously, acccording to their platforms a Democratic controlled government would attempt to ennact more legislation with more programs to help the needy (which includes a lot of middle class Americans) while limiting the power of big business with, hopefully needed reform. It would also, hopefully, eliminate many of the tax loopholes that allow the rich and large corporations to avoid paying their fair share of taxes.

      A Republican controlled government, would reduce the amount of legislation coming out of congress. It would, if empowered, try to roll back Roe vs Wade and do away with all abortion, while overturning same sex marriage laws by amending the Constitution. They would extend the tax breaks for the rich and would do nothing to eliminate loopholes for large corporations, believing that somehow by paying less taxes we can all have more jobs and all the public services we want and need with little or not government intervention. They would also strike down Obama's health care law which would jeopardize the well-being of untold thousands of needy families while allowing the uninsured to continue using the hospital ERs for routine medical care at tax-payer expense.

      And, if we have a Democrat or Republican President and a divided congress...we will continue to have total gridlock and nothing will get done to solve our nation's problems. Just remember that no matter who is elected President of the United States, he or she can do nothing without the cooperation of Congress. So, if we want anything to get done or not done, as the case may be, we had better give one party or the other control over our government and then live with the consequences of our decisions.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      I am certainly more in line with the Democratic Party's thinking but I consider myself a socialist. I think we have give the large corporations WAY too much freedom. I'll give you a hint on where that happened. Housing crisis. The banks and corporations gave mortgages to people who made George Bush look stable (in other words they gave them to clearly irresponsible people). I'm sorry but your free-market had it's time and now is not inline with the current economic conditions and practices. We need to give people their basic needs to life. We also need to cut spending and raise taxes and use any remaining money to pay off our debt. We also need to get rid of the federal reserve or federalize it (that place is as federal as federal express). I will say this. The Republicans are right on a few issues like immigration.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      it is hard to choose one side because the liberal party makes some excellent points , but so does the conservative party. I confused because at first i am being told one thing then i am being told another

    • Normyo Yonormyo 5 years ago

      Humans should be able to choose freely as long as their choices do not infringe or restrict the choices of others.

      So a conservative who understands that people are free to choose as long as their choice does not hinder the choice of others is as much a liberal as a liberal who understands that you can not change everything just because you want to be able to have a choice.

      So maybe we should grow toward responsibles: liberal where it is needed, conservative where it is already good.

    • Jillynn 5 years ago

      I am a proud liberal!

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      I think fiscally we have to go through a revolving door. During an economic high, we should be making surpluses and spending less so we can get rid of any debt. We need to conserve our revenue to prepare for recessions. During an economic low, we need to spend more and stimulate the economy to kickstart productivity. It just so happens during our economic high, we added more to our debt and got rid of our surplus. Now we are in a difficult conundrum in which it would be harmful to spend anything because it'd increase our soaring debt. However, how are we going to stimulate the economy if we can't spend? That's when we decided to cut taxes and cut spending, and when we cut taxes we cut revenue, and when we cut spending we cut social programs. It just so happens nothing changes much when you introduce those policies. We need to give subsidies to more efficient energies, we need to tax corporations whilst making it easier for small businesses to get started, we need to adjust to this globalized economy by getting things started locally. More importantly, we need to vitalize communities and make an America where everyone works together to solve problems.

      I'm for the improvement of the middle class, I'm for the equality of all people, I'm for the betterment of education, I'm for efficiency and sustainability, and I'm for a healthy America. If that makes me liberal, then call me what you want. We can still cut spending if we want; I agree that our deficit is ridiculous. But when we do that we need to re-prioritize our budget: what needs cuts, what doesn't? That's when ideology vs. cold-hard-facts come in. Are we going to continue our outrageous spending in healthcare, or are we going to find a fiscally responsible way to insure those 40 million uninsured? Are we going to spend more money on wars and foreign involvement, or are we going to start concentrating on what's happening at home? Are we going to let our schools fall apart, or are we going to make sure counties don't have to cut budgets and fire employees? The private sector has been growing with over 4 million new jobs in the past four years, but the public sector has lost jobs. Are we really going to cut our public employees off? Are we going to fire teachers (the ones in charge of educating our future businessmen and women) to balance a budget?

      I believe in a sound budget. Reagan and the Bush family increased spending lavishly. Clinton gave us a surplus until it was trashed by W. And now these same exact people are for austerity and spending cuts, accusing Obama of being a big spender? Please. Our deficit reached the one trillion mark under Bush, not Obama. After that, the banks failed and we bailed them out. We also bailed out the auto industry, and Obama's spending STILL is increasing at a lower percentage than any other president in the past 30 years. The reason why I'm bringing up Obama is because the people on the right are going to extreme lengths to villainize him, calling him a 'socialist'. The fact of the matter is this: under Obama the private sector has grown, and the public sector hasn't. What's socialist about that? It's the people that are controlled by fear that are dividing and polarizing America. We didn't need labels until people made them a big issue, now the only thing conservatives do is bash liberals, and all liberals do is bash conservatives. Pretty soon nothing is about principle anymore, it's just about disagreeing with the other person. Instead of looking at each issue individually, all politicians do is see what the other guys says just so they can make sure they disagree. Washington is now full of ideologues, money, lobbyist prostitutes, money again, and lawyers.

      So in conclusion, labeling anyone conservative or liberal stuffs you and others into a category. It's a way to pigeonhole yourself and others before paying any regard to anything based on principle. Instead of adhering to an ideology then making decisions, make decisions and see where that puts you.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      Some very very long comments incorporating the very same cut and paste rhetoric that has been said millions of times before to no effect. The very idea that wealth is simply a matter of who is working the hardest is laughable. I simply don't believe that the CEOs paying themselves $25 million a year are working 833x harder than the person making minimum wage. We are human, corporations are run by humans and humans are inherently greedy (thanks to Ayn Rand and people like her). Sure, corporations, big business, are a necessary part of society. But corporations that used to consider labor and the interests of society on par with capital and profits, now only has the almighty dollar in mind. And then to even raise trickle down economics? Please. There is a way out. And that way is for shareholders to demand something more from the corporations that they own. And that something more is pay equity and fairness and demonstrated policies that address environmental and other societal concerns. There's certainly money to spare. Simply start paying the CEO $200,000 a year instead of $25 million and it's a done deal.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      I once told a conservative friend that since God put us both on earth, there must be reason. He doesn't make mistakes. I think liberals and conservatives are both here to serve as a counterpoint and check, one against the other. Conservatives are the stable foundation, the building blocks of we're we've been. Liberals are the dreamers, the platform for where we are going. Conservatives view responsibility on an individual basis. As long as individuals work hard and become productive members of society, and government stays out of the way, the rest will take care of itself. Liberals view responsibility on a societal level. Society has a responsibility to help those who can't help themselves, and if that means government becoming involved where society has failed, than that is the responsible thing to do. Conservative morality (admittedly viewed from the more out-spoken evangelical right) derives from a literal interpretation of the Bible. Thou shalt not kill (ie, abortion), covet thy neighbor's wife (sex outside of marriage, contraception issues), steal (taxes). For liberals, morality also comes from the BIble (love your neighbor as yourself), government safety nets; gay marriage, women's reproductive rights; thou shalt not steal (regulations to prevent corporate greed, fair labor laws). Conservatives want limited government but only in the areas that they want limited. They demand and will seek legislative solutions to expand government involvement and spending when it involves the military, or limiting women's reproductive choices, or the rights of gays to marry. The most confusing issue for me is how a conservative views rights provided to another as an infringement on their own personal liberties. For example, conservatives abhore gay marriage, although granting gays the right to marry has no effect on their own right to marry. Apparently, conservatives view "living in" a society that allows gays to marry as an infringement because they are forced to live in a society that does not conform to their conservative view of a moral society. You see this time and time again when a conservative will complain about gay marriage being "shoved in their face" whenever another state takes up the issue of legitimizing gay marriage. They want government out of their lives. But as to those who live in a manner they don't agree with? Not so much.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      I am mostly concerned with Justice. You are born... not much choice to whom, or where. You may be short tall, black white, male, female, or somewhere in the middle, smart, dumb, or somewhere in the middle, athletic, handicapped, rich poor. So Everybody gets together and decides... who gets to live. I am for rewarding smartness, when it leads to real discoveries and information about the world and real production of goods, inventions, information, or talent. I am against rewarding gambling and money manipulation since these do not contribute anything of actual value to humanity, and simply promote a type of fraud on the suckers who are not in on the game.

      As a liberal, I believe we are all...in the same boat, and the planet does not recognize boundaries. If I ship my pollution to china, I am still polluting. Similarly I believe that slave labor, sexual discrimination, war,torture, fraud, is equally evil over the borders, beyond my country as it is here. I believe it is inherently wrong to support and profit from child labor, relaxed safety and environmental laws, and slave wages in another country. I do not buy into the argument that those people are better off with 5 cents, when before they had 1 penny. I do believe that if we had remained a moral government, and put pressure on the leaders of the developing countries and refused to support their more corrupt leaders we could effect international change. Currently in our crony capitalistis we rake in the profits and then find the rationalizations for doing very immoral things with the populations who work for us... sickening.

      Although I believe there should be gradations in income, I believe a steeply progressive tax is necessary and morally correct to avoid the accumulation of power and influence of the very few over the many.

      With a steeply progressive wealth tax, earnings would lead to less speculation and more development, since there would be no benefit in rapid turnovers of money.

      Socially, I have my own spiritual beliefs, and they are none of anyones business. I don't want a theocracy. I feel that the choices I make with my body should be my own. As a woman , a middle class woman, I would choose to supply myself with contraception. As a Rape victim, I would like to see all men forced to take sulfer, or something to stop their sexual aggressiveness... either that, or allow me the access, and financial coverage to terminate an unplanned for, innappropriate , difficuIt pregnancy as efficiently and quickly as possible without the moral lecturing.. If I am to be forced to bear a child against my will then there should be financial compensation of some kind which would allow me to salvage both my own and my childs life.

      I am a nurse. Why should I give free care to a patient with delayed complications because he/ she didn't get preventive care. I would prefer to put my money into having everyone access health care, then in having weir distorted rates jacked up or hidden by hospitals doctors and insurance companies who are still treating patients, but, doing it too late. It is stupid.

      Last, but probably not least... I am educated, intelligent, and informed. I don't vote on whether someone drives a truck or can get drunk with me or wears a tight skirt, and skins an moose. We want our children to become educated and then we make fun of the people who are. I don't want a leader who "believes"... because for all I know they think the world is still flat. Please,,, give me an elected official who has read history, understands the significance and valiidity of the scientific method, and doesn't pull all of their ideas off talk radio. Proud to be Liberal..

      I would like everyone to own and be mandated to prove competence in gun ownership, as welll as maintenance and storage.

      I believe in the death penalty only if there is at this point genetic proof of guilt and it is carried out within a few months of the trial Otherwise, it is too prone to being in error, too expensive, ineffective as a deterrant, and dehumanizes those who have to execute it.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      The world isn't black or white nor there exists a fine line. Everything is burred into a mixing pot. To say that someone is liberal or conservative doesn't offer a whole lot of truth. The truth is everyone tends to have overlapping views and it stands somewhere in the middle. Only politicians uses the extreme term and draw a line.

      If you're dumb enough to follow Peter and his Piper into believing that it's them or you, then you've got some serious crap coming your way.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      What's confusing is that terms change. "Conservatives" support gun rights, but that is a liberal argument. What makes it conservative is that it is a strict interpretation of the Constitution. Also, terms like "Liberal Conservative" and "Conservative Liberal" are used all the time in Europe, but are considered oxymorons in America.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      Even modern so-called "conservatives" are liberals, though they treat the latter term as an epithet. How? They believe in some degree in all of the things that fundamentally define liberalism: freedom of thought, freedom to elect your own government, presumption of innocence, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of assembly, freedom from unreasonable state intrusion into one's personal life, and other freedoms.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      Our founding fathers left due to an overbearing monarchy that controlled an even more overbearing church of england. Or maybe it was vice versa. They thought for themselves and were willing to die to get away from elitist aristocratic snobs who used religion to control the poor. Doesnt sound like it happened so long ago, huh?

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      I believe in personal freedom, but also believe in personal responsibility. To have privilege, you must take on responsibility. There should be a flat tax, and everyone should pay a 13.5%, which will actually give the government more money than if 50% percent of the population pays 35%. With the more income that the government gets, they should spend it on education, health, making allies throughout the world, other social programs. Everyone deserves equal rights, gay marriage is fair and just, and everyone should be able to have a roof over their head, a doctor to go to and food in their stomachs.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      The first thing I look for in a leader is apparent self-awareness. One who is aware of their limitations is not likely to boast otherwise. In the end, a leader who acts as best they can in the face of adversity and is honest about their mistakes is far superior to one who always votes the same, holds to doctrine...in short, Honesty leaves no room for fundamentalism.  If you are true to your values, and your values aren't contrary to mine, you get my vote. But here's the catch: it is extraordinarily rare to find someone who is both able AND willing to accept the mantle of leadership under these criteria. Politics is about perception, perception is about opinion, opinion is manipulatable, manipulation requires dishonesty. 

      Douglas Adams summarizes: "it is a well-known fact that those people who want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it. To summarize the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job. To summarize the summary of the summary: people are a problem."

      I couldn't get Douglas to approve the quote, as he's out to lunch. But I'm sure he won't mind =)

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      i believe that the people have the right to control their own bodies and make thier own choices.

    • Edutopia 5 years ago

      Using the generally accepted definitions of the terms as it relates to American politics I'm neither but I'd more closely relate to liberals than conservatives.

      As an aside, looking at the requirements you put in place for post approval I'm surprised you let brennu's post through considering how inflammatory it is.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      I never wanted to be put in a box.

      I used to listen to William F Buckley, sometimes agreed and mostly disagreed with him. He could always make a good case for his position.

      Recently one of my Republican friends said Bucklet was too liberal. Today I am closer to Buckley so in todays world that makes me a liberal, how weird.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      I'm not into labels, and the two sided spectrum is faulty, but as a Canadian I'm a Progressive Participatory Social Democrat - I believe strongly in referendums, and I believe in a laissez-faire social policy and subsidies for small business as well as blocking of mergers, as well as "New Deal" government spending on educational institutions and infrastructure.

      In Canada I support the NDP, who would be far to the left of the Democrats. If you see things on a scale with Communism on the left, Capitalism on the right and Socialism in the centre, I would be in the centre. In America I would vote for Ralph Nader or not vote at all, because any system limited to two political parties in undemocratic and corrupt.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      I like to keep an open mind to BOTH sides.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      i was raised on the liberal side. my parents are both immovable democrats except for when it comes to abortion and gay marriage(my dad is from Africa and they don't mess around with homosexuality there) up until about 9th grade i always followed the democratic party and was proud to be one of the few liberals in my school and i absolutely despised conservitives (and religion for that matter) then somewhere along the line i thought "why do conservitives think the way they do, it must be because they sponge up whatever thair parents teach them, idiots" it wasthen that i realised that i had. done the exact same thing i decided to stop being so one sided about things and started thinking for myself. i still have more liberal beliefs (anti-war, pro-choice, gay rights, and some govt funded programs like welfare) however i find myself agreeing with conservitivs on issues like praying in school(i don't see the problem if a kid wants to pray to his personal hod before a test), i am anti-military but i am hugely pro-soldier and veteran (how. can i disrespect the. people who are willing to. take a bullet for me). like you i feel immense pride for my country (its the people inside it i cant stand) and will never have any respect for rapists, mass murdurers, and child/spousel abusers. i would never subject a man to death but i beleive these people shroud be either exiled to some godforsaken place after having the sever [explitive] out of them. so put me under liberal but don't classify me as either.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      I used to identify as conservative until I realized conservatives are just scared. I used to feel uptight and unwilling to see any other way about social issue like gay marriage, abortion, etc. Now when I think about it, why should I try to control what other people do with their own lives? I believe we should leave people to decide what they do with their own lives and bodies. Now that I'm more liberal, I feel more open, fun loving, and just an all around more peaceful person.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      I am an old school Liberal. I believe in working for a living, keeping America safe from foreign aggression and a government that protects the common citizen from the predators of capitalism. We need labor laws, equitable treatment off all citizens and an equal voice for all regardless of social class. We need laws that curtail corruption, even at the expense of corporate profits. I believe in the freedom to choose and not have morality imposed on me by another's religious beliefs. I believe in product liability laws. If a product harms me or my family, I have a right to sue and potentially put the company out of business. I have a right to collective bargaining and to have a union negotiate my wages and working conditions. I have a right to live in way that harms nobody else. I have a right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I have a responsibility to pay taxes, vote and serve my country in a time of need. I have a responsibility to advocate for my less well off neighbors and to help them. All taxes are a redistribution of wealth and I proudly pay my full share. My goal is for America to be the best place on earth for all of our citizens.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      I am liberal when it comes to the Utalitarian aspect, most good to most people. I am studying to be a nurse and public health is my interest. in public health and even during disasters, healthcare personnel cannot pick and choose who to help based on immigrant status or property or income. everyone becomes equal when it come to helping those that are in need.

      in that sense I am a liberal.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      I'm a mix of libertarian and liberal. I believe in gay marriage, gay adoption, the right of gay people to serve in the military, anti-discrimination laws, removal of the Confederate Flag from public property, and affirmative action, because the most important thing to me is equality for all people regardless of race, gender, or sexual orientation. My second most important political value is the freedom of the individual from excessive government. Based on this, I oppose national health care, selective service, the Patriot Act, the War on Drugs, the bailouts, uniforms in public schools, censorship, and the proposed border fence. So you could call me a liberaltarian, a Charles Sumner Republican, a small government liberal, or a social liberal-fiscal conservative.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      I don't like to label myself, politically or otherwise, but I would call myself a social liberal if only in the sense that I see myself as being open-minded, welcoming change and progress rather than holding a stringent worldview. I believe in personal freedom with personal responsibility and compassion for fellow humans. Change is constant, whether we welcome it or not, bad or good. I tend to see conservatism (socially) as a backwards way of thinking, trying to return to some mythical golden age before modern society. I think of it as a close minded point of view as pertains to morality, religion, science and progress. Though I agree with the classic liberal political stances on some issues, I also agree with the conservative views on others. People are complex and everyone's worldview is unique based on their own personal experiences. I just choose to always err on the side of compassion and open-mindedness. I think these things are what makes humans great, and what makes the US great.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      just so you know, Libertarian often referring to economic/ social theory of limited government.

      A libertarian opposes to both border protection and customer/worker protection because market should decide their work conditions.

      American liberation would oppose government backed health care to the poor and elderly like social security, madicare and medicaid (because private charity should take care of the poor).

      the idea is that if you didn't save money for retirement because you only had low income or you lost your pension because your company bankrupted, it's still your responsibility, not one else, to survive in your old age. But you don't have to pay anything for others, either. It will encourage personal investment and discourage laziness, is the idea, too.

      So libertarians wouldn't support any tax expenditures including mortgage and childcare and education deductions while they wouldn't regulate credit default swaps, packaged bonds based on hidden toxic assets because free markets should solve itself out of booms and busts on its own.

      is that what you also believe? PS Ron Paul is quasi libertarian. Alan Greenspan is a traditional libertarian who studies under Ayn Land.

      I respect most of libertarian ideas except for its (in my opinions) lack of human right supports and setting up equal opportunities by laws.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      I was a Goldwater republican in the 60's and by God I think he would turn over in his grave if he saw the new breed of conservative scum. I'm now a liberal democrat!

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      Right now I don't really know what I am. I was once a conservative, at the time I was still a christian, but now my eyes are more so open. I think I am a liberal and/or a libertarian in the true meaning of the words. Right now I am thinking of becoming a politic because all the things I am passoniate about and I want to make a difference. I am only a freshman in high school, but I see, no matter how many times people call me 'just a child', that things need to change. No matter what we think we should all have tolerance for each other. We should just agree to disagree. I don't really know what that makes me. All I know is that I refuse to back down. I don't know where life will take me, but I hope where ever it is, wether I am a liberal or conservative or nether, that I make a difference for good. And from what I have read so far I highly agree with you.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      Liberals care for the environment, the hungry, homeless, woman, children education healthcare for all. Still hold themselves responsible we do work have jobs own homes go to church some not all also just as conservatives do we have no issue with giving the extra we have for those less fortunate than us.

      Why does the christian right consider themselves conservative when Jesus was a liberal.

      Liberals are those who think of others before himself when he does not pollute the earth for the future generations, cares and helps the sick, the homeless, the hungry, the prisoner, and educates others to teach more tolerance of others not like them. ( The more you know about something the less you fear it) "The poor you will always have with you" Jesus . Understand not all poor are there because of their own doings it is because of fate. We know we must show mercy compassion and tolerance of others no matter who we are even that bum on the street.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      Our problem is not between the political parties. It's poor citizenship. Our government leaders are like children. Weren't taught to get along with others. Nothing wrong with our U.S. Government. It's achieved great things in the past. But was done with our elected officials working together, compromise, for the good of the people..Of the people, by the people, for the people..Not for the few..I think they all need a good Civics class.....

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      I call myself a mad-dog liberal because I will defend the liberal cause and ideology like a mad dog (I even have a blog by the same name). I'm also opposed to terrorists, serial killers, child and spouse abusers, I think you'd find that most liberals are opposed to those things. I do support having a much more open immigration policy. I'm of Polish and Irish descent, my people could not have become citizens if we'd been so opposed to immigrants "depleting our resources." If you're not of Native American descent, I think you should be tolerant of immigration. Being liberal and being tolerant doesn't mean accepting any of that.True liberals fight to protect the down-trodden, extend equality. It was liberals who established unions, Civil Rights and gave women the vote. Liberals abolished slavery and child labor in sweatshops. Liberals demanded regulation and advocacy for safe work environments and food and drug standards. I will share all I can, my resources, knowledge, culture and hope that others will do the same.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      Social liberal

      I am a social liberal. I believe society has a obligation to improve the living conditions for all of its members. At one time in America it was taken for granted that people shouldn't starve, that living in the streets was a bad thing, that free education for everyone was good, and that no one should suffer needlessly from a treatable medical condition. It would appear that no days the people of the United States no longer care enough about each other to support those ideals. Instead we have created a situations where the top earning individuals and the corporations are allowed to 'opt out' of their responsibilities to the republic. In my view this is wrong.

      As a social liberal I am well aware that individual rights are never to be denied for any reason -- even in the name of 'security'. Because of this I am willing to let the current debate in congress run its course and let the nation decide what our priorities should be. But, as a social liberal I am prepared to abandoned this nation should it decide to turn its back on its own people in the name of personal and corporate greed.

      We have an obligation to each other, a obligation to see that no one starves, that no one lives in the street, that no one suffers needlessly, and that everyone has a free education. That is what I believe. Anything less would be unthinkable.

    • anonymous 5 years ago

      Regarding social issues I'm Liberal because the government doesn't have the right to tell people that they can't euthanise themselves, or marry a person of the same sex. I find it amusing that Conservatives say that Liberals and their big governments decrease individual freedom, however they are ready to base their government on christianity, which frowns upon any other kind of thought.

      What conservatives don't understand is that there will always be a kind of authority in any kind of society. This means that if the government weakens its influence, the influence of corporations increases. Corporations want money, while the government and it's politicians want not only votes, but want to help the population. Think about it this way; the politicians are accountable to the voters, while the big business leaders are accountable to no one, except their shareholders who only want MONEY.

      There's much more to say, but that's just what came to mind.

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      Liberals want to progress and conservative want to keep everything the same. Keep some traditions are fine, but do not push it on to me. I live in Oregon, what more can I say.

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      liberal/progressive

    • Tolovaj Publishing House 6 years ago from Ljubljana

      I don't think anybody is only conservative or liberal in all aspects of life. I have seen declared liberals with extremely conservative views on some issues and some conservatives with pretty liberal opinions on some controversial stuff...

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      I guess I'm kinda Liberal. Giving to the rich and the corporations will not help the poor. We need social security to be government run, not run by corporations who only care about themselves. This is just my opinion. Corporations cannot help poor people to any great extent. Yes corporations do help some poor people but in the end bosses of corporation will think about how to make more money for themselves. I'm a liberal because I believe in personal freedoms. Giving Gays and Lesbians civil right, Protecting the poor from the Rich/corporations, Helping poor/underprivliged people vote without the fear of voting opression, Teaching evolution not myths in schools, Stopping globil warming bfore it's too late, Giving anti-discrimination laws to LGBT people, Increasing the minimuim rage, Helping workers union, giving tax cuts for the poor and giving tax hikes for the rich and corporations. I'mma Democrat and I'm 80% liberal. But that's just me.

    • Nicole Pellegrini 6 years ago from New Jersey

      I'm a liberal in the *traditional* sense of the word but not how it is used in today's political arena. Like you I found myself more comfortable with the Libertarian viewpoint: stay out of my business unless I'm hurting someone, give me the freedom to make myself and to help others, keep government small but don't fall into complete anarchy, either. I think it's a shame there's not more room for social liberal/fiscal conservatives these days in politics.

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      i dont want big government i want fair government, and less taxes and deregulation only help the big corporations thats why all the jobs are going to china average chinese worker makes 14000 a year and everybody saw there air quality at the olympic games so wake up people no more free trade

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      liberals and conservatives often trash each other for the same things the other side is doing. The problem I have with conservatism is that it holds too fast to traditions and ideologies of the past. As Frank Zappa said, "without deviation, progress is not possible". I think this is true and that conservatives prevent progress due to their refusal to change with the times.

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      I'm only fourteen years old but I'm really into politics and I have to say I'm very left leaning. I think that the governent should help care for it's citizens (welfare and whatnot), instead of letting them fend for themselves. Also, even though I'm Liberal, I'm very religious (not Christian, but Unitarian Universalist, a religion that believes all that believe in a higher being and live a generally good life go to 'Heaven'. Now I don't think it's fair that conservatives want to keep the church and state together, because religion and politics are pike ice cream are like ice cream and crap; putting ice cream in crap doesn't make crP better. Also they somewhat promote a national religion which I don't think should be around. Also they condemn gays even when there is scientific proof that being gay is inherited, anyway why would somebody choose to be part of a group that's discriminated against so much?

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      If a liberal thinks thinks that something violates thier religion such as abortion,they abstain until marriage and then use protection until they are ready to start a family.

      If a conservative thinks that something violates thier religion such as abortion,they want it banned.

      When a liberal sees a failing school they think" How can we fix this school?"

      When a conservative sees a school not working they think" How can I take the well behaved kids out of that school and get them in a private for profit program?"

      When there is an oil spill a liberal thinks it is a horrible tragedy to our environment and could have lasting consequenses for our children.

      When there is an oil spill a conservative thinks" Hey man we gotta eat and food gets to me from trucks and trucks run on gas. Stuff happens man!"

      When the economy collapses liberals blame banks and corporate greed.

      Wen the economy collapses conservatives say that taxes are to high.

      When a corporation puts a badly made product on the market and people get hurt or die,liberals band together and sue the company or bring their mismanagement to light.

      When a corporation puts a badly made product on the market and people get hurt or die,conservatives say that liberals are making to big a deal out of it even if someone they know was hurt.

      Liberals decry real morality issues such as poverty, war and biggotry.

      Conservatives decry fake morality issues such as porn, vilolent video games and reverse discrimination.

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      Conservatives are constantly trying to justify selfishness. Conservatives blame the media and outside influences for school shootings, yet they think its okay to have people walking the streets with machine guns. They easily forget that this is a country built on immigrants, and believe they shouldn't be allowed in. Flash back decades ago, and we had the Nativist party who wanted to keep Irish and Germans out. Now those Irish and Germans are fighting to keep Middle Easterners and Hispanics out. Ironic. Oh yea, and they are constantly trying to force Christian ideals on everyone, and don't believe in happiness for gay people. They also think Big Corporations should get tax breaks to create jobs. How did those tax breaks work out? Oh yea, Biggest recession since the early 1900's, less creating jobs, more about ten houses, 50 cars, eating caviar and frivolity. This is why I am a Liberal Progressive. I am proud.

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      Liberal - we see to enlighten the nation as whole ,we see bigger picture and are not self -centered .

    • ChristineRenee LM 6 years ago

      Yeah, I'm a liberal! I think the main difference is whether you think the world is changing for the better or for the worse. I think it's (mostly) changing for the better.

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      Instead of progressive vs conservative, we should be looking at liberty vs government control. Once you understand EXACTLY what government is (it is force) then you can figure out logically when it is OK to use force. Individuals can justify using force to defend themselves and deal with criminals. They can NOT justify using force to FORCE their neighbors to buy health insurance, FORCE them to pay for the local government school, FORCE them to pay money into a ponzi scheme retirement system (social security)...etc...etc. "Government is not eloquence...it is not reason...it is force..." G. Washington

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      Just like the author, I have always considered myself a classical liberal. But, like the author, people often misunderstand when I say that I'm a hard-core liberal. I have only one rule: Do not breach the consent of another human. I'm all for gun ownership--any gun you like. I'm all for legalizing EVERYTHING with the stipulation that an individual or group may not breach the consent of another individual or group. Here's a better (and more accurate) way to look at it: If a person A wants to do something and person B wants to stop them, then person B must make the case that someone's consent is being breached by person A's actions. Religious bias is a major factor in the USA. It is pervasive in the laws of the land. Drug laws. Prostitution. Bans on gay marriage. Gambling. etc etc etc. Logical deduction reveals (try it sometime) that there are no logically justifiable arguments for banning these or any other activities. Banning interpersonal consent breaches, however, is logically justifiable. So, long story short, most people would call me a "libertarian" but I never really looked at it that way. But come to think of it, civil liberties are what I'm about.

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      Lets face it, the long-term trend of humanity has been a progressive one, to say the least. Unless you live in a repressed totalitarian or theocracy ruled country you may hold conservatism as the long term trend. I have the sneaking suspicion that many conservatives on occasion cannot help but to wonder, âwho moved my cheeseâ as the world changes around them.

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      I'm a Liberal, and I am a bit offended by your last part of comparing Liberal and Conservative. I assume you are conservative, and you can't speak for all of us. If I fall, I won't be happy, I'm not going to laugh, but I won't sue. And sense I'm Canadian, I'm used to gun control and bans, unlike you Americans. And yes, I think homosexuals deserve respect. All these conservatives and their religious moral values seem always against LGBT people. They should be able to live their lives normally, loud and proud of being attracted to the opposite sex, without facing criticism or certain anti-gay marriage laws. I also hope that someday Atheism is promoted throughout the US and the world, and will become dominant, abortion is fully legal, and advancement in stem cell and medical research, and other technologies will progress. The rest you stated, I don't agree with and I will stand by my claims.

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      Do you really want to know where you stand? There's a really good test to find out - Google for Political Compass. On the joke - you're right about Conservatives forwarding it and having a good laugh and that Liberals will probably delete it. Unfortunately, Conservatives really believe that kind of thing whereas a Liberal looks at it and says "That's not true!" to every single line. The thing is, even the Conservative side of it isn't true for the most part.

    • Greenwickpress 6 years ago

      I am a moderate who leans more towards the liberal side. I am also a student of history who finds cries of Socialists! and Fascists! to be disturbing. If we go about shouting that terrible plots are happening when they aren't, we will not be paying attention if something sinister actually does happen.

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      "If you don't support your government blindly, and go to war for no apparent reason, then you're a liberal hippy." "If you're a white american and actually want all people of any color to have the same rights as you, then you're a liberal hippy." These are basically the two big arguments that make up the conservative party. It's a political party built completely off of ethnocentric ideals which many have come to describe as a fascist party and it's allowed to work for now because America is still 75% caucasian. As the demographics of this country even out more and more, you will see the republican party disappear or completely change is values, which is more likely. Bunch of sell outs is what politicians are.

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      Your characterization of Progressives is inaccurate. Some of the biggest progressives are actually very fiscally conservative. They want a budget surplus, with social projects and investments being funded by cuts to military spending (not defense), increasing taxes on wealthy individuals and large corporations and making government more efficient. Your characterization seemed dishonest. Progressives have been on the right side of most issues I can think of, from unions, regulatory agencies, GI Bill/FHA to gay rights, legalizing pot, rescinding Citizens United and the environment. But then again, a progressive is not an officially defined class- so it's a pointless conversation as we could easily talk past one another

    • Toothpaste4Cat 6 years ago

      I would consider myself to be a progessive liberal however, I would disagree with your initial analysis of what exactly constitutes a "progressive." Progressives are simply for PROGRESS in government and its respective policies but are more open to what forms that progress can take - big gov't, small gov't, but always SMARTER gov't. Personally, I'd like to see the US swallow it's pride a bit and start implementing some of the ideas that seem to be working well in other countries in terms of financial regulation, infrastructure, and definetly education! Good work on your page!

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      I'm liberal, but I don't go around "shoving my views in others faces." I hate when people, not just conservatives, (I've seen liberals do it too) try to force their views upon others.

      Many of you, by making that generalization, saying, "I hate how liberals" or "I hate how conservatives", just makes you seem narrow-minded. Maybe the majority of conservatives are stubborn as hell and won't hesitate to try and prove you wrong, and maybe the majority of liberals like to try and force their opinions and views upon you.

      No matter what you believe to be right or wrong, being narrow-minded and making generalizations about groups of people makes you just as low as those you're trying to insult.

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      Your generalizations are not very believable. Gun control hans't been an issue since the 90's. Most liberals just want to keep them out of the hands of unsupervised kids, crazies and criminals-legal possession is not an issue. Your view that liberals sue more is ridiculous and has no basis in fact. Biggest complaint us liberals have is how easily manipulated conservatives are by corporations, ideologues and made up facts. The middle-class is dying and your just helping the ruling class bury the working family.

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      I'm so far left, I think Obama should run as the Republican candidate in 2012. To go from having a surplus under Clinton to the Bush years... It's honestly scary.

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      Im a liberal, and I would like to make this argument on healthcare:

      Many people use the term 'socialist' when they discuss healthcare as a bad thing, but there are actually many places in our laws where we use 'socialist' means to help our citizens as a whole. Public schools, road construction, police force. All paid for with taxes, and then those taxes go back in to benefit everyone.

      Fire department is often the same way, but there was a case recently where the department tried doing it different, where anyone who wanted fire department coverage paid a fee, instead of a mandatory fee. Then, a mans house caught on fire. Fire fighters showed up, no one put it out because the man didnt pay the fee that year, though he had in years previous, and it turned out to be an error on his part and not intentional. All of his animals died. The fire was put out once the other houses caught on fire. Can you imagine if someone was in the house, unconscious, and no one knew? If they died, is that murder? What if there is a problem in the paperwork, and it turns out someone DID pay the fee, but it looks like they didnt. Then their house burns down, they sue, and all the taxpayers have to pay for it, including those who pay the firefighters fee, and they end up paying MORE for it anyways.

      Healthcare is not unconstitutional. Taxes are designed to got back into the system to help the majority of people. I am a 26 year old freelance designer with outstanding conditions. I work more than 50 hours a week I pay taxes, and I can't get healthcare. Not only that, but the taxes I pay go on to pay for healthcare for state and federal employees. So not only do I not have my own, I have less money to help myself with when I get hurt or sick.

      Here are some other situations using the same arguments against healthcare that people use often:

      I chose to live in a good neighborhood, and I dont use police. Why should I have to pay for people who chose to live in bad neighborhoods? I shouldnt have to pay for police if I dont use them.

      I dont have to drive very far to work, and I never visit other parts of the state. Why should I have to pay for road construction I will never use?

      You can see where it gets out of hand. I know many people dont want their money to go towards people who dont work, but we have to realize that unemployment is not because people are LAZY. While I dont like Obamacare where it stands now, to repeal it would be a bad idea. Yes, its going to be a long overhaul, and yes, its going to cost a bit more in the beginning, but we need to stop doing short term fixes to everything in our economy.

      Short term fixes is why our economy is in such a bad shape anyways. We need to employ long-term fixes that benefit us in the long haul while we have the means to do it now. If we dont, we will get to a point where we cant do long term fixes at all, and that means we will never be able to rise beyond a certain point, and thats how countries fall.

      Supports your views and beliefs. Your views should come before your party. I do not stick with the liberal party just because I am a liberal. I totally supported federal funding being withdrawn from abortions - people shouldnt have to pay for things that are against their views. Im not going to be a stickler to SPITE other people.

      Conservatives, please try to think of your country before your party. People are being stubborn simply because they can, and the Republican party is suffering because of it. The more you work with the president and the other party, the more trusting of you we become, and that will benefit you when you need something down the line.

      This whole country is fu**ed if we can work together.

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      I am a liberal, and while I see the value of conservative wisdom my beliefs are more in line with liberal values concerning individual freedom, expression, social investment and foreign policy. I believe that too often we rigidly define ourselves rather than have open and honest discussion on taking a positive direction towards the future.

      One major problem towards achieving this goal are major generalizations the two 'sides' make towards one another, which at their most absurd state that conservatives are war mongering fascists and that liberals are government mongering fascists. Such ridiculous condemnation serves no good whatsoever.

      I cannot speak for other liberals, but I feel the need to address the popular condemnations listed above:

      "Liberals want to keep the borders open and allow illegal immigrants to come in and deplete our resources while letting drug dealers, criminals, and potential terrorists enter freely."

      I have yet to meet a liberal who believes this. It is more accurate to state that liberals believe that it should be easier to enter the country legally, and that illegal immigrants who are born in the United States should have the opportunity to become legal citizens despite their parents breaking the law. However, this is by no means the extent to which the problem of illegal immigration should be dealt with. Many immigrants come to the west to make money for their families, even breaking the law to do so. Present steep restrictions on work visas encourage large underground human smuggling, which actually makes it easier for criminal groups to sneak in. I believe people who want honest work should have an easier time obtaining work visas so they have a chance to potentially work towards full citizenship and the greater opportunities that entails for their children, avoiding any criminal stigma. This is of course an ideal, but immigration has become less strict over the decades and opening up to more immigrants has been a positive rather than a destructive influence, I believe.

      "They refuse to drill for more oil within the US on a pretense of protecting the environment, and let us continue to depend on foreign oil while at the same time gas prices keep rising, driving up prices of other goods."

      Recent events have shown us just how dangerous oil drilling can be for the environment, as oil spills can destroy entire ecosystems, which in turn destroys fishing markets and many related industries. Beyond that though, oil is a resource that is not renewable, and mining these reserves would only delay the inevitable increase in oil prices. With the technical expertise that is currently available, hybrid cars and other forms of energy are now becoming viable, and if cultivated to their full potential look like they may start a global energy revolution. The oil should remain an option, but new energy sources are a better way to employ skilled professionals and form long term market opportunities.

      "This one is a biggie: liberals want more government control on our lives which is just the opposite of promoting individual freedom."

      This is an outright lie, and is in fact virtually the same 'government control' argument many angry liberals make about conservatives! Who wants the government to control their destiny?Nobody! Liberals want the government to ensure that monopolies do not form, that workers have their legal rights respected, and that domestic industries receive government protection from foreign competition (since outsourcing is otherwise a much cheaper option). Liberals also want to ensure that people are payed equally for doing the same jobs, and otherwise enjoy the same rights and freedoms. I believe that SOME government intervention in these areas serves as the insurance of social freedoms and the growth of domestic business. I also believe, as I'm sure everyone else does, that the government should be accountable to the people in everything it does.

      There is of course a lot more to talk about, but I shall conclude by stating that liberals, conservatives, and people who hold views somewhere in between, are all needed to make democracy work. Wisdom becomes stale if it is drawn from once source, and while I stand by what I believe I remind myself that others possess wisdom drawn from different years of experience. It is my hope that we can all have honest and respectful debates about these issues, putting aside our passions for the benefit of all.

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      As a 21 year old college senior from Portland Oregon, I have always wondered where I fit into the many facets of political and personal beliefs and values. I believe everyone has their own experiences which shape who they are and become. The intrinsic values I have developed at a young age led me to have strong since of family freedom and with acceptance of cultures and tolerance of social enormities a balance between thinking out of the box and working hard to obtain my goals. I have further gone on to gain an understanding the value in not having to worry about where my next meal comes from; A result in those who in the past fought for the United States in different wars and defend our nation today allowing people like myself to reap the benefits of their prosperity. I am apart of a country which prides its' self on being "The Best". I think focused attention to educate youth to think outside the box that there are several ways to get from start to finish, yet still keep the strong back bone the handwork and sacrifice is a must to achieve successful. I think this new century calls for a balance between two contrasting ideals in order to maximize the potential of our generation and future generations after us.

    • Julianne Gentile 6 years ago from Cleveland, Ohio, US

      You are brave for posting this. I generally keep my far left, liberal views to myself, especially among my very conservative family, and some of the ugliest debates I've seen on Facebook have been about this topic. :)

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      I've took the test and the results are: I'm 45% Conservative and 55% Liberal. Yes I am proud to be a Liberal because I am open minded and believe in individual freedom. Some of my opinions may seem contradictory to my beliefs, however; it's my opinion... I don't believe in gay marriages because I believe a man and a woman is the true sanctity of a marriage. Why would anyone want to get married now a days, when the divorce rate is over 50% in America? Whether a person is gay or straight, do people get married for true love or do they marry for benefits? So why change sanctity of marriage now. Gay couples can be together and live a long and happy life. As far as illegal immigrants... I think there is no tangible way of putting a stop to illegal immigration because building fences along the US/Mexican border will not stop illegals from coming into America. Legal immigrants came to America to live the "American Dream" but those immigrants went through a long process of getting their green card, getting the Naturalization, work hard for a living and eventually become a U.S Citizen by taking the Citizenship test. It is unfair that illegal immigrants come to America and get free handouts from the government in terms of health care, schooling, housing, and welfare. In addition, the population in America is growing exponentially and not enough houses are being build to accommodate both legal and illegal immigrants. Nevertheless, by controlling illegal immigration well help stop the overpopulation in America. As for as Big Corporation and industrial companies, there should be more regulation on how much waste and pollution they can produce. Sustainability and renewable energy should be implemented and they should practice more Corporate Social Responsibilities. America is build on Capitalism and making profit, but harming the environment for a higher margin and revenue is unjustifiable.

      I have much more commentaries to debate about but this would take ages...

      This is my 2 cents and I hope the government doesn't tax me for what 2 cents I have left.

    • zombievsrobot 6 years ago

      Lifelong Liberal, the right terrifies me.

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      I would have to say that i am a liberal, I believe that government should be there to help those who need it but still i believe that we should have freedom. I believe that what you do in the privacy of your own house is what you do in the privacy of your own house!!! If people want to sell their bodies to get money then they should be allowed to do so.....If people want to do drugs(Crack, Cocaine, Meth, Marijuana...etc) then they should be allowed to do so. I think that America should be free for whoever wants to be an american. I have a lot more to say but don't want to take up the whole page so if you would like to comment and get in a friendly argument please email me at cmwheel11@yahoo.com

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      I am a conservative with liberal views. Mr. Beck, you are right on!!

    • anonymous 6 years ago

      I'm a libertarian. Basically I think the government should help people who are unable and in cases where individual citizens can't help themselves, but allow for maximum possible individual freedom.

      One thing I will say is that I don't know how conservatives can pretend to be for individual rights when the majority of them don't support gay marriage. Seriously, what?

      My views if anyone cares:

      Abortion

      Unborn children are people too. Abortion should only be allowed very early on, and under no circumstances should the government pay for abortions. Itâs their fault they became pregnant, not the governmentâs â and the taxpayerâs â fault. #sure

      Affirmative Action

      The government should take every effort to provide equal benefits for all races and sexes. #unsure

      Death Penalty

      Under certain circumstances, such as premeditated murder, torture-murders, or multiple murders, the death penalty is an appropriate punishment. Donât dish it out if you canât take it. However, the death penalty should NEVER be used if the guiltiness of the accused is in question. Physical evidence, such as multiple eye witness accounts, definitive video and audio evidence, and/or a confession is absolutely required. #sure

      Economy

      It is necessary for the government to intervene in certain situations. Individuals simply cannot defend themselves from the power of huge corporations. #sure

      Education

      I donât know what I think of vouchers. #unsure

      Stem cell research

      Embryonic stem cells can be used in research. The cell has few features of a human. However more focus should be put into adult & umbilical cord stem cell research. #unsure

      Energy

      Oil and coal kill the environment, create pollution, and are unsustainable. Clean energy research is vital to the health of our nation. #sure

      Assisted Suicide

      Assisted suicide should be legalized. A person should not be forced to suffer through the last few months of their existence. Funds could be re-routed to other patients (or research) who could actually benefit. However government oversight is necessary so insurance companies donât try to force suicides. #sure

      Global Warming/Climate Change

      Is this really a problem? Pollution is a problem. It leads to birth defects and destruction of the natural environment. Pollution needs to be controlled. #sure

      Gun Control

      Gun control laws do not prevent criminals from obtaining guns; they just prevent law-abiding citizens from being able to defend themselves. All citizens (barring circumstances such as dangerous criminals) should be allowed to own guns; however there is no need for citizens to own such heavy weaponry as cal machine guns and heavy artillery, so those should be outlawed. #sure

      Health Care

      Many individuals cannot afford health care â and itâs not necessarily their fault. Yes to health care. #sure

      Homeland (Airport) Security

      While it may be true that certain groups are more likely to be terrorists, there is no way to profile them without violating their dignity and respect. No profiling. #unsure

      Immigration

      Illegal immigrants are breaking the rules to gain an unfair advantage over those who follow the rules. This is unfair. However, blanket arrests, deportations, and racial profiling are also unfair. The immigration systems needs and overhaul to allow more people into the US faster, as citizens, with all the rights and responsibilities that come with that title. #unsure

      Private Property

      Eminent domain is only acceptable in certain situations. This does include private interests, profitable interests, or structures that could easily be moved elsewhere. #sure

      Religion

      Religion has no place in the government and only leads to conflict and hatred. NO, PERIOD. #sure

      Same-Sex Marriage

      There is not a single good reason for not allowing same-sex marriage. #sure

      Social Security

      I do not understand this issue fully. #unsure

      Taxes

      Higher taxes on the extremely wealthy, that is for sure. Checks and balances need to be put in place to make sure people donât become dependent on government support. #unsure

      UN

      I do not know a lot about this issue. However, I do not believe that US troops should submit to UN orders, nor do I believe the US should withdraw from the UN. #unsure

      Terrorism

      Terrorism is partially motivated by US foreign policy. Diplomacy and military should both be used. Captured terrorists should not be tried in civilian courts.

      Welfare

      Opportunities should be provided to make it possible for those in need to become self-reliant. Help people help themselves. #sure

    My views are mostly conservative

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      • James Trentadue 2 years ago from Madison, WI.

        To me it is as simple as:

        1. Did God ordain this country through His people escaping religious persecution, and therefor establish this country as the "Light" of the world for all nations?

        OR, 2. Did this country just evolve into a country that had people who believed in God and were just "good". If you believe the latter you discount all of the miraculous wonders that had to take place for an inept military with "Ragtag" soldiers defeating the most powerful country in the world on the battlefeild. You would have to believe that a Democratic Republic would exist on its own accord. Well there were many hero's that fought and died for the cause "to be free". They gave up Blood and Treasure. I mean all of their blood and treasure, that they had so that we would be free. In their minds the Declaration Of Independence was more than mere words. It was an idea to fight and die for! They believed they had a God that would back them.

        So they win the war and come up with a "divinely inspired" (in their minds) Constitution of The United Stated of America. They thought the inspiration was from God Himself!

        You have to decide if they were right or wrong before you can decide whether you are Liberal or Conservative.

        To me a conservative is someone that would conserve the US Constitution.

        Liberal is one that would liberate you from the Constitution. Simple as that!

        If you believe that the rights given you are suggestions and can be taken away at behest of anyone for what they deem as "right" you are a Liberal.

        If you believe that those Rights are (God given) and worth dying for because they promote Freedom then you are conservative.

        If you believe that we are a part of the world and someday should be controlled by "One World Governing Body ". Again you are a LIBERAL.

        If you believe in American Exceptional ism and believe we should stay a Sovereign nation, then you are Conservative!

        I guess I am Conservative until they pluck my gun and Bible from my cold, dead, hand!!!

      • Differences 2 years ago

        Right wing is the kid who listens to the teacher, does his homework every night and values good manners and knows what he wants out of life and works through obstacles to get it.

        Will probably have a relationship with someone of the opposite sex, open a savings account and drink once a week or less. Take their kids on holiday once a year, save up and buy and own their own house one day. Cry behind closed doors and smile in public for the most part. Probably get married before having children. Children will probably be taught to say please and thank you and be the same race as the parents. Abortion is okay in cases of sexual abuse, otherwise it is looked down on, euthanasia sometimes okay, sometimes not.

        Left wing is the defensive, lazy, 'cool' kid who messes about in class, expects to get life for free and wins the respect of other dossers by proclaiming his selflessness for being left wing when not really understanding anything at all or being particularly philanthropic. Will probably never accomplish much, probably won't get a degree, probably never got smacked as a child and whines about trivial rubbish and hangs out with similar people. This includes people with facial piercings and gays and homeless people, people who dye their hair blue and get tattoos. Abortion acceptable multiple times after drunken one night stands, euathanasia for everyone who wants it. This is the Left wing.

      • Aly 2 years ago

        As our nation becomes more and more liberal, I find myself becoming more and more conservative.

      • anonymous 3 years ago

        I'm conservative.

      • anonymous 3 years ago

        Conservative! Liberalism today is hateful and if you don't think like them you will be persecuted, just k what they have tried (and failed) to do to people who believe in traditional marriage. They have become bullies. I could never be a part of that group!

      • anonymous 3 years ago

        I'm an American wanting and praying we don't have a civil war and learn to get it together before it's too late.

      • anonymous 3 years ago

        I am mostly conservative. It just seems the common sense way for a society to operate. I feel that the Liberal elite would become just that-Elite. No different than the any other tyrannical system that have been attempted. I sense a that they (the elites) think they know better than the common folk. When common people can attain the highest office in land (Mr. Obama), I feel that this could not be the case if the more controlling Liberal society was more entrenched. From his birth he would not fit the mold unless he was born into the privy class. I feel that they would rather control the masses like a herd of animals-after all that is all they think we are. I could go on and on. Essentially, I feel that today's Liberals are residue from the old Soviet Union. It will die out as did the Soviets. America will move. Dictators eventually die out.

      • anonymous 3 years ago

        100% conservative!

      • anonymous 3 years ago

        Definitely Conservative, 100% and proud.

      • anonymous 3 years ago

        i am a conservative, and believe strongly our govt. has become very liberal, and our pres. is way out of line, especially when he stands for the right of people to live a degenerate lifestyle and yet says he is a christian. its like degenerous saying she is a women, it aint no lie.

      • anonymous 3 years ago

        I'm pretty conservative, because I only like to think about how things affect me, and not worry about how they affect everyone. When I was younger I was mostly conservative because I kept being told that I would be rich one day, and so even then when I was able to easily see the overwhelming flaws with conservative arguments I made them, because I thought that they would help me one day; you know when I got rich. As I got older and was going through school it was getting harder to keep hearing the obvious problems with conservative arguments and still hold them, so I started self-deception, mainly through rhetoric. I started entering all convsersations and disscusions close-minded, telling myself that everyone who didn't think like me was a "socialist", or "idealist". The close-minded tactic has worked pretty well, but know I'm older and realize that when they told me that I "could be rich too someday, just through hard work (and the implicit being a white, male, straight, christian)", they were lying. But after years of self-deception (and some help from the sacred Fox News) my brain has started to function that way, I have even developed some racial/sexist/homophobic/anti-nonchristian-tendancies. My only hope know is that my kids can be rich, because I sure as hell didn't end up that way. Now everyday I wake up and pray to the cross on my wall (next to the Reagan portrait).

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        I consider myself a very strong social and fiscal conservative. However, I believe people should live as they choose, manage their finances as they choose and essentially be the individual they are. However, if these choices propagate horrendous consequences I refuse to be made to cough up the monetary or emotional support to bail a person out of their own bad decisions. If I sincerely want to help I will do it on my own but never, NEVER will I be forced to participate in or support any mandated recovery programs just because "big brother" says I have to.

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        I am a bit of both! In my family life I am coservative believing man and wife are best in raising a family! I also believe that homosexuality is abnormal behavior and should scrutinized to children at a young nd impressive age! Being a parent you want more of a social order to issues!

        However I think prohibition on drugs is a failure and should be lifted! Npw we can argue what drugs should be allowed! I think if we legalized drugs we have a much better handel of the situation! Now it's mostly punshment and ineffective treatment!

        Marriage should be 1 man and 1 woman! Also if we took the view that is a fmaily then more should be done to support it! If women can you use the term family planning while speaking about abortion and wanting all those fee's associated with destroying a pregnancy then real family planning and support should be paid for then maybe more families whould be whole

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        Those who voted "I'm a liberal & I think it's good" are clearly Communists, who want our country to fall to decadency, martial law, & the NWO.

        I'm both a social & fiscal conservative

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        I am fiscally conservative but not so much on social issues. I am socially conservative personally but do not feel I have the right to dictate others on how to live their lives. My view has always been that I agree to stay out of your bedroom if you agree to stay out of my wallet. Deal?

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        Social issues: 50% conservative, 50% liberal.

        Personal responsibility: 25% conservative, 75% liberal.

        Fiscal issues: 75% conservative, 25% liberal.

        Ethics: 50% conservative, 50% liberal.

        Defense, and crime: 25% conservative, 75% liberal.

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        Conservative leaning on some issues, probably libertarian.

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        Neither side gets all my support. Politicans are not that different from each other. When I become of voting age, I chose "Independent" because my opinions do not put me on one side. Hardcore Liberals and Conservatives would not be fans of my views. I would never join their club, but if I did I would be kicked out of both. If I were a Politican I don't know how the world would view me. Ugh, I have to pick a side at the bottom even though my views are not super L or C.

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        Neither. Both sides are too extreme but to be fair they balance each other out. One side has deviates from their original intentions and are borderline totalitarian while the other is more focused on lining their own pockets and the care of the rich. so because of the fact that neither becomes the one party in the united states is a good thing. otherwise it's a economically defunct police state vs a weak republic run by corporations. Our constitution despite being perverted and twisted to both sides ends is the only thing standing between a livable and healthy nation and a real life dystopia.

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        libertarian all the way.Although I'm conservative, I couldn't care less if my neighbor wants to blow a horse(unless hes harming the horse or himself, lol)

      • DavidMichaelRay 4 years ago

        Given the current political/sociological realities, neither of these terms really applies to me. To say I'm a libertarian "classic liberal" would probably be mostly accurate, but I have almost nothing in common with the current trendings of left wing politics. I share the conservative preference for less government, less regulation, etc., but I balk at their blind faith in collective corporatism. Neither group has any grasp at all of the proper application of monetary policy, and since that is the pin that holds everything together, I have little use for either side as far as the big picture is concerned.

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        I feel that the government is trying to take our rights away! With this failure of a president I think our Founding Fathers would question there desion to declare our freedom!

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        i'm libertarian; hated by both sides. too liberal for the republicans, too conservative for the democrats...

        and i like it that way.

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        Neither. It is certainly not a black and white world we live in. If I must be labeled I suppose I am a libertarian. If a women is raped I believe she has a right to abort, yet I do not think it should be used as oops I didn't want this to happen. I believe in the right to arm ourselves for many reasons, yet I believe one should be educated in the responsibilities and expectations of gun ownership. A couple of quick examples but I believe it makes my point. I guess I stand for small government and common sense. Accountability would go a long way in our country today. I believe in capitalism to drive our economy yet I expect the capitalist to act respectfully and ethically towards his position as a person of power, creating jobs in safe and progressive environments, taking some responsibility to provide training for lower classes which need a means to a living, not a hand out. I believe in a strong middle class to hold up the poor and a responsible wealthy class to bolster our economy with jobs. To me that is a self reliant, less government country. Most importantly, social issues? I believe live and let live. Walk a mile in another mans shoes and do not cast judgement, if I'm not hurting you, don't hurt me mentality. We, as adults, know right from wrong. Lets stop judicially yanking each others short hairs. I've never heard of a cold blooded killer being successfully rehabilitated in a prison. We need a ton of common sense put back into our judicial system. As you, I believe if not doing anything that will hurt others you should pretty much be left alone. If someone wants to smoke up and eat snacks in front of the telly, more power to you. Prison over crowding would not exist if we apply some common sense. Why are pot heads sitting in prison next to drunk drivers, rapists and robbers? I digress. What am I politically? I guess frightened.

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        You are responsible for YOUR actions. Without help from the government.

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        i consider myself a moderate conservative, for example: i love guns and i think gays should get married but i think it should be up to each state and that religious officials shouldn't be forced to marry them.

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        I'm quite difficult to categorise really, but probably more Conservative than Liberal, since I believe in a free market economy, a single flat rate tax and smaller government, whilst being in favour of abortion and euthanaisia, I agree with capital punishment and tougher law and order. Despite this, I wanted Obama to win because I detested Romney's foreign policy.

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        The quiz says 60% Conservative, 40% Liberal...Huh! No, I'm conservative, but the person who devised the test probably assumes that everyone who is 100% conservative doesn't respect the environment and doesn't want to help people who struggle. We have compasion and money for the poor and struggling, but for the ones who actually try to help themselves, and not just to SSDI and other entitlements meant for people who actually need them. BTW: On the issue of the 2005 sub-prime mortgage mess, it started with Pres. Clinton, his CRA legislation, government meddling in the free market and ended with Democrats trying to filibuster a bill that Bush pushed 17 times to reform and regulate the Democratically controlled GSE's. Heck, out of 186 of the over leveraged borrowers that Obama represented for loan approval, only 19 of them are still in good standing. The rest are in trouble and half or them lost everything.

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        I am Neither , but believe in personal responsibility , traditional marriage !

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        I am a conservative, and I am proud of it. Do I hate liberals? (no). Do I think they are wrong about just about everything? (yes). Conservatives are portrayed as knuckledragging apes who have no heart, and want to run rough shod over everyone. This is the biggest fallacy out there. Conservatives realize the world isn't perfect, and do not support change because it feels good, or in the hopes that no one will suffer. We realize that there is no Utopia, yet liberals continually believe that there will be someday. There way of seeing things seems to be, let gov't do it. If only we had more gov't to make sure we will have whatever it is we want, then everyone will be happy. This is rubbish, you can't legislate happiness. No matter who is running things, some people will be happy, while others are not. Conservatives are considered warmongers, but Woodrow Wilson and FDR were liberals who got us into WWI and 2 respectively. Truman, who I really respect was in office when the Korean Conflict started, and JFK almost got us into a huge skirmish with tthe Soviets. (Yes, Bush who has been labeled as a conservative got us into Iraq and Afghanistan, but I am not so sure he was all that conservative- certainly not liberal, but...).

        Conservatives, like myself hate war, and wish there was no such thing, but if we have to go to war, let's get in it to win it. Conservatives don't like the United Nations telling us, or for that matter anybody telling us how to fight a war, who we can shoot,and why. War, even though I have never been involved in one is hell, and we should be in it to win it.

        I could go on and on. I think liberals are not bad people, but in most ways out of touch with the average person.

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        I'm either a conservative that supports change at a faster pace than normal or a liberal that would like to see more debate and slower changes to our country. I think personal responsibility is first thing we need as a country but what made us great was the helping hand for our neighbors and strangers those with the most should help those with the least but not mandated by law, corporations should be responsible for profits and employees should share in that success. Unions are really not needed and are hurting our country in my opinion. Some of my two cents

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        Im socially conservative with Catholic background and im fiscally conservative. But i have some liberal ideas and im open minded.

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        I believe in smaller government & our constitution.

      • pylemountain1 4 years ago

        I'm very conservative, but I DO believe in helping other people. Regardless, I would prefer to teach a man to fish than give him fish every day...

      • anonymous 4 years ago

        Liberal's talks of freedom and caring for all! However, it's the liberal who forces their views on all regardless and it's the liberal who walks away and says let someone else do it! Being a Conservative is a pain in the a-- because it says you are responsible, you have to act! I just do not understand why anyone is willing to allow others to tell you what you need and how to act and yet that's what's occurring today. I love America and understand that the family and local communities were the cornerstone of American exceptional ism , now it's a vision of government forced mandates, This is the vary socialism we have fought against and now so many embrace!

      • Heidi 4 years ago from Benson, IL

        I tend to lean conservative on most issues. There are a few that I can see a middle ground on. Mostly I just expect the government to keep its nose out of my business.

      • Harriet 4 years ago from Indiana

        I usual think of myself as a free thinker and do not allow party affiliation to make my decisions, but thinks have gotten so polarized and their is so much hatred between both parties that I wish there was a third one with a great candidate who could move us away from all this negativism.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        I am definitely a conservative. In everything. I don't like big government.

      • JIAMUSA 5 years ago

        Conservative without a doubt!!! Those who claim liberlism don't have clue what they are talking about.

        There is one guy who said we have to much freedom, I wonder if he has ever lived in China, Russia, North Korea, or the Middle East just to name a few countries that sufficate personal freedoms.

        Their words say that they're for the less fortunate but when you ask them for to pony up they often say well we didn't mean us!

        I don't believe that the government is the answer, or should it ever be!!!

        Their responsibilites is to provide for a strong defense and be good stewards of the taxpayers money and as you can see they failed!!!

        Most issues should be handled by each state and the will of their citizens.

        But as you know we have activist judges that put their personal political agendas above the will of the people and the law.

        Those who blame Fox News, Rush, Hannity, or Levin are blinded and don't see the big picture. it is not about me or you but whats is good for America!!!

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        I think we need less government. We need to encourage those that think they can't do it on their own. We need to keep jobs here. Give illegals a choice to go back home or stay here, pay taxes, learn English and become an American citizen. School systems are broken. Children that can't read or do basic math are in high school. School vouchers will end up weeding out the bad teachers. They are out there, even though some people think all teachers are great.

        We don't need to help other countries until all of our children, elderly and disabled are taken care of in the USA. The government assistance programs are out of hand. Able bodied 25 year old men need to be working. Not out walking the streets everyday. Women and men need to be held responsible for their actions. You have a baby, you need to take care of it. Child support enforcement should be stricter. There should also be a two pregnancy minimum for those who choose to only live on handouts. After that no more government help without the mom showing proof of working. If you have a job and are taking care of your kids, you wont have time to make babies.

        They should have a new deff for same sex unions. You choose who you love. No one should be blamed or have to give up what they believe in for your choice. If you give it a name besides marriage, insurance companies could make policies that cover you both. Then you could have people not scarificing their religion for your choice. Everyone would be happy.

        If people learned to work together and all parties stopped lying to the media maybe Americans could get along. Military members ESP VETS should not have to worry about medical or housing ever. If you served to protect this country you should be taken care of. It's sad that people who refuse to work get taken care of while people who fight for their freedom keep getting crapped on. Elderly should also be taken care of if the family can't support them. Family values are becoming non existent along with the American dream. It's so sad.

        Gun laws need to incorporate mental health in with there laws. Guns in the hands of someone unstable is never good. Gun education needs to be taught by parents. Kids raised around guns don't grow up and kill for no reason. It's almost always people who are not educated about guns that kill.

        We need to find away to co exist and stop believing every lie spun into bigger lies on the tv, mags, radio and Internet.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        If everyone wants Americans to be so great then this is what to do: conservatives.

        Liberals want to rely on government and welfare which makes us lazy and not want to do anything. THAT IS NOT LIFE. You have to work hard as hell If you want to do fun things. There's a reason conservatives are averagely more wealthy than liberals. Because we work hard and aren't lazy, bill gates is republican/conservative. And life fact: rich get richer, poor get poorer. Tax low and evenly, every human is capable of what others do. Poor people are LAZY, that's why they aren't rich. There own damn fault.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        Another way to frame the question. Which statement do you agree with?

        "God helps those who help themselves."

        "I am my brother's keeper."

        My feeling? If everyone works hard to "help themselves," there will be plenty left over to "be your brother's keeper." So that would lean me more toward fiscal conservative.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        I'm a proud Nihilist. I don't care which side is right, as long as the conflict between the two sides continues to build until it erupts into merciless ideological driven war. The dead shall be heaped into pyres, and the streets shall run red with blood. All will be torn down, and only death shall remain. So whichever decisions on both sides lead to that, I'm good with.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        Oh I was the one who wrote about the fraud issue, I think if there was some kind of trust, there would be a better understanding instead of demanding, noone wants to work with each other and give anything a chance to work, because there is no trust, noone is honest because it is ok to lie, no one gets punished, anyway, could you change my name to schribler, if you look at how I got it I moved the "S" amd got rid of the "O"

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        I believe the totally most important issue this country is dealing woth is not liberal or conservative, I believe we would not have these issues if the Government and everyone treated as important people in this country, they wer voted and trusted to do what they chose to take responsibility with, the problem is fraud. everyone lying about whatever, LIES, LIES, LIES. and they are getting away with , first of it is wrong and against the law, and nothing is done when some politician or Judge gets caught in a lie. Attorneys fraudulently represent people, these people trust their attorneys to protect their rights, the court room puts on a front. none of these people of, may I say power, given to them by the people, get sanctioned, punished, jailed, nothing. fraud is the issue this country has and being a Conservative or a Liberal, Republican or Democrat, Judges, Lawyers, the people running this country are not being honest, Fraud is Fraud and that is what needs to be what fixes this issue. thet is where the changes need to be made is on fraud. fraud is a criminal act and should be treated as such. people who commit fraud should be punished, jailed just like a criminal and only then will these people of power will start being honest, and noone will want to lie, for a profit, or whatever they need to lie about, , its all about fraud, fraudulent rpresentation in this country, LIARS need to be stoped

      • RobDenham 5 years ago

        I am a proud conservative. I support indiviual rights, national security and free market economics. What is causing the divide is the continuing effort by the (liberal) left to alter the American ideal, and undermine the nation as a whole. This has been happening since around 1913, but became a true menace to our nation when Lenin, realizing that America was the only nation which could truly stand against worldwide communist revolution, sent the first agents to infiltrate trade unions, newsmedia, education and entertainment.

        They suceeded, and their efforts began to bear fruit by the 1960s. Many of those 60s leftist radicals and their ideological descendants are in positions of poltical power, now, and the nation hangs in the balance.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        I used to be a conservative, but I'm not so sure now. I've come to find out the conservatives take care of themselves up there in CEO land. I know politicians are bought and sold every day. Not good for America. As for progressives...aren't they the ones who took little street urchins off the streets and put them in orphanages, and in this day and age foster care? Didn't they also come up with the 40hr work week? And also, OSHA? Correct me if I'm wrong.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        This is less about me, and more about the author of this section, although you can infer a lot about me based on the conclusions I draw here.

        You left a very important point out of your description of classical liberalism. The reason conservatives aka classical liberals advocate maximal personal freedom and as little government interference as possible is because classical liberal is very affirming of human nature. The Founding Fathers veiw of human nature was a blend of Christian faith and Stoic philosophy. Because of that Stoic ethos, the Founding Fathers' idea of small government is predicated on the idea that the greatest freedom is a virtuous or moral freedom. People don't need to be looked after by a totalitarian state because they are limited by their own consciences, by their faiths; their own moral reasoning is what saves them from bad decisions.

        Progressivism is predicated on a completely opposite view of human nature, that most peoples' consciences are not well formed and people are doomed to commit bad decisions in perpetuity, and that's why they need a nurturing government to look after them.

        Therefore, in a classically liberal or conservative social order, the forces that discourage bad behavior and bad decision making come not from the state, as in a progressive or totalitarian social order, but from within individual communities and among peers.

        I consider you less classically liberal and more progressive because it is individuals like yourself who should form the first line of defense in a libertarian ethos. Your being laissez faire about immoral lifestyles, such as loose sexuality and gay 'marriage' is essentially leaving it to a higher authority because you'd rather not discourage these things in your own personal life. In a moral social order in which the power of government is curtailed, bad behaviors are discouraged by communities that SHUN that bad behavior.

      • R Toney 5 years ago

        there are principles i wholeheartedly believe... but there are some things that honestly scream both liberal and liberty

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        i am a liberal conservative... and that is the exact political classification given to the likes of Thomas Jefferson. so stop spreading divisive nonsense. We are one very powerful country, lets all just get along. 16 amendment should be repealed. and women should not vote. only if you are older than 21 and own land. we should also take a look at the practice of the Jubilee. i am a very reasonable person, so were the founding fathers. bye

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        there was a reason our founding fathers develpoed our way of life, They came from what some of you are saying is good, They must have experianced how wrong it was where they came from. Study history and you will see socialisum has never worked in the history of the world!!! It has been said Liberlisum is a desease, I'm thinking they may be right

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        Liberal politicians want a fundementally different America. The want a socialist utopia. And they are definetly NOT promoting maximum individual freedom. Freedom to eat what you want? No, because of Michelle Obamas infatuation with health (not bad, I am as well Michelle! just STOP imposing it upon others) Federal Agents confinscated a elementary students lunch and replaced it, because it didnt meet their standards. Also this forcing contraception on catholic institutions??? Where is the seperation of church and state? Liberals want a nanny state, its evident in what they are taking control of.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        I refuse to spend more than ten percent of my working hours to support this government by paying taxes. Twenty five percent of my working hours should NOT be given to paying taxes. I refuse to give more than ten percent. Even God Himself never required more than ten percent from the income of an individual. This thieving government is NOT above God.

        Anyone who can attempt to claim that abortion is not the murder of an innocent human life, but the execution of a death sentence on a person who took away the life of an innocent human is murder, is an imbecile.

        Liberalism is most definitely a mental disorder.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        good morning everyone this has been an eye opener for me though there are some things I can not agree with and I will not go into those on this post I can say without a doubt that liberals and conservatives are not that far apart in their beliefs I have put this page in my favorites so when I want a true view of what liberals believe I can come here

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        Does anyone know why the Federal Government was founded? It was founded solely to protect and preserve states sovereignty. The programs and regulations setup by the federal government are over reaching and cumbersome leading to a weakening of our system. I anybody truly believes in liberalism and government nanny state, how do we pay the bills for instituting those things you see as necessary? Conservatism is about personal responsibility and monetary stability.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        I have both liberal and conservative views on America, although more conservative than liberal. I believe in the freedom and living a free life, and that is exactly why I've been having so much trouble lately. While I do believe that some issues (like marriage of the gays) should be allowed, I do not agree that other issues should not be allowed (what about the second amendment ya'll?). Freedom of speech is especially starting to get to me, with the whole SOPA talk and being reprimanded every time I wish someone a "Merry Christmas". I am a Christian, although that doesn't have any bearing on the fact that this country was built under Christians, and therefore it is part of the history of America to have "In God We Trust" on the currency of America; it's not that everyone has to believe in God or even the same God, but having that (among other religious "doctrine") printed on our currency speaks to the history of the USA and what it stands for. Another thing that I just have to get into real quick is the fact that I am a poor college student going to school full time and working full time to pay for it. My family is comfortable but believe in their two children working hard for what they have. I go to the cheapest state college in my state, and even so, I will be thousands in debt by the time I graduate. Meanwhile, I know certain individuals who are in New York City at private universities whose family's are unemployed. Their children get sent to ritzy schools because financial aid is based of the parent's income, which, wouldn't you know it, is $0. And what are these kids doing? Attending opulent schools, while they themselves are unemployed. This really burns me. If the government is basing financial aid off what the parents are making, it's seriously flawed; why don't they base it off what I am making? My parents could have sat on their butts their whole lives and I could have gone to the college of my dreams too, but no, they worked hard and expect the same from their spawn. I don't like things being handed to me, but it kills me that that's how some people play the government.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        the problem isn't who is wrong and who is right, the problem is that we can't negotiate. Liberals and conservatives seem to just tell each other what's wrong with each other's parties. No one wants to give a little. It's my way or the highway. As a teen, I see things on both sides that we want to fix together, but you both have different ideas on how to fix it. Now, there will be some things that you can't negotiate on, but instead of making assumptions about the other party and wasting time just repeating your side's idea over and over again, why not come up with different ideas that will suit both parties? Again, I'm only in high school, but I can see that both sides should band together to form one country. Honestly, this country would have a lot less problems if we could get along. Most of the problems in the country could be solved much quicker if we could negotiate.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        I am a conservative. I refuse to believe liberals or conservatives differ in their motives. We all want to be happy, healthy, and free. Where I take issue with liberals is the notion that change must be made without thorough regard to the consequences of such change. Anyone who says conservatives refuse to change is distorting the reality of a conservative mindset. I do not refute a need to change; I merely require empirical evidence to suggest not only a need to change, but that such a change will in fact be an improvement. I also see little reason to believe that government can even accomplish many of the goals it sets out to even if one can make the argument that it should attempt such things. Government has not demonstrated any propensity for being competent much less a responsible steward of our tax dollars, and so limiting the scope of their duty seems perfectly reasonable to me. I close with one final thought: We conservatives resist the change, lest we lose the good that you liberals have accomplished.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        I am a conservative. I believe in slow and gradual change whilst maintaining a nation's institutions and respecting the traditions of that nation. I sincerely believe that most Western nations (USA, Australia, Great Britain) was built upon a bedrock of Christian values. Values which support marriage, family and the ten commandments. As well as the intrinsic values which celebrate hard work, prudence, thrift, honesty, honour and integrity. I also believe that those who speak with the significance of time should be respected and trusted for their wisdom.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        I am more conservative. It is to my belief that the more and more we break away from traditional values that eventually the world we live in will fall apart. As most of us will know the bible in some shape of form, it is to my knowledge that the bible holds most answers "life". Although I do not consider my self very religious or in terms of following every concept to the religion Christianity. I do up hold my values on life and how this religious figure "God" can benefit mankind being real or not.

        Not being to smartest person I lift my words from heart to others to hear as it will not hurt. As religion in general has always been a big part of mankind the idea of creation and meaning gives us the ability to willing live a "life".

        Now what does this have to do with anything besides trying to cram religion down a throat. Well think about our Country. We have triumph passing other nations, some may say by the hands of god or the fact as a group of people we arose to the top as Americans. So why mention this? More and more we pour ourselves to debt. How? Well i may not have exact fact to bring you but as a basic and general outlook, we only have plenty of imported items, we invest our efforts in other areas being manufactured not here in America but yet in China etc.

        We as a nation should start having the idea of self pride in America. That we shall stay at the top and not to diminish by the impeded evil. Staying with traditional values and morals shall not only give us meaning and pride but the glory of being human to rise above any challenge faced. Time goes by and obviously things change, yes change is good but we should go about with wise output.

        Now anyone can say to you that you as a person you mean something, to the world, the nation, to the state, city, family, and God. It is true so why go farther away which has been there for so long. We need to be in order in check, as rules are created for purpose and meaning not to harm but to preserve the duties they are entitled to. In observations I feel a selfish gravity that we have given to ourselves. We want more and more when we should be happy with what we are given. That being said look out on us now.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        i am a conservative becouse if things are great the way they are why change? we are not narrow minded or close minded i like new ideas and will be happy to hear them its just some of the liberals ideas are not that good no offense i love guns and Im against abortion i don't hate gays i think its wrong to get married though 2 dudes? really?

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        I'm a libertarian-conservative. I know that free markets create the most prosperity for every income group and helps the world as a whole. I know that governments have failed to bring their people out of virtually every economic hardship; but governments have done well in protecting their people, internationally and domestically, from danger better than an anarchist kind of approach. I know that abortion is immoral because we would rather punish an innocent being for our irresponsibility, or someones crime against the woman, than ourselves or the criminal. The only issue I don't care about is marriage, allow the church or whoever marries people deal with it let's have the state stop meddling with individuals whether it be economic "relief" or personal issues such as gay marriage. So yeah I'm a Liberian-Conservative, a.k.a. classical liberal.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        As a gay single man I am conservitive. Im also against abortion. There arent many thing liberals belive that I agree with. I believe in smaller gov. and Rush is right!!! President Obama is destroying this country. We need help.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        I was a liberal democrat and voted for Obama. At the time I was 25 and was upset that I worked very hard and didn't get paid as much as others in society that were not smarter or harder working than me in any perceivable way. After a little intospection I realized that holding liberal views and voting democrat resulted in policies that in the long term seemed to hold those I envied down more than they lifted me up. Without any venom I can say that I believe a regulatory environment that allows you the freedom to rot in poverty indirectly but effectively insures that you will not.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        am a conservative because I believe in all the American individual progress, wellbeing' and the country itself and all the traditional social and moral values

        of the nation.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        I tend to align myself with modern conservatism. I say this because clearly, the definition/political stance of both liberals and conservatives has evolved dramatically over the years. What I believe is simple; I think I am smart enough to know what is best for me and my family. I don't need nor do I want any government entity to tell me what to eat, drink, smoke, or watch on TV. I'm an adult. I can make that decision all by myself. I don't care if you are gay and in the military. I served for 12 years. I served with gay men and women. They we're all fine soldiers and care deeply for our country. I don't care if a same sex couple wants to spend there lives together. Let them make a union with each other. Give them the same tax benefits as you would a married couple....just don't call it marriage. Marriage is a religious union between a man and a woman. That's like a stop sign demanding that it be called a stop light. Yes you both do the same thing but your not a stop light, your a stop sign. Your a gay couple, not husband and wife. Don't force me to buy health care! Holy cow, how is that bill even close to being constitutionally legal? All you occupiers... Life is not perfect. You don't leave college and start making as much money as your parents. Get a job... Any job! Work hard, live in an apartment with 2 friends, pay your loans back and maybe by the time you're 30, you can afford a house. Quit pooping on my streets! I'm all for electric cars, alternative fuel, riding a bike, but for God' sake, we need to be energy independent and right now that means oil. Drill. I Could go on and on but the bottom line is, I believe in personal rights and liberties. I hate political correctness, and one more thing. To all you millionaires that want to be taxed more. Nothing is stopping you from giving as much as you want to the government.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        I'm a conservative, but I differ from a lot of them being that I'm more unconventional and free spirited than the average conservative.

      • thestrongwill 5 years ago

        Paleoconservative here, in the tradition of Burke and yes even Jefferson on his good days

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        I'm not really conservative, I'm pretty much middle of the road. I consider myself libertarian too.. My quiz was almost identical to yours except I was 100% Conservative on defense and crime.. haha, which put me at 60% conservative, 40% liberal.. My social and ethics were also 75% liberal and 25% conservative.. I strongly believe in NO ONE has the right to impose their opinions and/or their beliefs on another.. FREEDOM of choice (just because it's not your choice doesn't make it wrong, just different).. So while I do not believe in Gay marriage or abortion for myself, I will fight to the end for everyones right to choose what they feel is best for them. This world is full of different people with different beliefs and NO ONES beliefs take presidence over the others. America was founded on 'Freedom for All' and we fought a cival war to free the slaves, so we cannot make laws or have laws that infringe on peoples freedoms to express differences of opinion and/or their freedom of choice..

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        all i have to say is conservative cause they are better

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        Liberals don't have any AMERICAN roots...their ideas aren't from America and they don't even realize it (Communism and Marxist ideas have failed the world over-yet they aren't bright enough to learn fm others mistakes and learn from our successes). The very first idea that this article says is an out right LIE..Libs don't promote maximum individual freedom; they have done nothing but take away freedoms by regulating more policies (over 10,000 pages since BO took office)..They promote bigger gov't, more welfare, more control and power in DC (less freedom and responsibility for the individual), higher minimum wage, more bailouts, more $$ to who-ever wants it as long as they get the votes...They don't care about the country and POS BO is the perfect example. I'd rather have 1/10th the gov't than the gov't we have now...THE POWER SHOULD BE AT THE STATE LEVEL not the FED level...CENTRALIZING things kills the country in almost every facet....Welfare has killed the minority family. 70% of Blacks have kids out of wedlock and they worry about making TOO MUCH money to where it cuts off their welfare handout....Instead of taking responsibility of their own lives and live it without ANY GOV'T...but they can't handle the individual responsiblity and FREEEDOM that goes with it. THEY ENJOY BEING ENSLAVED by the Dems. (and proud of it! - those poor ignorant saps)

      • scaguy 5 years ago

        Social Issues: 75% Conservative, 25% Liberal

        Personal Responsibility: 75% Conservative, 25% Liberal

        Fiscal Issues: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal

        Ethics: 0% Conservative, 100% Liberal

        Defense and Crime: 75% Conservative, 25% Liberal

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        All I have to say is that when people stop suppressing their human instincts (as in a John Locke sort of way) we would all be better off. We don't need artificial classifications to identify ourselves or for the "other side" to identify us. People are people. There should be no distinction of race when it comes to the private or public sector. People work hard for what they earn and taking away increasing percentages of it for "their own good" is a travesty. I'll close with the words of former PM Thatcher "socialism is a great idea until you run out of other peoples' money"

      • dok300 5 years ago

        I regard myself as a conservative libertarian - Ron Paul with free education thrown in and a retainment of minimum wage levels. Benjamin Hoch is right - the government should be limited to making roads, protecting the liberty of the people and ensuring everyone has a chance to get an education. Free market principals will create wealth, simply moving money from one group or area in society to another isin't really a sound financial policy and doesen't create wealth. Welfare, medicare and other entitlements encourage laziness and kill incentive. Shove taxes down to single digits, deregulate the government and get rid of welfare,medicare and prohibition and you will inevitabilty eliminate much bribery, corruption and crime and create jobs for all

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        Jackson johns. Lincoln was a Republican.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        This is crazy I cant help but keep posting as i read on down the line.

        To loren who thinks corporations dont help poor people. Who do you think creates the jobs in this country. Why do liberals insist that any body who is rich is greedy and is not helping poor people. Most charities wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for the millions corporations give to them.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        Liberals hate anyone that makes money.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        To benny 124

        How are the rich corporations opting out of there responsibly when the top one percent pay 40 percent of the taxes. and when you get tot he top ten percent you reach 70 percent of the taxes.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        After years of defending conservatism, i have come to one conclusion. When it comes to running our country social issues need to be avoided on the federal level. The only way to have true liberty is to give the responsibly to the people. I believe our founders understood this and is why they set in place a relatively small feral government. Social issues and in fact most issues were intended to be left up to the states. In these separate states you can try radical ideas such as obama care with our totally destroying the country. The fed needs to do nothing more than pave our roads, defend our freedom with a strong military, and protect our boarders. i understand there a few other task they need to take on but for the most part that its. Economically, supply side economics is the only mathematically sound method. You can not consume more than your produce, nor should you be allowed to consume on the backs of others. This is unarguably a conservative idea.( personal responsibly ) This world is not a utopia and never will be, Human beings are innately good, however there will always be those willing to take advantage of others. This countries economics has to be controlled by something other than human beings to insure it never encounters such problems., FREE MARKET FORCES.( This is were the libs tell us that greedy corporations control the markets.) If the liberals want to use social issues( gays, unborn babies killed by there mothers) to try and make it look as though conservatism is flawed fine. However I have yet to hear a liberal plan to returning this country to its originally prosperity that doesn't include taking from others what they earn and redistributing it to those who didn't, or taking more from those who make more) What makes this country great is that we are not all the same. Some people are willing to work harder than others and for the most part this country rewards hard work.( Libs, this is were u tell us the rich get richer and the poor stay poor.) Statistically the more money the rich people have, the more money the poor people have,( again supply side economics.) You might think your the compassionate one for being a liberal but when you tend to someones any or every need you destroy that ones incentive to live life to his fullest potential. Like a good parent to there children, i would not give every one in this country what they want but instead give them the ability to go get what they want.( not burocrasy and over regulation) starting to ramble now, as I am finding it hard to say everything I want in a few paragraphs. Last thing I am going to say. I don't think bush was the picture boy for conservatism so i don't want to hear anything about him. We conservatives told everyone what would happen if a radical libral like obama was elected. Higher debt, higher tax rate, higher unemployment, the destruction of the best health care system in the world( libs, this is were you argue that obama inherited this problem and it would have been much worse with out the tactics he chose ), In short the continued decay of the USA. How can you be a lib and defend this. Until we cut the size and scope of the Federal government ( not including the military, but most certainly including entitlement programs( here is were the libs tell me i want the old people to go with out and just die) and return to founding principles we will continue to loose or liberty. This country was not founded on liberalism and didn't become the greatest nation on earth by anything other than capitalism. God Bless America and God Bless our troops

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        What started out to be perhaps a good thing has turned out to be the worst. In allowing "poor" people to have what others work for, we have created a larger group of "poor". How can oboma say that everyone needs to share, when about half of the this country pays any income tax. What about the "poor" that live free on welfare and pay only a tad when they shop at Wal-Mart? They do not contribute to the economy unless you include the jobs needed to control them, like police, judges, etc. Liberalism is no longer a good idea on any level. And, those like myself, in the middle, are working for the rich, and giving to the" poor " . No one is poor on welfare, if they were, they could not afford to have a bigger and better car than I; cable tv and large screen tvs; 5 pit bull dogs in the front yard and on and on and on. Remember, Abe was a Republican, and the Democrats started the KKK, history is being distorted to cowtow to the minorities who REFUSE to work.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        I am a extremely libertarian leaning conservative. It sickens me seeing the typical Washington republicans saying that there for less government yet passing the patriot act, and bailing out wall-street and the banks, and restricting state and individual rights. There needs to be an effort to make the republicans more libertarian. We republicans need to go back to the constitution and stop interpreting it more then we would care to admit. However, I can not believe these liberals forcing their views on everybody, how in the hell do you believe that regulation and taxes are good for the average person. The only thing it does is make the market less competitive and the economy weaker. Government involvement in the private economy (including subsidies, bailouts, and everything) are what truly hurt the poor. It's not the governments responsibility to "protect the poor" that only makes them more dependent and takes away the concept of a free market. Why not just believe in freedom to own a business and stand alone in a free market economy, and the freedom to keep your money and do what you please with it. The only entitlements I believe in are your right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Which means keeping the fruit of your labor and depend on nobody. Stop the class warfare please!! It's nonsense, why can't you liberals realize that just because a business is free doesn't mean it will extort the labor from its workers and waste their money. It's the government that does that through taxes, tariffs, mandates, and everything else! For god sakes the government robs us everyday, they devalue our money and everything! The market will decide what business are useful to us, the market will decide how much the price of goods and services will cost, and the market will decide what businesses will succeed and which ones will fail. If they are a bad business they will fail, the only thing that prevents that are government bailouts and subsidization. And for the love of god, why do you think business are in china anyway, they don't want to be in that hell-hole, but they are there because are tax, regulatory, and government system is so screwed up that it's easier to just stay static and import not expand. Don't blame business for moving overseas, blame government for not knowing how capitalism is supposed to work. I'm only fifteen and I understand that.

      • anonymous 5 years ago

        Conservatives promote freedom as well, liberals want huge restrictions, Forcing their beliefs onto you. Look at gays, I have nothing against it now it is going to be forced down our children? Saying such and such did this in history and was gay? Why does it matter what sexual preference a person had? Do we say Washinton was our first president and liked to give Martha anal? Or enjoyed blow jobs? No! Sexuality should be taught by parents and given premission to our teachers to teach sex ed. Conservatives want to stay true to our constitution, keep freedom for individuals to become what they want, be leaders or rich business men. Everyone is equal to do as he or she pleases. Liberals enstall regulations, rules and more regulations to limit us. Keep it harder to make our own businesses, follow our own dreams. Liberalism has changed since JFK to now. Before it was amazing to fight for freedom and rights. Now we want to keep people down and control them through wel fare and scares of taking away social security. Listen to Liberals speak its filled with hatred. Not love, fear not security, it blames, it tries to control. Listen to conservatives speak, SS is out of wack, we need reform to it and medicare. A liberal will look at a poor man and go "aww heres a dollar." a conservative will look at a poor man and go "we need to make more jobs availible for everyone to be off the streets." one cripples, the other empowers. Who are you?

      • jacquesantonorsi2 5 years ago

        "Progressive" liberals don't seem to understand that when a decision is taken by a government, it violates individual liberty. You can't skip paying taxes and that's it -- all actions taken by governments are constrictions or inhibitions. This in fact is not a new idea at all for if you look over the history of the world, we as a race have spent at least 75% of our time under the yoke of a government whether you call it a monarchy, empire, kingdom et al. they are really different degrees and applications of the same methodology and thinking process. What we today call "conservatives" are actually revolutionary, as it is often a rather new idea -- even to this day to propose anti-statism. This can be seen, as the less educated a person usually is, the less he understands the inter-workings of the world and the more he proposes bigger government. This can be shown statistically in the modern world, such as the difference of opinion on this issue in more educated countries is usually more towards freedom and that the less educated and usually lower classes within a society usually support more socialistic views. It can also be seen in antiquity as when the council of the Roman Empire was opened to plebeians the direct result was a bread-and-circus regime.

      • anonymous 6 years ago

        I have enjoyed reading comments from both the left and the right, and though there is discourse, there is also some agreement. It seems to me that both sides want people to live a better life, but they see how to do it through different lenses. This is to be expected, but there is quite a bit more common ground here than I would have otherwise thought, and that is because Liberal and Conservative do not mean what they did years ago. The Liberals today frequently are Big Government Progressives, and many of the Conservatives are Big Government Neo- Cons. Both are pretty scarey to me, for both advocate that the state knows what is best for you, or should I say a select few have the right to make decisions for you because basically we are all to stupid to think for ourselves. Yes, I see plenty of stupids out there, and I don't claim to be an intellectual, but since when is stupidity a crime?

      • anonymous 6 years ago

        It's all an illusion of choice these days. Truth is (with a few exceptions) that the only difference between the two parties is which special interest group they serve or corp. Perfect example is that we are still at war. We still maintain military presence all over the world. Why? To protect us from "evil doers"? Nearly every instance of terrorist acts or war we have been involved in, can be traced back to lies, propaganda, and blow-back from other meddling we have done in the affairs of other countries. (in recent history more reason has to do with natural resources we want). The neocon hijack is just as bad as ultra liberal agenda. It makes no sense, and only serves special interest.

        Most people don't have a clue why the economy collapsed. It was a combination of deregulation of banks/insurance companies, and the push by people like W. and Barney Frank to allow "liar loans". Basically punishing banks if they didn't free up massive credit to people that could clearly not afford it. Banks got flooded with money (and continue to do so) from the Fed and lent it out to whoever wanted one, then repackaged and sold it off(no risk to them), and then bet against the people they lent to for additional profit. Derivatives, credit default swaps, etc. The losses were so huge that they were too big to allow to fail. And then "we the people" were on the hook to bail them all out. Scary thing is that no one has been prosecuted, no real laws have been changed regarding CDS or derivatives and FED continues to monetize debt.

        "Obamacare" is the same deal republicans tried to push through to combat hillarycare back in the day. If Obama wanted national healthcare or medicare for all, he should have proposed it and a constitutional amendment to allow it. Explain to people that their taxes would go up to cover it etc, and allow the vote. I can go on but won't.

        I don't care about gay marriage. If the gay community wants to be married, it makes no difference to me.

        I'm also very libertarian when it comes to legalization of all drugs. (for 21 and older obviously). If someone wants to hurt themselves it's their right. However if they cause harm to anyone else the penalty should be appropriate(child abuse, DUI, etc).

      • anonymous 6 years ago

        individual rightd of conservatives are good if the democrats want redistribution of the wealth they dont think of who gives them the money thats taking money away from the successful and giving it to people who dont want to work people should only get unemployment for 1-3 months and if healthcare gets passed then the overall quality of healthcare goes down doctors wont get paid insurance companies will be shut down and the people working there will lose there jobs because no one has to buy insurance

      • anonymous 6 years ago

        The budget really needs to be reigned in. (Without tax hikes, of course)

        It takes cooperation to balance a budget, though. Obama's $4 trillion cut is a good starting number, but we can't raise taxes.

      • anonymous 6 years ago

        I guess I'm more of a libertarian because both liberals and conservatives want to force their way of life on others, for example liberals want to ban guns (on top of other things) and conservatives want to criminalize marijuana (on top of other things). I believe we should all have the right to do whatever it is we wish to do, as long as it doesn't infringe on another. I'm also an anti-interventionist I guess it would be called these days, I don't believe we should make allies or send billions of dollars in aid to other countries when we're in debt. I guess I'll stop there...

      • anonymous 6 years ago

        liberals are people who accept everyone but God-fearing people.

        conservitives accept everyone but the people GOD said not to accept.

        liberals are in it for themselves.

        conservitives are in it for the contery.

        a conservitive shoots somone, he turns himself in.

        a liberal shoots somone, he disides that if he is allreddy going to jail he will kill

        as many people as he can untill then.

        a conservitive has honer.

        a liberal has only his selfish wants.

        oh and by the way, definision of criminal is somone who has no regard for

        the law, wich means he will not obey it. so if u wont let him buy a gun,

        he will buy it off the black market, but the man who will protect people

        who is a God-fearing man, will have no gun to protect his family with, why

        do you think saying "no criminal u may not have a gun" will stop the criminal for buying a gun???

      • anonymous 6 years ago

        i am about as conservative as they get but i am open to some liberal ideas, i dont care about the abortion issue or gay marriage. i dont care about legalizing pot. i would trade all three of those issues if the libs would leave the gun issue alone. i believe you should be able to own a m1 tank as long as you dont hurt someone or rob a bank with it. leave me alone, let me decide where i send my kids to school, what lightbulbs i use, car i drive etc...i am becoming more libertarian and i hate the nanny state.

      • anonymous 6 years ago

        Having a conservative outlook on life has to be the greatest, need i say more.

      • anonymous 6 years ago

        Sorry I had to pick either or lol I chose Conservative...

        Just in response to Nate

        If a conservative thinks that something violates their religion such as abortion, they want it banned.

        No Human Rights all Humans yes even the living organism inside. Isn't this the theory of evolution...not saying you believe that, just wanted to add.

        When a conservative sees a school not working they think" How can I take the well behaved kids out of that school and get them in a private for profit program?"

        I disagree we want the school to get fixed through parents, kids, school system however parents are a huge factor and they are the ones that actually need the fixing. Sometimes taking out may be the only solution. I believe liberals would rather sue to get it fixed. Here you sound Conservative...lol

        Wen the economy collapses conservatives say that taxes are to high.

        No i think here you are talking republican vs democrat, not liberal/conservative. Conservatives want to see those that messed it up take responsibility not everyone.

        When a corporation puts a badly made product on the market and people get hurt or die, conservatives say that liberals are making to big a deal out of it even if someone they know was hurt.

        WOW now you got me talking...I see what you are saying and I have a few comments on this. Conservatives believe in individual rights as well as business rights. Now you can choose to buy it or not. If the company is using manipulation then they should be investigated and brought to justice. Remember don't get republican and democrat mixed up here. It is interesting that you put this comment when liberals are well aware of certain diseases that people encounter and then you all point them straight to the clinics. For example STD's. Does "protection" protect? No. (When a corporation puts a badly made product on the market and people get hurt or die, even if someone they know was hurt.) What about the future health affects from the different medicines given to prevent pregnancies? What about the individualâs mental/emotional status after being worked on by the liberal clinics (lol), short-term and long-term. Talks about oppression, liberals do the most or actually put people in the beginning stages of oppression. After they learn their aka ârightsâ from you all (convinced/manipulated/ideology), its like they are left to rot, but then you use them and shout victim. They wouldnât be in this mess if you were to tell them the entire Truth. I believe when someone is truly and entirely informed it is now left on them to make a well informed decision and take responsibility.

        LOL I believe it is the liberal view that porn is art and what not. Conservative view porn as being wrong.

        With all that said Conservative and Liberals should understand each other and not falsify what a view actually is.

      • anonymous 6 years ago

        Proud conservative. First, I respect the liberal beliefs about the woman should have the right on her own body BUT if you were the baby or fetus wouldn't you ask her that you wanna live too? Wouldn't you tell your mother "do I have the right to chose my life?" Ofcourse you do. Abortion is slaughtering you own blood, your own flesh and your own CHILD. Second, I believe that i should have private life. If i have a gun on my house its for better protection. Liberal people has their eyes closed and let the government decides for them. Common, dont you want your own life? Your own private life? Why would you have to rely on the government to decide for yourself? This is called BIG GOVERNMENT.

      • anonymous 6 years ago

        I'm a conservative and proud of it. I do think there is too much government though and both parties are guilty of it. When the government almost closed down I was praying it would. Government never solves problems it only creates them.

        I agree with some of the authors below that we should focus on the size and need of our government rather than social issues or platitudes against each other. Government or leadership in any society is primarily charged with basic things. One is the security of a nation. Two is governance so that people's basic rights and liberties are upheld. the real difference in opinion in this definition is how far do these go? Does government need to secure our retirements? Does government need to ensure we all have health care? Remember, Healthcare and retirement programs are modern day products of society. Offered by companies in competitvie markets. One can put as much or as little attention into them as they desire. It's no different than 100 years ago someone going to the doctor and paying in cash or barter. Or going to the bank and investing in gold. Isn't this a basic liberty we should all defend? That is, the choice we have in buying into them as much as we want. We don't have to have them if we don't want them. The system is fine as it is. Healthcare, insurance, and investment companies will fail if they are not competitve or are fiscally irresponsible.

      • anonymous 6 years ago

        I'm neutral, but I lean more on the conservative side. Sometimes I agree with Conservatives on issues, and other times I think both sides of the argument are too extreme; and I fall in between. I oppose the liberal views that are more progressive. What bothers me most about liberals is many of them try to impose their views on others-- not that it doesn't go both ways at times -- but I actually found that "Differences between Conservatives and Liberals" article, to be true, though exaggerated. Some liberals just want the entire world to think the way they do; to outlaw what they don't believe in, and allow what they do. For example, "religion has no place in politics". I disagree. They don't think young Islamic men should be taken aside for extra screening, because it's offensive and 'racist', but they do believe that the world should discriminate against people who believe in God? By not allowing His name to be mentioned in schools? By not allowing someone who believes that man was created have a voice in politics? A little extreme, not to mention contradictory... but that's just my two cents.

      • anonymous 6 years ago

        My money should be kept for my self-interest (not selfishness) or given away by me - not the government. My nation who taxes me should protect me from other nations (this is a good thing the government should do). The key to the phrase "illegal immigrant" is the word..hello..."illegal". If they are legal...come on down! :) A person or a government should NOT judge my heart on the things they suppose or assume I am feeling. Just because there are poor people in this country doesn't give anyone - individual or government - the right to tell me to give my money to them (or not give my money to them). I thank wealthy individuals for taking the financial risk to start businesses that require me to work for them. Yes, that person may be selfish, greedy and do wrong with their money. The poor person may learn the welfare cycle/system and may greedily take advantage of that system and stay on welfare when they could very well go out and make an honest living. I was always taught that a private organization/individual could give more money per person than the governament who needs to hire people to push the paperwork around and pay the politicians to come up with the program, legislate it, and pay for a gov't office to mail us our bill. If the government made twinkies, they would cost 25.00 a piece and taste terrible. The point is that government needs to stick with what government does best. And private individuals/organizations need to stick to what they do best. I believe that the hearts of men and women are as a collective (without the constructs of bureacracy) generous. And I believe that a government that performs the acts not meant for government will not be efficient and effective. That's why I'm conservative and proud to be one.

      • anonymous 6 years ago

        conservative but I have some opinions that are liberal.

      • anonymous 6 years ago

        I used to have liberal views but now that I've matured, or it would be more accurate to say 'in the process of maturing', I'm proud to be conservative. Of the people that I know, liberals are more self centered than the conservatives. Maybe it's just where I live. There are nuts and wackos on both sides. I just like listening to people with commom sense and learning from them. People who live a conservative life seem to be much more stable than liberals. Many people I know say a baby isn't human until it is born or sometimes they might say a month or two or so many weeks before birth. This is supposed to make abortion morally acceptable. "Good Grief Charley Brown''! Just think what this world would be like now if there never was the fear of God in past history. It woudn't be a nice place to live.

      • anonymous 6 years ago

        I am a conservative but sometimes accepts liberal ideas when it comes to population and climate change.I am socially conservative and I conclude that progress can be initiated even without liberalism and I want the things just the way they are supposed to be,I want our cultural and traditional ways and heritage be preserved for the next generation.Modernization is advantageous but the excess isn't.~

      • anonymous 6 years ago

        I am a liberal. Almost. I do not belive in gun control. Guns don't kill people. people kill people. If I stab someone to death, are we going to start regulating knifes? If I strangle someone, are we going to ban piano wire? I think global warming IS an important issue, but all our efforts should be on protecting ourselves and other countrys from terrorism. Libya, thats a great example. I think launching a few missles at it is fine. Should there be ground troops. No. This is something that the U.N. and NATO should take care of, right? No. Each missle they launch costs 500 grand. Now I can't remember, how many did we launch? Over 200 in the first few weeks! NATO has again and again proved inaffective, either missing the target altogether, or killing innocent people (recently the dictators youngest son,wife, and three children were killed in a tragic mistake). If it matters, I am also fourteen, but I spend most of my free time studying this type of thing due to my massive amount of free time...

      Glenn Beck - a controversial figure

      This section is probably political :)

      Some of you may wonder why I added this section. Well, to be honest, I was scared of the things he brought up (and continues to do) on his shows, and I wanted to get others' opinions. It seems I have gathered enough opinions (see below) and I may decide to delete this section in the future, but I'll let it stay for now as it has drawn quite a bit of interest.

      Anyway, Glenn Beck is a conservative (he claims to be a libertarian) radio and TV talk show host. I didn't used to listen to him much but a while back someone told me to watch his special series of TV shows (while he was still at Fox). As I said, he brought up some pretty scary stuff. The big question is, is Glenn Beck completely nuts and we should just ignore him, or is there some truth to what he says?

      My take: after watching him for a while I personally believe he is someone who truly loves his country and is doing everything he can to "save" it. However, he tends to exaggerate and have a rather pessimistic view of the future which could give the impression that he is a fear monger. On occasion, he also twists things around a little. So, like he himself says, always do your own homework and don't believe everything everybody says, including him.

      As you know, he is no longer with Fox and has created his own network called The Blaze. It will be interesting to see how that works out.

      Agenda 21
      Agenda 21

      He says this is not a liberal or conservative issue, but a matter of survival especially for our future generations. Is he right, or is he just a scare monger? You be the judge.

       

      So what do you think of Glenn Beck?

      Now share your thoughts but please be civil. Again, any comments from either side containing foul or abusive language, promoting hate/violence or inflammatory in any way will not be posted! All comments need to be approved, so there will be a slight delay.

      After watching his shows...

      I don't agree with what he says

      I don't agree with what he says

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        • My Esoteric 2 years ago from Keystone Heights, FL

          Read James King's post got me to thinking:

          1. Who did God favor more, the Church the Pilgrims ran from, or the Church they established?

          2. Why was the new Church who built the "City upon the Hill" more Draconian and anti-Liberal than the one they left?

          3. Why did the founders of the "City upon the Hill" kick Roger Williams out because of what he said?

          4. Why did Roger Williams, who went on to found Rhode Island, create the doctrine of "Separation of Church and State"

          5. Why is there no mention of God in the U.S. Constitution?

          6. Why does the Constitution specifically bar using religious belief as a criteria for holding office?

          I'll stop here, but there are so many more questions.

        • My Esoteric 2 years ago from Keystone Heights, FL

          I am not sure which planet the old Glenn Beck lived on (I hear he has softened somewhat since leaving Fox), but it is not ours. He, Rush Limbaugh, and Sean Hannity (and probably that liberal commentator on MSNBC as well) all live in a fantasy world of what are probably strongly held beliefs honed to maximize profit.

        • anonymous 3 years ago

          Glenn Beck just makes a ton of money, getting uneducated, conservative, middle-americans paranoid

        • anonymous 4 years ago

          Glenn is a douche that has little credibility! Unfortunately news has become entertainment! I do find it funny that liberals bash Fox as uncredible yet think MSNBC is a fair news station! Also how can liberals say with a straight face that conservatives own the airways! I mean CNN,ABC,NBC,CBS,MSNBC,& the Comedy Central Network! Plus you have al Gore selling his network to the terrorist reporting cell Aljezeera! I mean republicans have Fox and liberals go nuts

        • anonymous 4 years ago

          When he was on fox he had no credibility in my eyes. I haven't seen him since. Then again most people on fox don't have credibility in my eyes :-P

        • anonymous 4 years ago

          I never actually listened to him I like to stay away from conspiracy theorists they tend to use propaganda

        • mcspocky lm 4 years ago

          I think Glenn Beck has done more of a disservice to this country by spreading his lies and exaggerations than any other political pundit I can think of...except maybe for Rush Limbaugh. I was a happy camper to learn FAUX news had let him go.

        • knitstricken 4 years ago

          I don't agree with HOW he says what he says, even more so. I think he's rude and sensationalistic, both qualities I find troubling...

        • anonymous 4 years ago

          Way to extreme, with no value to the political landscape except shock TV. I also feel the same way about Rachel Maddow,both sides have shock commetators and news outlets.its hard to get news these days without them making up your mind for you.

        • anonymous 4 years ago

          The real problem in not that Beck and his ilk are ignorant, they just pretend to be in order to gain the confidence of the ignorant.

        • Mark Falco 4 years ago from Reno, Nevada

          I think this man will do anything for a dollar regardless of who gets hurt.

        • Earnlat 4 years ago

          Beck is a guy that saved himself from a total melt-down. If behaving as he does keeps him from self-destructing, more power to him!! I think he is politically inept.

        • anonymous 4 years ago

          Glen is a complete fool in what he says! I don't know how republicans can believe that crap! Glenn Beck never backs up what he says when he states his "facts!"

        • anonymous 5 years ago

          I don't have any clue who Glen is and I have no intent on hurting anyones feelings but... you all need to stop fighting about who's views are right or wrong and join together to progress as a society. We ALL live in the same realm of reality and we as a race need to stop fighting like a bunch of Homo erctusis fighting over a steak and make this world a better place.

        • anonymous 5 years ago

          Glenn Beck is a certifiable nutcase. He needs serious medication.

        • Normyo Yonormyo 5 years ago

          I do not know Glenn Beck, but I wonder if he is comparable to a mr. Geert Wilders from the Netherlands. Mr. Wilders thinks that all muslims are out to get us. So every follower is an agent for the islam, working to create one world under islam.

          As with most people who think in absolute terms, there is truth in what they say, but it is so distorted there message gets lost. Because if really every muslim was out to help islam become dominant, we now would be at war with the biggest muslim army the world has seen. But as there is no army at the gates, it probably is so that there are a lot of muslims who think it important, for different reasons, that the world becomes islamic. But then christians have had the same idea the last 1500 years. But where is that super army of christians waging war to create a christian world.

          As always if someone goes overbord in his opinions it makes it almost impossible to understand what they want to say. Are they telling us to prepare or do they want us to protect them against their fears. Probably it would be better if people like Glenn Beck and Geert Wilders first would try to understand what their motivation is before they go out and warn us that the end of the world as we know it is near.

        • anonymous 5 years ago

          He is out of touch with world. He seems to want to return to a life style long past.

        • Edutopia 5 years ago

          I used to think that Glenn Beck was some one who didn't believe a word of what he said like the classic snake oil salesmen of yore. However, looking at how he was forced off Fox News and what he has said since then on his radio show and internet programming I've since changed my mind and think he is a true believer of his message - a message more convoluted and warped and a departure from reality than any given episode of the X-Files or Lost.

        • anonymous 5 years ago

          I can not stand him

        • anonymous 5 years ago

          Crazy is a little harsh, I think. I would characterize most right-wing media as paranoid rambling intended to create fear and divide people. We are one America, not just red states and blue states. We have differing view points and that's healthy. Any FCC regulated broadcasters should deliver the truth and be able to prove it. If they deliver something else, then their license should be revoked. Freedom of speech should never be used as a tool to mislead and malign political beliefs in a free society. Broadcasters have a standard which they must meet to be in the public interest. Creating fear and hate is never in the public interest. FOX news has a right to be conservative and to praise conservative values. If they fabricate lies to create ill will towards liberals, they are abusing their powers as broadcasters. Broadcasting is a privilege, not a right in America. That in no way prevents an individual from saying whatever they wish in public, just over the public owned airwaves. Glenn Beck needs to be less sensational, less critical of opposing viewpoints and more respectful of the public's airwaves. We own them and all of us don't share his exaggerated concerns.

        • anonymous 5 years ago

          Does anyone need to explain why he is crazy? Watch one of his shows. His chalkboard conspiracies are hilarious.

        • anonymous 5 years ago

          Glen Beck is basically a cynical demagogue who has found a way to get rich off the ignorance of people who call themselves conservatives but who are really frightened know nothing reactionaries who reject the basic concepts of the modern American social contract. Real Conservatives read the writings of W. F. Buckley, especially his critiques on some of his own stances on issues which he later recanted as well as his critiques on the direction of the modern conservative movement.

        • anonymous 5 years ago

          I watched Glenn Beck's show when it first came out, and though I didn't agree with everything he said, his point of view was still interesting (and sane). But lately, he is becoming more out there than ever. He may have done a lot of research and have a lot of facts but facts and the truth can be distorted, taken out of context, cherry picked to fit anyone's argument. I consider myself an intelligent person and I will try to back up my beliefs with facts and truth, but I am not so arrogant as to think that I am so wise that I can see all ends.

        • anonymous 5 years ago

          He is a disgrace to America and himself! Self centered and arrogant the man is a loony tune!

        • anonymous 5 years ago

          I used to watch him on TV and appreciated the fact that he was discussing topics that no one else was. During his last year, he began getting too melodramatic and emotional, which hurt his credibility. Then he just got scary! Telling people to arm themselves and stock their bunkers for WWIII. He just seemed to go off the deep end, which FOX recognized, and pulled his show off the air. I think he came to school with a lot of potential, missed a class or two, failed some tests, and then just dropped out.

        • anonymous 5 years ago

          I agree with the first Monkey!!!!

        • anonymous 5 years ago

          "When was the last time you read a book on American history?"

          Certainly since Glen Beck (or Michele Bachmann) did.

          There is no posting software with enough space to embark on a disproving of Beck's mishegas point by point. Anyway Liberal/Progressive commentators like Maddow and Olbermann have staffs that have produced reams and reams of factual proof - a truly staggering task to assemble,to be sure. At some point Beck's flights of fancy become so fantastic there ARE no facts anywhere near them - and even a dangerously criminal and cynically misanthropic cuckoo like Murdoch, has to let him go.

        • anonymous 6 years ago

          Be civil when discussing Glenn Beck? I'll try.... Everything that comes out of Glenn Beck's mouth is a waste of breath. An airborne toxic event. He is an idiot and a conspiracy theorist who needs to clam up right now. Was that civil?

        • ChristineRenee LM 6 years ago

          Glenn who? Nobody (except the real loonies) is going to pay attention to him in about another year. The only reason I know who he is is because Jon Stewart does such an awesome job impersonating him. Is his show even on the air anymore? I know he's leaving Fox but I'm not sure when.

        • anonymous 6 years ago

          Here are my results of the quiz:

          You Are 5% Conservative, 95% Liberal

          Social Issues: 25% Conservative, 75% Liberal

          Personal Responsibility: 0% Conservative, 100% Liberal

          Fiscal Issues: 0% Conservative, 100% Liberal

          Ethics: 0% Conservative, 100% Liberal

          Defense and Crime: 0% Conservative, 100% Liberal

        • anonymous 6 years ago

          I say this a conservative site and isn't telling the right things about liberals. Its not right at all for this editor to say things about liberals that aren't fully true.

        • Greenwickpress 6 years ago

          I certainly would prefer not picking such a bombastic title. I would prefer to say, "He is incorrect." Nobody knows his real personal reasons for doing what he does.

        • anonymous 6 years ago

          I have a hard time taking seriously a man who will go on and on about the evils of social programs paid for with taxpayer money and in the very next breath tell you to educate yourself...in the library...because it's FREE!!

        • anonymous 6 years ago

          Um, what research? He usually backs his claims up with nothing. He's repeatedly stated that it isn't his job to back up his claims with facts and he shameless proclaims outright lies. He and fox news drove me from being a moderate republican to a conservative democrat.

        • Kay 6 years ago

          I don't know much about him. Although I am very intrigued by the Tea Party and have heard some great ideas, I'm not a fan of either Glen Beck or Sarah Palin. I'll likely vote Tea Party in the next election UNLESS one of them runs :)

        • Julianne Gentile 6 years ago from Cleveland, Ohio, US

          It broke my heart to discover that people I love worship him.

        • FreddyBenstein 6 years ago

          I know Fox News is one of the most popular news networks around, that doesn't automatically make it the best (or true). Glenn Beck needs to contemplate the phrase: "You're entitled to your own opinions, but you're not entitled to your own facts." I really don't see how fox news has any credibility.

        • anonymous 6 years ago

          He says what he says for the money... he's making a killing off of people believing what he says. He doesn't care what you think or feel or believe he will keep saying and doing what gives him a following. it's really scary that people take him seriously.

        • anonymous 6 years ago

          Change with the times and stop creating fear.

        • anonymous 6 years ago

          Glenn Beck is a moron, plain and simple. I'd normally argue with you conservatives on the other side, but your too captivated by all of Glenn's bull.

        • dessertlover 7 years ago

          Well I wouldn't exactly call him a nut job or liberal hater....what I would call him is an "entertainer". I just find it unfortunate when people take him at face value without factoring in the fact that he is trying to get ratings (it seems these days, the more outrageous the comments, the better). I've seen him twist and turn his opinions depending on which way the wind is blowing at the network he has been on over the years. People take him too seriously and he is laughing his way to the bank with a few fake tears on the way (maybe cuz he is laughing so hard).

        • anonymous 7 years ago

          if a killer is on the loose, what do u do? shut them down. If a idiot is talking mess to a mass audience, what do u do? shut them down. Glenn is entitled to his opinion just like any US person. But if its not positive for everyone, liberal and conservative, then his opinion is bias and don't need to be shown to the masses including towards conservatives. Maybe I need to start my a primetime FOX Blackpanther Talkshow that constantly bashes against conservatives and be my own version of Glenn Beck. I can make it intellectual and popular. How would you like that?

        • anonymous 7 years ago

          Beck goes out of his way to paint all left-leaning Americans as socialists and communists without ever bothering to define those two words. He keeps spreading misinformation about various legislative policy like the health care reform (yes folks it WAS misinformation).

          The right wing is desperate today. The financial crisis, oil spill, mass unemployment and the like threaten the Reaganomics it has espoused for 30 years so they're trying to find ways of shifting the blame onto the left. No serious economics theory I've read suggests that without homeownership assistance programs for families with borderline incomes, the bubble would never have happened. All the program might have done was make an already-bad situation ever so slightly worse.

          And it's insanity to be encouraging central banks to raise interest rates when unemployment is still near 10 percent, especially given our liquidity trap! I'd suggest that if you have trouble believing or accepting some of these hard facts, you should read Paul Krugman's articles AND his blog entries to understand.

        • anonymous 7 years ago

          I think all you Glenn Beck followers would have a different veiw of him if you took the time to research his work on CNN ( I. E. How bad healthcare is in the u.s. ) that was a mere 16 months before he was on fox.

        • anonymous 7 years ago

          all conservitives are in lockstep with the nazi principles of superiorty and one class domination of the world...look at Africa almost all countries have raped this country of people and minerals for their own gain, yet none of the profiteers, America included want to give back to Africa! I admire China for building the great wall and preventing this from happening to them, back when these so-called explorers were colonizing the" known" world. Now the consevatives want to go back to the days of the very people who wrote a constitution that claimed all people like them had rights....(but their slaves had no rights)...to profit from the inequalities of others. Follow the money...

        • LoKackl 7 years ago

          So far I can't bear to watch him enough to have a very educated opinion. But, from what I see he's rather a panderer.

        • anonymous 7 years ago

          Its as if he is unhappy with his job and thinks "Surely today's show will get me canned", but FOX News just falls more in love with him, so he becomes more insane sounding everyday in his efforts to get fired.

        • purplelady 7 years ago

          Everyday I do believe that he gets more and more so!

        • anonymous 7 years ago

          Anyone who compares the other side of the debate to Stalin and Hitler, men who committed such mind numbing acts of evil that it staggers the imagination, because they think that public healthcare system might be better, is in no way "fair" or "balanced."

        • anonymous 7 years ago

          Actually he is not a nut job, he is a very smart man who is making a lot of money out of spouting garbage.

        • anonymous 7 years ago

          I have a lot of respect for the courage with which Glenn Beck stands up for his personal beliefs, but I think that by his attitude and speech he is damaging the reputation of his entire party. He accompanies his points with childish and immature personal insults toward the liberal left (President Obama in particular), and in his drive to relate his views to the people, comes off as nothing more than a raving lunatic who simply wishes to smear not liberal idealogy, but liberals as a group of people. His bigotry and his attitude are not American, and they are certainly not mature.

        • anonymous 7 years ago

          Glenn Beck is a fear artist, he plays with public insecurities and creates a distorted, if not more often incorrect (as in the infamous "cash for clunkers website scam") view of current events. I respect him and I respect the determination with which he defends his views, but the man is simply creating for where is no need for it by espousing hate and bigotry like he does, and in his use to personal insults against the liberal left and even moderate middle.

        • purplelady 7 years ago

          Whether we are out of control in Washington or not, the Glen Becks of the world are not the answer. Anyone who broadcasts the kind of vitriolic rhetoric on the airwaves daily is not answer. Inflaming people to the worst of our instincts will destroy us as an American democracy.

        • anonymous 7 years ago

          If you ever do any of the research that he tells you to, you will often that his facts are directly untrue, or embellished upon. He is college-dropout rhetorician who masquerades as some guy that actually knows something about politics, or anything else for that matter. Off topic - do you idiots know that Jefferson hated christianity, Franklin, Washington, Thomas Paine, and many more are not christian, why do religious people think the country was founded on christian values?

        • anonymous 7 years ago

          che may have been a killer but he looks dam good on a t-shirt

        • anonymous 7 years ago

          Glenn Beck is an outright liar. His Maoist conspiracy theories grow tiresome. Every day the Obama administration does a terrible job? But this begs the question, why not move? Glenn Beck should not be listened to; it is unfortunate that he spews lies to a vast amount of minds. And he has a poor knowledge of American history.

        • anonymous 7 years ago

          He is a fear mongerer. He is on the right channel to spew his venom. Fair & balanced......yeah, right.

        • anonymous 7 years ago

          Beck cannot stand to see President Obama and his legislative agenda succeed. Conservatives should recognize and appreciate that President Obama is willing to abandon his liberalism whenever it is inconsistent with the short term interests of effective government. President Obama has not been a prisoner of ideology or even the mainstream of his party. While Beck and Limbaugh have burned with insincere outrage they have missed the development of a truly great leader. I can feel President Obama's determination to lead all Americans into a better future and that should trump any policy disagreements that any of us may have.

        • anonymous 7 years ago

          Beck makes cringe!

        • anonymous 7 years ago

          I have watched Beck for some time now, I think that if he believes the stuff he spews out 5 days a week he is either crazy, or he needs to take a class in history, people like him don't worry about facts about this country; like the fact that many of our founding fathers were diests, not born again christians. that this is the most religious nation on earth because of the separation of church and state, not in spite of it, the 50's, 60's and early 70's were the most prosperous times in this country because of strong unions lifting many small boats up to the middle class. companies still made money,as they should. and the top tax rate was around 80%. this crated the largest middle class per capita in this country's history, more people buying houses and goods, sending their children to college, and only having to work one job to support a family they actually had time to raise. unlike today. But i don't think he's crazy, I think he's just he's careless with his lies, ignorant of the truth, and wrong. But that wallet sure is fat I bet, huh? And if your a true right winger, isn't that what it's all about?

        • anonymous 7 years ago

          he's predictable. anything to cause a stir and increase the divide between liberal and conservative and all just for ratings. If everyone could just see him for what he is, then all we'd have to do would be to sit back and wait for him to self destruct.

        • anonymous 7 years ago

          Glen beck, Lou Dobbs and several others are hiding behind the curtain of conservatism. in fact these are racist people who ignore the holy book and core values of Christianity. they are bigots and hurting the cause of true Americans. these people uses the definitions of conservatism just to make their case but truly they are racist hate every one else other than their own kind. Liberals does not mean anything illegal, nothing against the Christianity or any other belief. they just don't hate others because they are different.Fox news and Lou Dobbs show on C.N.N continue to spread hate among Americans, bend on disrespecting President O'bama no mater how much the president is trying to do the best for the country. health care reform is needed for America. public option is very important for the healthcare reform. it will make private insurance companies to compete and improve their service and quality. these so called conservatives paid by the insurance industry to block every attempt to overhaul the ailing health care system in this country.shame on Lou Dobbs, glen beck and all others trying deliberately derail the efforts to reform the health care.

        I believe he is telling the truth

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          • Imincollegegivemeabreak 2 years ago

            I was raised pretty conservative but it was always about the values and we actually hated politics, Yes we were very religious but my dad was a pastor until I was in sixth grade, what do you expect? I trusted my dad on everything, and still do, but I don't think he realized that labeling yourself one way kind of shuts you off from the other side. Some people might think that's good but we are at the point were there are conservatives and liberals who are becoming extremists. If we aren't careful were going to destroy each other. I'm not the best educated on these issues I'll admit. I'm not going to get the 4.0 in college I wanted because I'm an idiot and drank a lot. However, its obvious that fighting between each other is just dumb.

          • anonymous 3 years ago

            No one can argue that so much of what he bright to light HAS come to pass. Glenn was spot-on & a Patriot dedicated to educating the sheep who meander around cluelessly trusting MSM & the corrupt Obama administration.

          • KindaIntellectual 4 years ago

            I've always been a big fan of Glenn Beck, I may not ALWAYS agree with what he says, but nonetheless I value his opinion and would have loved one day to sit and talk/debate with him over present political issues!

          • anonymous 4 years ago

            He's crazy but has a point I'll give him that.

          • DavidMichaelRay 4 years ago

            I like Glenn Beck. He's not always right, but I believe he honestly tries to understand things. It makes both sides think he's crazy at times. I respect that. As a practical matter, his views (unbeknownst to him I'm sure) impose their own colors of authoritarianism onto society. But in all, not bad for a top 40 DJ.

          • anonymous 4 years ago

            well, here we are today, 11/19/2012 and whether you like it or not, nearly all that Glenn predicted 3, 4 and 5 years ago has come to life and in exactly the order. So he was either a Psychic, a Prophet, or had some inside information or had gotten his hands on documents that no one should have gotten, but every one should have known. So he presented what he knew in a way that was his own, either so as not to expose his source(s), If you really think about it, was he a nut, or was he terrorfied and desperate.

          • anonymous 4 years ago

            He is no better or worse that Reverend Al Sharpton, who for some reason liberals forget has used the term "faggot" on numerous occasions to attack others. When recently asked about his past transgressions he simply said "I do not use those terms anymore." Ugh. So he still is a homophobe he just doesn't say it. I am a liberal who just doesn't like the hippocracy liberal leaders demonstrate. I believe he is at least staying true to his core beliefs and has no hate for anyone. Anyone can be labeled by soundbites, which is another thing I despise about conservatives and liberals alike.

          • anonymous 4 years ago

            In order to get anything good from watching or listening to Glenn Beck, you have to be patient, fact-oriented, discerning, and intelligent. Beck is like the crazy teacher who seems to ramble aimlessly, filling chalk boards with seemingly unrelated facts, running back and forth, working up a lather, making silly jokes. And then, suddenly, the clouds begin to part, and he almost miraculously ties it all together in an epiphanous observation that is always clever and meaningful, often brilliant. If history-based reasoning is not your thing, it's easy to dismiss him. If you want some good conservative truth-based values, whether or not you share that philosophy, you will get an education watching or listening to Glenn Beck. Not for the sound bite ADHD crowd, more for the political deep thinker.

          • anonymous 4 years ago

            Glenn in an entertainer with right-leaning views - a radio show host - some of his stuff is good....some of his stuff is boring.

          • pylemountain1 4 years ago

            I like Glenn Beck. Although I don't agree with some of his positions, I do enjoy the way he reveals things most peole aren't aware of.

          • anonymous 4 years ago

            Glenn did a great job on fox showing the socialist connections of the Obama team! If you are a liberal I almost Guarantee you never watched his programs and yet all he did was to connect the players in a way no press outlet even attempted or disputed!

          • anonymous 5 years ago

            After reading that "Oh yeah" comment, I think people should read less history and all the war crap and move forward with an attempt at peace. Good luck with that.

          • anonymous 5 years ago

            Glenn Beck is a guy that deeply believes in what he says. He is clever enough to make it entertaining. Every time I fact checked him he checked out. I think left wingers hate him with a passion and are mostly scared of what he says. They are trying to silence him just in case somebody listens to him and will take him seriously. People have called him paranoid and a fear monger, what about the Media Matters guy that thinks people are out to kill him and travels with bunch of goons. Don't like Beck just don't listen, but that isn't good enough for the lib-nazis that must silence him, and there lies a major difference between libs and conservatives. The militant libs will try to silence and discredit anybody with an opposing view, a conservative will just turn off the channel.

          • anonymous 5 years ago

            Liberals are definitely the biggest threat to our freedom today. They seem to only want freedom for those who agree with them. They claim to be tolerant of other opinions, but they call opponents names, they try to shut them down, they try to lump the few bad ones into one group. Their politically correct crap is even scarier. This latest crap with liberals bashing those who stick up for the 1st Amendment right to religious freedom is also very scary. Obama has no right according to the constitution to interfere in religion.

          • anonymous 5 years ago

            As someone who has extensive knowledge on the subject, I can tell you that Glenn Beck is fairly accurate in what he is warning about.....

            unfortunately, many Americans will knowingly, or unknowingly aid the enemy's of America in stealing their freedom, because they simply don't recognize that many in the political Party they support are the problem..

            The good news is that many of us have been prepared for this for a very long time.....

          • anonymous 5 years ago

            I don't really like his rhetorical style. But I do have to admit, his predictions tend to be accurate. His language can seem pretty apocalyptic at times, but his train of logic is for the most part accurate. And when you consider the unprecedented growth in federal power accumulated and debt incurred under President Obama, I don't think its irrational to be fearful.

          • anonymous 5 years ago

            A smart man only concerned about the well-being of the American People.

          • anonymous 5 years ago

            Glen upsets the lefties because he call it how it is not how we wish

          • anonymous 5 years ago

            He is a TRUE ANALYST of the information and puts pieces together better than anyone else on TV. He understands and sees where things are going before they happen and is honest about his analysis and uses FACTS and their own words to back up his analysis rather than opinion..HIS ANALYSIS has a sound foundation where I have yet to find ANY BASE or ANY FACTS at all on the LEFT.

          • anonymous 5 years ago

            I started watching him, because I heard him talk about things my grandpa who lived through Nazi Germany talked of. It surprised me, because I never expected to hear someone else speak of a lot of the crazy things coming down the pipe. There are people who blow it off, because there are some who just do not want to see or hear of it, as it is quite depressing and scary. Some just don't care, and are way too wrapped up in their own worlds. Some don't believe such things could happen, and some want these things to happen, but don't like being exposed as they are by him.

            The stuff he talks about is truth, though yes he does get a bit passionate at times; which can be annoying lol. Ultimately and unfortunately he shows how mankind repeats the worst parts of history, as we are doing now. There are always people who know human history very well, and pay attention to the world and see the dangers coming- they warn of them, and are always shouted down, and called all sorts of names- and then wonder how things became so bad, when the dangers hit.

          • scaguy 5 years ago

            He's mostly on the ball. He does get to worked up at times. He's definitely passionate!

          • anonymous 5 years ago

            Danielle thinks he's pretty cool!

          • anonymous 5 years ago

            Glen is scaring no one but the democrats who are trying to take over this country. Obama is leading a party of whiners who want all that I have but refuse to work for it. Obama has started a class warfare that will nearly destroy this nation. But men like Glen, will tell the truth and enough will eventually believe and stop this takeover and downfall towards communism. Obama hate this country, and proves it every day. Glen loves this country. so do I. Have 2 Marine sons, and I couldn't be prouder. I know the price of freedom. Those on welfare know nothing about this country, and even worse, couldn't care less as long as the welfare check comes. But, oh, now, they have a "card" so we can't tell them from real tax-paying Americans. Slimeballs. If liberal means welfare, count me out.

          • anonymous 6 years ago

            I like Glenn Beck. I do not always agree with him, but I think that he is a thinker, and does his homwork. I also think he really believes in what he says, unlike many other pundits. Some people think he is an idiot, others worse, but I don't care, and neither does he. This is what I like about him. I also think he has a pretty good sense of humor.

          • Nicole Pellegrini 6 years ago from New Jersey

            I think Glen Beck sometimes has interesting things to say and I've agreed with some of his points. However, I also think often he goes too far into la-la-land and I don't agree with all of his viewpoints. So I'd say he's telling the truth - to an extent. But I never trust anyone in the media to tell me the WHOLE truth, anyway....

          • anonymous 6 years ago

            Social issues: 50/50

            Personal Responsibility: 50/50

            Fiscal Issues: 100% conservative

            Ethics: 25/75

            Defense and crime: 100% conservative

          • anonymous 6 years ago

            He is quite clearly telling the truth with thoses stats of his. But what i would like to point out, and this links back to the anti-liberal joke on this website, is that Liberal, when their political views were critisised, said that the site was conservative and portraying liberals in an unfair light. It's not. And i believe the media, especially in Australia where i come from, portrays conservatives in a bad light far more often.

          • anonymous 6 years ago

            So long as you call Beck a "nut job" without proving him wrong I can only think the intolerance is with you and not Beck. The truth hurts sometimes, even when told in an entertaining way. Liberals are not hated, liberalism is.

          • anonymous 6 years ago

            OK you guys. I have been waiting for some concrete evidence as to why Glenn Beck is a liar and hate monger and so far all I have read is name calling. Your like a bunch of grade school kids spouting off. "Your Mother wears combat boots"" Stop with the character assassination and lets hear some facts. What has he said that isn't true? And while your at it look up this word," äd hominem"

          • anonymous 6 years ago

            I say you are all a bunch of nut jobs. You liberals at least kind of admit that the progressives are the real communists/Marxists. Whats really troubling is that none of you really respect the idea of true individualism, which is where real freedom lies, thats where the real conservitives are, and they are real libertarians, not liberals like you are indoctrinated into believing. Read about the founding fathers and you'll be free. Yeah they even suppressed and oppressed certain people but that was the way of the day and they always believed in changing it in the very near future, but certain sacrifices had to be made in order to maintain the economy of the day, most of which isn't necessary today. Remember the Cotton Gin? It was rendering slavery as obsolete but never came to trrition because some people wanted war in order to control the masses.

          • anonymous 6 years ago

            OK Greenwick Press and what is it that Glenn says that is incorrect? And Alex, what is he saying that is incorrect? And Freddy Benstein, you are saying you are not entitled to your own facts. When and where did he say that?. He says all the time to do your homework. Have you? Liberal by heart I guess its easier to attack a person's character and intelligence than to do your homework and check his facts. What I'm trying to get at here is this. If you don't agree with someone you attack the person's character rather than attacking what that person has said. Is this intelligent debate?

          • anonymous 6 years ago

            OK, So I have read on this site that Glenn Beck is a conservative nut case and a fear monger. So can the author of this piece please explain why he has called Glenn these things? Can you give me some concrete reasons based on proven fact why you call him these things?

          • anonymous 6 years ago

            Liberals are trash. American Conservatism is far better. And for the moron who said "Progressives have been on the right side of most issues I can think of, from unions, regulatory agencies, GI Bill/FHA to gay rights, legalizing pot, rescinding Citizens United and the environment." That is not right. Pot does damage to the brain and unions are as bad as the corporate people they seem to hate. The Conservatives are correct on most issues. Liberals have destroyed the American family with their filthy welfare policies and their "relaxed" ways of life. They have, in the past, attacked the U.S military, meanwhile, they uphold those who seem to hate America. Glen Beck tells the truth that the filthy, anti American Liberals hate to hear.

          • anonymous 6 years ago

            I dont care who you are, if you have video proof of things you talk about, then Im listening. The truth has no agenda.

          • anonymous 6 years ago

            I'VE NEVER BEEN SO INFORMED AND EDUCATED ON OUR AMERICAN GOVERNMENT AND I HAVE ALWAYS GONE TO OTHER SOURCES TO CHECK HIS FACTS. AS OF YET, I TRULY BELIEVE HE IS THE MOST VALUABLE VIEW OF A RADICAL GOVERNMENT WE HAVE EVER BEEN SO UNFORTUNATE TO HAVE! HE TEACHES US TRUE AND VALUED HISTORY AND CURRENT VALUES OF JUSTICE AND UNJUST REASONING THAT IS CURRNTLY UPON US AS A NATION. HE IS ATTACKED BY THE LEFT BECAUSE HE HELPS EVERYONE LISTENING TO HIM TO BE AN OBSTICAL FOR PROGRESSIVE IDEOLOGY. BECK IS A ROADBLOCK TO THE LIBERAL, SOCIALIST, PROGRESSIVE AGENDA. I PERSONALLY CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT HIM TO WARN ME AND EDUCATE ME. AS A CHILD OF A SURVIVOR OF WWII NAZI REGIME, I AM VERY VERY VERY SCARED FOR OUR FUTURE AROUND THE WORLD. AMERICA WAS TO BE A SAFE HAVEN...INSTEAD THE EVIL THAT ONCE THREATENED US AS A PEOPLE THREATENS US ALL! OBAMA SHOULD BE OUSTED AS PRESIDENT BEFORE IT GETS WORSE. TAKE A HARD LOOK AT VAN JONES!

          • anonymous 6 years ago

            Glenn always has all the facts listed, and you can look them all up for yourself. He tells people how he thinks things are, gives evidence, and even encourages you to check out the sources! He doesn't hate liberals, he just disagrees with their positions, and he shows with history why liberal values do not work.

          • anonymous 6 years ago

            Glenn is one of the good guys i watch his show all the time and think god we have some one out there that can speak the truth

          • anonymous 6 years ago

            Glenn is one of the few people out there willing to say if like it is. People have forgotten history, and it will repeat itself, only here in the old US of A

          • anonymous 6 years ago

            "Glenn Beck is a conservative nut case, a fear monger and a cry baby who claims to be patriotic but he's doing all that just for ratings and to sell his books!"...This guy is like many others that buries their head in the sand, and refuse to admit our country is in trouble. The guy between the quotes is what's wrong with America today.

          • ModernEconomics 6 years ago

            He pushes for facts, I am reading his book arguing with idiots right now and wanted to check some of the sources and they are what he says they are. How can the people who think he's crazy sit here and say he's trying to promote himself, these are clear facts that he says. He is trying to help the people of this country, when did we become a people that stopped learning from history? Everything is backed up by studies and and history.

          • anonymous 6 years ago

            aside from his "machinations", and sometimes "slapstick" mannerisms, I think his messages are spot on...he backs up his work with publications

          • anonymous 6 years ago

            Glenn Beck is neither Left or Right Wing. He has exposed the Progressive agenda that has infected both parties...Republican and Democrates...

            Glenn challenges his viewers to read and fact check what he is saying. He is constantly saying don't take my word for it...check it out. The reason for this is the other medial outlets spin their stories or don't report them at all.

            I say you have not watched Glenn Beck or very little. My challenge to you is to watch 2 weeks of his show. This is what I did with Keith Oberman. Now here is a guy going through life with blinders on.

          • anonymous 6 years ago

            Liberals are always trying to smash Glenn Beck, but in reality they are mostly bringing themselves to an even lower level. At least he is talking about a political situation, liberals are just talking about how conservatives like him are unfair. (Like Rachael Maddow and Keith Olbermann)

          • anonymous 6 years ago

            I canot believe someone that takes Paul Krugman for face value can make any comment on Glenn Beck.There are no bubbles in a true free market society. History has proven that all are created by government involvement.

          • anonymous 6 years ago

            You may not always agree with his delivery and he may go over the top but his message is spot on.

          • anonymous 6 years ago

            I have just read all comments under the "he is a nut job..." column and i realized not one person has put a single fact out that he is not trying to wake america up.. Liberals simply imply their opinion and emotions

          • dfrandin 6 years ago

            He's the only Conservative speaker who is also worried that the Obama will stage something between now and November that will allow him to declare martial law and silence all media but for his pets in the MSM...

          • anonymous 7 years ago

            I believe he is telling the truth espically when it come to textbooks because alot of the material he talks about isnt in them. He also backs it up with facts too. Although I will say that he acts a little crazy but then again with the stuff he's uncovering I would be too.

          • anonymous 7 years ago

            Everyone that hates him should watch his show for at least a whole week. I can promise you, if you listen to what he says and forget your bias, you will have a different view of him.

          • anonymous 7 years ago

            More power to him!

          • anonymous 7 years ago

            I believe he telling the truth. While sometimes i am not sure he is right, or he may have stretched things a bit, he is trying to wake the country up and restore our country. I believe he is one of the greatest men in America alive right now.

          • anonymous 7 years ago

            if you believe Glenn Beck made an incorrect statement then show it here. But i'll save you some time. You can look for days and the only thing you will might find him wrong about will be too insignificant for you to embarrass yourself in listing. His research team is exceptionally thorough to the great consternation of the destructive left.

          • mickey54 7 years ago

            I like Genn! He does do his homework!

          • anonymous 7 years ago

            He has the right to his option. if you don't like it change the channel. I find this so true.If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches the channels.

            Liberals demand that those they don't like be shut down.

          • anonymous 7 years ago

            He is just stating the truth. You people that can't accept the truth are the same type of people that were so easily manipulated by the nazis and commies. You think that government and authority figures will always tell you the truth so you believe what ever they tell you to believe rather than seeking the truth on you own.

          • anonymous 7 years ago

            He's trying to educate the masses and the left must discredit him because he's telling the truth. There are actually a lot of parallels between nazism and liberal positions, he just exposes them. If there were no comparrisons then he would be a nut ball, but he's right.

          • anonymous 7 years ago

            Glenn Beck is NOT a nut job. He is factual yet entertaining...and he is smart enough to know how to draw in viewers (why do you think Fox has him on?). What I don't understand is this: if liberals hate him so darn much, then why do they watch his show, or Fox for that matter? I look at all of the various liberal/progressive blogs and see how bad they slam him and Fox (FUX/FAUX) News...yet where is the debate? He shows actual clips of people CLAIMING to be socialists, but where are the liberals/progressives willing to challenge him (??).

            I don't agree with everything Beck has to say, but I applaud him for seeking the truth and for not being afraid to speak his opinion. I get extremely ticked off when the progressive/liberal bloggers call anyone who is conservative and watches Glenn Beck an "uneducated moron". If they took a moment to look at the demographics of the average Tea Party member, they'd see that the majority have a high school or college degree (and many have advanced degrees). I am a professional in the clinical research field (with an advanced degree)...someone who is conducting research on the medicines that will someday help millions of people...and I'm offended over the left wing media's depiction of this movement. I was a loyal follower of ABC News until I WOKE UP and realized how far they slanted to the left. I turned to Fox news to get a dose of the TRUTH. Hate or love Beck (or Fox)...he has captured the minds of millions and he isn't going away anytime soon. If you don't like what he has to say...CHANGE THE CHANNEL!!

          • inspirationtoda 7 years ago

            Truth is stranger than fiction. That's why a lot of what he says seems strange,

            and he is simply dismissed as a nut job. That's a lot easier than dealing with the truth.

          • anonymous 7 years ago

            when i first watched beck, i thought he was a loon [based on the MSM reporting of him] but since all he does is expose the truth --such as SELF PROCLAIMED communists, he' pretty credible.

          • anonymous 7 years ago

            Everyone on the left is avoiding that Beck actually states FACTS. He doesnt manipulate it or twist it. And for the way he presents it, he wants people to take, what the liberals in the white house are doing, seriously. Im sure most liberals believe the Mao thing WAS just a joke, and just laughs it off. But I sure the hell wouldn't, in such a place of power, be joking about my idol being a man like Mao.

          • anonymous 7 years ago

            Glenn tells the truth, but liberals wouldn't know it because they will have nothing to do with the truth. I find it amazing how the liberal media has so poisoned the minds of the American public that they can't even recognize the truth. Glenn is trying to wake America up before it's too late. Sarah Palin and others are doing the same. And just look at how they get trashed for their efforts. But spew a bunch of lies on a daily basis (ala Obama, Reid, Pelosi...etc.) and watch the lamestream media promote you as a role model.

            Until liberals get honest, I'm throwing my support behind Glenn Beck,

          • anonymous 7 years ago

            In history, it is ironic that the viewpoints and credence of both of these political sides have fundamentally seen sway at the turn of FDR's reign.

            The "liberal" is now the "statist", who seeks to grab more power for the state and impose more taxes, turning the idea of taxes into legal theft. The "liberals" in Washington are certainly not "open-minded", otherwise we would have solved our energy-dependency issue years ago.

            The "conservative" is now the "liberal", who fights for the Constitution, which argues several points that John Locke would have argued hundreds of years ago. The "conservative" may want a return to older principles, but it is because of those principles that freedom has flourished.

            More history: "Liberal" Democrats were behind the Jim Crow laws in the South.

            I don't think Glenn is the best source of information, however I find that he is far better than Kieth Olbermann.

            Take a history class and do your own research, then take position behind who you feel is more spot-on. The lesser of two evils in this case is by far a better decision.

          • anonymous 7 years ago

            fact is that washington is out of control , our leaders are not taking our country in the right direction, spending thier way into What ? It dose work for your home it not work for the Country . They get Rich on our dime , while we get poor. And them goes for the Reps and Dems have been very bad for US

          • anonymous 7 years ago

            Beck does his research and is good at tying threads together. He saw the 2009 recession coming in late 2007 before anyone else even mentioned economic problems. He may not be 100% correct, but he's been closer than everyone else in keeping track of what may happen. Beck also does not put words in people's mouths, he plays entire clips so that context is maintained and his target presenst their entire dialogue. He's not afraid to be the target of the media, he doesn't let other talking heads back him down. Then after all that, he tells his audience to question everything, including what Beck says. He tells people to go do their own research.

          • anonymous 7 years ago

            I will say this about Beck. This guy cares about the future of our country. He ain't got the balls to get into Government! Or does He? If there were sensible folks like him in Government and not all partisan and stuff then we would be better off! Go ahead and trash him, you haven't got the balls to get involved to the extent that he is! I hate Americans that sit back and criticize any and everybody for this and that. Why can't you come out and help the country. You run scared, of your job or anyone that might see your name out there. You are scared to tell folks what you are! You're afraid that someone won't accept you as a Liberal or a Conservative.... Anyways this guy ain't afraid of it. He comes out with his family and all and tells these Morons running America today that they are Morons! We just sit back and tell our little stories about how much we know about how our country should be run! Come on folks,,, what do you think George Washington have done if he was a chicken (bleep) like us. He damned sure wouldn't have risked his life to cross the Delaware on that cold and dreary night now would he? God Bless these folks that have a voice in the wilderness,,, they keep us on our toes, even the Libs keep listening to him so they can understand their enemies! I like ole Glenn Beck, he ain't scared of the (bleep) in government! Later Ted

          • anonymous 7 years ago

            Obama is all partisan and trying to destroying America from within. Until Brown, 41 got Mass. Obama didn't even care about listening to those that opposed his partisan actions.

          • anonymous 7 years ago

            There is a ring of truth to some of the things that Beck says. Yes he tends to go far over the top of reality. I would like to point out however, that Fred Blanche pointed out exactly what many conservatives are trying to say about Pres. Obama, "willing to abandon his liberalism whenever it is inconsistent with the short-term interests of effective government." Conservatives wish that our President was more worried about the long-term interests of the people whom he leads.

          • anonymous 7 years ago

            To those that still think it's cool to wear a Che t-shirt... would you still think so if he had killed your loved one? Would you also wear a t-shirt or a cap with Hitler's picture or a swastika on it?

          • anonymous 7 years ago

            I believe that he is telling the truth. No one has heard the White House challenge any of Beck's claims and Beck has backed everything up with support. Glenn is on a mission to protect our "freedoms" that liberals don't see as rights. What people forget is that Beck attacks republicans to when they go too far right. He wanted Bush impeached but that's forgotten in order to make him appear bias which is another liberal deception.

          • anonymous 7 years ago

            Glenn is a true blooded American. I think he is spot on most of the time with his program, and he brings a compassionate side to his show that not many others have. I fear for my children and grand children to be left with all this debt. How will they ever pay it back? When will it end? The people of this great land need to wake up and get off their rears and start defending the constitution! Which is what Glenn does on a daily basis! Oh and by the way, go Scott Brown!

          • anonymous 7 years ago

            I am a proud American. We (the American people) hire Government officials expecting them to possess high standards. If they don't, we include them in the 10% unemployment figures. My understanding this is conservatism, label me a "Conservative"

          • anonymous 7 years ago

            We need more people like Glenn.Wake up America, its time to take back our country.I think George Washington and Thomas Jefferson are rolling in there graves. GOD BLESS AMERICA Joe from Wevmouth Mass.

          • anonymous 7 years ago

            I do what he says on his show. I get off the couch and look up what he says for myself. And, most of the time I find more information that he had on his shows. It kinda scary what they are doing to us, but parties.

            Question with Boldness.

          • anonymous 7 years ago

            Glenn beck is just trying to raise awareness about the fact that our country continues to spend money, putting us more and more in debt. He is angry because President Obama continues to do things that Glenn Beck disagrees with (obviously). However, you have to understand that Beck is angry with our country's situation and just doesn't have a good way of.. er, expressing his feelings in a calm manner. He is not, however, crazy or racist. He doesn't hate the president bcause he is black, he hates him because he disagrees with him. Glenn beck critisizes (s.p) white people (i.e Nancy Pelosi, Joe biden, etc), also. Everyone he "hates" is a liberal (usually.) It has nothing to do with their race, gender, and so on.

            i'm only 15 though. haha so what do i know? Just my opinion. Feel free to agree or disagree.

          • anonymous 7 years ago

            This man is standing up for Americans. he knows the difference between right and wrong. he also seems to know his history very well because he states that this country was founded by christians not by muslims, so therefore, we are a christian nation. he is not a racist, he is just stating the obcious that you must make efforts to be succesful because the government will not do it for you.

          • anonymous 7 years ago

            i believe that glenn beck is very passionate and has many points worth noting

          • anonymous 7 years ago

            Glenn Beck is an libertarian, and his show reflects what he views are dangers in being a statists. After reading this blog and the comments, it appears to me that few individuals really understand that a political ideology is not as simple as saying one is a liberal or conservative. By the way a liberal is not a libertarian. I would suggest that people consider taking the test at www.politicalcompass.org. to really understand their political position.

            NOTE THAT IS DOT ORG not dot com.

          • anonymous 7 years ago

            I am sick of hearing if you dont like Obama you are racist, GET OVER IT!!! Look what Obama is doing, Nationalized Health Care!? I have a friend that came to live here from Italy (the 2nd best health care system in the world) to live here for 2 years, I asked him about their awesome Nationalized health care and he said "Its OK just dont get hurt, it is much better here." Obamas policies is for the people with their hands out. I am a business owner who makes great money and I had no better opportunity than anyone else, I wanted something and worked to acheive it. If the people who founded this country were liberal it never would have been the USA because they would have waited for someone else to do it.

          • anonymous 7 years ago

            You want to call Beck a nutjob, fine.BUT, since he almost ALWAYS shows the Video of the person being discussed doing EXACTLY what he is claiming.... And you on the other side then say he is wrong, then you are in DENIAL!!! And, when shown in living color the evidence to back up a charge, if the person being shown the FACTS then still denies such..... WHO then is the crazy person???? If I tell you a dog is biting your leg, you look and SEE a dog biting your leg.. then get into an arguement with me to DENY you are getting bit..... ummm, I hate to break this to you, but, you are INSANE!!!! Sorry....

          • anonymous 7 years ago

            I've been watching Glenn for a while and anyone who says he's a crazy racist who smears liberals is crazy. He does NOT smear people. Van Jones blamed his resignation on Glenn's "smear campaign". Well, some news for Mr. Jones... GLENN WAS USING YOUR QUOTES!!!!! He tells the truth, and these days thats rare in the media. He give facts, quotes, and constitutional reports in an unconstitutional time. People claim he is a democrat hater and just like republicans. THOSE PEOPLE NEED TO WAKE UP!!!! If they had ever given his show a chance, they'd hear him yell at Bush and the republicans too. He thinks BOTH parties are horrible. He's asking why the PEOPLE are doing this; he's not. When Bush did this or that, everyone freaked out. Now Obama does the SAME THING and it's suddenly okay. The people also called Bush a Nazi and a Communist, but when Joe Wilson called Obama a lier (which Glenn and I say was wrong) AND APOLOGIZED, everyone is STILL FREAKING OUT!!!! Maybe you guys who think Glenn is crazy should actually LISTEN to him instead of the main stream media who thinks everything this administration does is good for the US (which God knows it's NOT).

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              Vortrek Grafix 3 years ago

              @sudokunut: I like you comment SudokuNut. "Liberal", "Conservative", Socialist", "Capitalist" and really just semantics. At face value semantics are more political than they are practical. Being open-minded enough to recognize and\or work towards common ground is what counts. I like to think of that as "utopian pragmatism" (*grin* yeah I know more semantics - but it's meant well)

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              Vortrek Grafix 3 years ago

              You were quite right in the earlier part of this lens. The meaning of "True liberalism" is lost by many, whether conservative or liberal (by their evolved meanings that is). Logically (in the philosophical context) a liberal supports any lifestyle, behavior, practice, etc which does not produce a victim. Simple really. And yet so many people object to others deviating from what they consider "the norm". True liberals recognize that most standards the arbitrary product of value judgements adopted from environment and habit. As long as those standrd do not harm anyone else, then they are neithe right, nor wrong, relative to anyone else's standards. Liberals may not particularly partial on a personal level to things such as: gay marriage, religion, tattoos & piercings, various music\art styles, etc, but they tolerate whatever they may not find peronsonally appealing because to do otherwise is to suppress liberty. Many people are too focused on their own life preferences to have a true liberal mindset of tolerance for differences in value judgements.

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              LegitGuy21stCentury 4 years ago

              There needs to be an option for being independent. Not everyone is strictly democrat or republican.

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              anonymous 4 years ago

              Good lens. I can remember an East Indian woman who became a US citizen and was one of the nicest people I worked with. She was always giving. She had a lot of "push back" because of stereotypes about her beliefs and culture. To make a long story short: one day in frustration she asked the "Rodney King" question: Can we all just get along? (she wrote the question on a board) And someone anonymously wrote in huge beyond 52 point letters: No

              Why does it seem it takes catastrophic events in history for people to "come together" on critical issues: what's that about? There are just some people who hate "civility".

              Love your lens.

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              DavidMichaelRay 4 years ago

              Good lens. It's not even about liberal vs. conservative any more. That's a total smokescreen. I wish people would wake up and stop buying it. It's about authoritarianism vs. liberty. Conservatives impose the authoritarianism of the corporation and liberals impose theirs by way of government regulation and control. It all sounds like some big fight but the end for both is the same end -one side helps the other, because the fight never ends, and because the conservatives' consolidation of corporate control allows an easier focus point for the liberals' government to control society, Consolidationism wins, people lose. Choose your master.

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              anonymous 4 years ago

              @PeterStip: Coming from the UK, I really envy an America that thinks Socialism is a swear world. Unfortunately, we are now seeing the result of 13 years of it here. The problem with it is, that the lazy and the stupid eventually run out of the rich's money. It's like a giant ponzi scheme.

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              MiaMusement 4 years ago

              I kind of avoided clicking on this lens, but I'm pleased to say you did a good job of describing both your views and giving voice to the alternatives. Even though my political opinions are very much in line with yours, I appreciate that you showed aloha to others' opinions. We liberals are a bunch of push-overs, eh? ;-)

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              PeterStip 4 years ago

              As a European, both liberal and conservative seems to me both quit right-wing.

              I'm an socialist, but reading a lot of comments on the internet, it seems to me this is still a swearword in the US. American politics...I don't get it... I'm happy though that Obama won. A president with a brain, and he uses it.

              Great lens though.

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              anonymous 4 years ago

              @anonymous: You can always tell a liberal b/c they like to label anything they disagree with as "hate" when they are spewing the hate as badly. Time to grow up. Both conservatives and liberals are fearmongering, hippocrit, race baiting aholes. I am true liberal. Pro-gay marriage, abortion, gun ownership, increasing helpful programs (but more than just handing out cash.) Keeping the government out of our business should be a priority. Most Politicians are liars and crooked. Voting themselves pay raises more than the cost of living every chance they get. absurd. Its funny that other liberals don't see Reverend Al Sharpton as a hate mongering ahole. A guy who on tape several times calls people 'faggots'. Hippocracy at its finest.

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              Mark Falco 4 years ago from Reno, Nevada

              This great divide between liberals and conservatives is a wedge which has been manufactured by both parties aided and abetted by our generally inept media for their own personal gain. People on both the left and the right have way more in common than they are led to believe. I've yet to sit down and talk to a single conservative and not find common ground upon which we both agree, in fact, I'd say we differ on maybe ten percent of the issues and yet if you listen to the political noise machines you'd think we were two separate alien species.

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              Kathryn Grace 4 years ago from San Francisco

              @ratetea: You've said it very well. Listening to other points of view is not as difficult for me as is keeping an open heart. Too often, when I feel others are unwilling to listen to or consider my viewpoint in exchange, especially if they are shouting theirs, I close my heart and mind to theirs. It is a challenge I face and work to overcome every single day.

              It is especially interesting to see the more thoughtful comments on both sides on this page, and how often, it seems, we want quite a few of the same things.

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              Kathryn Grace 4 years ago from San Francisco

              I thank you for the TED Talk video, especially. It is easy to lose sight, in the face of the deep divisions in our country, divisions I feel deeply myself, as well as all the negative news, how far we have come and how far we might go, if we survive the 100 years.

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              ratetea 4 years ago

              I've never fit very well into the mold of liberal vs. conservative, and I don't like the way the Democrats and Republicans have such a lock-hold on American politics. The one issue I feel most strongly about is respect, and I don't see either party standing strongly for respect. I think it is important to listen to people with a broad range of views, including people who disagree with you, and I think ultimately, we could solve more of our problems if we started thinking outside the box instead of trying to identify as (or label everyone as) liberal or conservative.

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              Harriet 4 years ago from Indiana

              I wish there was a party that combined the best views of the liberals and conservatives. Both parties have good and bad ideas, but the bad seem to be dominating more and more and I almost hate to vote.

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              anonymous 5 years ago

              I took the test, my results: You Are 50% Conservative, 50% Liberal

              Not surprised, as a Libertarian I would have expected that.

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              WriterJanis2 5 years ago

              This was very interesting to read, especially with all of the comments.

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              anonymous 5 years ago

              First, I like your ideas much better than the thousands of right-wing conservatives that all started a political websites with exactly the same content - namely "talking points" from Fox News and Hate Radio.

              However, you can always tell a web site is being run by a person with a right wing slant by simply looking for a few KEYWORDS. Ex: LIBERAL, SOCIALIST or trying to redefine the dictionary definitions of the words LIBERAL or CONSERVATIVE to fit the Fox News propaganda. Progressives, Democrats, and other Lefties will never use the word "liberal" to describe themselves - it's a dead giveaway that a right-winger is behind the text.

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              anonymous 5 years ago

              @anonymous: If you witness a botched illegal abortion where both lives are lost you will become a liberal.

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              anonymous 5 years ago

              @anonymous: If we are a Christian nation then we can blame Christians for the murder of all those Native Americans, the enslavement of African Americans, the murder of 3 million people in Vietnam and the continuing murders after 10 years of war against Afghanistan. Your "Christian nation", should "go to hell".

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              anonymous 5 years ago

              @anonymous: If government was the largestclient of Medical services then their would be do medical industry without government help. I get my great medical from the great socialized medicine provided to veterans in Long Beach Calif.

              Medical care is expensive not because of civil service workers overseeing it but because of the billions paid to the CEO's of insurance Corporations. and the profits paid to stockholders, non of which are in the Veterans Administration.

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              anonymous 5 years ago

              @anonymous: Then why do all countries with government healh care pay HALF what we do per capita for higher-rated results? Talk to a medical tourist, and you find for major procedures, it;s more like 10X the price here - including most drugs.

              It's no coincidence that reent studies proved privatizing a government function doubles its cost. Someone gets that profit, and it's not a majority or even plurality of te citizens. It's far LESS, in fact, than one percent of them (us.)

              We pay our "doctors" an average of double what oter countries od, and the result? The former "calling," or "profession," now attracts the type of "professional" who runs a pill and/or 'scrip mill. Though I don;t claim t's 100%, it;s provably rampant copmared to say the 1950's. They're attracted to the profit possibilities, not the job of healing. That's why Medicine (and many others) need to be nationalized, and the privatization of things like defense, law enforcement, prisons, Justice, and even lawmaking, need to be renationalized. We can't aford the overhead, the profit, and the gross economic inequality.

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              anonymous 5 years ago

              @anonymous: Conservatives believe in small goverment to help the corporations who already bleed us dry. Defense is just another privatized business, anothjer way to get the treasury to help corporations maximize ther profits in the world, and with our tax money, earned by actual work..

              Most people are helpless before the power of large corporate industry, and even the wealth of smaller business owners, or even the something-for-nothing investor/gamblers on Wall Street. What they have in common is the business "ethic" that anything is worth doing if there's profit in it - and its effect on others and society; even its legality, is irrelevant compared to that profit justification.

              That;s why people banded together to form government - to pool their money and power, to protect themselves AND EACH OTHER, from what the individual could never afford to do.

              I believe that problem at the time (of foundation) was evident enough to go to (Revolutionary) war over - the perversion of that core defiining government purpose, by Queen Elizabeth 1's "charter " of the East India Tea Company - the first official merger of corporate and government power, and the first formal incorporation.. And that was Mussolini- its INVENTOR-'s definition (not Webster's) of Fascism - the merger of government and corporate power.

              America EXISTS to fight fascism - not to succumb to its greed.

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              anonymous 5 years ago

              @anonymous: Thank You, RHytonen

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              anonymous 5 years ago

              @IanMayfield: Or even non mortal enemies. Even friends disagree.

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              anonymous 5 years ago

              @anonymous: How to become 'socially' liberal in two seconds: Meet someone right after a botched illegal abortion, and watch them die.

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              anonymous 5 years ago

              @anonymous: I never suggested you had. This thread is hierarchically arranged as a response to "James Prescott's" June 9 post, above.

              And, if I were to list the facts I've checked/had to check, it would be the longest post in the history of the internet. And those on the AARP politics forums for two years or more would probably agree that I would be breaking my own record there. Unfortunately much of that was lost when they changed their forum S/W (& not for the better,) dumping some very heated (and very informative) archives from 2008-10. I assume the R vs. D wack-a-mole will continue there when DLA Piper (AFP's money launderer)starts cutting conservative online shill/troll " 'Big Lie' Machine" checks again. I'm not sure I'll be up to it this time. Anyway I think their assumption that seniors are gullible to such things, is as misguided as the dubious stats that most seniors vote R. Who living on social security (or about to,) votes to have it abolished?

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              IanMayfield 5 years ago

              @anonymous: Astonishingly, it is possible to have differing opinions on things without being mortal enemies.

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              IanMayfield 5 years ago

              @anonymous: This assumes that it is or should be a competition.

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              anonymous 5 years ago

              @anonymous: Thank you Rhytonen. Well said

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              anonymous 5 years ago

              @anonymous: I have not claimed or even hinted that conservatives and liberal pundits are the same or equal. Have you checked any facts ? If so what are they?

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              anonymous 5 years ago

              @anonymous: The attempt to equate liberal and conservative pundits only escapes derision if you don't check facts.

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              anonymous 5 years ago

              @shellys-space: And I used to trust business not to do certain things that are patently (and rightfully) illegal for an individual. I am fearful of corporations and the fact they run the country and create the laws for their own profit.

              That means robbing and plundering (technical term cf: Bastiat, just another word for Fascism "=govt+industry," Mussolini) the other 99% of the country, using the force of law and police to defend and create more of that power and money for that few.

              Business is too powerful by itself, that's why we formed a government to control it and protect us from the absolute profit motive and the irresistible abouse by the riches/power it creates. That loop of money=power=more money, needs to be broken and controlled, any way necessary - or else you get.... what we now have. Fascism.

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              anonymous 5 years ago

              @anonymous: Don't let anyone ever tell you what is the right think to think, I'm sure you know how to make your own choices.

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              anonymous 5 years ago

              @pawpaw911: There is no need for anyone to work together in a meaningful way, is there. Who would they be working together, against ?

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              anonymous 5 years ago

              @anonymous: What is it that you want to change ? Do you want everyone to conform to a single opinion on one or all things ?

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              anonymous 5 years ago

              @anonymous: I don't think that anyone makes money out of promoting differences or sewing dissention. Media hosts have no difficulty finding persons who are already different and dissenters before they appear on any show. This country is devided, and there is no need for unity of agrrement on all or any issue. Differences and dissent is the glory of our freedom of expression. It is those who want to get rid of differences and force unity who are the true enemies of freedom.

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              anonymous 5 years ago

              There are people who make a lot of money promoting differences between people and heir views. Most people are not all conservative or liberal or progressive or anything else. Most people hold views that incorporate parts of all ideas they consider benifical to themselves and their country. Americans are more open minded than they're given credit for. The divison of ideas is exploited for profit by talk show hosts and other irresponsible media personalties who have no intention of discontinuing to sew dissention as long as it pays well. It is a small but vocal minority that listens to and lables themselves according to these derogatory entainers. One can only hope that that their ill advised retoric and gutter positions loose favor and income before their influence does much more damage to the country they profess to love.

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              anonymous 5 years ago

              @anonymous: Watching an abortion on camera or even live wouldn't change my opinion about the right of a woman to choose what happens to her body, regardless of if the pregnancy resulted .by rape incest, or failure to use a contrceptive. Ask a woman. If you as a man do not want abortions do not have any. What about all the sperm that are aborted without the chance to meet up with an egg ? Those lives lost are thousands of times more numerious than "unborn babies."

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              anonymous 5 years ago

              Deport the illegal killing gringo aliens from Afghanistan.

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              anonymous 5 years ago

              @anonymous: Children born in wedlock also get subsidized by the government by way of tax deductions and other free services, including education. Don't worry about some $5,000 check that people get that you think do not deserve it. It is a much bigger problem that thousands of people earn millions/year and only have to pay 15% like candidate Romney.

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              anonymous 5 years ago

              @anonymous: Don't be frustrated, just be awaire of the fact that you do not have to believe the judgment of any person known or hidden, on these internet pages.

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              anonymous 5 years ago

              Well. so far my words have been allowed by the gate keeper here.

              "Terrorism is the war of the poor, and war is the the terrorism of the rich"

              ---- Sir Peter Ustinov ------

              Deport the illegal killing gringo aliens from Afghanistan. We can't win that war and it is very expensive in money and lives lost on both sides.

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              anonymous 5 years ago

              @jEsChrDs82: "No offense" ? ? Freedom of speech requires that people usually will be offended.

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              anonymous 5 years ago

              If their is supposed to freedom of expression in this country, why do we have to submit to approval by, who know who.

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              anonymous 5 years ago

              @anonymous: No we are not all on the same team, in either foreign or domestic affairs.

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              anonymous 5 years ago

              How to become socialy conservative in five minutes: watch an abortion performed on camera. If it wasn't for this one issue millions upon millions of so-called right-wingers would unite with the rest of the country on many issues, and it would be a stronger, better nation. The division on this one issue will only become worse, unfortunately.

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              R Toney 5 years ago

              We The People... there is no label in that, i don't know why insist on labels now

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              anonymous 5 years ago

              The founders never intended a Theocracy. They were in fact forming a country that was neither theocratic (Example:Iran,) nor corporatist (what the ORIGINAL tea party was against - The merger of the power of Queen Elizabeth I's Britain and the East India Tea Co.)

              The fear of some midwestern states of winding up under Sharia law is just as preposterous as the possibility (or advisability) of our winding up under Judeo-Christian "Law," for one reason: because our Constitution FORBIDS it - remember that

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              anonymous 5 years ago

              Neither. Being one or the other is the problem with this country. Until we realize we're all on the same team, nothing will ever change.

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              Shelly Sellers 5 years ago from Midwest U.S.A.

              I used to be liberal when I was younger, but have changed to conservative in my old (HA) years. I am registered as an independent and do not plan to change to D or R. I am fearful for the debt, unrest, and the widening split in America today.

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              Edutopia 5 years ago

              Your closing is especially prescient in this day and age. Since the Kennedy/Nixon race the two major parties have increasingly relied on identity and tribal politics to win elections, meaning more and more people are not voting FOR something but rather AGAINST something.

              With each passing election both parties have played a game of brinksmanship to the point where now with Republicans in the minority position have come out with truly bizarre, wildly divergent from reality, positions to attack the Democratic party with. I fully expect that the next time the Democratic party finds itself in a minority position they'll push the envelope one step further, too.

              Politics and a functioning government isn't a football game. The goal should never be to ensure the other side loses but to find the best solution agreeable to the most amount of people that still protects the rights of those who disagree with the majority opinion.

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              jEsChrDs82 5 years ago

              Great post, made me think which side I really am. I still think I'm neither of the two, as I always see myself neutral, but it looks like I'm more conservative than liberal which I strongly opposed, no offense :)

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              anonymous 5 years ago

              I'm frustrated with the quiz as it says I'm more conservative than liberal but it's an interesting test.

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              anonymous 5 years ago

              Interesting lens. On that quiz, I got 85% liberal and 15% conservative.

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              anonymous 5 years ago

              I stumbled on this site while trying to figure out if my son and daughter in law are truly, truly, liberal. What I have found out instead was that most people are neither, I consider myself moderate, but in fact if tests are accurate, I would have to say I am conservative. I am indeed a Republican that is not impressed with the choices we have at this time. But if I were a Democrat I would feel the same way. My thinking on the whole thing is that everything is controlled by the need for power and the love of money. There are too many people in the political arena that have never worked in the private sector so unfortunately they have no understanding of how ordinary people actually live and survive. Most do not understand that couples that want to have children, have them out of wed lock in order to have the government pay for them, then schedule weddings around tax refund time, so they can use their refund checks for weddings and honeymoons. I work for a financial institution and income tax season is a very sore subject at work, the average check for a single mom or single dad is 5000. These people do not pay in this kind of money so where is the money coming from???? I have to pay 500 a month for health insurance, not to mention a big deductible, but so many of these same people have a 'get in quick, leave for nothing' card. This is why I am conservative, I want to work and control my own life.

              I wish we could have leaders that understood this, but there is no way they do because the ones that want us to 'live green' do not live green! They jet from one corner of the globe to another, they create non-sense laws that make them feel they are helping the less fortunate.

              I am not fooled by this push to tax the rich, does anyone have any idea how much much some of the politician are making? These new so called changes will not tax these rich because there will be too many loop holes and exemptions or they just won't pay their taxes until someone points it out when they are running for a higher position.

              I don't care what your sexual orientation is, I don't even care if you choose to kill your unborn child, I just don't want to have to pay for it.

              I don't care if you don't want a gun in your home, just leave mine alone. "When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns".

              I can't understand why so many people were more excited over the fact that "America has change" because we voted in a white/black man for president. Don't vote the color, vote the qualifications!

              This is a FREE NATION! If I want to vote Democrat even though I am Republican, I am voting Democrat! My husband considers himself a Conservative Democrat, he has not voted Democrat since the 70's.

              My parents were stance Democrats, I tho't my Daddy would have a heart attack when at 18 I registered as a Republican, but what can I say, he raised to make up my own mind and be independent and stand for what I believe, so that is what I did and what I continue to do.

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              IanMayfield 5 years ago

              The behaviour and attitudes of neither the "liberals" nor the "conservatives" of the modern US bear much resemblance to what those political movements traditionally stand for; and it only makes things worse that one of these labels has become attached to the Democratic Party and the other to the Republican Party.

              I'm a somewhat dispassionate observer of American politics because as a permanent resident I can't vote, but incline towards the Democrats, even if they are taking a devilishly long time to figure out that Republicans have no interest in compromising on anything whatsoever and need to get stuffed.

              Republicans talk a good game and like to portray themselves as competent, sensible managers and their opposite numbers as naive, childish idealists, but very few of their positions actually stand up to scrutiny.

              "Conservative" bloggers also have the annoying habit of avoiding honest debate by claiming that their arguments cannot possibly be refuted, then censoring you when you do.

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              kittitianhill 5 years ago

              Pretty good post. I just stumbled upon your blog and wanted to say that I have really enjoyed reading your blog posts. Any way I'll be subscribing to your feed and I hope you post again soon.

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              anonymous 5 years ago

              I consider myself being more liberal than conservative. Unexpected things happen where change needs to happen. I refuse to vote next term because of the unnecessary mess I was taken through over the past 4-5 years. People have rights that should be respected regardless of what they stand for that will not hurt or harm others or themselves. Doing things the traditional way when an unexpected thing happen in your life causes STRESS and stress kills. NO thanks...

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              GrowWear 5 years ago

              Neither liberal nor conservative. Just me. ...Beck is being paid to spread hate, disharmony, and misinformation. Would recommend that folks do their own research about what is happening both with OWS as well as with this global crisis we're in by reading some Gerald Celente, who gives his expert opinion about our current economic condition. Minus the hate-filled rhetoric. Hope Beck can sleep at night earning his dollar through hate and fearmongering.

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              PTurner56 5 years ago

              The obstructionism continues in Washington, and what is the point? The obstructionists are only making themselves look bad; no, worse. All theyâve done since 2010 is say no, no, no. Why? Are they that afraid of a second term African American President? Really? That makes me ashamed of being an American. Iâm embarrassed. This is not the Country I thought I lived in.

              Previous contentious administrations did not inspire confidence, but I donât remember people hating each other like they do now. Itâs scary. My confidence in this Country is dwindling fast. As long as the fighting continues in Washington, no one is benefitting; we just go on suffering.

              Why are you obstructionists being so stubborn? Whatâs the problem? Whatâs the point? Do you have no heart for anyone but yourselves? Really? Wow⦠I know that talking to you would be a waste of time for both of us, so the only thing left to do, in order to save ourselves, is to fight. I see revolution coming. Donât laugh, think about it. Demonstrations are going on all over the place; it reminds me of the sixties. We are experiencing turbulent times. I hope we come through it. And I wish I were more hopeful.

              Isnât that sad?

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              anonymous 5 years ago

              On rereading the header's premise, the author's presumptive definition here of what "Progressives" believe is probably the least accurate definition I have ever read.

              This "lens" thus casts serious doubt on its design as well as its implementation,

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              anonymous 5 years ago

              The definitions of "liberal v conservative" by almost all posters here, and even the author of the site, prove without a doubt, that almost NO American who announces one of these orientations has the slightest idea of its true formal definition (much like those of Fascism, or of Socialism.) Apparently for much of America today, fact-free media repetition intended to vilify or lionize and even redefine various views, obviously for profit, "defines" these terms; rather than the accepted norms of language.

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              Tolovaj Publishing House 6 years ago from Ljubljana

              Interesting lens, in Europe we understand liberalism or conservatism slightly different, I have feeling in America all is more or less show for voters. Well, Europoliticians are working hard to become more similar to their American role models...

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              anonymous 6 years ago

              @pawpaw911: I agree. one side is clearly right, and the other saturated with money interest.

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              Nicole Pellegrini 6 years ago from New Jersey

              This is a great debate page and I really enjoyed it. I appreciated that you didn't just fall into the typical liberal vs. conservative divide but acknowledged the Libertarian standpoint, which is personally my own as well. And it can be tough when it seems like neither of our major political parties wants to listen to a socially liberal/fiscally conservative point of view. They end up alienating a lot of voters like myself that way.

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              pawpaw911 6 years ago

              I don't think liberals and conservatives will work together in a meaningful way in my lifetime.

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              sushilkin lm 6 years ago

              Its very nice to read your lens. Thanks for sharing. Contribute your like for -PRAY FOR JAPAN

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              Pete Schultz 6 years ago

              the problems the world face are essentially because liberal and conservative perspectives swing to the extremes either way. We need to have voices of moderation to balance the extremes. very interesting lens.

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              Kay 6 years ago

              Definitely some interesting perspectives on this lens. I value those who are willing to listen to another's opinion without putting them (or their ideas) down.

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              Julianne Gentile 6 years ago from Cleveland, Ohio, US

              I enjoyed this lens. Nice work and Merry Christmas!

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              Liz Mackay 6 years ago from United Kingdom

              I'm British. Our Liberals and Canservatives are in coalition at the moment. I'm not really interested in politics. I just live my life and vote but don't feel my vote makes any difference. But this lens is blessed by a squid angel and featured on Me?!! A Squid Angel.

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              Vicki Green 6 years ago from Wandering the Pacific Northwest USA

              A great duel about US politics. I especially liked how even-handedly you treated both sides of the issue instead of being blatantly biased toward one point of view. Instead of name-calling and demonizing each other we all need to listen and be respectful of each side's point of view. Your closing comments said it all: "Therefore, liberals and conservatives should work together for the good of the country". Blessed by a SquidAngel.

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              ModernEconomics 6 years ago

              You should really change this to libertarian instead of liberal. I am a libertarian with a lean towards conservative on some topics, but you are def a libertarian, not a liberal in today's meaning of the word.

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              mywebcontent 6 years ago

              This is an interesting lens... I think that there are good points to both sides - maybe libertarian attempts to do that? In any case, I would love to see a lens that covers that. In the end, everyone wants the same thing however. We all just get stuck on how to accomplish it.

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              RebeccaE 6 years ago

              I have read this with fasination, as I am not from America, teh whole "liberal" and "conservative" thing means something different here. We in fact have two poltical parties, names the liberals and teh progressive conservatives (aka the conservatives) but both ideaologies are center a bit to the right. So, this was a great lens, bravo.

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              anonymous 6 years ago

              Nice lens,love it!

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              anonymous 6 years ago

              this is very difficult cause i agree with different things on each side so what does that make me is there a grey area?

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              anonymous 6 years ago

              I am a conservative.

              As all, I am passionate about my views.

              My only comment is---

              What a great web-site! I'm glad I stumbled upon it! thanks!!

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              dessertlover 7 years ago

              Personally I don't really consider myself a liberal or a conservative. I'm more of a use your frickin' head kind of girl....I don't know when common sense got flushed down the toilet, but both parties could use a little of it these days (in my humble opinion of course). GREAT lens! Maybe you should add a love or hate Jon Stewart module to offset the one of Glenn Beck. I think the results would be very interesting.

              P.S. Kudos to you for supporting CAER Food Shelf....one of my favorite charities too:)

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              anonymous 7 years ago

              @anonymous: There is more going on than opinion swapping. People are making demands for other people to turn over their property - their goods, their wealth, their stuff. By what right do they do this?

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              anonymous 7 years ago

              @anonymous: Are you saying that one person's need is a legitimate claim on the private property of another? I need something so you must give me some of what you have?

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              norma-holt 7 years ago

              Great debate but USA focused. *-*Blessed*-* and featured on Sprinkled with Stardust and also on charity-lenses-for-summer-sunshine-giveaway

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              anonymous 7 years ago

              it's funny that when you look at both sides, they both make sense. obviously not in EVERY aspect but for the most part they do. i think it's interesting to look at both sides of the issue. however, it's even more interesting to have your own opinion BEFORE you heard the opinion of a "conservative" or a "liberal." that way, your opinion is your opinion an no one is telling you what's the RIGHT thing to think.

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              anonymous 7 years ago

              At this point in time and in our society, I don't think humans are capable of knowing the REAL truth. Indeed we are intelligent creatures but honestly; only God knows what is true. Some things that are blown out of proportion here on earth may not even have that much of a significance to God. I think it's ridiculous to go into the different sides. Labels are not needed. Every person has their own opinion. That my friends is the keyword: OPINION. I personally can't even listen to the global warming argument any longer. You would think science would give us a straight up RIGHT answer but it doesn't. Half the SCIENTISTS say its true and half the SCIENTISTS say its not. So is science even that reliable? We're constantly hearing of these new scientific discoveries that are disputing old ones. To wrap it up: I have my morals, my values, my faith, and my opinions. You have yours. Sharing everyones' differences doesn't do much because it's hard to change a person's opinion. This website is good for research purposes, finding the stereotypical definition of a certain label, or just VIEWING the numerous thoughts that are out there. We are so tiny compared to this universe. There is something greater than us mere human beings.

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              VSP 7 years ago

              Great idea for a page. I'll have to comeback later when I have more time to read and add input.

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              LoKackl 7 years ago

              Enjoyed the discussion and compliment your success in creating balance! I'm glad to see a 50/50 (nearly) of L-C voices on Squidoo. SquidAngel Blessed!

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              anonymous 7 years ago

              @anonymous: A lot of nonliberals are human and are for health care. It's just that they aren't for it the way it is currently set up. Why is that so hard to understand? To throw the shoe on the other foot... Why are nonliberals who are against the "OBAMA" health care plan labeled as uncaring?

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              kab 7 years ago from Upstate, NY

              "If you like the health insurance you have now, you can keep it just as it is." ... yeah, um, only if my employer decides to keep it just as it is. On the other hand, he could just join the gov't plan which would not be nearly as comprehensive.

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              Virginia Allain 7 years ago from Central Florida

              @anonymous: It's a real shame that fear mongering has poisoned people's minds against health care reform. The bill isn't perfect, but I know real people suffering under the current situation. They need help!!!

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              Virginia Allain 7 years ago from Central Florida

              I see you're getting lots of responses on this. Hopefully you won't get hate mail like members of congress are.

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              anonymous 7 years ago

              Can't believe you have to be liberal in the US to be for health care. How about being human. Just caring about your fellow man. I can't speak for all of the Western World but having health care, in the two countries I have spent my life in, is not am issue but a necessity of life.

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              Carol Goss 7 years ago

              What a great lens, I never really knew what I was till my son told me I was a liberal. lol

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              Deb Kingsbury 7 years ago from Flagstaff, Arizona

              Me, I just don't like labels, and I personally never fall neatly into any category. But this is an interesting discussion, and you've certainly gotten some good feedback. Well done!

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              Heather Burns 7 years ago from Wexford, Ireland

              I've always been a Libertarian. Limited government, personal responsibility, low taxes, follow the constitution.I do not believe the government should tell us what to put in our own bodies, who to sleep with, where to go to church or who we worship.Also don't believe they should try to legislate morality. Don't believe in lobbyism, do believe in the free market and that it should be allowed to do its job. I think both parties have lost their way. My motto has always been: Vote Libertarian, money back guarantee.

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              fedoria 7 years ago

              You have interesting point of view!

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              anonymous 7 years ago

              @anonymous: I thank God, that he has placed me on this earth to cancel out your vote. You are obviously parnoid, and can only regurgitate the tripe put out by ideologues, such as Rush "Oxycotin" Limbaugh. Please, we had eight years, of destructive and devisive Republican policies. It is time to bring back order and civility, to our democracy. The Republicans destroyed the economy, decimated the budget surplus, and led us into two wars, so please don't talk to me about the country going to hell in a handbasket. The Republicans did a fine job of that, for the last eight years. It is hard to maintain a civil tone when I read tripe like this.

              Hidden agenda, that was what President Bush had, when he went into Afghanistan, the real agenda was Iraq. Not caring for the future of our children, then why did the Bush administration squander the budget surplus he inherited, when he took office and leave the U.S. with a 1.3 trillion deficit? Another one of your quotes..." befiore we lose some of our freedom..." The Bush administration took away more of America's freedoms, than any other President, in history. Son, I will pray for you and all the other misguided souls who share your uninformed beliefs.

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              anonymous 7 years ago

              I am doing my best to speak out to the American people to vote for the conservative party in 2010. Plus, I am trying to get the diehard Democrats to see Obama for the so-called leader he really is before it is too late to take back our country in 2010. I am sure you have taken notice to the fact that the country is fed up with all the frivolous spending and Obamaâs hidden agenda and are ready to fight back. I praise the fact that there are some good people in the world like you to help protect us from the corruption. I sincerely hope the Tea Party Express can help us in accomplishing this goal before the next election in 2010. If we do not take back control now, I am not sure our country will ever recover. I beg you to continue fighting for us regarding the health care reform bill, cap and trade bill and the other damaging bill still yet to come prior to the election (immigration reform must also be stopped to maintain any ounce of safety in our country and prevent the illegal immigrants from obtaining American rights since they came to our country without the proper authorization-not to mention this bill would likely improve his odds of maintaining control over our country). Dick Morris mentioned in his book "Catastrophe" that Obama will likely try to inflate the census totals in 2010 to help him gain a better chance of keeping the majority control in Congress. He must be stopped because I have never seen our political arena in more scary times as I have seen them right now. I have stood behind the Republicans ever since I could vote and do not plan to give up on the party without a fight.

              I continue to have faith in the Lord and know he will come through for all his people. I would never envision it any other way in today's depressing times. In an ideal world, we would have a Democrat President and a Republican President so both parties could follow the people who they felt would do a better job representing them. Of course, the Democrats would have to take the full responsibility for their share of the debt in the world since the Republicans are the more conservative group. I could never see the Republican Party performing the type of evil acts on the American people that the current administration is doing to us. They are letting us all down in so many ways and it is really sad. Personally, with all the events taking place in today's time I would not be surprised if God is coming for us soon. I just do not think it is right for the Democrats to put this much tax burden on the American people for many years to come. I think most of the damage will be done by the time we are hopefully able to gain control back. I can only hope we are able to undo some of the terrible bills they have managed to pass along the way. I have never seen a group be against the bi-partisan agenda in all the years I have been alive. If all else fails, I know some people are even hopeful that one day Texas can secede as a separate republic from the other states. I am proud to be a Texas Republican!

              It is clear that Satan is under attack regarding the current political agenda in our world today. How else can you explain the demented minds of those in Congress and the White House? Under Obama's current hidden agenda, he is stopping at nothing to pass all these bills that include frivolous spending and, I am starting to think he enjoys making the American people swarm and beg for mercy. He is turning our country into a huge mockery and everyone needs to wake up before it is too late. I guarantee you over time the health care reform bill and the cap and trade bill will both only result in nothing but trillions of taxpayer dollars being wasted and nothing else will be gained. The most frightening thing is that all the diehard Democrats are oblivious under Obama's control and I am puzzled by the fact that they can stand and support someone who continues to threaten our country and hire these prior criminals to represent what we stand for in America. America will never be the same after the current administration has done all the damage to us. I pray more people take a stand against all of them in the 2010 elections and vote for the conservative smart party rather than this corrupted party with a hidden agenda only out to destroy all of us and our country if they truly care. There is plenty of evidence in the world today via books, Fox News and the other media sources available to anyone. Let's stand united with each other and force them to stop all the frivolous spending before we raise the bar even higher on our deplorable debt. God Bless Our Nation and pray God helps us take on the enemy before we lose some of our freedom. I believe we all want to live in a control-free environment, so no one should back the Democrat Party any longer. If they want every hard earned cent to go toward failed bills and have the Government control every aspect of their life, then they need to please reconsider their priorities.

              I hope you all have a happy and prosperous new year. I praise God to the Republican Party for fighting for the American people (unlike the sorry Democrats) and for listening to us. Most of all, I feel sorry for all the future generations who will be paying the price for all the corruption in the world right now. It is like they do not care about the future of their children and grandchildren. Sad! I continue to pray everyday that we get our country back on track so we can all live with a better piece of mind in todayâs struggling times.

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              lasertek lm 7 years ago

              Nice debate! The liberal & conservative sides have both good arguments and it is pretty difficult to decide which is better than the other. It is important for a person to consider a few things before deciding which side to go for.

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              anonymous 7 years ago

              [in reply to boshemia] Bohemia...you took the words right out of my mouth....well said....

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              Rhonda Albom 7 years ago from New Zealand

              Interesting debate. Squid Angel Blessed.