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# Navy Nukes and the Navy Nuclear Program

## The Navy Nuclear Power Program

This page is about Navy Nukes and the Navy Nuclear Program. I hope to give you information that you may be looking for but haven't been able to find.  When my son entered this program I looked for information and discovered that it wasn't readily available.  Everything I could find about the Navy Nuclear Program is here on this page.  If you are thinking about this program or you have a loved one who is, this page should give you some of the information you are looking for. If you have questions, scroll down and check out the comments in the guestbook because there are several responses from those who have "been there and done that."

Photo is of the USS George Washington (photo taken by US. Govt employee in the course of their duties and therefore public domain)

## Navy Nuclear Power School

### Navy Nuclear Power School, "Nerd Capital of the World"

U.S. Navy Nuke School

They come with IQs off the charts and ASVAB scores that number higher than their life expectancy, but that's what a 22-year-old needs to succeed when he's asked to run a nuclear power plant on a U.S. Navy warship

Gibberish. To the average "idiot," this talk is nothing more than gibberish: "Twenty k is 2R and 20k in parallel with 20k is 10k," says the man in a white lab coat, scribbling on a chalkboard as fast as he talks. Twenty-five students look on, seemingly absorbed. "To determine the voltage out we consider that the step is Vin over 3R, times one half to the N, times feedback resistance. N is equal to the number of nodes slash digits; therefore, the Vstep is equal to (Vin/3R)(1/2)n(RFB). Based on that, who knows what the step voltage is?"

A dozen hands go up. For these young men and women - students at the Naval Nuclear Power Command, Charleston, S.C. - the gibberish is decipherable; for them, digital to analog conversion is easy. They could do it in their sleep.

This is a great article about the Navy Nuclear Program and Navy Nukes. You can read the rest of it here: US Navy Nuke School

## US Navy Nuke, If You See Me Running, It's Already Too Late

### This is my most popular Nuke design.

We know that the Naval nuclear reactors we operate are some of the safest in the world, but your friends don't! Generate some interest among your friends with this hilarious shirt.

## Eligibility for Nuclear Power Program

### How to qualify for the Navy Nuclear Power Program

The Nuclear Power Program allows those who qualify to gain a solid understanding of science and technology as well as the ability and confidence to operate advanced nuclear propulsion plants around the world. Only the most qualified candidates are selected. Basic qualifications for the Navy Nuclear Power Program include the following:

U.S. citizenship;

High school diploma or college degree;

Successful completion of one year of high school or college algebra;

Qualifying scores on Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery (ASVAB) and an advanced placement test if necessary;

No older than 24 years on date of enlistment;

Meet physical standards;

Sound moral character.

Source: United States Navy

## Tell me about you! - Are you a service member? Do you have a loved one in the military? Veteran?

This isn't really a poll, maybe more of a survey. Take the survey and feel free to leave me a comment in my Guestbook about yourself or your loved one in the military.

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## Specialties in the Nuke Field

### EM, MM, & ET

Want to support your rate? Show your loyalty with these unique rate specific T-shirts!

## The Nuclear Training Pipeline--An Overview

### What you can expect in the Nuclear Power Program

Recruit Training, Great Lakes, IL

2 months

"A" School, Charleston, SC

Electronics Technician (ET) - 6 months

Electrician's Mate (EM) - 6 months

Machinist's Mate (MM) - 3 months

Nuclear Power School, Charleston, SC - 6 months

Math Review

Math (Algebra, Trig, Etc.)

Thermodynamics

Reactor Technology

Intro to Physics

Nuclear Physics

Metallurgy

Reactor Operations

Rate Instruction

Nuclear Prototype School,

Ballston Spa, NY or

Charleston, SC - 6 months

Nuclear Propulsion Systems

Nuclear Plant Operations

Qualifications

From Prototype some MMs will go to Engineering Lab Tech School or Nuclear Welder's School Program

From Prototype some will go to NROTC, Naval Academy or BOOST Program and then into the Officer Training Pipeline

The rest will go to a Nuclear Carrier or Submarine. They are assigned to the Engineering Department of a Nuclear Powered Carrier/Submarine for Nuclear Operations Advanced Qualifications and Training.

After 21 months of service and completion of training they are eligible for re-enlistment and up to a \$60,000 bonus.

Source: U.S. Government Publication

## What is a Nuke?

### According the the Urban Dictionary:

A definition of "Nuke" from the The Urban Dictionary

Nuke

A US sailor, either enlisted or commissioned officer, who has successfully finished the US Navy nuclear power pipeline and is qualified to operate the nuclear power plants aboard aircraft carriers or submarines.

Prospective nukes are subjected to intense scrutiny and higher standards of behavior and technical knowledge than your standard sailor. They are the elite of the elites.

Nukes often advance quickly through the ranks due to the amount and intensity of training they are subjected to while as a student.

Nuke school is widely considered to be one of the toughest schools offered in the military.

A: So, what do you do in the Navy?

B: I'm a nuke.

A: Wow.

B: (with much hubris) Yeah, it's tough being the best of the best.

## F.A.Q.

Be sure to scroll down to the bottom for more Q & A in the comments section.

Question: What's the difference between them MM, EM, and ET rates? -Thanks to Nate's Mom

Answer: Machinist Mates (MM) are responsible for piping systems and turbines, and any other mechanical systems, if you know which way to turn a wrench you'll fit in here. Electricians Mates (EM) run the power distribution system and make sure the lights stay on all over the ship, if you like breakers and transformers, this is the rate for you. Last but certainly not least Electronics Technicians (ET) arguably the smartest of the Nukes, they control the reactor and the safety systems, if you're comfortable with circuits, wires, and control boards you'll be at home in this challenging rate. It should also be stated that you may not be able to choose your rate, you get an input but they may put you where ever your ASVAB score suggests you would preform the best. If you score especially high on the mechanical portion for example, you may ask for ET and get MM.

-Thanks go to my son for this answer

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Question: Are Nukes able to get off the ship in foreign ports or are they stuck on the ship? - a great question from Thinking of Nuke

Answer: While Nukes are always on a tighter duty rotation than the rest of the ship, and may get less days off than other rates, I never visited a port I didn't get a chance to see and thoroughly enjoy. - answered by Tahoehawk

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Question: My boyfriend is joining as Nuke, how much time will I be able to spend with him? How long will he be gone once he gets to his ship? Can I live with him on base? Will I have base access while he is out to sea? -driving questions from navygirlfriend89

Answer: Unfortunately during the pipeline, your boyfriend will have very little time off. It is very difficult on couples. Out to sea time varies greatly, deployment is 6-8 months long on average, but there will be several underways of different durations for a myriad of reasons. As a girlfriend you will not be able to live with him on base, however if you at any point get married, he will be able to move off base with you. Additionally you will not have base access as a girlfriend, as a wife you can receive a dependent ID and have base, Nex and commissary access. -These complex and important questions answered by ET3 B. L. Gay

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Question: Can anyone give my son advice on joining the Nuke field? -question from Craig

Answer: If he can get ET he will in all probability advance faster, and have better options at civilian plants should he so choose. The nuke field can be challenging, so he should be certain he wants to do it. Don't let your recruiter talk you into a job you don't like, look at all the facts and pick what works best for you. -comprehensively answered by Daniel, Kathy A Vines , and Derek

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Question: What can I expect going in as a Nuke? -Asked by FreeJayPatches

Answer: First, you will go to bootcamp, it can be tough, you would be well served to keep your head down and not stand out here. After bootcamp you will be assigned a job (Rating as its called) and go to A School, 6 months for EMs and ETs, 3 months for MMs. After that 6 months of power school and 6 months of prototype. Then to your first command. If you work hard and stay out of trouble this will be challenging but not overly so. -Thanks go to kathystauffervines, Steve, and Derek for the prompt replies.

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Question: How are the sections arranged in power school? -asked by Heather

Answer: The sections are arranged in a logical order, they lay a ground work with a math review, the add a knowledge of physics Thermodynamics and Chemistry, Materials, and Radcon, then move in to Reactor Principals, and your rate specific class covering what you'll need for your specific job. -Answer well covered by Wends and Derek

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Question: Is it normal to have to wait for an opening in the Nuke program? -from George Totherow

Answer: It isn't normal and I would absolutely question it. After talking with my son however, he had this happen. He was initially contracted as Advanced computer and electronics field, until they got the new numbers from his detailer. -Answered by ET2 McFarland, Derek, Kathy A. Vines, and input from my son.

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Thanks for all your great questions and helpful answers. Be sure to keep them coming and we'll get as many answered as possible.

## I'm a Navy Nuke. What's Your Superpower?

Yeah we know we're awesome. Let every one else know it too!

## Transitioning out of the Navy?

### Check out URS Energy and Construction

Are you a Nuke transitioning out of the Navy and looking for a civilian job? Here is the contact information for URS. Patricia tells me that what they are searching for in the Navy Nuke program is Electrical / Mechanical Repair Troubleshooters that can work in their Industrial Plants as Repair Specialists.

Patricia Neuhalfen, PHR

Six Sigma Black Belt

Recruiting Division

URS Energy and Construction

411 Hamilton Blvd, Suite 1810

Peoria, IL 61602

(309) 676-0699

(309) 621-3300 (Cell)

(309) 676-5068 ((Fax)

## Mettler Toledo Product Inspection Division

### Looking for Transitioning Nuke EMs

Mettler Toledo Product Inspection Division is looking to hire transitioning Navy Nuke EM's for Field Technician positions across the US. Interested applicants should send their resumes to pi.hr@mt.com you can also visit our website at www.mt.com for further information on open positions.

## Life Aboard an Ohio-Class Trident Submarine

### What can I expect while serving on a submarine?

A nuclear-powered Ohio-class Trident ballistic missile submarine (SSBN) (also known as a "Boomer") is one of the most modern and complex ships in the Navy. The largest of the submarine fleet, the SSBN has a crew of 15 officers and 148 enlisted men.

Each Trident sub has 14 nine-man, U-shaped bunkrooms, serving as the crew's main living and sleeping areas.

A closed-circuit television system shows prerecorded network programming, sports, and movies. The library can accommodate about eight people. The lounge is big enough for 15 crewmen. Physical fitness is still a priority and hydraulic weight equipment, pulleys, treadmills, rowing machines and stationary bikes are available. Excellent meals are served in a spacious dining facility.

Source: Government publication

## What is Power School like? - US Naval Nuclear Power Training Command

### Nukes are working hard and deserve your support!

There is the idea that Nukes have it easy, playing golf and eating dinner with the captain. We can lay that myth to rest. They are the first ones on the ship and the last ones off. Are you a proud Mom, Dad or Wife of a Navy Nuke? These guys and gals are working super hard to get through their training or they are working hard in the fleet.

## Navy Books - The Bluejackets' Manual

The Bluejackets' Manual is a popular book, written in 1902.

The Bluejackets' Manual

In 1902 when Lt. Ridley McLean first wrote this "sailor's bible," he described it as a manual for every person in the naval service. One hundred years later, it continues to serve as a primer for newly enlisted sailors and as a basic reference for all naval personnel--from seaman to admiral.

## My Heart Belongs to a Navy Nuke

### For the Wives, Sweethearts, and Doggies

Show your support for the Nuke who holds your heart with these beautiful T-shirts and gifts! Doggies love their Navy Nukes too you know.

## Navy Nuclear Power School

### Information on the Navy Nuclear Program

Are you thinking of joining the Navy in the nuclear program? Here's some information on Wikipedia that might help you make your decision.

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"Naval Nuclear Power School is a nuclear engineering school operated by the U.S. Navy to train enlisted sailors, officers, and KAPL and Bettis civilians for shipboard nuclear power plant operation and maintenance on surface ships and submarines in today's nuclear navy. Due to its depth and fast pace, it is regarded as one of the most difficult academic programs in the world rivaling nuclear programs at such universities as Harvard and MIT."

Naval Nuclear Power School

## Power and Light, For Nukes Working on Aircraft Carriers

### Available For All the Carriers

The airwing gets most of the credit, but lets be honest, its the Nukes who keep the lights on! Everyone on a ship thinks their job is the most important, but without the Nukes, the ship never leaves the pier! The nukes make the steam that powers everything on the ship.

## Got Zoomies?

### What are Zoomies?

What are Zoomies? Perhaps the Urban Dictionary can be of some help. "Slang for the invisible particles and energy emitted by radiation at Nuclear Power Plants. 'I picked up a lot of zoomies today at work. The little suckers are everywhere.'" Nukes are regularly tested for radiation to make sure they are within safety limits.

For all those proud Zoomie collectors, there are these cool T-shirts!

Not planning on joining the Navy anytime soon? Here's a sneak peek into the life the Navy leads.

## "Carrier" A Series on PBS

### Doesn't deal much with the Nukes but you can see what life on a carrier is like.

My husband and I watched all 10 hours of Carrier. We enjoyed it immensely as we were able to get a glimpse of what life will be like when our son joins the crew of a nuclear aircraft carrier as a Machinist's Mate.

It seems that a lot of it is about attitude. It is what you make of it, as are most things in life. Some of the crew were unhappy and thought they had made the wrong choice by joining the navy. Others loved their jobs and all the benefits that go with it. The separation from family and friends was hard on all of them. Some families and relationships couldn't stand the strain of separation while others seem to manage.

Near the end of the deployment they made a stop in Hawaii and those that wanted to participate could fly their spouses, parents and children out to the ship to cruise with them from Hawaii to San Diego, the home port. This is called the Tiger Cruise.

## Attack Submarines (SSN)

Attack submarines are smaller, but faster and more operationally flexible than the ballistic missile submarines. The stealth and versatility of attack submarines provide an opportunity to be involved in exciting military operations.

If you see an aircraft carrier group sent by the President to a hot spot around the globe, chances are a submarine is already there.

## Sailor's Bible (Leather Bound) - This is the Bible I sent with my son to basic training. A Bible is one of the few things they are allowed to bring with them.

HCSB Sailor's Bible

Horace Greeley, founding editor of the New York Tribune, said "it is impossible to mentally or socially enslave a Bible-reading people."

## A Place For Navy Moms to Connect

### There's even a section for Nuke Moms.

Are you wondering what your son or daughter is in for now that they have joined the navy? Do you have questions about where they'll be going next, what you can send them, or what they can take with them? Maybe you are a long term Navy Mom and can answer these questions. There is a group for every type of Navy Mom that you can think of from submarine moms, frigate moms, aircraft carrier moms, and moms from every state. Check out Navy for Moms for information and support.
Visit Navy For Moms

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## Navy Nuke Feedback - I hope I've given you enough information on the Navy Nuclear program.

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• Susan Deppner 9 years ago from Arkansas USA

Now, this is my kind of lens! I have a son in Iraq now, one who got back a few months ago, and a Navy vet husband. LOVE the Navy Nuke design! Glad you pointed out the educational benefits of the military. Can't beat it - #2 son is starting college this fall and it's all paid for. Hooah and Semper Fi from my two Iraq vets!

• IBDesignsUSA 9 years ago

Wow! You have quite a collection. I have bookmarked it and will return often. A full 5 stars for a great site.

Kathy

• ArmyWifeandMom 9 years ago

Thanks for visiting my Lens, ServiceMom and for your wonderful comments. Yes I will be catching up on my writing soon. Your designs are very nice. Love the lens.

• triathlontraini1 9 years ago

I'm a navy veteran and I was on a nuclear powered cruiser. Great job on the lens! :)

• patinkc 9 years ago from Midwest

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World War 2 US Navy and USS PCE Lenses. A few years separate these experiences.

• anonymous 9 years ago

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• anonymous 9 years ago

word of advice to your son - the nuke life is a challenging one, he has not seen anything yet. support him as much as you can, because there are going to be some bumps in the road. despite the almost 2 years of training that he will have gone through by the time he hits his first ship, he is going to start from the bottom once again. and don't think he's going to have time to work on his degree because there are going to be a ton of qualifications he will need to complete. that and the watchstanding rotation will be intense.

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Dianne Loomos 9 years ago

tonyb, are you a nuke or ex-nuke? He knows it's tough but I think he is pretty well prepared. Thanks for the heads up.

• PartsAndMotorcy 9 years ago

Thank you for your entire family's service to our country. You've written a great lens. Keep up the great work and please tell your son and his wife, your husband, your Father, and your Uncles that their service is greatly appreciated.

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Dianne Loomos 9 years ago

Wow! My first Squid Angel Blessing! Thanks bdkz.

• anonymous 8 years ago

I like the lens. You seem to have a corner on the market, yours is the only lens that comes up for Nuclear Navy related searches. I'm impressed with the amount of info here also.

• anonymous 8 years ago

i think it's great that your son has you to support him 100%, which i stated he is going to need once he heads out to his first ship. i am a navy chief nuke electrician stationed on the west coast. it really is all about attitude - your son will be surrounded by many distractions, namely the ones who do not like their jobs. the initial hump is always the hardest one - perhaps the first year or two onboard. a lot of the young nukes really do not understand what they are getting themselves into, i don't think anyone does until they finally dive into the nuclear at sea routine - it is a fast paced, rough, and sometimes political world. you either have what it takes or you don't. biggest reason why they pay nukes the biggest bonuses in the navy - it's because a majority of them leave after their initial contract. as with anything else, first impressions last. just make sure your son maintains the positive attitude despite the first rough year learning his job.

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Dianne Loomos 8 years ago

Hi Tony, my son finds out real soon which ship he'll be assigned to. He has requested the west coast, hopefully Japan or WA state. Maybe you will cross paths with him. He's an MM3. He is ready to be done with school. Yes, we support him 100% as much as we can across the miles. Appreciate your comments! Always good to hear from someone who has been there and done that.

• anonymous 8 years ago

This is AWESOME! You've done a wonderful job, and 'done your family proud'!

• Tony Payne 8 years ago from Southampton, UK

Very nice lens, 5***** My best friend's youngets son recently returned from Iraq (Marines) 2nd tour and his eldest son is out there now in the Army. It's a tough career that all the troops have, we are indebted to them.

• Tagsforkids 8 years ago

Great Lens, 5*. Keep up the good work supporting our troops! You have much to be proud of!

• ThomasC 8 years ago

Blessed by an Angel today!

ThomasC

• miragana 8 years ago

Nice one there. It is very informative. It deserves a 5* rating.

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Dianne Loomos 8 years ago

Guitarnut--God Bless your son-in-law for his service in Iraq. He is appreciated! My husband talks about working with the Seabees in Vietnam. (blog link above, Stories of Vietnam)

• anonymous 8 years ago

Thanks for the info,very informative! I sent my Son the reply from tonyb. My Son just successfully completed his Prototype Exam and is ecstatic. He'll be staying in NY for ETLS Program. He has a very positive attitude about his schooling and the opportunities that the Navy has offered him. GO NAVY!!!

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Dianne Loomos 8 years ago

Drakes Mom--I wonder if he's in the same class as my son. He is winding up Prototype in NY also. Nick's roommate is doing the ETLS school. I wonder if our sons are roommates?!

• anonymous 8 years ago

Does your son live on Nelson Ave?

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Dianne Loomos 8 years ago

No, he lives on Sodemann Rd. They still might know each other though.

• anonymous 8 years ago

Yeah, they are probably celebrating together right now :) I posted your blog on my Myspace so that my family members will understand what I have been telling them the past 18 mos. You explained it much more clearer than I possibly could. Once again, thank you for all the info :)

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Dianne Loomos 8 years ago

Thanks for the post on MySpace! I emailed Nick and asked him if he knew a Drake. I assume that's your son's name? He doesn't get very good internet where he is so I may not hear very quick.

• anonymous 8 years ago

Cool, keep me posted. The chances of Drake knowing more than one Nick are pretty good, but the chances of Nick knowing more than one Drake are pretty slim, so I will wait for your info.

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Dianne Loomos 8 years ago

I will let you know when I hear from him. I bet Drake will know Nick's roommate, Welsh. They will be in that same school together. Nick's going to be on the Nimitz in San Diego.

• ebay-grandma 8 years ago

Nice lens - Our troops need all the support they can get.

• anonymous 8 years ago

I'll check about Welsh. Drake is going to put in for Hawaii or San Diego, so maybe they will meet up after all. Have a great day :)

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Dianne Loomos 8 years ago

Hi again! Will Drake be on a sub or a carrier? I don't know of a carrier in Hawaii. I have a message in to Nick but haven't heard back yet. I'll post here when I hear something.

• teamlane 8 years ago

Excellent lens. I appreciate the show of support for the troops.

Blessed by a Squid Angel today! :)

Colleen ~ www.squidoo.com/squid-angel

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Dianne Loomos 8 years ago

Thank you so much for the angel blessing. It is appreciated!

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Dianne Loomos 8 years ago

DrakesMom--Nick says he thinks he knows Drake. Drake was the class leader of section 8 in Power School. Right? He says they don't work in the same plant but he does see him around sometimes. Cool, huh?

• Patricia 8 years ago

What a cool lens! My dad served in the Vietnam war. He died at 59 of a heart attack, not in the war- army. 5* on the lens.

• Susan Deppner 8 years ago from Arkansas USA

I still love this lens! Happy military moms are the best recruiters, not to mention cheerleaders for our deserving troops!

• anonymous 8 years ago

Yes, Drake was the leader of his Power school class, that is cool that they know of each other, and in this vast world of the internet, we stumbled upon each other. Drake wants to start out on a sub and eventually go to a ship. he can't wait till this final section of school is over so that he can get out in the fleet. I wish Nick the best of luck and hope he has a fantastic experience while in the Navy. Do you have a Navy Mom acct. I'd like to keep in touch while our son are out at sea.

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Dianne Loomos 8 years ago

I do have an account at Navy Moms. I think I have the same name over there, stargazer00. I haven't been over there in a while but I will look for you. Small world, eh?

• triathlontraini1 8 years ago

Great job! Don't forget my USS Truxtun lens. It's the ship that I was on. :)

• ChristopherScot1 8 years ago

Great lens!

• tandemonimom lm 8 years ago

YEAHHHH Stargazer, Giant Squid!!!! And I can say "I knew her when ..."

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Dianne Loomos 8 years ago

Thank you friend! :-)

• anonymous 8 years ago

Naval Nuclear Power School, Orlando, Florida Class 7908. USS Carl Vinson (CVN 70), USS Nimitz (CVN 68) Joined January 1979, retired January 1999. Proud Navy Nuke MM1!!

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Dianne Loomos 8 years ago

Thank you for your service to our country. Small world, eh? My son is just starting his navy career aboard the USS Nimitz and is an MM3.

• anonymous 8 years ago

Love your You Tube video of Power School training. It was fun seeing the different places that we weren't allowed to go when visiting the base.

• anonymous 8 years ago

your son cannot start out on a sub and tjhen go to a surface carrier, fyi.

• anonymous 8 years ago

Wonderful site! Enjoyed all the info

• anonymous 8 years ago

Wow, love your lens! - Kathy

• David Gardner 8 years ago from San Francisco Bay Area, California

Wow! Nice lens. My dad was in the Navy... (although in WWII, there weren't any Nukes out there) (He was on an LST in the Pacific). He loved the Pacific so much that after I was born and lived in the U.S. mainland for 13 years, he brought our family to the island of Guam -- I lived there for 12 years. We frequently saw aircraft carriers and submarines pulling in to Apra Harbor. I've got a few pics of the Nuke subs on my Squidoo site on the submarines. Thanks for a great lens! Definitely 5-stars!

• XXandXY 8 years ago

A most impressive and informative lens.I remember seeing the USS Nimitz as a young boy anchored off Alexandria.I was on a school cruise aboard the SS Uganda (later to be referred to as "Mother Hen" during the the Falklands War),to this day I can still see the Nimitz towering above the SS Uganda as we entered Alexandria and Egypt,we were under 20,000 tonnes and I thought that was big!

• Snozzle 8 years ago

I'm in the UK and, yes, I support our troops and so should everyone. My problem is with the government and what they ask our troops to do, and where they are sent and for what purpose.

Excellent lens.

Mike.

• anonymous 8 years ago

Well, as a Navy mom I am not thrilled, but worried. My son is an EM5, been on the sub for close to 2 yrs. Was always excited, proud. He called 2 days ago, exhausted &amp; I have never heard him so low. Said one "project" after another, even in drydock, 4 hrs sleep days on end. Coming off of projects, then its "watch". Spoke of constant reprimands due to others being late, hung over, etc. Stated no recognition. Asked if he had spoken to his CO. His reply was "no one gives a _". He is in HI, but he hasn't seen daylight in forever. States he would have gone in any other direction in the Navy if he knew then what he knows now. This is a quote..."the only way off this boat is to threaten suicide, it's been done and it is demeaning", "I have no joy Mom in anything I do anymore, I have no friends outside of my group." Figures w/hrs working making less than min wage. Can't afford out of barracks, hasn't seen increase since Nov. He talked for over an hr. There is a MAJOR problem.

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Dianne Loomos 8 years ago

[in reply to dynah] dynah, I am so sorry to hear that your son is so unhappy and I can see why you are concerned. Are you a member of Navy for Moms? If not I recommend joining. There will be groups there for submarine moms and probably even one for the specific sub that your son is on. They may have some advice for you as to how to help your son.

As an EM5 isn't he eligible for the allowance to live off base?

Scroll up to " A Place for Navy Moms to Connect" and click on the link there to get to Navy for Moms. They are great about referring you to resources that can help.

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Dianne Loomos 8 years ago

[in reply to dynah] It also occurs to me that he might be suffering from depression which can be brought on by lack of sleep. Maybe he should see a doctor.

• Bambi Watson 8 years ago

very cool lens, you get my vote for LotD, 5*

• anonymous 8 years ago

Fantastico lens! I support our Troops and Veterans. This is really cool! :)) - Susie

• Natalie W Schorr 8 years ago

Terrific lens; I really like the way you worked the Cafepress shirts into the site. Excellent information - 5*.

• anonymous 8 years ago

I am a nuke electrician mate and i stumbled on this site and read over what the author has written. It is a very well written, good scope of what this program is. However, i feel that many of the negatives of this program were left out. Why not mention the 18 hour workdays, the rotating shift work at prototype, or the insane amount of discipline and sacrifice that this program demands. This program truly is both the best and the worst thing that has ever happened to me. I have gained so much in being here, unspeakable ammounts of knowledge and a ton of discipline and a feeling of true self worth, But the sacrifices I have had to make to complete this program were at times nearly unbearable. Very limited amount of free time, little time at home, I sacrificed time with both my family back home, and my wife here. My marriage was ruined and at times i felt lost. The only way to EXPERIENCE this program is to go through it. Very hard work, and theres much more in it than just the money...

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Dianne Loomos 8 years ago

[in reply to EM3] Hello EM3. Thanks for taking the time to read and comment. I understand what you are saying. I think Power School was one of the hardest things my son has ever done. He did have 12 hour days there, but didn't mention 18 hour days. I have another lens on prototype school and I think I mentioned the rotating shifts there. If not I'll correct that. Are you on a ship yet? My son is an MM3 on the Nimitz and the hours and workload are much less now and he likes it.

We taught him to have a positive attitude and I think that helps him a lot. Also he is not yet married. I think Navy life, whether you are a nuke or not, is hard on marriages. I'm sorry about yours. Good luck in your future endeavors!

• dotcomboy 8 years ago

Thanks for supporting the troops in whatever ways you can!

I don't pretend to know enough to formulate an educated opinion about whether we should be over there or not, but I do hope events transpire in such a way that as many of them as possible can get back to their homes and families alive and in one piece.

I hope that's good enough for you to believe I support them.

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Rodney Lewis

http://www.squidoo.com/dotcomboy

• anonymous 8 years ago

[in reply to EM3] EM3, its good that you stumbled upon this lens and comments on the negatives. Sorry to hear of what the program has done for you in so many ways.

I have a friend who was in the Marines and he was assigned to the USS Enterprise to guard the nuclear bombs on board at the end of the Vietnam war. Highly trained and disciplined to carry out orders. He was tested by a ships officer on day to see if he would allow the officer to pass without proper papers etc. He did not let the office pass. The next day the officer was wearing an arm in a sling, after being rammed with the assigned weapon my friend had, and was knocked down, and would have been shot and killed had there been anymore testing done.

This is a very good topic, and one that I will follow. I will feature this lens my dear!

• Janusz LM 8 years ago

OMG!! Fantastic... One of the best lenses I have ever seen!! Blessed by a Squid Angel :)

• jdluntjr 8 years ago

wonderful page. I'm fascinated by the navy. It was interesting to get a look inside the nuclear training program. Just a point about your first photo. You indicate it is the Nimitz class carrier Enterprise. Actually the Enterprise is a class of ship all of her own and was the first Nuclear carrier, predating the Nimitz class ships by several years. I really endjoyed this. Thanks

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Dianne Loomos 8 years ago

[in reply to jdluntjr] My mistake! You are correct. The Enterprise is the only one in its class and the oldest carrier in the fleet. It is the only one with eight reactors. I will change that.

• anonymous 8 years ago

Excellent work here! I Squidooed over from a link at Tipi's (sisters). Boy would you get stars etc. if I were a member, all I can do is say what a "fantstico" lens along with Susie!

• anonymous 8 years ago

Hi, stargazer! I just wanted to stop by again because I love this lens.

I hope you had a nice Mother's Day yesterday. I celebrated with my

son, who was celebrating his birthday too. That was pretty neat!

My best wishes to you and your family....always!

• x3xsolxdierx3x lm 8 years ago

This is an AWESOME lens! :) 5 stars (found it on SquidU!)

• HawaiianTraveler 8 years ago

I'm so glad that I saw this lens at SquidU this morning - it's fantastic!

• anonymous 8 years ago

I was just looking at Support Our Troops and decided to follow your link over to visit you. I agree with all of the wonderful compliments you have gotten on this lens, and you know that.

I am taken back when I see lenses of movie stars taking top ratings on Squidoo and other sites. The jesters are paid and praised, when the real heroes are gone unnoticed, paid real well, and not praised enough. - I do love this lens!

• anonymous 8 years ago

I am 24 years old and after fumbling through college and wasting tons of money on classes I wasn't interested in I finally went to my local navy recruiter office and took the ASVAB. It was by the grace of God that I some how scored well enough to earn a place in the Navy Nuclear program. I truly believe this opportunity is a rescue line from God himself! I truly believe this experience will foster the focus I need to finally tackle an advanced education. I was certainly on the cusp of failure. This opportunity means the world and more to me. I will restore my pride and confidence in myself and ultimately make my family proud of me. Every time I think about the Navy Nuclear Program I laugh to myself and thank God. I am probably going to become a better Christian because of this. I ship out for basic training October 1, 2009. I pray I am am strong enough to undertake this great opportunity!

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Dianne Loomos 8 years ago

[in reply to Jeremy Sampson] Congratulations on entering the Navy Nuclear Program, Jeremy! You sound a lot like my son. Just remember to work hard and keep a good attitude! Good luck!

• Susan Deppner 8 years ago from Arkansas USA

I think purple and Navy go very well together. Congratulations on the new star!

• tandemonimom lm 8 years ago

Woot! Kudos on a well-deserved purple star!!!

• anonymous 7 years ago

I am so pleased for you that this most excellent labor of love received a purple star!

• anonymous 7 years ago

Hey Jeremy, I too am a 24 year old and also got into the nuke program as well. It was much of a surprise that I got into the program. I went to a recruiting station one day, and took my asvab the next. I am leaving to bootcamp the following week on October 8th. I will probably see you in bootcamp or in Charleston.

• anonymous 7 years ago

Today i swore in to be a navy nuke. 6 year enlistment with a 25k bonus after prototype school if i make it that far and I'm sure I will with hard work and dedication to my studies. My mother is no longer around, she passed 3 years ago but I'm sure she's somewhere looking down on me very proud at my decision. I am very proud of myself just for taking the step to commit myself to such a hard program. I will be going to bootcamp in April next year. anybody going around the same timeframe or does anybody know someone who is? I found this site useful in my research of the program.

• anonymous 7 years ago

I am going march 24th, 2010

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Dianne Loomos 7 years ago

Good luck and best wishes to you guys going into the nuke program. Work hard and keep a positive attitude!

• Michey LM 7 years ago

Hi this is a great lens of a proud mother, Dianne we are proud of you as well, we need more mothers as you. Blessed!

Regards and all the best

Michey

• Susan Deppner 7 years ago from Arkansas USA

Congratulations for your Giant Squid Awards nomination for this fabulous lens, Dianne! Your heart and soul and Navy pride shines through!

• happynutritionist 7 years ago

My grandfather would have loved this lens, he joined the navy at 16, loved to share stories of being at sea in a submarine; then moved on to the Air Force, he retired an AF Captain. Fabulous lens...Congrats on the 2009 Giant Squid Award nomination and Happy holidays ~claudia

• JagielloJC 7 years ago

@anonymous: I am also going to RTC in April as a nuke.

• DeborahLynne 7 years ago

Wonderful lens. My husband spent four years in the Navy on a destroyer, the USS Borrie. DD-704. I am going to make sure my husband takes a look. Debbie

• anonymous 7 years ago

I am working on a presentation about the NUKE program and this was very helpful. I will be entering NUKE school later this year and can't wait to go!!!

• anonymous 7 years ago

I have questions about shore duty for Nukes. My ex husband is a Nuke, and we have two kids together. Right now he is on shore duty about 5 hours away. This is the closest sub base to us. For shore duty he's going to ask to move close to us. What are the chances of this happening? We are on the West Coast, so none of the Nuke schools are near. He has mentioned recruiter duty before, but I'm not sure how many people actually get that (especially when they lack people skills!). Does anyone know where I could find this info?

• anonymous 7 years ago

Thanks for sharing. My son is getting ready to go into the Nuke program, so this helped...even though I served 10 yrs with the Navy and knew about the Nuke program, I still had questions.

• anonymous 7 years ago

My Son is going in the Nuke program, and although I am in the Navy myself we were wondering what the difference between and ET,EM or MM rates and what rate has the best advancement opportunities and also provides the best job in the civilian sector.

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Dianne Loomos 7 years ago

@anonymous: I'm stargazer00's son and am a Navy Nuke. From what I've seen ETs have the best advancement rate. They make E-5 almost automatically and also get the best opportunities outside though it's a close race there. ETs operate and repair the equipment used to control the reactor, the EMs run the electrical equipment used for the reactor and machinery rooms as well as running the entire ship's electrical distribution system, MMs are responsible for the actual machines and equipment that supports the reactor and it's auxiliaries. Although your son may not actually get to pick which he gets, they base it on your score on the ASVAB and depending on how your son scores on the mechanical and electrical portions they may assign him a rate, however in my experience they make good picks, I got my last choice, an MM, but am happier here that I wold have been as an ET or an EM.

• anonymous 7 years ago

Nuke mom's and Nukes,

My plan is to ship out ASAP joining and enlisting as a Nuke. I have heard some horror stories as well as praises. It seems that I can only find the praises to read up about and was curious as the the accuracy of the horror stories. I was told that while in port Nukes do not get to leave the ship. That is a concern of mine. Is it true? Do Nukes get to see the places the ships are visiting or only spend time working on the Nuclear systems on ship?

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Dianne Loomos 7 years ago

Hello Thinking of Nuke,

I don't know what horror stores you have heard. I can tell you that Power School is tough. You have to buckle down and study. As for the rest of it my son tells me that much of it is attitude. If you fall in with the ones who are always griping it will be harder than if you try to keep a positive attitude. It's a job and there is no perfect job so make the best of it. The pay is great, you will have educational opportunities, and you WILL get to see the world. My son just returned from his first deployment on the Nimitz. He went ashore in all the ports including Japan, Singapore, Hong Kong, Maylasia, Bahrain, Dubai and Thailand. Good Luck!

• Spook LM 7 years ago

I love stories about the Navy.

• anonymous 7 years ago

Hello Stargazer!:)

Thank you for your response. The challenge of the school and job are things I am truly looking forward to. And i completely understand the nonexistence of the "perfect" job. My main concern was seeing the world and that is the man reason in becoming the navy woman I plan to be. I thank you again and I thank your son of all he does.

• anonymous 7 years ago

Thank you for the work you've put into this site. I guess things have changed since I was at Ballston Spa in 1972... and the only prototypes there at that time were D1G and S3G... 'MARF', the 'rodless wonder' was just under construction. The other thing that was different was that they were building a new class of nuke cruisers... I was assigned to the pre-commissioning unit of the South Carolina (DLGN-37)... two years later I was on the pre-com crew of the Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN-69) and was discharged in 1979.

Just as a minor point of correction, though... not so much a criticism but a point of accuracy, the carrier on the lead picture of the web site cannot be the Enterprise. The traditional four firerooms (yielding 8 reactors) and four enginerooms wasn't the only difference between the 'E' and the Nimitz class carriers... the top of the island structure on the E was a square block and had a circular top... all others have the traditional carrier island shape since back to the Ticonderoga.. Anyway... that was a small picky point. Other than that, I wish there had been a site like this when I went in...but come to think of it, there Al Gore hadn't invented the internet yet... LOL...

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Dianne Loomos 7 years ago

@anonymous: Thanks for the heads up Petty Officer Kremitz. I will find a new photo for that intro spot. I want to be accurate!

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Dianne Loomos 7 years ago

@anonymous: Hi Thinking of Nuke,

I'm sure you will get to see the world. The person on the ship (aircraft carrier) who is called the "Fun Boss" arranges all sorts of great tours for the sailors. It might be elephant rides, go-karts, hikes, beautiful beaches or lots of other things. You can go to malls, museums, aquariums and try the cuisine of different countries. Best of luck in your navy career!

• anonymous 7 years ago

@anonymous: Just so you get a realistic view of what to expect, if you are on a east coast ship your port calls will generally be horrible, and sparse, probably 4-5 months of a 6 month deployment will be spent sitting in the Persian Gulf. If you get lucky and on a west coast ship you'll probably hit up a couple of the asian ports. In addition to that do not expect it to be a vacation. You will most likely only be in a port for 3 days, you might get 4 days but those are rare, and 5 day long visits are even more rare. You will also be on either 3 section duty or Port/Starboard duty which means 1 out of every 3 days or 1 out of every 2 days you will be on the ship working/standing watch. So you will on an average port call only be allowed to leave the ship 2 days. Also with the way things are trending you won't be able to get permission to spend the night out in town unless you're an E6 which you wont be until at least you've been on the ship for 2 years (assuming you reenlist right after arriving) I know these things because I was stationed on USS Enterprise for 4.5 years as a MM.

• triathlontraini1 6 years ago

I was on the USS Truxtun which as a nuclear powered cruiser. It is now razor blades now. :(

• anonymous 6 years ago

Hi all! My boyfriend is going Nuke, (and possibly going officer, he is finishing up his degree first) and will be leaving in about half a year. I was wondering about things like, how long CONSECUTIVELY will he be gone? Also, once he gets settled somewhere and likes it, I am planning to leave our town to go and join him wherever he is stationed. Could anyone with experience in this tell me what to expect? I'm just wondering how long I should expect it to take until I can pack up my things and move. Will I be able to move onto a base? Or will we have to be married? Will it be okay for me to be on the base when he is off for long periods of time?

I'm sorry for all the questions, I am just incredibly nervous and I just wanted to set a time line (and life plan) for us.

Thank you!

• anonymous 6 years ago

@anonymous: I was married when I joined. Bad idea. While in training, you don't get to spend much time at home. All of your time is in training. I'm divorced, now. My wife couldn't handle me being away from 5am - midnight 5 days/week and 10hrs+ on the weekends.

Wait until he has finished training, then decide. This will take 2 years. You can't live in base housing unless you're married. He can't live off-base if he's single. You can't go on the base unless escorted as a visitor and you can only stay during limited times. If you're married, you have a military ID and can go on the base and use the Navy Exchange (tax-free shopping).

After training, there are 3 major paths: surface, fast-attack subs, and ballistic subs. Surface and Fast-attack sailors go on 6-month deployments and see a lot of the world. You'll be at home alone for long periods of time. They don't have predictable schedules. Ballistic Sub crews (Boomers) go out for 3 months, then stay on land for 3 months on a regular schedule.

My advice to you is to stay single until he settles into his first non-training command, then decide if the 3 years you've spent between now and then is worth the wait. Sailors don't need drama during their training, else they can't keep their mind on the work and will wash out. Last I heard, nearly half of those entering the program don't make it. Suicide rate is also highest here than anywhere else in the military during peacetime.

Support your sailor and be patient. Once his 6-year enlistment is up, he may re-enlist for a nice bonus (which is half up-front minus taxes, as much as \$60,000)), or he can find a civilian job making nearly \$100,000/yr depending on his skills and the company.

In summary, unless you're married, you won't be able to relocate with him. Stay home, get your own education, and be prepared for that very difficult challenge of long periods of separation. The rewards are worth it later.

• anonymous 6 years ago

@anonymous: it depends on the port, the ship, and the atmosphere. you don't want your nukes getting kidnapped. also, nukes are always standing watch, so you don't get to stay away for long. in a semi-hostile port, nukes may be restricted to the ship, but this isn't the norm. being a nuke, especially ET, is the most difficult.

• Squidoo_Queen 6 years ago

WOW! I got absorbed in this lens and read it from beginning to end - great lens. You are clearly a very proud mom and rightly so. Love the shirt "If you see me running its already too late" lol

• ohcaroline 6 years ago

This is a great lens on Navy Nukes. I can only imagine how proud you are of your son.

• anonymous 6 years ago

Yep, I was a push button nuke way back. I had the time of my life.

• anonymous 6 years ago

I have a couple of friends from high school who went through the Navy Nuke program and you're information is spot on and a great help to all who needs it. Great lens and thanks to your son for his service.

• AlaskaHydro LM 6 years ago

I used to think I was smart, until I read the "gibberish" at the beginning of this lens. Right over my head. Oh well. Great lens, very informative.

• cluelesscivilianchild 6 years ago

@anonymous: You said it take "2 years for him to finish training", but then 3 years until "he settles into his first non-training command". What is the difference?

And you said " While in training, you don't get to spend much time at home." You made this sound like a daily basis case with your wife. Do those in training have any type of leave during those two years? As in time during which those in training can go home? I'm sorry if this is a really silly question. I just honestly have no idea and am trying to understand if it will be 2-3 years w/o seeing a person in training at all, or if they have any type of leave. Thank you for any explaining you can give, you seem to have a great knowledge of all this and I just looking for any understanding myself.

• Tahoehawk 6 years ago

@cluelesscivilianchild: I'm an MM2 on board the USS Nimitz. Initially you spend 1.5-2 years at the "A" school, Power School and Prototype, Then when you arrive at your ship, on most but not all ships, you spend another 6-8 months in a training status "Reactor Training" on the Nimitz. You get leave between "A" school and power school and again between power school and prototype, again between prototype and your ship during which you can go home if you wish but it will be on your own dime, though the latter two are primarily for moving as necessary.

• Tahoehawk 6 years ago

@anonymous: In my experience you can get off at the ports though some of them are more restrictive than others, limited or no overnight or requiring 2 or more "liberty buddies," all liberty ports that we visited required at least one, and the like. Also as indicated by the above response you will have a duty day in the mix during for which you will have to be on board for muster on the morning of and will remain on board until your duty section is relieved by the oncoming section.

• Tahoehawk 6 years ago

@anonymous: Two and a half years later looking back this is very true and good to keep in mind for any other young nukes.

• cluelesscivilianchild 6 years ago

@Tahoehawk: Thank you very much. That answered a couple questions.

I have another couple though. It was explained to me that the schooling was 1.5 years-2 years and then that was followed by 4 years officially serving in the Navy, for a total of 6 years. Does the "Reactor Training" count in those 4 years of serving, or would that time start after?

Also I had been told it was approximately 6 (5-9) months at sea to 1.5 years on land, with a total of 2 terms at sea most likely. Is this somewhat accurate? And if so, would the "Reactor Training" count as one of these terms at sea?

I hope these make sense. I apologize if they seem trivial or bothersome, I'm just trying to understand. You have been a great help. Thank you very much. I hope you had a Blessed Thanksgiving.

• Tahoehawk 6 years ago

@cluelesscivilianchild: Reactor training is part of your first sea tour on your ship, you will report to your ship go to reactor training for the first few months then transfer to your division, on the same ship. Yes Reactor Training counts as part of the 4 years at sea for a total time of 6 years regardless of how long you spend in training your contract should be 6 years.

That's an average, your ship or sub may vary, there isn't a set formula I can give you that would give you an exact sea-to-shore ratio. Yes reactor training can take place at sea or at shore it covers basics that can be taught either way.

Hope that clears up some of the questions left by my last post.

• Kate Loving Shenk 6 years ago from Lancaster PA

Brilliant! Purple Star Worthy!

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Dianne Loomos 6 years ago

@kateloving: Thank you Kate! Enjoyed Giant Squid Open Mike today.

• Addy Bell 6 years ago

This is an amazing compilation of information about the Navy Nukes program. I'm glad your son is doing so well there. He's lucky to have such a proud mom!

• Michey LM 6 years ago

I learn a lot from your lens, it is informative, unique, quality content as well. Well deserved purple star

So I stretch my wings to Bless your lens.

You are a proud Marine's Mom, God bless you as well.

• termit_bronx 6 years ago

Great lens, very informative! We have a nuclear power plant in our town.

• AustinRick 6 years ago

USS Constellation (CV64), '72 - '74

OK, not a nuke. At that time there were only three nuclear surface ships, so nearly all nukes were bubble-heads.

However, my two sons are nukes. Well, nearly. The oldest one is currently finishing up prototype. The youngest is a senior in high school and enrolled in the DEP. He qualifies for nuke and is on track to get there.

They are third generation Navy. My dad was a chief specialist (what today would be called an Aviation Ordnanceman Chief) in the Pacific in WWII. My older brother was ship's company on the USS Intrepid. I was an Electronics Technician (radar). My oldest is as well, and it looks like the youngest will be one, too.

• Shamim Rajabali 6 years ago from Texas

Very informative lens. God bless all those serving our country.

• reasonablerobby 6 years ago

What an amazing and informative lens. Loved it.

• CruiseReady 6 years ago from East Central Florida

What a cool lens! I just love the "What's your superpower" mug. :)

• anonymous 6 years ago

~ Returning to leave Angel Blessings ~

• promotional-coupons-codes 6 years ago

Nice Lens. I loved the T shirts more

• Lee Hansen 6 years ago from Vermont

Interesting program and lens. Dad was a Navy man, and an engineer, but not a nuke. But in a later life career change he switched from space electronics and became a nuclear plant safety inspector. He said nuke safety was all about the people - staff trained well and procedures followed was the key. We need highly skilled techs if we're going to move forward with nuclear energy once again. Thanks to the Navy we'll get some top notch folks working in the civilian sector.

• anonymous 5 years ago

My son is a Navy Nuke on a submarine and he loves his job. I am so proud of him, and he's doing a great job. I thank the U.S. Navy for giving him a skill that will enable him to have a great life.

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Dianne Loomos 5 years ago

@Lee Hansen: The navy has a great record when it comes to its nuclear plants. They are very highly trained.

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Dianne Loomos 5 years ago

@anonymous: Kudos to your son. I'm proud of him too!

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Dianne Loomos 5 years ago

• anonymous 5 years ago

My husband was a nuke- the thing they don't tell you when you sign up is that working those nuclear reactors all the time isn't good for your testes. He can only produce girls and every other couple know with a nuke husband has only girls. My man was a nuke and now will never have a little man of his own. I'm proud of him but that's a sacrifice for both of us.

• Cynthia Davis 5 years ago from Pittsburgh

Definitely! Blessed by a Squid Angel**

• anonymous 5 years ago

My son is a Navy Nuke. A graduate of Nuclear Power School Orlando and prototype training in Ballston Spa, N.Y. He went on to serve 10 years in the reactor department on the USS Nimitz. I am so proud of him and all of those who make it through the tough Navy Nuclear program. The discipline he received while training and working in the military has served him well. He is a civilian now with a dream job in the private sector. He may technically be an ex-Nuke, but to me, just like a Marine, once you are a "Nuke", you are always a Nuke.

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Dianne Loomos 5 years ago

@anonymous: I love to hear stories like this. I'm proud of him too!

• anonymous 5 years ago

My son just passed the Nuke test and is trying to decide on the job he is currently signed up for or to go in the Nuke program. He is signed up for the AV job and has a couple of weeks to decide. Can someone who is out for the Navy and was a Nuke give him some advice?

• anonymous 5 years ago

@anonymous: If he can be a Nuke, he should be. If the choice is between Nuke and AV, then definitely Nuke. I was a Navy Nuke MM. I would recommend Navy Nuke ET. They tend to advance in rank faster, and they get to qualify Reactor Operator once aboard a ship. That comes in extremely handy if he wants to get out and work in the civilian sector. Also, if he's ever thought about officer, being a nuke will look much better on an officer application later, for NROTC, STA-21, etc.

• Buchamar 5 years ago

I love the Tee's!

I feature educational apps for kids - come visit!

• norma-holt 5 years ago

Lovely insightful lens on this subject. Blessed and featured on Blessed by Skiesgreen 2012. Hugs

• anonymous 5 years ago

@anonymous: I agree with Daniel: Navy Nuke ET. My oldest son left home in 1992 for Nuke school. His brother, my youngest son, left for Nuke school in 1994. Navy Nuke ET was what they both choose. They did very well. We all love the Navy around here. My younger son had an inquiry and got out; my oldest son is Engineering LCPO on the BIG E.

• anonymous 5 years ago

very good lens........well done

• Knuckl3s0 5 years ago

Proud to be a Navy Nuke

EM3 Dawson

• CCGAL 5 years ago

Proud to have been Civil Service at MINS 1984-1991. Only regret, besides the shut down, was not getting my clearance in time to board Nautilus before she left for Groton. I am sooooo gonna get back there to see her before I die. Love this lens.

• Cauger 5 years ago

Love the lens. I am a former Navy Nuke.

• MelonyVaughan 5 years ago

Great information and a very-well written lens!

• Michey LM 5 years ago

Just come back to spread Angel dust on this lens for a proud Navy Mom.

• aksaini007 5 years ago

Thanks so much for this post. There is very good and helpful information in this post. Keep up the good work.

Regards:

placement training

• anonymous 5 years ago

I am a nuke in DEP waiting to leave in December and was wondering if I can get general information about what I can expect from either you or your son. I've been trying to get a hold of my cousin but he hasn't really been a guy to talk to family. Any help would be appreciated

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Dianne Loomos 5 years ago

@anonymous: I'm not sure what kind of information you are looking for. If you will post some specific questions I'll try to get hold of my son to answer them for you. Thanks for reading!

• FreeJayPatches 5 years ago

@Dianne Loomos: Thank you for the quick reply! I was just wondering about things one can expect going in and I guess things to watch out for. If you don't mind me asking, has he gone to his first command yet?

• anonymous 5 years ago

@anonymous: Hello James,

I am so sorry not to have contacted you sooner. My son is out-to-sea, and I just forwarded him your questions a few minutes ago. He is prompt....and I am sure I will be forwarding to you some answers very soon. By the way, both of my sons totally enjoyed nuke school. Much studying, though!!!!! I hope you will come back to this site and let us know how Nuke School is going when the time comes!

• kathystauffervines 5 years ago

@anonymous: James, I am so sorry about the delay. Their ship had left for deployment on 11 March, and I did not forward this to my son until recently, when I began to get news and such from him. I know that the start of a deployment is so busy. Here is his response to your very important questions: BEST OF LUCK TO YOU! I KNOW YOU WILL DO Well!

"Below is a brief description of what to look forward to. He should ask his recruiter to give him the phone number/email of the Nuke Recruiter for his district who will be able to answer specific questions.

-Following recruit training, he will be sent to Charleston, SC for one of three ratings within nuclear power. These are Electronics Technician (ET), Electricianâs Mate (EM) or Machinistâs Mate (MM). He can submit his preference in choice order, the counselor at recruit training will make the final assignment to which rate based on his desires and needs of the program. These are called âAâ schools and vary in length.

-ETâs primarily work on reactor control systems, detectors, monitoring devices and perform the many maintenance requirements necessary to ensure safe operation of our nuclear reactors. They stand watch in the Enclosed Operating Space and control certain parameters on the reactor themselves. The training school for this rate is 6 months.

-EMâs primarily work on electrical distribution systems, backup power systems, electrical generators, switches, motor controllers, motors and other monitoring equipment. They rove the reactor control spaces and engine rooms, as well as control the distribution of electrical load throughout the ship. The training for this rate is about 4 months.

-MMâs primarily work on mechanical systems, pumps, valves, compressors, heat exchangers, main propulsion units and electrical generators. They stand watch in the engine rooms to maintain and control all of the above equipment to support the reactor plant and steam plant systems. The training for this rate is about 3 months.

-Following âAâ school, he will attend Nuclear Power School where several subjects are learned in rapid fashion. 2 years of college-level material are learned in 6 months. Such topics as thermodynamics, reactor physics, mechanical and electrical theory are learned.

-Following Nuclear Power School, he will attend a prototype training unit in either Charleston or New York. Here he will take what he learned in âAâ school and Nuclear Power School and apply it hands-on while operating under the instruction of a trained operator. This course lasts 6 months.

-Once complete with the training unit, he will receive orders to a submarine (if qualified and volunteered for it) or an aircraft carrier. He will be able to submit his preference of coast or shore base, the detailer will attempt to match the desires of the member and the needs of the Navy.

Ok, this should answer a good portion of training pipeline questions. There are many variables. My advice is to focus on the schooling and training at this time. All three milestones must be met in order to be fully qualified and assigned to a nuclear powered vessel."

MMCM(SW) Ron Thames

Engineering LCPO

USS ENTERPRISE (CVN-65)

J-6626/H-5003

757-445-6381 (Office)

757-513-6043 (Cell)

• KimGiancaterino 5 years ago

My nephew joined the Navy a year ago. It has been a positive experience in so many ways, even though we miss him terribly.

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Dianne Loomos 5 years ago

@KimGiancaterino: I'm glad to hear your nephew is having a positive experience. The Navy can be a great stepping stone for getting started in life. Yes, the downside is that we miss them!

• anonymous 5 years ago

Great view into the prestige and glamorous side of the navy nuke's life. I just want to add a little info to highlight reel. The life of a navy nuke isn't as wonderful as you made it sound. You forgot to mention working 120 hours a week. That we are held to the highest standard of any military member in world. Because of this 12% of nukes receive non judicial punishment in their first 2years of service. You also fail to mention that the school has a drop out rate of over 30%. Not trying to bash your very informative page but this school is not for the faint of heart. The rewards that nukes receive and to be where they are in no way reflect the sacrifices made to get there. There are some amazing joys to being a navy nuke as this page suggests. I however strongly caution anyone who thinks this will be easy. No one ever looks back on naval nuclear power school as says "wow, that was easy". If you're up for the challenge of your life and willing to give the very soul from your body to prove you can achieve the greatness that is a navy nuke? Then go for it. I did and I have no regrets but you couldn't pay me enough to go through that again.

• anonymous 5 years ago

My son is getting ready to start Power School. He is an MM. Is there any logic to the sections they are in during Power School?

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Dianne Loomos 5 years ago

@anonymous: Heather, I really don't know. Sorry! Hoping someone will chime in and let you know.

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Dianne Loomos 5 years ago

@anonymous: MM2, Yes, this is a rate with a very difficult school and they do work long hours. First on the ship, last off. The mechanics that wash out of Power School, if they become traditional mechanics, will do very well.

I don't know anything about the stats on non judicial punishment so I can't address that.

You're right that it's a challenging program and it's not for everyone, but there are some great rewards too.

• anonymous 5 years ago

@anonymous: Yup, there sure is!

I'm an ET1, doing this job for 12 years now. The sections that we take during Power School are there to better inform us how nuclear power actually works, so we develop an understanding of what forces we're actually dealing with when we stand watch and operate our plants.

Math is necessary to understand the concepts of rate calculations (it's actually calc that we get to), so the determination of startup rate (which is used heavily in reactor physics and kinetics equations and theory) isn't a complete mystery. Thermodynamics teaches us how the pressurized water reactor truly functions, how heat is managed and generated, how we can operate at the temperatures we operate at without boiling every ounce of water in the core, what 'saturated' vs. 'subcooled' and 'superheated' actually mean, etc. Physics is nuclear physics - we learn the means by which different particles react with matter, how different energy stages and bound energy levels affect the ionization probability of different atoms, etc.

All in all, it's a 'welcome to how nuclear power works' course that teaches the fundamentals of reactor theory and why we operate as we operate. :)

• anonymous 5 years ago

@anonymous: I'd just like to profess that this statement is quite false. In my plethora of years doing this job, I have had many, many shipmates who've had healthy baby boys. One of them, an MM1 with 15 years in, has six boys - his wife and him are dancing for joy because they've /finally/ had a baby girl!

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Dianne Loomos 5 years ago

@anonymous: Good to know. Thanks!

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Dianne Loomos 5 years ago

@anonymous: Thank you!

• Bob Zau 5 years ago

Another great lens stargazer00

• anonymous 5 years ago

@anonymous: If you have specific questions, please post and you will probably get some answers. In general, boot camp is boot camp and you will catch some extra crap for being a nuke, but mental games is what boot is about so don't sweat that part. When you start your A school, try to pay attention. This was the easiest school of the bunch but you need this information more than a year down the road and you will have plenty of time to forget it as you study thermodynamics and rx. physics. Hint on power school .. DO NOT get behind. You have 7 hours of lecture every day so if you get behind today you will be sinking tomorrow. We call the second 3 months of power school "the dark side" because it is dark when you show up and it is dark when you leave. There were a few weeks I spent over 100 hours in one of two classrooms. Once you make it out of power school, prototype is a little easier. You will go through a classroom phase when you get there learning the specifics of the reactor system you are working on then go to the plant phase where you stand watch. My hint here is to make sure you learn your classroom phase well because it will bite you in the butt when you get in the plant if you don't learn it and just cram enough for the system checkout. I worked hard and was the top MM in my class so I was able to stay at prototype and teach for a couple of years before going to the fleet .. best time I had while in Navy. Once you hit the ship, it is basically a repeat of prototype with a classroom phase followed by qualifying all the specific watch stations. As a MM that was about 5, depending on weather you go primary (Reactor Mechanical) or secondary (support systems, propulsion, and electrical generation) side. After you stand an ORSE (Operational Reactor Safegards Exam) you will qualify CRW (chief reactor watch) or its equivilant on the secondary side. After you have stood an ORSE as CRW and are deemed ready you will begin your quals for EWS (Engineering Watch Supervisor). To reach this point you will have to do probably 6 or 8 years and make rate (think rank) quickly. Hope this helps and is still accurate since I did all this in the late 80's and early 90's

• anonymous 5 years ago

@anonymous: two sons and a daughter here

• anonymous 5 years ago

@anonymous: As a machinest mate I made E6 in 5 years. If you work hard, keep out of trouble, and have the go get it attitude you can make rate very fast in all three; you have to want it worse than the rest of the guys. The important thing is to figure out what you will enjoy the best, because if you love your job then it will show in all areas of your work and therefore evals.

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Dianne Loomos 5 years ago

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Dianne Loomos 5 years ago

@kathystauffervines: Thank you!

• Peggy Hazelwood 5 years ago from Desert Southwest, U.S.A.

Wow, very comprehensive! Thanks to your son for being a Navy Nuke!

• anonymous 5 years ago

I was a nuke EM back in the mid 70's - I ended my Navy career (after 8 years of service) in late '81 and went to work for an electric utility as a Plant Equipment Operator at a Gas Turbine Combined Cycle power plant. I never felt the need to be an operator at a civilian nuke plant. Physics is physics - only thing different is the heat source...and NRC oversight. Congrats to those who stick it out. There is life after the USN and jobs are waiting unfilled in many generating plants...so many of us old dudes ready to retire soon.

• anonymous 5 years ago

@anonymous: I just returned from my sons graduaton in sc.. was beautiful so proud of him and you are right .. all about the attitude..

• shreeve21 5 years ago

i am trying very hard to qualify for the NUPOC program, I would LOVE to tech future nukes! Great lens!

• anonymous 5 years ago

You sure have, thank you! What a great lens :) USA

• anonymous 5 years ago

@anonymous: That's actually a common misconception. while there are statistics suggesting this phenomenon, just because you have an outcome does not mean you can determine a finite causality. other studies in this area have found correlations to stress levels and production of X chromosome sperm cells. while you didn't directly say radiation was the cause, it was implied. it just kills me to see nuclear radiation rumors and propaganda spread like wildfire.

• RuralFloridaLiving 5 years ago

Tons of information here - Thanks from a military family where everyone I can name was in the military; husband, kids, nieces, nephews, in-laws, aunts, uncles, etc, etc.

• anonymous 5 years ago

thank you for this!!!!

• steph-naylor 5 years ago

This Lens was just what I was looking for! Thanks for the useful info!

• norma-holt 4 years ago

Back with a fresh blessing and to feature on Blessed by Skiesgreen 2012-2 and also on Aircraft and Aviation in Motion. Hugs

• TheJVilleKid 4 years ago

I watched the video on Power School....WOW, what a change! My last tour in the Navy was in Charleston as an Instructor at the first Prototype there. The school part of prototype was on a barge next to the floating prototype. Glad they made the conditions there a lot better than they were!

• athrunzala 4 years ago

these are so coool stuffs

• anonymous 4 years ago

I actually have a plethora of family in the Navy. Of all the males in my family for the last 5 or more generations, seems my father and I are the only ones that did not serve. We both tried. He enlisted too young and my career got in the way in my case.

• Tony Bonura 4 years ago from Tickfaw, Louisiana

Very, very interesting. Thanks for all the great information. I'll still not get on anything but a bass boat or a bateaux in a river or calm lake, not matter how big. I get sea sick too easily. I had to learn that the hard way, of course. I do have great respect for those who are crazy enough to get on them and serve our country.

TonyB

• AstroGremlin 4 years ago

I think you missed a few key details about the Navy Nuclear program. I'm kidding! Talk about a comprehensive lens. Thank your son for his service. Re: a life after being a nuke, Jimmy Carter seemed to make it work.

• anonymous 4 years ago

@anonymous: I'm an ex-Nuke EM1(SS), with 11 years in. I can attest that I ONLY produce boys. I also absorbed less radiation in my time on board than you did on shore.

• anonymous 4 years ago

My son returns from deployment in the next few weeks. He is an ELT on a fast attack sub. Bless him and his crew for a job well done!

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Dianne Loomos 4 years ago

@anonymous: I'm with you! Glad to hear their deployment is over.

As a Navy Nuke out of the 1970s, I see that this program is a challenging today as it was in the 1970s. No point in my writing a Lens about the programs benefits, as this is very good. I do plan to write about my personal experiences. Perhaps you will follow me so you can see what that Lens is done. Nice job on this.

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Dianne Loomos 4 years ago

• norma-holt 4 years ago

A new blessing on this lovely lens and may you have a wonderful, successful and happy 2013. Hugs

• anonymous 4 years ago

My son is looking to join the Navy and wants to be part of the Navy Nuclear Program. His recruiter is telling him that he has scored well and qualifies for Nuclear - but he has to join the Navy and sign up for another position then wait to see if there is an opening in Nuclear. There is no promise of acceptance into the Nuclear program before commitment to the Navy. Is this standard? Have others heard the same and were qualified for Nuclear but told they could not sign in as Nuke immediately?

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Dianne Loomos 4 years ago

@anonymous: I'm surprised that he would have to wait for an opening. It's my understanding that they are shorthanded in the nuclear department. Also the recruiter gets a double bonus for signing a nuke. At least that used to be true. Maybe a recruiter or someone with more knowledge will check in here and answer your question.

• anonymous 4 years ago

@Dianne Loomos: We were told you have to sign with the Navy in another field - then get your Nuke contract later before going to boot camp.

• anonymous 4 years ago

@anonymous: I'd tell them that you aren't going to join without a school guaranteed. If he can get another good non-nuke school like Electronics Tech, go for it.

• anonymous 4 years ago

This is an awesome Website! My son, Zepplin is currently completing RTC, then going to Charleston, SC to begin his Nucluear Training. I AM SOOO PROUD!!

• anonymous 4 years ago

@anonymous: I would not trust that recruiter. If there is an opening for Navy Nuclear Program, he will get it if he qualified. However, sending him to a completely different A school in another field will make it VERY difficult to request another school. My son qualified for Navy Nuclear Program and went straight in. Our Recruiter said there is several opening in that program because it is so hard to qualify, as well as keeping Nukes on active duty because they can make a very good living as a civilian.

• anonymous 4 years ago

@anonymous: Our son left on Jan 15th for RTC and is also going to SC, so i'm sure they are in this together.

• anonymous 4 years ago

@anonymous: I have to agree. After his ASVAB test he was told they wanted him to be a Nuke. He waited 9 months for an opening at SC.

• anonymous 4 years ago

Mettler Toledo Product Inspection Division is looking to hire transitioning Navy Nuke EM's for Field Technician positions across the US. Interested applicants should send their resumes to pi.hr@mt.com you can also visit our website at www.mt.com for further information on open positions.

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Dianne Loomos 4 years ago

@anonymous: Thanks for posting this here! Transitioning Nuke EMs this is for you!

• anonymous 4 years ago

@anonymous: No. Your son shouldn't do this. It's not standard - it's the unfortunate sign of a poor recruiter. At this point, the recruiter needs to be treated as a tool and nothing else - not a source of information, not a friend, not even a good sailor. He's not trying to get your son what he wants, he's just trying to meet his quota - if he denies it, he's either lying or too dumb to know that what is called "Meeting Mission" is just a quota.

What your son needs to do is walk away. If there are no other recruiters in the area, tell the recruiter to call back later when, and only when, the job he wants is available.

I don't see how there aren't spots available unless the training command is just that backed up - though he should be able to sign for later on, though it may be as far as October or November. Likely, the recruiter needs someone for this month and is trying to get a sign on without concern towards your son.

I also encourage your son to think about the decision. Being a nuke is quite stressful. It's long hours - underway on a ship, 120 hour work weeks are not unheard of. The job satisfication, however is wonderful.

• anonymous 4 years ago

@anonymous: I did know a guy who considered Power School to be easy - but he also had both a college degree in Engineering and nearly an eidetic memory, he just didn't want to be an officer; perhaps wisely. Nuke Officers are some of the few people to make Nuke Enlisted impressed with workload. Sometimes.

To clarify on the process of it, as some people seemed a bit confused:

Two months of RTC

Six months of A-School

Small period of time on "T-Track" may be a week to several months.

Six months of Power School

Power School Hold - may not occur at all, may be two or four months.

Six Months of Prototype

This period of time often amounts to nearly two years.

At the first command, the "settling in," previous mentioned is the qualification process. There are series of watchstation qualifications that you have to complete, often taking about a year and a half pending on how well you take to them.

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Dianne Loomos 4 years ago

@anonymous: Thank you! I'm proud of him too!

• anonymous 4 years ago

@anonymous: Our son scored well also, and after MEPS he got paperwork for the Nuclear program showing he will be in the Nuclear program. I would get a second opinion.

Hope this helps.

• Michey LM 4 years ago

I come back to this lens to spread Angel dust....great info!

• Nancy Tate Hellams 4 years ago from Pendleton, SC

I didn't know much about the Navy Nuclear Program so appreciate all this great information. Thank you.

• sittonbull 4 years ago

Great information on the Navy and the Nuke program. Pretty amazing stuff!

• anonymous 4 years ago

@anonymous: Hi George,

Your son needs to tell the recruiter to contact him when he can sign up specifically for Power School. It sounds to me like perhaps the recruiter is just trying to get a slot filled. Also, your son should contact other recruiters, and see what they say about allowing him to enlist for Nuclear Power School. If I was your son, I would do just that. Advise him not to hastily make a decision based on what only 1 recruiter says. In 1992, my oldest son contacted a recruiter 50 miles away, and SPECIFICALLY said that he would enlist only for Nuclear Power School. He was tested and met all requirements, and he signed his contract which guaranteed his chosen training (Nuclear Power). Two years later, my younger son, upon HS graduation, did exactly as his brother did, and was also tested and then he signed his contract which guaranteed his chosen training (Nuclear Power). My oldest is still serving in the Navy; his brother was discharged following an injury which disqualified him as being fit for ship duty. Both sons are doing very well. Both are very, very impressed with the Navy and the Nuclear Power Program. Your son will find a Navy recruiter that will "assist" him the way he is supposed to.

• FastSecrets 4 years ago

Really good lens. keep it up!

• anonymous 4 years ago

@anonymous: Rx Divisions are all under manned, and will stay this way for a really really long time.

Nukes don't really have compelling reasons to stay in with the jobs available afterwards.

• Michey LM 4 years ago

come back to say Happy Valentine's Day to you and to people you love. All the Best!

• ManfromModesto LM 4 years ago

I knew it! They have ETs working for the Navy.

• anonymous 4 years ago

@anonymous: I signed up as an MT and then switched over to nuke just last April. The nuke field is very full. We have holds lasting more than a couple months now. You are never guaranteed into the nuke field if you sign up for another rating so be wary.

• anonymous 4 years ago

I'm curious, I have a relative that will soon graduate from this Nuclear program. His original plans were to go to medical school. How long will he have to serve in the nuclear field before he can be considered to go into the Navy medical school? Is it difficult/common for someone to graduate from this program and then go to medical school? He already obtained a B.S. in Biology while in the navy. He is currently an ensign. Is he "locked into" the nuclear field now while he's in the navy? Thanks

• Vikki 4 years ago from US

I really didn't know anything about this program, but now I do. Really interesting and such a great resource page.

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Dianne Loomos 4 years ago

@anonymous: I'm afraid I don't know the answer to your question. Maybe a nuke will see this and have the answer for you.

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Dianne Loomos 4 years ago

@choosehappy: Thank you!

• anonymous 4 years ago

@anonymous: The school is so backed up that it's a waste recruiting nukes. Theres 600 people in line to go to prototype with around 300 graduating power school every 2 months. Indoc is getting so overloaded and can't class up enough people for A school that nukes have to stay at Boot Camp longer on hold because of the back up.

• anonymous 4 years ago

This is a great site with lots of good information. However, I do not see any mention of the brave individuals who work with the real nukes - the Navy weaponeers! I spent several years working on nuke weapons in the Navy during the Cold War. My weapon system (Mk 48) has since been decommissioned but it is a rewarding and very interesting career choice. Why isn't there more information about this specialty?

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Dianne Loomos 4 years ago

@anonymous: M. Psmithe, Thanks for the time you spent serving our country. The reason there is no information here about this specialty is because I don't know anything about it. I had access to information about the Nuclear Power Program because my son was in it. I don't know anything about nuclear weapons. If you write a page about nuclear weapon systems during the Cold War I'd love to read it.

• anonymous 4 years ago

@anonymous: Generally they don't like to let a nuke not be a nuke.. He'd likely have to finish his commission and negotiate the med school as a requirement for him to stay in. The majority(large percentage) of nuke junior officers get out after their sea tour, so he may just have to wait until then... However, with the military background, he'd have a favorable advantage to get accepted to a good school once he finishes with the navy.

• anonymous 4 years ago

@anonymous: DONT DO IT! In my entire career i've never met a person that swapped over to being a nuke... it may happen, but INCREDIBLY rare. Unless you are talking about being an officer, in that case he would need to be exceptionally better than his peers to be selected for the STA 21. If his asvab score is above 80, he should be able to be a nuke. don't fall for recruiters tricks, if they have certain billets to fill, they will try to fill them however possible.

On a side note, Nukes generally hate their lives... So that's something to think about. I can't even tell you how many people i've known to commit suicide, attempt suicide, or get really depressed and get out of the navy because of it. Just something to think about. As a parent, if you're able to pay for his college, you'll be serving him better by doing just that.

I don't mean to be a downer, but there are realities about the Nuke program that are often never told... Theres a reason they offer ridiculous reenlistment bonuses, it's not just because we're smart.. think about it like this; if every nuke enjoyed his job and stayed in, they wouldn't need to offer a lot of money to "persuade" you, they could just save their money.. they offer the bonuses because Nukes get out of the navy as fast as they can after reaching a ship.

• anonymous 4 years ago

@anonymous: I barely knew what a wrench was when they put me into the MM program.... It really just boils down to manning, and your scores... If you're INSANELY smart, you're an ET and have zero social skills(generally).. When I went through in 2006, MM was where the lower scores went, EMs were in the middle.. However, I believe the fleet is a little bit overmanned at EM, and undermanned at MM and ET...

• anonymous 4 years ago

@anonymous: I do not envy you... I never want to see that school again! Here's some advice for you.

-In bootcamp, don't tell anyone you're a nuke (they'll likely make you work harder and stuff because they think its funny lol.. kind of messed up, but they pick on nukes)

-DONT be stupid about drinking.. go ahead and drink, but in the nuclear program they do noottt mess around, if you're underage and someone said they saw you drinking. you'll be kicked out.

-think like a zombie.. wake up. go to class. eat. study. sleep. repeat.

-DONT volunteer for submarine duty (they work way harder and longer)

-get stationed on the west coast if possible.. (its further from DC so less political BS to deal with)

-don't star reenlist... wait until your three year point, this will give you way more money, and allow you to go to shore duty without extending your contract for free.

-Go to college.. go to college.. go to college.. take CLEPS, and DSST exams... (actually suupperr easy and count as classes..

-don't think the Excelsior or Thomas Edison degrees are chump degrees.. I just finished mine, took the GMAT and applied to a top 20 MBA program and have an interview(meaning I'm a final candidate).. so, dream big.

Lastly, its not too late when you're in DEP.. if you change your mind, don't let the recruiter tell you you signed up so have to go.. until you're in bootcamp, its not too late :)

• anonymous 4 years ago

@anonymous: Non Nukes like their jobs more (generally speaking) they seem to enjoy themselves on a day to day. I've posted above that I can't even remember how many nukes ive seen commit suicide, attempt it, or become an alcoholic, or severely depressed.... The work is hard, long hours and if you're the type of person that tends to be stressed out about stuff, it will not be a very good fit b/c you'll have a heart attack lol. I genuinely am not trying to be a hater, I just feel like there is a semi rosey picture about nukes, when in reality we hate our lives... Until we get out... Which becomes the time we reap the benefits by getting a great job..

• anonymous 4 years ago

@anonymous: Are you saying that the people that are at basic, right now, will probably stay there until they can get enough to go to A school? My son is there, he left on the 1st of April. Would he graduate from boot camp and if so, what would he do if he has to stay there?

• anonymous 4 years ago

Hey what's that certificate they give us at the end of all of that training? Anyone know of any companies looking to hire any navy nukes transitioning out of the navy?

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Dianne Loomos 4 years ago

@anonymous: Hi Solomon, If you scroll up you'll find two companies that have contacted me with their information. They are both looking to hire navy nukes. Good luck!

• mariacarbonara 4 years ago

Wow. Really interesting info on nukes that I knew nothing about before

• Tahoehawk 4 years ago

@anonymous: You get a generic certificate of completion, not really worth anything. What you want to look at is your Smart transcript, it will keep track of all the schools you go to and is updated via Bupers online. It will take what you've done in the navy, such as Nuke school and convert it into estimated credits and course break downs as a college would look at them. It is however ultimately up to the school you wish to attend as to whether they accept your credits or not.

• anonymous 4 years ago

I understand that the Nuclear Program may be difficult, but is the A School similar to college, where what the professor says goes, or is it more like a strict High School setting, where the teacher is there to do a job, not share their opinion.

• anonymous 4 years ago

You stated you can get up to \$60,000 in bonuses, but you can get up to a \$90,000 bonus if you're an ELT.

• anonymous 4 years ago

@anonymous: A School is more of a rogue memorization. This was the hardest part for a lot of new nukes since you have to try to remember a lot of information word for word. This is the part where you learn how to learn effectively. After that the pipeline becomes more theory in Power school and hands on in prototype. So to answer your question there is a little of both, class if for putting out information mostly and after hours teachers are available for assistance.

• seodress 4 years ago

Great one.

• Doc_Holliday 3 years ago

Interesting lens. Loved it.

• LeeCLS 3 years ago

@anonymous: It's based on budget not on rate, in 2009 Staff pick-ups were getting exactly 100k. Also based on rank and time in. But the lowest zone CAP is 75k right now for anyone.

• LeeCLS 3 years ago

@anonymous: Right now the lowest SRB zone cap is 75k, and it doesn't matter whether your a smag or a real MM or any other nuke rate. In 2009 SPU's were getting 100k flat, the bonus amount all depends on timing, budget, your rank, and how long you want to re-enlist for. It's not a set amount.

• LeeCLS 3 years ago

Great page! Im hoping to see more people from all nuke rates on here to help fill in any gaps on information (though there is a substantial amount here) and also give a true opinion of there experience in the nuke program. Once again, amazing page very informative for those reaching out for insight in what we do.

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Dianne Loomos 3 years ago

@anonymous: My understanding is that this fluctuates.

• ourhomecc 3 years ago

What happens if you fail comps?

• wrfip 3 years ago

@anonymous: My son just signed on for nuc power Thursday after his medical. They say he has till Tuesday to back out of the contract. He just turned 18 2 weeks ago. He is attracted to the sign on bonus, guaranteed job, and travel. I am worried it's a wrong fit for him. He is 25% body fat and still needs to lose weight to get through boot camp. He is smart 156 IQ, scored a 94 on the military test he took as a sophomore. He graduated high school in 3 years and has his eagle scout and is attending community college this last year. He also is working part time at KFC. Thing is he still does stupid things like blow his scholarship over not doing busy work in the classes he is not interested in (philosophy and civil rights) and messed up 2 of 4 last semester. He is retaking them this summer. He is too much into gaming and loves computers. Part of me thinks the discipline and working out to be fit would be great, but I am afraid it will be a terrible mistake and break him. It's not that I think him weak, but he does have a sensitive internalizing streak that could boil like a pressure pot. I am an RN and not oblivious to assessing people and situations, etc... but I admit I don't know a thing about the military except my brother went in with a four year degree into the air force and did well and works as a civilian in GPS satellite stuff. This locking into a 6 year contract + 24 months reserves is what really bothers me. Also, he is flat footed and has limited ankle mobility and can't really run without terrible pain, but he still passed the overnight medical? We were going to have the surgery to lengthen his tendons, but he didn't want to do it saying it would be on his record and destroy his chances to get in the program. I know I am rambling, but I am freaked out and no one is talking to me about it except I have nurse friends who give me sympathetic looks. I am not afraid of radiation. I worked in nuc med 5 years as a nurse administering chemical heart stress tests. I am not against him following what he wants to do, but I think he wants it for the wrong reasons. Anyone who would respond to me I appreciate positive, negative, attacking, I don't care. I just need feedback. Thank you so much ahead of time. I don't want to be one of those parents looking back "would have, could have, should have......" I have already made mistakes with allowing gaming when he was young and I was a single parent then had to cut the internet off in high school because he was gaming at night and sleeping through class. Even capturing the neighbors signals to do it. I had to do the rounds and ask them, help them to password their systems. really rambling now. sorry. thanks, wendy

• Braxton 2 years ago

Thank you for this amazing article!!!! I leave for basic training to be a navy nuke in about two months! I've had the same girlfriend all through high school. She is a great girl and I hope we make it through me being away.

• Tgoss1 11 months ago

My son just auto qualified for nuke with his asvab score.

My main question is what the real story is about need for navy nukes. The recruiter keeps telling us the navy ALWAYS needs them. But then I read things here about how kids are having to wait to get in and there are hundreds graduating the program. What is the real story TODAY?

My son still has 10 months till he turns 18 and another year of high school, but seriously looking at enlisting next month.

I see nobody has commented in almost 2 years. Is anyone still paying attention to this page?