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Florida's Stand Your Ground Laws May Get Even Goofier. You Won't Believe the latest news.

Updated on September 29, 2015

OPEN CARRY CAN BE SCARRY

Who Youu Rootin' For
Who Youu Rootin' For

BAD LAWS, BULLETS, BOOZE and TESTOSTERONE make for a bad combination

Be truthful. How comfortable are you sitting next to someone with an automatic weapon in his holster? It’s there for everyone to see. What’s the message the gunslinger is sending? Some would say he's looking for trouble. The NRA would say he is there to protect you. hmm! Do you feel protected?

The latest bit of foolishness from the land of too much sun and way too many guns is a new law proposed by the overzealous gun crazy Republican Dennis Baxley. His latest Bill now proposes that the burden of proof should be shifted from defendants to prosecutors. The person who did the shooting or made a threat would be considered to have done so legally and properly. Futhermore, that person would be entitled to recovery of court cost and legal fees.

According to the American Bar Association:

“If our aim is to increase criminal justice system costs, increase medical costs, increase racial tension, maintain our high adolescent death rate and put police officers at greater risk, then this is good legislation. But if we are to use science and data and logic and analysis to drive sensible public policy, then there is no reliable and credible evidence to support laws that encourage stand your ground and shoot your neighbor.”

WOW - Florida looks like the perfect place to commit murder.


Something to think about:. You're sitting with a group of friends rooting for your home team. Four guys walk into the park and sit a row directly in back of you. They are armed with Glocks in holsters strapped around their hips. They have been drinking and it’s obvious they are rooting for the opposing team. The bantering between rows gets heavier. It started off friendly enough, but as the game progresses and the score gets closer, tension begins to build.


Your team takes the lead on a disputed call and your friends are acting like many young men do when the drinks and testosterone fully integrate their systems. The guys in the next row have been throwing down the beers and tequila shots as well. Your guys are exuberant. Your neighbors are pissed.


What are the chances of someone pulling a weapon ... then firing it? Even if the chances are slim, how would you like to find yourself in that situation? That’s the question we all have to consider if and when we find ourselves in that situation, especially in a state like Florida that not only has an open carry provision, but also allows you to shoot your neighbor if he threatens or intimidate you in almost any way, even jokingly..

You probably know a couple borderline wack jobs who could do that, especially after a couple, six or seven beers under their belt. They could be off the hook under the provisions of Florida's “Stand your ground” law - awhich has had several incidents in Florida where it has been put to the test.

Getting back to the men next to you with the guns, booze and testosterone scenario, wouldn’t this strike you as a “perfect storm” kind of situation? It sure as hell would bother me and I am not alone.

Those with the guns would probably say that the opposing side should have left the premises if they were uncomfortable. The victim side would respond that it was within their rights to stay.


Florida’s goofy laws would no doubt clear the shooters if there was even the smallest inkling of a threat, serious or not from the other side.

IMAGINE HOW A BLACK MAN FEELS WITH THESE LAWS ON THE BOOKS.

The end result: a shooting over no apparent reason except that that the shooters had a way out that seems to work in the glorious state of Florida. Heaven help us all.


That concludes this piece. Reasonable men have a conclusion about the issues. The NRA? Well, we know how they feel about their guns. Boys and their toys-- You know the drill.

STAND 'Em Up Then Shoot Them Down.

It's ironic that here in the land of Christian Conservatives, human life is so carelessly tossed aside in favor or overzealous gun laws. Shooting a person is easy now in Florida, if someone looks cross eyed at you. or otherwise offends your delicate personna. Stand them up then shoot 'em down. It's OK its legal. It's Florida

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      Greg Schweizer 

      4 years ago from Corona, California.

      In my opinion an assault weapon is any weapon designed for war or to kill people and NOT for hunting for food or four legged game. You don't have to follow any specific terminolligy. And Ben, you are very paranoid. Greg

    • Kramar profile imageAUTHOR

      Snarky Babbler 

      4 years ago from USA

      You really should move out of the combat zone you live in so you can protect your family from all those bad guys who are apparently coming after you. Sounds like a bad case of paranoia.. YOU ARE WAY TOO HUNG UP ON TERMINOLOGY. MANY OF THE. NON ASSAULT WEAPONs WITH A LARGE CAPACITY 20 OR 40 ROUND MAGAZINE CAN BE ALMOST AS EFFECTIVE A KILLING MACHINE AS A FULLY AUTOMATIC WEAPON IN THE RIGHT HANDS.

      iT DOESN'T TAKE A ROCKET SCIENTIST TO CONVERT ONE INTO FULLY AUTOMATI...and by the way sonny, it's Mr. Snowflake to you

      http://money.cnn.com/2013/09/12/news/companies/sli...

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      Ben Smith 

      4 years ago from Duluth, GA

      look I don't care what the gun interest groups are for, this is my opinion. and no, they are NOT classified as assault weapons, if you antigun lobbyists and the media would ever bother to learn the vocabulary of these words you are using. an assault weapon is defined as a FULLY AUTOMATIC (key word 'fully') weapon that can fire UNLIMITED BULLETS WHILE HOLDING THE TRIGGER. ASSAULT WEAPONS ARE ILLEGAL AND ARE ONLY USED MY OUR MILITARY. PLEASE GET IT RIGHT. ok now that's over with, and the more important question here is WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO TELL A FREE AMERICAN PEOPLE HOW MANY BULLETS THEY CAN PUT INTO THEIR GUN? WHEN ITS THEIR FAMILY ON THE LINE, THEY CAN DECIDE. NOT SOME PRECIOUS SNOWFLAKE WHO LIKELY HAS NEVER BEEN AROUND ANY TYPE OF WEAPON THAT CONSTANTLY TRIES TO TELL PEOPLE WHAT THEY SHOULD AND SHOULDNT BUY.

    • Kramar profile imageAUTHOR

      Snarky Babbler 

      4 years ago from USA

      Special interest groups are against more background checks. I am not for banning all guns but I see no reason why we must allow assault rifles and large cap magazines. They are classified as assault weapons. Who the hell are the buyers of these things planning to assault? College kids on campus?

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      Greg Schweizer 

      4 years ago from Corona, California.

      I am not for banning guns. That's where so many people get "confused", just because we are for better gun laws, background checks and not carrying guns in public, they jump to the conclusion that we want to BAN guns and take them away. We need better laws and responsibility from the people that want to own guns. There are a lot of things that can be done without banning firearm. There are certain ones that people just have no reason to have but that would have to be a consideration of the people, not the government. Greg

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      Ben Smith 

      4 years ago from Duluth, GA

      well then why don't we have more background checks?? there are far more possible solutions we haven't tried to this problem than just outright banning guns. a gun in the hands of a law abiding citizen has shown to save lives, and there are countless examples of this.

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      Greg Schweizer 

      4 years ago from Corona, California.

      Guns don't kill people, people kill people, WITH GUNS. Greg

    • Kramar profile imageAUTHOR

      Snarky Babbler 

      4 years ago from USA

      guns, openly carried make folks nervous, They have no idea if the person blatantly wearing sidearms is sane or nuttier than a fruit cake. A favorite line of the NRA is guns don't kill people , people kill people. Butthat's the kind of rhetoric the gun lobbies love. i certainly agree that the insane be seperated from weapons of any type, but there are so many out there that becomes a problem

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      Ben Smith 

      4 years ago from Duluth, GA

      you should probably use more facts instead of hypothetical scenarios, first of all, and second of all its the people who use weapons that should be punished not the tool itself, a Glock is not simply going to get up on some newly grown legs and start shooting people. so instead of fussing over these weapons, why don't we focus on the insane and mentally unfit people, or in your case, the drunks and rowdy sports fans. now if we want to follow your logic, why don't we ban sports? or how about we ban fans of two opposing sides from being near each other? or why not alcohol? Its always guns with this issue and we tend to miss the real problem. After all, a recent Mother Jones magazine study shows that nearly half of all recent mass shootings in America were conducted by the mentally insane. oh yeah, and by the way, weather you like it or not, there have been far more murders by blunt weapons (this is according to the FBI website, and its not biased in any way) than there were by actual firearms. and I am not even going to get into cars, but I am sure you get the point.

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