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Who Owns the United States of America?

Updated on November 2, 2014

Is America Up for Sale?

How many care enough to stand up without their hands up?
How many care enough to stand up without their hands up? | Source

Who Really Owns Our Country?

Who owns America?

How hard is that to answer? Is the question itself clear?

For most of you, it seems the question is about dollars and cents, i.e, who owns the most property? To whom is the government most in debt?

Both questions, I believe, miss the point.

It's not about property because property is the same everywhere. It's the land, whether frozen or bathed in sunshine.

Land can't define anything deep about a country.

Debt? Debts are due the government.

It would be a gigantic mistake to assume that the government is the country. It isn't.

As presently constituted, it's hard to make the case that our government even accurately represents the country, jury-rigged as it is to serve the privileged of any and all nationalities.

No, what constitutes the United States of America is what has always been unique about us - our ideas and our abundant resources, natural, human and creative.

That's where you find the real battleground over who owns us. Each element is fiercely fought over.

A War of Ideas and identity

Were Howard Zinn (See A People's History of the United States: 1492 to Present) and Gore Vidal (See The Last Empire: Essays 1992-2000) right, or were they just a pair of radicals spoiling the fun and prosperity?

Are we talking money, resources, control or ideas? Either way, the answers have been obscured by decades of fake history taught in classrooms and patriotism so hyper it's blinding.

When professional baseball teams take the field these days, in games played by rich men on teams owned by oligarchs, we no longer get just the national anthem we always had at the start, we also get a fresh infusion of God Bless America during what used to be the relaxing seventh inning stretch.

Maybe the creepiest thing is that, during the songs, the stadium cameras pan police officers, solders and upright citizens who've removed their caps in reverence, as if that's the stuff we're made of.

Such events woven into the most American sport at its finest are instructive.

Below, there's a countdown to the #1 owner of the United States, all things considered, and you'll be asked to share your own opinion.

Spoiler alert - it can get a little heated. Emotions rise when we talk about home sweet home.

A Cherished Idea Bumped Aside

Probably like you, I thought I had a good idea about who owned everything American. Then, someone whispered something strange that made we wonder.

At a nonpolitical community event, I ran into this writer friend who publishes regularly in respected places. I told him how disappointed I was over how little change took place after we kicked the bad president out and got a new one.

My friend whispered,

"Obama found out he couldn't make some changes because they weren't going to let him."

They?

Who are "they...?"

This didn't come from your garden variety paranoid or conspiracy theorist. My friend is actually a reasonably well-known writer, with connections, and a successful philanthropist.

Who are "they?" Who really owns and runs the United States...? I wondered, and the search for information began.

My research, peeking around corners and carefully reading the propaganda rich mass media, showed me who, by deduction, reduction and seduction, must own the country or at least the family jewels.

Finally, I had some answers.

Who owns the United States of America? The countdown begins below.


Note: Who Definitely Does NOT Own The United States

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American History: Alternate Views - The Stories That Will Never Be Official

A People's History of the United States
A People's History of the United States

Howard Zinn's lively alternative history is all about hard core truths, not the ones we prefer to believe. I love this book.

It's an illusion buster, and for someone who believes that accepting truth is critical to improving conditions, it's a way to see what really happened without patriotic filters.

Most histories are written by the winners, but that isn't the case here. This one is written by a believer in American values who wishes we were better at embracing them.

 

In Third Place, Billionaires With Faces

The Boys Who Gave You Our Smoothly Operating House Of Representatives

While some say that the Koch Brothers, industrialists who rank high on the list of American polluters (and that doesn't count what they dumped into Congress), give a bad name to ugly, others admire their stalwart, intense focus on the mission at hand, that is, handing the government of the United States over to the super rich.

In the latest congressional voting season, the dynamic duo delivered on a do-nothing congress, at least nothing that helps anyone but the 1%.

Now, in the approaching season of choices, they are determined to overpower facts and reason while creating fictions about all things Obama.

They have all the racists behind them with their "blame it on the black guy" strategy, and now, they are going for everyone without tint of any kind, which they believe is (1) the majority and (2) too ignorant to figure out they are lying.

Lies My Teacher Told Me: Everything Your American History Textbook Got Wrong
Lies My Teacher Told Me: Everything Your American History Textbook Got Wrong

How public education is designed to sell a product, not a history.

 

Second Place: Who Owns The United States of America?

The Donald Trump Syndicate

The next largest owner, I discovered, is The Donald Trump Syndicate.

Face it. Donald himself is an egotistical powerhouse, crudely charismatic and a somewhat preposterous individual. What better way to remain nameless than to subsume oneself in this syndicate, crouching behind the ever-present, always amusing Donald.

Think of this as something like what the Republican Party did in hiding its more bizarre and, frankly, frightening figures behind that adorable hood ornament, George W. Bush, in 2000.

Just as W fronted for the likes of Dick Armey, (How do you like that play on words?), Newt Gingrich and Strom Thurman (one of the last unabashed racists to hold center stage in American politics and to simultaneously hide a mixed race, out of wedlock child), the Donald fronts for a group of secretive billionaires, mostly Wall Street bankers, hedge fund managers and idle rich, all of whom agree that you and I should mind our own business.

Whether you agree or not, this is probably sound advice.

Things happen, n'est-ce pas ?

Note: Who Might Own A Big Chunk Of The U.S.A.

The 1% looks a lot like you know who.
The 1% looks a lot like you know who. | Source

#1: Who Owns The United States of America?

The Military-Industrial Complex

The largest chunk of ownership in the USA is, not surprisingly, the military-industrial complex, including the Armed Services, taking in all the branches, Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force, numerous unnamed and invisible spy networks, the CIA, Haliburton and Boeing.

Together, these groups own 81% of the United States of America.

It's a good investment for them, too.

They receive as annual royalties, roughly, 65% of the federal discretionary budget, plus Haliburton and Boeing investments, all of it tax free.

This wealth allows them to establish storefronts in over one-hundred countries, corrupt legitimate political process around the world, smirk at democratic reform, manage and, sometimes, censor the alleged free press here and elsewhere.

You may have noticed that, in all the endless debates prior to the last presidential election, nobody questioned the dominance of this coalition or its influence on private lives.

Guess why.

The military-industrial complex may now have reached Sacred Cow status, immune from criticism and impossible to break down into digestible components.

Who Owns The United States of America - Your Opinions

Maybe you did your own research or maybe you just disagree to be ornery. Speak out.

Who Owns The United States of America?

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Conclusion

Whether material, spiritual or other, the owners are not the people most of us meet on the street every day or those ordered to salute the flag, even as it's been subverted as a symbol of government, not the country.

The rest of us have increasingly little say as the 1% gobbles up what's left of our democracy.


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      Zack 21 months ago

      Rothschilds willing to bet you . There Net worth is hundreds of trillions. They support and fund wars and controls our government. Me and all my nerd buddy's have been researching for years finally we came to this. Also check out Rockefeller you will be amazed.

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      David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

      Thanks, Paula. Keep in mind, we still have the greater numbers. If the American public can ever be mobilized to get off the couch and vote in their own best interests, we would be fine. It's still not clear if they are willing to do that.

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      Paula 2 years ago from Beautiful Upstate New York

      David.....As simplistic an individual as I am, immediately I find the irony in America, "powerful and free Country of the people," being OWNED.....by anyone. In particular not owned by us. HA!

      But alas, what you suggest to us is the hard core reality.

      Next my curious little mind moves on to a question. So...what SHALL we do? Excuse me, that's "What CAN we do.?"

      It is the powerlessness and victimization of corruption which troubles me the most......daily.

      Would I choose to live elsewhere? Probably not. So finally I hear the VOICE ask me: "So then, little bug, in danger of being squished at any given moment, what precisely is your problem? Shut up, sit down and do not make waves. Just live, breathe, listen, do as we command and everything will be OK."

      All that remains as we shrink at the boom of that sounding voice, is our final plea. "OK, but can you please let us keep the change?"

      Fabulous article, David. Overwhelmingly frightening, but undoubtedly real.........UP+++tweeted. Peace, Paula

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      David Stone 2 years ago from New York City

      Right. In so many ways, it comes down to the personal point of view.

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      SoSoNo 2 years ago

      Ownership of anything is being able to control that thing. I.e., I own my house and so I get to say what happens with it (aside from HOA's, local and national government laws and regulations and my neighbors complaints) but to look at ownership as control, then the answer for who owns/controls America, becomes pretty simple. However, the Internet itself makes control more difficult but not impossible. So my question is, how do we individually combat against these controls, and then how do we multiply that affect with wide spread knowledge? Also, what happens on your day to day life that makes you feel controlled? For me, I wake up, drice to the gym, work, ride my bike, find entertainment for myself and family, and make plans for the future. The only controls I see in my life are those that are closest to me who make my life difficult in various ways...so I guess there's no real motivation to change what I'm happy with.

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      A Friend 2 years ago

      Not us. :-)

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @John Dyhouse: Like mother like son, John.

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      John Dyhouse 3 years ago from UK

      As a mere Brit, I can only stand back and wonder, from the comments you say that it is satire, but it is exactly the samae in the UK. If you take the question literally, then the vast majority of the land is owned by a very few major landowners.

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @HSP Connections: The toughest thing is deciding what "owns" means. It was a deliberately ambiguous question and answered intended to encourage thought and opinion. Thanks.

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      Peter Messerschmidt 3 years ago from Port Townsend, WA, USA

      Metaphorically and very loosely speaking, America is "owned" by those who are MOST fearful of the word "enough," and most addicted to the word "more." Technically speaking, it's a mindset, not "people," although the mindset is perpetuated by people... the people who may own their own 100-foot yacht, but then they "must" have a 150-foot yacht. And so on, ad infinitum.

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      Barbara Tremblay Cipak 3 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      worthy of another comment - when we think about how fragile life is, using money as a measurement of success is entirely ridiculous isn't it - hope this world becomes more spiritually advanced in the decades and centuries to come

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @esmonaco: A good question, but certainly not like the middle class we once had.

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      Eugene Samuel Monaco 3 years ago from Lakewood New York

      I believe everything is driven by money. So my vote would be for the Faceless Billionaires, all dirven by big business. Is there really a middle class America anymore? As the rest of pay to make the rich richer.

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @Ibidii: Thank you, Sherry, but I want to go on record that it wasn't me who got you started.

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      Ibidii 3 years ago

      Didn't the Bush family and Dick Chaney have family ties to Haliburton?? Yes, the powers that be and the shadow government... lol Don't get me started! :-\ Awesome lens!

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @ThreeQuarters2Day: The failures of the American educational system make it possible to get the general public to believe a lot of crazy things. As I follow the comments over time, I seem to be stirring the wrong people. There is hope democracy can be saved if people wake up and push back from the TV long enough to see it eroding.

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      Dawn Romine 3 years ago from Nebraska

      @David Stone1: I actually did not catch this article as satire until now. So many people actually believe the information you wrote to be true.

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      Barbara Tremblay Cipak 3 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      I'm a political junkie - been actively following politics since the 70's when I was a teenager (although you'll rarely find me writing about it, I can say that I have a solid understanding of who's who and what's what (or at least to a point right?) - I'm currently hooked on a TV show called 'Continuum' - it's a Canadian TV show about time travel and the year 2077, where the US is completely corporate (I know what you're going to say David...lol..it already is...after all, corporations are people now) anyhow, in the show the Congress is now 'The Corporate Congress' (their official name) - enjoyed the read here David!

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @norma-holt: Well, it's a satire, not supposed to make anyone mad, just puncture some egos. Do you really think it's that bad?

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      norma-holt 3 years ago

      Politics is corrupt everywhere and the ones who drive it are the money moguls who have no concern for anyone but themselves. I want to know what they do with all their money as they still only eat, live in one house at a time and sleep in a bed, just like the rest of us who are not homeless and struggling to find a warm spot on the street. Society is sick and money has made it so. Great lens and deeply troubling subject.

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      Kathryn Grace 3 years ago from San Francisco

      All joking aside, increasingly we see evidence that a very few (less than 100 apparently) vastly wealthy men own more wealth than 3.5 BILLION of the rest of us own collectively. In other words, a few dozen men own more than half the wealth of the world. I suspect they are the ones pulling President Obama's strings, just as it seems they pulled those of George Bush and every president before him since at least Jimmy Carter. Apparently, Carter wouldn't let himself get tied up, so they tossed him out after just one term.

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @SteveKaye: Real success on Squidoo means drawing people in from outside the circle. I wrote this, thinking it might the theme might be a hot button for a lot of people, and it has been. I also tried to make it funny to keep people from getting carried away, which hasn't been as successful.Thanks, Steve.

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      SteveKaye 3 years ago

      Here is a real comment by a real member of the Squidoo community with a real photo and a real name.I'm amazed that a lens like this attracts comments from so many who are outside the community.

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      justchillinwaheeb 3 years ago

      england and the pope.hahaha!

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @sarah-goodwich-1: Now, see if all of us idiots only knew, as you do, that it's simple, we'd be all independent right. I vote we give the mosquito republics immediate independence and save the rest of us a lot of grief. Simple, right?

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @sarah-goodwich-1: Except that "states" are theoretical notions and not real things. Therefore, ownership isn't possible.

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @sarah-goodwich-1: How did we and all the constitutional scholars, except you of course, miss that?

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @sarah-goodwich-1: How do you feel about humorlessness, Sarah? I feel that it blinds people to reality. What do you think?

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @sarah-goodwich-1: Keep him behind the curtain, if you don't mind.

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @sarah-goodwich-1: Hm. Maybe sitting in a corner and listening to New Age music would help.

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @sarah-goodwich-1: Sarah, do you have any wine in the house you haven't used? What about guided meditation tapes.

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      David Stone 3 years ago from New York City

      @sarah-goodwich-1: Gosh, it's fun when someone takes their own opinions so seriously that they miss the point that this is satire, not a debating club or a soap box.

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      sarah-goodwich-1 3 years ago

      @anonymous: No. They POSSESS it, and CLAIM ownership of it.The LEGAL owners, are the respective PEOPLE of each state. You and the people of your state, OWN your state; same with me and mine.We can overrule state and federal government alike by majority vote-- in fact that's how we got the Constitution, since the state governments didn't have the AUTHORITY to do it. WE did. Time to simply take it BACK.

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      sarah-goodwich-1 3 years ago

      @David Stone1: The fact is, that accuracy is irrelevant; either the People own themselves and their respective nation, or someone else does.... and that's been the case since at least 1861. Legally, they DO own themselves and their respective state, but truth is always the first casualty of war-- which is the sole reason why dictators are so apt to WAGE it.

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      sarah-goodwich-1 3 years ago

      @David Stone1: I like their waffles...

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      sarah-goodwich-1 3 years ago

      @Erin Mellor: Hate to break it to ya, but that is NOT America's infrastructure. As I've explained above, each state is a separate sovereign nation, and its People are its ruling sovereigns; the governments are simply our hired help. Once you get that down pat, the rest is easy.

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      sarah-goodwich-1 3 years ago

      @SBPI Inc: There IS no "the People;" that's a semantic legalism which actually pertains to the individuals states and their respective Peoples SEPARATELY. Not collectively as a single sovereign nation, but separate ones.The facts show beyond any question, that the USA is an international republic of separate nations like the UN, not a single combined nation like the UAE. In turn, each state is legally owned in supremely ruled in common, among its respective People; and thus their governments rule by consent of the governed, and the People have he right to alter or abolish it at will-- as a natural fact of each citizen having unalienable rights.Of course, that's NOT what they've been taught-- for the very purpose of the current possessors claiming legal ownership of their stolen property.. and nations.And THAT, my friend, is why we have so much inequality and corruption in America!

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      sarah-goodwich-1 3 years ago

      @sierradawn lm: Oh on the contrary, it's very EASY to figure out-- as easy as seeing that the Emperor's naked. Specifically, we're told that the USA is a national republic-- but plain history shows it to be INTERNATIONAL, among sovereign states. This is where it gets interesting: we're told that "the People rule the country.. but they don't." THAT'S where you see the man behind the curtain.. NAKED.

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      sarah-goodwich-1 3 years ago

      @David Stone1: They're invisible due to censorship-- beginning with the LIE that the USA is a national republic; in reality, of course, it's a FEDERAL republic among sovereign nations, just like the UN.However anyone who SPOKE this fact in 1861-1866, could be jailed, tortured, sent to a death-camp, or even executed under Martial Law courtesy of one "Honest Abe."By perpetrating this fraud of national authority, the federal republic thus became a feudal oligarchy; because the People of the states lost all direct authority over it; and thus it usurped direct power over THEM by default. This created the fiction of a Leviathan abstract corporate state, by which a few wielded absolute power in the name of the many. The details of who that is, are irrelevant as they are inevitable; after all, empire is empire, and statism is statism.However again: LEGALLY each state is STILL supremely owned and ruled by its respective individual People; and now that we know the truth, we can convene to take BACK our respective states.

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      sarah-goodwich-1 3 years ago

      @David Stone1: The problem is, you're confusing legal ownership, with mere POSSESSION lawful or otherwise.The fact is that "America" is not collectively OWNED by any party or parties, since it is a partnership not a corporation; however this partnership is among individual corporations (states), with each owned co-equally by its respective People (individual citizens).Claim to ownership was simply STOLEN FROM the People of each state, under the Lincoln Administration c. 1861, via brute-force invasion and conquest, by fiat and censorship; and this claim extended to the very People themselves-- and thus the federal government usurped the power to attach whatever "civic duties" it wished-- by whatever LOGIC it wished: taxation, conscription, or anything else, since the individual citizen no longer owned himself as a free sovereign, with corresponding unalienable rights.LEGALLY, however, each citizen STILL owns himself, and likewise his or her respective state in common. The proper course of action, therefore, is proper REPLEVIN against the wrongful usurpers-- which can be best attained by secession by the state against the wronful usurpers, via action of its respective People in convention.

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      sarah-goodwich-1 3 years ago

      Legally, nobody owns "America," since it's a supercontinent running from the Arctic circle to the Antarctic. Also nobody owns the United States OF America, since it is also NOT a sovereign state, but an international association OF sovereign states. Legally, therefore, each state is respective People. This claim was suppressed by the federal oligarchy in 1861, but this is a LIE and has no legal validity.So legally, each state is STILL owned by its respective People. They, not the state or federal government, are their own supreme rulers. Thus the South was legally correct: it COULD "by its own mere motion lawfully get out of the Union. Lincoln was a LIAR, just like Saddam Hussein regarding Kuwait-- i.e. "I say it's all one nation, and I've got more guns so I'm right." We tore down Saddam's statue, now it's time we did the same for the other charlatan.

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @Gypzeerose: I started it mostly for fun. Then, over time, it got more serious. It gets a lot of passionate responses.

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      Rose Jones 4 years ago

      Loved this lens, and the surprising groups that you chose. I agree with most of it. Social bookmarked and marked as a related lens on my own lens: https://hubpages.com/education/whyIflytheAmericanF

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: Yes, very rich and very invisible. Thanks. Good luck in becoming a citizen. We need more people with their eyes open.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      I am not an American yet somewhat I know that the there is no one group which we can tell they are but many groups of very very rich peoples.

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @Margaret Schindel: This is a good example lens, Margaret. it was born on HubPages but didn't go far. I switched over to Squidoo and, with the flexible format, kept tweaking and improving until it became a hit.I wish I could get away with more like this, but my funny lenses rarely do as well as this one.Thanks.

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      Margaret Schindel 4 years ago from Massachusetts

      Dave, satire is the most difficult form of writing and you do it so well. Now get your tongue out of your cheek. As my dad used to say, "What would happen if it froze like that?"

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @sierradawn lm: Thanks, again, sierradawn, for the compliment.

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      sierradawn lm 4 years ago

      You sum up my thoughts on the matter most eloquently: "I think there is so much we don't know that it's nearly impossible to figure out. That's why I decided to do it as a satire. (I don't think it's be much fun if we really knew.)"This is a delightful lens that has drawn very engaging comments. Thanx 4 it!

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @EpicEra: Would be nice, were it true, Darcie.

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      EpicEra 4 years ago

      Canada does - but "they'll" never admit that ;)

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      SBPI Inc 4 years ago

      @David Stone1: Thank you Dave, I knew that and I like your style.

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @SBPI Inc: Indulge. I wrote it tongue in cheek and every outside addition lends a new flavor. People are rarely neutral on this topic. Thanks.

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      SBPI Inc 4 years ago

      The real owners of The Untied States of America remain Sleeping Zombies - THE Our country was discovered with the support of wealthy people. Our fight to gain economic independence as a country was supported by wealthy people here and abroad. Our Constitution and Bill of Rights was created to protect the freedoms of wealthy people n order to secure themselves from outside claims. Constitution and Bill of right is for all in order to maintain, as one, freedoms enumerated which insure that they are supported and preserved for all and certainly includes wealthy people. We the People have become the insurance policy for the retention of wealth with premium payments being our enumerated freedoms. As control and power grew, premiums payments have slowly been reduced and there are many indications that the premiums (our freedoms) will erode into non-existence. PEOPLE - (Unconscious) Over time - have been duped into acceptance.. As a Republic, the 'people' have put their faith in a corrupt political machine which functions in support of their incremental grab of power and the wealthy are more secured at the expense of all others. Or are they really?What happens when people begin to feel the pain of what they have lost and start awakening? I have many thoughts on that question but I'd really like others to say what they feel or think.Great provocative lens. Thank you and I hope you do not mind my rambling as in reviewing what I have just written I see it is somewhat vebose and here I have added more. I beg your indulgence. Absolutely love your work.Jonathan

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @Erin Mellor: Sadly, Erin, unadorned as it may be, there isn't a specific point I could disagree with you on. There are times when things trend better, but the practical statistics of our decades long decline are there for anyone caring to read them.The factor you missed here, though, and the one everyone prefers to ignore is the American public. Not on of the leaders who've provided such poor service to the country elected himself or herself. We freely voted them in. Next, we start jumping on and blaming them for not living up to some ideal. The real failure is our own.

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      Erin Mellor 4 years ago from Europe

      America has very poor infrastructure - constant power failures, collapsing bridges, no national public transport network. I've always found this frustrating and baffling. A (only slightly paranoid) aging hippy shared his thoughts on that and they made more sense than the average conspiracy. The last great national public works project in the US was the Interstate highways. The Military Industrial Complex wanted that to move military vehicles around . The Unions wanted it because it meant jobs for the boys. The Mob wanted it because they made money off the unions, haulage and materials. Detroit wanted it because they could sell more vehicles, and Big Oil wanted it because they could sell more gas. No other project can mobilize all those constituencies.Oil and Military have brought expensive wars, but there's no mob or union money in that.Maybe he's crazy, maybe not.

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: I feel, Chad, no matter what name you use, is that you take a grain of truth and spin it so full of paranoid folderol, it's impossible to accept anything you post.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      @David Stone1: All internet comments are being monitored by the fascist private U.S. inc's NSA, David. They don't want to ACT like the fascists that they are so they act covertly as they eliminate the competition through murder, or financial pressure. The fascist totalitarian private government cannot be overt in their actions these days, so they attempt to keep a low profile. When you vote you're supporting fascism. How do you feel about that?

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @Socialpro54 LM: Love Belgium! Especially Bruge.

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      Socialpro54 LM 4 years ago

      I do not know much about America,'m from belgium :-)

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: I don't see how you can sum this up in a 100 words, Chad. You need a blog or an identity here on Squidoo or elsewhere to get to the details. I hope you find time to do that.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      @David Stone1: I strongly disagree, David... Everything is within our control. Perhaps you have simply decided to hand over the reigns of control to sociopathic mind manipulators! We create our own freedoms, realities either through our unwitting consent or through our power of perception and actions that lead to our realized ideals....

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: If things were that bad, would you or I feel free to make such open comments?

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: You do know what satire is, don't you?

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: Zin-Zeta, I can't say I've ever heard that way before. Maybe we should just convert to cloning and end the trauma.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      @anonymous: Can't disagree with just about anything you've posted here. It's the sad truth.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      This article is inaccurate, by the way.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      @aesta1: "Ordinary people" of these United States give up ownership as soon as they're born, when their "parents" sign away their rights through the signing of the birth certificate.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      @anonymous: "when OUR country, United States" *

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      @anonymous: Yes, we know their names, but names are fictions and so are the methods and or tactics that these so called names use to employ their plans for total control. The thing is, we give the deceivers their power by worshipping their mythical money supply, by voting for their representatives when votes are NEVER COUNTED... Yes, the sorry truth of the matter is that we have individually and collectively chosen to be the slaves of your so called "hidden hand," by simply playing their little games of make-believe, through contracts that you sign and through what you believe to be true. Know this, no FACT has ever been repudiated by another FACT and or fiction, but fictions and or myths are what we choose to die for and that my friends is the true definition of insanity.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      @David Stone1: Hey David, Carlin has a great youtube video, about who owns the country, just google on George Carlin, "The Owners Of The Country." It's good for a laugh if one is needed...

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      @anonymous: Hey don't blame America, though you can certainly blame our acceptance of the private UNITED STATES inc... which is owned by many internationalists who live outside of American boarders. Please leave America out of the U.S. when you discuss atrocities committed around the world. These terrorist events that you make reference to may not have originated within American boarders. Probably not... And in reality of the polity of the day, there is NO world democracy. It's more like a tyrannical fascist totalitarian plutocracy, and these ideologies are accepted throughout the so called free world. If you want to know a secret, then I'll tell you that all problems and solutions to these issues that you do so well to discuss within this forum are always looking at US in the mirror.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      @CarolineS01: The idea of ownership is based on a socially accepted fiction. I remember reading an old Joseph Campbell book back in my hippy days, and he made reference to some native American indian chief Seattle who said something about ownership that really struck a cord in me. He said something like, "The Great Chief in Washington sends word that he wishes to buy our land. . . . But we will consider your offer, for we know if we do not . . . the white man may come with guns and take our lands. . . . How can you buy or sell the sky the warmth of the land? The idea is strange to us. Yet we do not own the freshness of the air or the sparkle of the water. . . . Every part of this earth is sacred to my people. . . . When the buffaloes are all slaughtered, the wild horses all tamed, the secret corners of the forest heavy with the scent of many men, and the views of the ripe hills blotted by talking wires, where is the thicket? Gone. Where is the eagle? Gone.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      @anonymous: The voting system is rigged at the highest levels of the U.S. inc. Remember, what we perceive as government is NOT a government at all. It's a private for profit corporation that is owned by various Vatican banking interests, legal Middle Inn administrators etc... We might be wise to ask ourselves this following question. If we owned a private corporation, would we allow an election process to determine who would be our next board of directors? Or would we simply appoint them ourselves? They're all appointed and or hand selected and it doesn't matter if they're labeled as being either democrat, republican or independent, etc... They all serve the owners at the expense of all the SUCKERS who pay taxes... How do you like taking it where the sun doesn't shine?? Wake-UP and smell how organized The U.S. legal crime syndicate truly is.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      @David Stone1: George Carlin owns Americas spirit, David...

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      @David Stone1: To know thyself, David, is to know thy spirited ways that are naturally free from ownership.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      @brian-mccandliss: Are you aware that votes don't matter a wit at the highest levels of our so called private De Facto government inc.? The internationally based controllers of the U.S. corporation just want to pacify people into by convincing them into believing that their actually voting for their representatives, and nothing could be further from the truth. Sorry folks, we've been duped!

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      @David Stone1: So called, top level economists have been indoctrinated to march lock step in line with the puppet masters, they cannot observe outside of the box of their extremely limited perceptions of REALITY! In other words they function entirely within Alice's Wonderland and for the most part know not how the REAL world operates.

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: A lot of people, me for example, don't believe they've lost anything like that. It's not about property anyway or who holds the most gold. I couldn't care less. What I want to know is, who owns America's spirit?

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: I wasn't talking about education or anything I learned in school. (That was a long time ago, I didn't like it, and I'm an autodidact anyway.)What I meant was, if this is as obvious as you say, how come top level economists don't know or about? Or maybe, they just don't believe it.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      @David Stone1: Ownership is simply a socially accepted agreement based on legal fictions, contracts and word magic.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      @Anthony Altorenna: The problems began just after the Civil War, we were indebted to the Rothschild's and the Vatican Jesuits who financed it, and hence we had to sign over something to them in exchange for the funny money they were lending us. It began with the 16th amendment, then the District of Columbia ACT, the Federal Reserve ACT of 1913, the Gold Confiscation Order of 1933, the Brenton Woods Agreement of 1944, etc... We lost America to the Banking Interests that control US...

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      @David Stone1: Education is controlled, David! Most of what we're taught in school is BS, especially when it's about history...

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: Hmm. Chad, how did we all miss that?

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      The international banking cartel owns the U.S,. inc. They consist of the Rothschild's, Rockefeller's, The Schiff's, Warberg's etc... The problem started when OUR country America went into debt to this bankers after wars in which these bankers instigated through their propaganda media and various educational establishments. Through the ACT of 1871, the U.S. was incorporated and all the Citizens became DEBTORS to the Banking Cartels Creditors, we actually consent to signing our natural born rights over to the cartel through their contracts, such as Birth Certificate Applications, Drivers License, and social security numbers etc... In other words we have socially accepted to be the slaves of the bankers who we have allowed to own us.

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @Anthony Altorenna: It all depends, Anthony, on what "owns" means. That's the irony.Thanks.

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      Anthony Altorenna 4 years ago from Connecticut

      Though it is a bit idealistic, I like to think that the American citizens own the United States.

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @brian-mccandliss: The original intent does seem to have been obfuscated by agendas over time, Brian. Actions taken by the federal government to force states into subordinate, unequal roles has taken root, so that next to nobody sees sovereign states anymore, in spite of all the bluster in places like Texas.Thanks for the thoughtful comment.

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      brian-mccandliss 4 years ago

      The USA is not a single sovereign nation, and therefore does not have a single group of owners. By law, the USA is 50 separate sovereign states or nations, each supremely owned and ruled in common by its respective People, or voting citizens.This has been suppressed for about 150 years, but the law hasn't been changed, and therefore it must be interpreted according to its original intent.

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @aesta1: But you may be exactly right, aesta1. Thanks for the thought.

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      Mary Norton 4 years ago from Ontario, Canada

      I am not from the U.S. I find this interesting. Sometimes, I think, it is because ordinary people have given up ownership. This is easy to say when you are distant from the reality.

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: Susie, I think there is so much we don't know that it's nearly impossible to figure out. That's why I decided to do it as a satire. (I don't think it's be much fun if we really knew.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      I have read so many things on this topic, and I just think things are haywire from what people believe and what is.

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @HSP Connections: The situation is such, Denmarkguy, that the only sensible approach is to live a genuine life, accepting that a great deal is out of our control.

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      Peter Messerschmidt 4 years ago from Port Townsend, WA, USA

      Enjoyed reading this-- some good things to think about. The thought that keeps running through my mind is that things are RARELY as they appear.

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      David Stone 4 years ago from New York City

      @anonymous: Anonymous, lighten up. It's a satire.

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      @David Stone1: My question is yes you make valid points to everything you said but for how long will you point these things out without doing Anything about it or are you like all the rest that say and points out what's wrong but can't quite come up with a way to let people know the truths. Or are you ok with being put up in the back drops and silenced your on the right track dig some more and when you reach the REAL answer ill give you REAL ways on how to turn this around - anonymous

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      David Stone 5 years ago from New York City

      @crstnblue: Interesting abstraction. I think that would be hard to get at in a definable way, but like they say, if you get it, you get it.

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      crstnblue 5 years ago

      Mentioned above, and... all in all, in a sour funny way, the so said "Big Brother" (the convenient mask of all the others): )