ArtsAutosBooksBusinessEducationEntertainmentFamilyFashionFoodGamesGenderHealthHolidaysHomeHubPagesPersonal FinancePetsPoliticsReligionSportsTechnologyTravel

Boy Trouble Advice from My Lesbian Friend: 10 Things to Stop Doing if He Won't Commit

Updated on December 20, 2016

At a recent girl's night I was reunited with an old friend I hadn't seen since high school. Since then she's made a killer living as a boiler maker alongside coming out of the closet. She travels to remote places to do intense labor that earns her a living most of us can only dream of. Her job also requires living in a camp with men, men and nothing but men. After being exposed to them in their natural habitat for so long she has integrated into the herd and they have accepted her as one of their own.

"He's charming, right?" She asked innocently when I started dishing about a guy in my life that just can't seem to commit. "He does sweet things to keep you coming back like buying you chocolate during that special time of month or showing up with the McNuggets you were craving? He says you're one of his best friends."

100% CORRECT. And the sex is so out of this world that we've become best friends with the cat and the fiddle who jumped over the moon ever since we started to *cough* diddle diddle.

With so many girls suffering from being a hopeless romantic in a hook up culture, I thought it was important to share my friend's advice on what I needed to stop doing if he wouldn't commit. After all, she had come back with knowledge from the other side:

1. STOP Messaging Him First (or at All).

"I just want to message him and tell him how much it hurts," I whined pathetically over a half empty bottle of Chardonnay. My friend was quick to snatch up my phone.

"Don't. Does he ever message you first?"

"Sometimes." Admittedly only after I've stopped talking to him for a few days.

"Uh huh. If he's not reaching out to you then he's not worth it. He messages you when he's bored or lonely. You're like a pack of cigarettes to him. Worse, he'd probably chose a pack of smokes over you."

"But how is he ever going to know what he did was wrong?"

"He knows he hurt you. Guys aren't dumb. He would rather just drink a beer than keep dwelling on it like you are. Way he sees it he can't change what he doesn't feel."

2. STOP Mistaking Good Sex for a Genuine Connection.

"But the sex is so amazing! He's taken so much time to figure out what I like and we have such an amazing connection."

"Well yeah, what guy wants to know they can't satisfy the girl they're with? He didn't do a good job because he cares about you. He did it because it'd hurt his pride if he didn't."

"It felt more like . . ." It felt pathetic to say. "It felt like he really felt something when we were in the bedroom."

"And maybe he did but that doesn't mean it overshadows the other things in his life. The guys at the camp have girls they talk about now and again and who they hook up with when they're home. They don't hate them or want to hurt them. They actually respect them quite a bit. But it doesn't mean they're about to change their lifestyle for them."

3. STOP Playing Housewife for Him.

"But it's so much more than that. He wakes me up with tea and breakfast in the morning sometimes. We take turns cooking dinner and sometimes go grocery shopping together. We even clean his apartment together especially when I've been staying there for a few days."

"So what? You stayed there and made a mess with him and now you're helping him clean? That's just common courtesy to him that you're picking up your shit."

"Sometimes he would let me stay there and use his satellite while he was at work and I'd clean up even if I hadn't made the mess."

"And whose fault is that? Did he ask you to do that? Expect you to do that?"

4. STOP Believing That No One Else Has Got His Attention

"We haven't been sleeping with anyone else since we started hooking up."

"Not every guy is about sleeping with different girls every night but it doesn't mean that they're into committing to just one for the rest of their lives either. When the guys come home from the camp they have five months before they're heading back out again. Picking up girls at the bar is hard for some guys, especially if they're homebodies and would rather just hang out at home drinking beer. Committing to sleeping with one girl for a few months is a lot different than being ready to commit for life."

5. STOP Letting Him Blame Timing.

"I can't blame him though. When we met he was just out of a seven year relationship. I can't even imagine how much that screwed with his head. I should be happy he's even opened up to me as much as he has and his job is stressful and requires travel so I understand why it's not good timing."

"STOP. That's not an excuse. How long has it been since they broke up?" She was somewhat incredulous at how many excuses I had made for him.

"Over a year now."

"And how long were you two sleeping together?"

"About six months."

"So he knows what it's like to have you around and he's still blaming his ex? That sounds to me like a nice way of saying 'You're not the one for me but I'm not quite ready to phase you out of the roster yet.' I've seen guys straight out of ten year relationships that are heartbroken as hell and then meet the right girl and end up happily married a couple years later. Guys are pretty simple creatures - if they want it, they get it. So if he's not making an effort . . ."

"Yeah, yeah . . ." Things were looking pretty bleak.

6. STOP Making Excuses When He Doesn't Come Through for You.

"And how many times did he bail on plans?"

"Quite a bit. Blew me off on valentines day for a ski trip with his sister. Wouldn't even come bring soup when I was sick and we had plans. Cancelled instead because he didn't want to catch what I had. Oh man . . . do you know how many times I took care of him when he was hungover? Not even sick. Just hungover. What a jerk."

At that point the wine was gone and my gal's and I were getting riled up about things. While most of them were voicing their support one of them sat quietly nursing her beer. When she finally spoke it wasn't what I was expecting and felt like a mic had been dropped.

"Yeah, but really no one can make you feel like that without you letting them."

Darn. This had so little to do with how he had behaved toward me and everything to do with how I had allowed him to behave.

7. STOP Planning for a Future Together Thinking That He'll Come Around.

"I just really saw a life together. A nice country property where we could shoot our guns and buy sheep. And I could bake pies and put them in the windowsill. You know, classic country housewife stuff."

8. STOP Integrating Yourself Into His Family and Friends.

"And his family loves me and I'll miss them if I cut him off."

9. STOP Saying You Won't Move on and That He Was "The One."

"I've tried to date other people now that I know that's something he wants but I just can't move on. No one makes me feel the same way. Still feels like we're supposed to be together and he's just being . . . dumb, you know?"

10. STOP Convincing Yourself That You're a Bad Person for Needing to Choose Yourself Since He Won't.

"Look, I get that this sucks," she told me as she prepared to leave. She couldn't stay long with several other visits to make while she was in town still. "It's hard, especially when it's probably true that you're one of his best friends. But that's all you are. Maybe he does talk to you more than he talks to anyone else. Everyone needs friends. But if you can't get over the sleeping together thing maybe it's time to cut him off."

"How can I do that? If I say I love him how do I cut him off if that's true? You don't cut off the people that you love. You don't give up."

"No. But you love yourself too, right? Sometimes you have to chose you because they just never will."



    0 of 8192 characters used
    Post Comment
    • dashingscorpio profile image


      2 years ago

      No matter what you should always love yourself first!

      Problems arise when people have (unrealistic expectations )or they expect others to "change". 20 something you old guys are not interested in settling down! That's the reality of most young men that many young women ignore.

      More often than not when someone "hangs in there" they're "hoping" the person they are with is going to one day give them what they want.

      People don't "change" unless (they) are unhappy.

      Timing is only an "excuse" if one chooses not to believe it's the truth!

      The only other option is to believe you're not "the one" if you think he/she would commit at this age/time with (another person).

      It's important to know in order for him or her to be "the one" they would have to see (you) as being "the one". At the very least a "soul-mate" is someone who actually wants to be with you! (And vice versa).

      "Never love anyone who treats you like you're ordinary."

      - Oscar Wilde

    • Kodie Van Dusen profile imageAUTHOR


      2 years ago from South-Western Ontario, CANADA

      Thank you for taking the time to respond to my post! I agree entirely and thank you for adding some figures to substantiate.

      Mind you, these are things I know. Feelings can't be forced and there truly is such a thing as bad timing. Still, the idea of bad timing is often used as an excuse to cling to a relationship that isn't there. For that reason I felt a lot of girls out there are probably in the same position as I was when I heard all of this. Sometimes you need to forget whether it's about timing or whether you are or aren't meant to be and choose to love yourself first.

    • dashingscorpio profile image


      2 years ago

      There are two basic reasons why men don't commit.

      1. Timing - He's likes the way thing are and has other priorities.

      2. You are not "the one".

      According to statistics by age 44 about 85% of men have been married at least once. This would indicate the odds are the guy you're with (is) going to commit to someone!

      Now that we have "marriage equality" laws odds are a good percentage of the 15% of men who don't get married will as well. You have to assume that some of those unmarried men are gay.

      There have been instances where guys have dated women for several years and after they breakup they become engaged to their next girlfriend after only six months of dating. Actor George Clooney a former world famous "serial monogamist" comes to mind.

      No doubt his previous girlfriends thought he "feared commitment" but the reality is (they) were not "the one". He did get married!

      Oftentimes the issue with commitment is about gender differences and expectations. In the U.S. the average guy doesn't start seriously thinking about settling down or getting married until he's in his late 20s or early 30s.

      Therefore any woman in her late teens or early 20s dating a guy in her age group most likely is setting herself up for heartache or disappointment if he hopes to marry him.

      The average 20 something year old guy either just escaped his parent's basement or a college dorm room. He wants to focus on his career, party with friends, watch sports, play video games, and get laid.

      The last thing on his mind is getting married, signing a 30 year mortgage, having children and essentially becoming his parents!

      The very thought of that is like watching their life flash before their eyes!

      One of the reasons some younger guys are into older women is because those women have already had the "big wedding" or experienced the "fairytale" and have gotten divorced. They now appreciate their freedom and independence. Their attitude towards sex and relationships no longer has the primary agenda of getting a man to commit or marry them. They're happy "living in the moment".

      Most guys view their 20s as a period of freedom and exploration. Naturally there are instances of "serial monogamy" when they come across an exceptional girl but it doesn't mean they're ready to call it wrap with regard to keeping their options open during their youth.

      Therefore a woman in her 20s who has her sights on getting married would probably do better to date guys in their early 30s.

      Bottom line if you and your mate don't want the same thing then he or she is not the one for you!


    This website uses cookies

    As a user in the EEA, your approval is needed on a few things. To provide a better website experience, uses cookies (and other similar technologies) and may collect, process, and share personal data. Please choose which areas of our service you consent to our doing so.

    For more information on managing or withdrawing consents and how we handle data, visit our Privacy Policy at:

    Show Details
    HubPages Device IDThis is used to identify particular browsers or devices when the access the service, and is used for security reasons.
    LoginThis is necessary to sign in to the HubPages Service.
    Google RecaptchaThis is used to prevent bots and spam. (Privacy Policy)
    AkismetThis is used to detect comment spam. (Privacy Policy)
    HubPages Google AnalyticsThis is used to provide data on traffic to our website, all personally identifyable data is anonymized. (Privacy Policy)
    HubPages Traffic PixelThis is used to collect data on traffic to articles and other pages on our site. Unless you are signed in to a HubPages account, all personally identifiable information is anonymized.
    Amazon Web ServicesThis is a cloud services platform that we used to host our service. (Privacy Policy)
    CloudflareThis is a cloud CDN service that we use to efficiently deliver files required for our service to operate such as javascript, cascading style sheets, images, and videos. (Privacy Policy)
    Google Hosted LibrariesJavascript software libraries such as jQuery are loaded at endpoints on the or domains, for performance and efficiency reasons. (Privacy Policy)
    Google Custom SearchThis is feature allows you to search the site. (Privacy Policy)
    Google MapsSome articles have Google Maps embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
    Google ChartsThis is used to display charts and graphs on articles and the author center. (Privacy Policy)
    Google AdSense Host APIThis service allows you to sign up for or associate a Google AdSense account with HubPages, so that you can earn money from ads on your articles. No data is shared unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
    Google YouTubeSome articles have YouTube videos embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
    VimeoSome articles have Vimeo videos embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
    PaypalThis is used for a registered author who enrolls in the HubPages Earnings program and requests to be paid via PayPal. No data is shared with Paypal unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
    Facebook LoginYou can use this to streamline signing up for, or signing in to your Hubpages account. No data is shared with Facebook unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
    MavenThis supports the Maven widget and search functionality. (Privacy Policy)
    Google AdSenseThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
    Google DoubleClickGoogle provides ad serving technology and runs an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
    Index ExchangeThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
    SovrnThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
    Facebook AdsThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
    Amazon Unified Ad MarketplaceThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
    AppNexusThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
    OpenxThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
    Rubicon ProjectThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
    TripleLiftThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
    Say MediaWe partner with Say Media to deliver ad campaigns on our sites. (Privacy Policy)
    Remarketing PixelsWe may use remarketing pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to advertise the HubPages Service to people that have visited our sites.
    Conversion Tracking PixelsWe may use conversion tracking pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to identify when an advertisement has successfully resulted in the desired action, such as signing up for the HubPages Service or publishing an article on the HubPages Service.
    Author Google AnalyticsThis is used to provide traffic data and reports to the authors of articles on the HubPages Service. (Privacy Policy)
    ComscoreComScore is a media measurement and analytics company providing marketing data and analytics to enterprises, media and advertising agencies, and publishers. Non-consent will result in ComScore only processing obfuscated personal data. (Privacy Policy)
    Amazon Tracking PixelSome articles display amazon products as part of the Amazon Affiliate program, this pixel provides traffic statistics for those products (Privacy Policy)