Now, I'm positive I will receive angry comments from Muslim men - & Muslim women in response to this question. Most likely replying they do have respect for themselves. I mean no disrespect, but to a man raised in a society where women have so many more rights than traditional Muslim women, I do not see Muslim women as having respect for themselves. And frankly, I do not want my daughters to marry in to subjugation to a man. A partner, yes. A subordinate, no. So please do not respond angrily. Calmly & politely tell me why I am wrong - or if right, answer the question as posed.
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Thank you JThomp42. I mean no ill will or disrespect toward anyone w/my question as u understand. It does seem an uphill battle for respect 4 some groups in this world; women being probably the no.1 disrespected historically.
Girls and women in other religions are inculcated with the premise that they are lesser than men. In many Christian religions, women are still viewed as inferior to men.Roman Catholicism is very ANTI-woman in its reproductive &religious ideology.
gmwilliams, I grew up in a Catholic family & neighborhood. U must not know many Catholics. There is no comparison between Catholic & Muslim women. Catholics will & can express themselves - by law & culture. Muslim women - I don't th
I attended Catholic school,being inculated in this ideology. I eventually left Roman Catholicism because of its atavistic anti-woman ideology.There are Catholic women who feel that they,as women,are inferior to men; their only role is to serve.
gmwilliams, u must have had a bad life. Hard 2 believe u a man left because of treatment of women. I can't believe your educational background is blind to Islam's treatment of women. I do not advocate any religion, but Islam is worst for women.
No, I did not have a bad life. Correction,I am a woman. I do not believe in any religion at all.However, Roman Catholicism is one of the MOST ANTI-WOMAN religions. I,as an intelligent, modern, and self-respecting woman don't believe in Catholicism.
Sorry gmwilliams, I don't know why, but I thought u a man. My apologies. We r on same page w/religion. I don't believe in any myself. I believe respect comes within, not from without & most religions do not treat women equal 2 men.
No need to apologize at all.
U make valid pts.! Not the least there r many western women who whore themselves in many ways disrespectfully. & yes, women world-wide still lack respect more than any other group. But choice & opportunity is a start; Muslim's -no choice.
Question: If a Muslim woman & her Muslim husband disagree, who wins? Is not respect give & take. Win & lose. Give in & don't give in. One can be raised in a culture of no respect based on sex. Does that make it something to be proud
Nothing to be proud of, I agree with you,women should think for themselves,everyone should think for themselves for that matter. However,if thats what you are raised to believe, and you haven't been taught any other way,how can you know any better
I understand what you r saying. But we all grow up taught to act/believe a certain way. If historically we never respected ourselves or sought change, Martin Luther King, Jr. would have been ignored & we would still have slaves in the U.S.A.
Uh huh, in some religious homes, regardless of religion, the male is the dominant one and the woman blindly & stupidly accept this mandate as preordained.Before we castigate Muslim women,Southern Baptists say women should submit to their husbands
gmwilliams, u seem fixated on defending Muslim men & Islam's treatment of Muslim women by making unfair comparisons. U compare the few against the many. U compare bad people against religious dogma. Do u want your daughters to live as Muslims?
fpherj48, not only some Muslim, there are women of many religious demonimations who DON'T respect themselves.Such women are just mere automatons, not choosing to be accountable for their particular lives. Some Christian women are FAR WORSE!
gmwilliams, no comparison between Christian & Muslim women - on average. The few Christian women u mention are outnumbered 1000 to 1 by Muslim women. U don't think there r Muslim women who r today fighting to have the same rights? I hope 4 them.
No push-ups 4 my daughters.lol. It is a matter of choice. Women historically still r most disrespected. But Muslims have no choice. Bodies born with male genitalia can rule & end their lives. My daughters can divorce abuse; it's easier 4 them.
Correction, computer glitch-the statement should read as follows:Although they are in their respective religions, they elect NOT to permit their religion to rule and determine their lives, they have minds of their own.
True regarding women "in general." But it seems to be the "politically correct" thing to not criticize other cultures & religions. If I am 2 hold true 2 that, I should honor slavery, man's right to control women, etc. There r differences ...
I understand your pt. & believe it valid & yes "choices" r made as well as forced upon us. I'm not stating "right" or "wrong." But historically -men have forced their will & control upon women. Respect demands equal value.
To Sheila, HEEEEY, with you there. Many woman in Christian families are indeed stifled.They meekly follow the male authority in their respective families and their ministers or priests. Whatever the MALE says, it's all right by them.
gmwilliams, you r not looking at the average Christian. I'm looking at common averages. There is a big difference between the lives of most Christian women & most Muslim women. To argue otherwise is either naive or uninformed. Reality.