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Nice pic Good answer DS. But I believe it is the sacrefice of ones self what true love is made of. Material things is an expression. but the heart does more it is the seed of motivation expressed in many ways. Example comfort can be a gift .
I agree K&T! When one has a "forgiving" nature, is "open & honest," or tells TRUTH (regardless of impact), he has "laid down his life for his friend" ("sacrificed himself!") which is the TRUE definition of LOVE!
You both are proving my point.
"Love is in the eye of the beholder."
What makes one person (feel loved) may not make another person feel loved. Everyone has their own idea of what love should look/feel like along with their proof/litmus tests.
Not if they're "IN CHRIST!" U see, when 1 LOVES as WORD defines, "beholds" the "SAME WAY" which is according to HIS WORD!
TRUTH is GOD & GOD is LOVE!
We're talking about romance not religion on this question.
Secondly even religious people are INDIVDIUALS.
Your likes, wants, needs, and desires may be different from other members of your church.
Life is a (persona)l journey.
Author didn't specify "romantic!"
Unfortunately, you look @ love fm human standpoint (temp/conditional); whereas I, fm GOD'S viewpoint!
The question was posted under "gender relations". That normally implies romantic relationships, dating, & marriage.
You are a LIAR! It was posted under Gender "AND" RELATIONSHIPS and that's your problems, you have no "relationship" w/GOD!
Did you see my answer? "Honest?" Therefore, you are "hateful!" But I forgive (Ignorance) whether u want r not as ALL!
Where does all this venom come from???
I said the category gender relations (NORMALLY) applies to dating, marriage, & relationships.
Don't believe me look at the Q&As for that topic.
Being a Christian you sound very (unhappy) with li
When it says Gender "AND" "Relationships" I don't know about you, but I have a "Relationship" w/GOD & it appears you do not!
"Normally" is ONLY thing that's in the eye of the beholder 2 world!
Happiness is ONLY in JESUS, so who isn't "happy?"
Wow that would mean that you are not in Jesus because it is as plain as the light of day that you are unhappy. Or I guess it could be the the Holy Spirit has not taught you yet how to show both man and God happiness.
Norine you sound like a "one note" band.
Gender & Relationships (normally) deals with our relationships with other (people).
HP does have other categories to pose questions such as religion & philosophy. You do seem very angry or unhappy.
I "normally" stay in that category because of one's such as you! It's bad enough u guys come. MOST who proclaim know nothing of IT!
Right is wrong to MOST!
ME? Desire no one LOST!
Tell TRUTH! "Open & Honest!"
Norine, Q&A section is where people leave their (opinions) on various topics. It's not about being "right" or "wrong".
My opinion is my own just as yours is your own.
You delight in arguing with folks for the fun of it!
No minds change in HP
Dashingscorpio, You hit the nail square on the head with that last post.
Dashing I like that comment. Though I must admit I have had my opinion influenced by some things I learn here.
Dash: It's up to GOD "if minds are chg'd on HP!" "I plant the seed, HE gives the increase" (I Cor 3:6)! BLINDED by SATAN if not!
Eric: Apparently your heart not "hardened!"
You said "..have to act like it?"
Dash said "Their goal is to "win you over"! How do u know the diff? Especially on HP! Explain!
Eric said: "Over years they have to be loving when you are going through a rough spot and are hard to love."
Only time reveals how sincere someone is.
Each of us also has our own definition of love, expectations, and deeds that "prove love".
"IF" a believer, MUST define as GOD does! Not "our own," ONLY HIS definition!
AND SO IT IS WITH GOD!
And if you love them you'd try to avoid doing things that would require them to forgive you. It's one of those "circle of life" things I suppose.
If you "loved me" you would blah blah blah...etc
It's all in the eye of the beholder!
Do we "respect" GOD by keeping HIS WORD in Scripture under the New Covenant (what HE DIED for)?
OTHERWISE; we "HATE" GOD!
God has given all of us free will,so with that we should do good things atleast in his memory( of jesus.).
"Good things" to GOD are "keeping his commands" and "obeying HIS WORD!"
"Indifference" is key word!
Love is an emotion. One is "invested" in another.
Indifference means (emotionally detached).
In fact I would say indifference is the true opposite of love.
Even those who "hate someone" are emotionally invested.
Love is an emotion caused by ignorantly using judgmental adjectives produces in us, stop over indulging & over abstaining & objectively use both to find their purposes emotions will disappear. Indifference is the "middle path" between opposi
Elijah it sounds like we both agree that love is an emotion. :)
"Lack of interest, sympathy or concern" for oneself" is LOVE or "sacrificing oneself!"
Y'all see how they dog me when giving TRUTH in WORD, but doesn't matter, for I LOVE ALL & desire no one is LOST; that's LOVE!
Yes, Dashing, only an emotion.
NW, No one will ever be lost, it appears woman & human are lost because they are not "minds able to comprehend all things" as man mens.
Eli: And is why we should move fm "carnal" (man) realm into "Spiritual" realm to become Christ-like ("Spirit") to "comprehend all things!"
And that comes only after experiencing all personalities in man individually & all combinations before going through the metamorphosis of the new birth, until then everyone is a woman, human and carnal.
Well, I must have experienced all that, because I Jn 4:17 "Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as HE is, so are we "in this world!"
when gone through the metamorphosis [new birth] you know what happened when you were conceived, during gestating, travail, birth and in which stage between baby and adult you are or you aren't born of the spirit, NW, Frogs and other metaphases do.
Y'all "catch up" (Spiritually)! The WORD says we "change from glory to glory" (II Cor 3:18), but we can't get pass baptism (Acts 2:38), ONE SPIRIT (I Cor 12), preaching the "Gospel of Christ" (Gal 1:6-9), Communion (Heb 9:14)+ bcuz II Cor 4:4!!
NW, Read Romans 1:20 and Hebrews 11:1, you talk about the WORD but what evidence and substance have you to reveal what they mean? Find "made proof" then preach less people see "your nakedness [ignorance]" (Rev.1:18 & 16:15).
Sometimes I wonder if people who insist on their version of love might be vainglorious and conceited. Perhaps an exaggerated love of self and what they have to say. It sure comes across that way.
Eric, almost every case it seems that way to someone. Israel had Yoshua crucified because of what he said and I'm sure he felt the same about their teachings although he understood. "Evil & good's knowledge" eating causes that attitude.
Fair enough. But as you did. Citing scripture about what was right or wrong in a given scenario to say that the speaker is like/same as that person persecuted in the Bible seems vainglorious to me.
Eli & Eric: I preach WORD! If IT'S WRITTEN, u need to "Search" (which evidences your sincerity toward GOD) "IF" you TRULY seek Salvation (Acts 17:11) no matter what your opinion of me!
Eric, I said that because NW is a proclaimer of words without proof, at least I work to present environmental things as proof as "the written word" demands.
That is a thought worthy of good contemplation.
Eli: "environmental things?" What does that have to do w/a "Spiritual" relationship w/GOD?
Eric: I know u don't know what I'm talking about w/your "one sided" love affair w/GOD! Your "philosophy" KILLS! Jer 23:1!
NW, read Romans 1:20, "the things made reveals the unseen, even the godhead"
Eli: TRUE! Then u KNOW "HE fills the heaven & earth" & not just 3, RIGHT? GOD has LOTS of HEADS not just Father, Son & Holy Spirit!
Example: When HE talked through "Burning Bush" wasn't that HIS "personality?" Same w/OTHER "GLORIES," i
NW, What does your question have to do with Romans 1:20? It says use the seen to comprehend the unseen and [we in the last days] will not have an excuse for not mowing truth when presented. I understand the burning bush because of my experiences.
Eli: Rm 1:20 "the things "made" (revealed by Spirit) not "carnal" thgs! (v20: "For the INVISIBLE thgs of him fm the creation of the world are clearly seen, being UNDERSTOOD by the thgs that are made (OF SPIRIT), Even (THIS TOO) his eternal pwr &
NW, Spirit is in animals, plants and inanimate objects so why doesn't the physical reveal the spiritual? Why don't you focus on all things as a whole and not in parts. Oh, you aren't reborn out of being human and woman and into man, explains it.
What r u saying? Holy Spirit doesn't manifest (physical) change in one? WORD begs to differ (HEALING for one)! Holy Spirit moves past your thinking (woman to man) & into "Spiritual" realm where "no gender" (Gal 3:28)!
NW, "All are called, few are chosen" is HS' manifested in physicals man as the new birth. HS know when one has lived every attribute on earth qualifying them to enter the next phase of existence we call heaven. Reason with HS and know. Isa 1:18.
Yes works of HS manifested physically! Again, HS has passed your thinking in my life ("carnal")! Catch up & obey HIS WORD (Is 1:20) which is living AFTER Day of Pentecost!
Notice Word "judgment" in next verse?
If you're spiritually born what happened at your conception, during your gestating, during your travailing, what was your birth, you did during babyhood, and at which level of spiritual growth you are. I am 39 years 11 months an adolescent.
What r u? Insane? Do you underestimate the POWER of the HOLY SPIRIT?
Need I remind u how long it took Paul?
If you've forgotten, INSTANTLY!
Yes, I'm insane. "In" means "covered by" and I'm sanity immersed. I use HS daily, has testimony how my new birth makes me not live like the un-reborn as reborn tadpoles, frogs, no longer lives in water but lay eggs in it as I'm doing.
Well, if you're "in" Christ, you must be preaching the "Gospel of Christ" which began AFTER the Day of Pentecost; otherwise "ACCURSED" (Gal 1:6-9) & I didn't put IT there!
Amen PaigSr! AND SO IT IS W/GOD!
If one "LOVES" HIM, they would show "action" by reading & believing HIS WORD!
You know K&T I kind of think that all true love comes from God. No matter where you go or even bad people there is some love -- hence omnipresent.
If we allow!
What if your marriage was built on lies, deceit & always holding grudges?
However, if (as GOD) honest, truthful and forgiving (which "sacrifices ourselves" and/or "our desires"); now that's REAL LOVE?