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The death penalty, a reason to kill, do two wrongs make a right? Blind Justice?

Updated on May 23, 2012

Is it justice or murder?

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Is it right or wrong? Whose hands are truly dirty?


I am a mother of a very beautiful four year old girl. I consider myself open to all views most of the time, however in some circumstances I feel you have to make a stance. I do not support the death penalty in any situation. I have seen some of and researched some of the most horrific crimes in American as well as English History. From Jack the Ripper, to Ted Bundy, from Susan Smith to Carla Ray Tucker.


Each case had its own distinct players and circumstances. From the serial killer, who kills targets certain distinctive people, to random individuals, causing countless destruction to so many and their families. To the young mother who decides to end the lives of her children to gain a fresh start in her life as well as teens who commit murder as a way of fitting in. The stories are endless to say the least. One common thread is the fact that each individual has either killed literally or been convicted of killing.


My question is in killing this person that our society has deemed as less than human, a barbarian, a murderer, a psychopath, etc.; are we then saying that it is ok for our justice system to commit murder because they murdered? That does not sit well with me one bit. I am trying to teach my daughter that there are consequences for your actions; however I do not say that to say that if someone kills that the only justice is murdering them. I think that makes the situation worse. When someone is murdered or killed that person does not suffer alone.


Murder may be committed with a group or in a lonely fashion, but the consequences of murder are communal. We did not come on this earth by ourselves and we do not leave without their being a communal response and grievance no matter who we are. There was great effort into our births from doctors, nurses, parents, family members, etc., it takes a village. So why would we isolate the village in the act of executing someone, does not the village matter anymore, because of one debatably self-act? I ask you does killing someone for murdering your love one bring you healing.


The simple answer for me is no. It may make you feel relief that they are going to never hurt another living soul, but it does not give you true healing. We are momentary creatures of habit and what satisfies us one moment will not sustain us the next. You may feel a sense of justice, but your true healing with be much harder and take a lot more soul searching and limitless time.


Can we live with communal killing?


Can we as a humankind community live with murder for murder? There are some that think, you reap what you sow, an eye for an eye, but who are you as an equal member of society to decide when someone gets it? Who are we to become literally the judge, jury, and executioner/murder of another, because we feel it is just? Is there such a thing as a just killing, hanging, murder, shooting, etc.? My argument is not that we do not deserve to be punished as I stated with consequences for our actions, but isn't that enough with one life.


I do not say that to say that I value the life of the murderer over the victim on the contrary. I just believe that we as a free thinking, technologically sound and forward thinking society can handle this issue better. We have those that are placed on death row through the "just court proceedings" such as Troy Davis and proclaim their innocence, and because a jury of their peers or a judge says they should die, we kill them. Should Troy Davis's cries as well as others who proclaim their innocent on death row cries be unheard, because of the guilty verdict? There have been cases where the death convictions have been overturned because of evidence or whatever the situation may be.


Not to say that everyone is innocent that says so I am not that naive. How many more individuals do we have to inject, shock, etc. before we come to the realization that it is wrong? I struggled with my stance on this issue for many years and when I had my daughter in 2008, I said I do not support the death penalty in any case except for pedophiles. That was my thought and fear kicking in, but I have concluded in my own time that its wrong no matter whom it is?


There is no one life greater than the other. There is such thing as innocence, that I believe wholeheartedly, but with the death penalty its divides more than it supposedly accomplishes. Why can’t we allow people to live with what they have done, no we have to SEE them PAY! I WILL HAVE MY DAY IN COURT! What is really at stake for us? If we truly believe in KARMA or you will reap what you sow what will we reap for committing their murder or what karma lies ahead for us?


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      brittvan22 5 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

      @Ann, I can understand your position, feel free to write/comment until your heart is content. I used to be for the death penalty, because I thought that some ppl should receive death, but as I grew and the depth of my spirituality came I could no longer support it. My life is no more important that the next person. It is not for me to judge their lives. Too many men and women are executed and innocent, I would not want to be a part of taking one more innocent life, Troy Davis was enough. Karla Tucker, could have been rehabiliated or not I can say, but from what I saw she seemed to be, yet she was executed. It is too much and to think they are suffering alone is an understatement. As I stated in another hub murder maybe done alone, but the affects and effects are communal. Look at the movie massacre in Colorado and its communal effect. Yes its unfortunate that we as tax payers fund their prison stay, but would we rather nothing happen. I just can't support murder of anyone. I value life too much. Maybe I can't see the good in them that does not mean that there is no good and I would not want the blood of anyone on my hands. Difficult people and situations teach of things, if I could I would avoid all conflict, pain, murder, death, etc, but the reality is it is real and happens. We as people have to deal with it, killing is not right from a murderer, policemen, or the person administering lethal injection it is wrong on all accounts. Self-defense is argueable in cases, but lethal injection does not qualify for me personally. Thanks for sharing.

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      Ann1Az2 5 years ago from Orange, Texas

      This subject always reeks havoc among debaters, I'm afraid. The subject is touchy. One reason is that jurors are human and they are flawed. I'm sure there have been cases where the death penalty was used on an innocent person and that is sad. But do we use that as an accuse to let murderers and other people who are a serious risk to society live and be supported by tax payers' money?

      Case in point - Charles Manson. At the time he was convicted, there was no death penalty. He got life in prison. He's been up for parole several times, but, thank goodness, wasn't released. What if one day, someone on the parole board decides to turn him loose? Do we really want someone like that running loose in society?

      The death penalty has its purpose. In many cases, it protects society. It isn't used as revenge. Granted, someone whose child has just been raped by a pedophile probably wants revenge, but if the pedophile has a history that was proven and the jurors sentenced him, isn't the death penalty in that case used for the good of society?

      The Bible says in Genesis 9:6, "Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed..." Less anyone says that was the Old Testament and the New Testament did away with that:

      In Matthew 5:17, Jesus says "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets, I did not come to destroy but to fulfill."

      Paul says in Romans 13: 1-5: "Let every soul by subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. For he is God's minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God's minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil. Therefore you must be subject, not only because of wrath but also for conscience sake."

      It is not our job to seek revenge on someone - that is left to God. But to execute the death penalty on someone who is a menace and a serious danger to society is the right thing to do.

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      brittvan22 5 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

      Its very unfortunate, but in our society a very common thing in our unjust justice system. They are handing out death sentences more than vouchers. Thanks for your input!

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      Sherry Hewins 5 years ago from Sierra Foothills, CA

      I agree with everything you said. Our hands are all dirty because the killing is done in our name. That photo just makes me cringe.

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      brittvan22 5 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

      I know and that is ridiculous. They had so many rallies here in Atlanta with the Troy Davis case before and after. I remember driving past one giving them the Jersey fist pump in solidarity as they gave it back and I drove away. I think people sometimes mix up justice with what is right. Just does not always means right.

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      Starmom41 5 years ago

      and the saying "violence breeds violence"- the states in the U.S. with the highest execution rates continue to be the states with the highest murder rates

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      brittvan22 5 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

      And revenge sounds good in theory, but is so destructive. It happens so much in our society it's become norm.

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      Starmom41 5 years ago

      I agree with you- the death penalty is more about revenge than justice.