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Defense Of Marriage Act
Why I'm making this page about the Defense of Marriage Act.
Admittedly, this picture may seem a bit facetious, but I think it makes a point. This great country of ours was founded on Biblical principles, and, as I will show, the Bible sees marriage as between a man and a woman. I'm making this page about the Defense of Marriage Act because, despite Judge Bryant's ruling and that of the Boston federal appeals court and president Obama's statements about repealing the defense of marriage act, and recent Supreme Court rulings notwithstanding, I still hold to the Biblical definition of marriage and believe it is vital to preserve it for posterity. Actually, I made this page (originally) in answer to a Sound-off Lensmaker quest--at least that's what got me started, but as I got into it, it has become a more important Spiritual quest to get the Biblical view out there. Admittedly this is primarily a religious issue, but the politicians have chosen to make it a political issue as well, so I thus include it in the squidquest. The quest instructions say to "...create a lens about a political topic and give folks plenty of space to sound off. Choose one specific topic. Share your views and invite folks to share theirs too. Use duel/debate modules, poll modules, and guestbooks with intriguing questions that inspire conversation....." Thus, after some brief background on the defense of marriage act,I will present my own viewpoint (which I refer to as the Biblical viewpoint) first, but then give you a chance to present yours. Don't let my views stop you. PLEASE DO VOTE IN THE POLLS AND EXPRESS YOUR OPINIONS IN THE (SOUND OFF) DUEL DEBATE sections. Thanks.
DO YOU AGREE?--Pole #1:
Do you agree that our Country was founded on Biblical principles?
Was the United States of America founded upon Biblical principles?
DO YOU AGREE?--Poll #2
Do you agree that the Bible is the authorative Word of God and thus should be our standard?
DO YOU AGREE?--Poll #2
Marriage in the Bible:
In the Bible, in the book of Genesis, we are told that God created man (Adam), and then, seeing that it was not good for man to be alone, took a rib from his side and made a woman. He then blessed them and told them to be fruitful and multiply. From the beginning, it has been man and woman. Throughout the Bible marriage has been thought of as being between a man an a woman. (I expound further on this in the module titled "My (Biblical) view of marriage, but meanwhile, you may want to check out the book below for further information on the subject:
What does the Bible say about sex and marriage?
What is the defense of marriage act?
(info. gleaned from govetrack.com and Wikipedia:
The bill was introduce by republican, Bob Barr on May 7th, 1996 and signed into law by president Clinton onSeptember 21, 1996. Read the complete history from Wikipedia
The following summary is by the Congressional Research Service, a nonpartisan arm of the Library of Congress:
The "Defense of Marriage Act amends the Federal judicial code to provide that no State, territory, or possession of the United States or Indian tribe shall be required to give effect to any marriage between persons of the same sex under the laws of any other such jurisdiction or to any right or claim arising from such relationship. Establishes a Federal definition of: (1) "marriage" as only a legal union between one man and one woman as husband and wife; and (2) "spouse" as only a person of the opposite sex who is a husband or wife."
Check out these related links:
- Wikipedia: The Defense of Marriage Act
A full history of the bill and act. - Defining Marriage: Defense of Marriage Acts and Same-Sex Marriage Laws
Quick facts on key provisions and brief history of the act:
News and views of the Defense of Marriage Act on YouTube:
Further developements on the Defense of Marriage Act: - As of March 27, 2013, gleaned from today's issue of the Miami Herald
This very day the Supreme court is meeting to hear challenges to The Defense of Marriage Act. Here are just a few of the latest shocking developments:
- Last week's Post-ABC poll found that 58% of Americans support gay marriage. This is an all time high and a mirror image of 7 years ago. (Then 58 percent opposed it.)
- A task force from the Republican National Committee stated that "the party's approach to gay rights has damaged it with younger voters."
- Former president Bill Clinton, the original signer of the act, is now calling for it's repeal.
- Republican senator, Rob Portman announced that he now supports for gay marriage, since his son is gay.
- Hillary Clinton announced her support for gay marriage --not really too shocking, but thought I'd list it anyway.
- But this next one is a real shocker: The American Academy of Pediatrics declared that allowing same sex couples to marry with fully adoption and foster care rights is in the best interest of children.
My (Biblical) view of marriage:
Marriage is a divine institution instituted by God. The first 3 chapters of Genesis relate the creation. Chapter 1 verse 27 says "So God created man in His own image, male and female created he them." As some has well said, "God created Adem and Eve, not Adem and Steve." The creation of woman is further defined in Chapter 2 where in verse 18, it says "And the Lord God said, 'it is not good for man to be alone, I will make a helper suitable for him." It goes on to describe the creation of woman. And in verse 24 it says: "Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to hiswife and they shall be one flesh." This is quoted by Jesus in Matt.19:5 in answer to a question about divorce, and he goes on to say the familiar saying often heard at weddings: "what God has joined together let no man put asunder." It is my contention that the word "marriage" means as it always has a union between two people of the opposite sex. Even the dictionary gives the first definition of marriage as " (1) : the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law. " Moderen dictionaries do ad (2) : the state of being united to a person of the same sex ," but then qualify it by adding: "in a relationship like that of a traditional marriagae." This 2nd meaning was unknown in Bible times. To the writers of Hoy scripture, the term "same sex marriage would have been an oximoron. The writer of the book of Hebrews, whom I believe tyo be Paul, says in Chapter 13, verse 4 that "marriage is honorable and the bed undefiled, but fornicators and adulterers God will judge." Paul also wrote Romans, and there in Chapter 1,verses 18-32, he gives a blatent condemnation of the homosexual lifestyle, saying it is a result of unbelief and Godlessness. Thus, when he speaks of marriage in Hebrews 13:4 he could NOT have meant to include "same sex marriage." In fact, homosexuality is one of the things listed in I Corinthians 6:9 that are excluded from God's kingdom and keep people out unless they repent and turn to Jesus for salvation.
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Consequences of repealing the Defense of Marriage Act--?
Something else to think about is what will be the consequences of repealing the Defense of Marriage Act? The act came about at a time in our nation's history when the term "marriage" was beginning to become ambiguous due to the gay rights movement. ( Read the complete history from Wikipedia.) If we repeal the act now, we will allow that ambiguity to continue and thus promote confusion in the next generation as to the real meaning of marriage and the immorality of same sex relationships. God said in Isaiah 5:20: "Woe unto them who call evil good..." That's what a repeal would do. It would "sanctify" and encourage a sinful (even abominable) lifestyle as normal and good. I'm sure you can think of other consequences of repealing the defense of marriage act, but the main consequence would be for God to turn his back even more than He has upon our great country and for our nation to experience His wrath in a greater measure than before.
Can you think of more consequences (on either side)?
Perhaps you can think of more consequences of repealing or of not repealing the Defense of Marriage Act. To be fair, I'm including both sids here, so let's get some duel action going here. List what you think might be consequences of repealing (if you are for the act) OR of not repealing (if you are against the act,) I put the NOT side on the left to conincide with the next duel module,
What will be the consequences of repealing or NOT repealing the Defense of Marriage Act?
Consequences of NOT repealing the Defense of Marriage Act, but leaving the definition of traditonal marriage the same.
Consequences of NOT repealing the Defense of Marriage Act, but leaving the definition of traditonal marriage the same.
I feel that the decision appeal the Defense of Marriage Act will have a very negative affect on future generations in the sense that the powers that be will not stop at this point but will also see to it that anyone with an opposing opinion will be silenced in one way or another. Anytime the desires of a few can overrun the voice of many in a situation such as this, there are huge problems on the horizon.
and I just want to say (keeping in mind I am a christian and a firm believer) that spouting our christian beliefs and bible words and trite phrases about god's holy institutions.. Just points out the religious aspect of keeping it between man and women even more, and convinces those "separation of church and state" people to change it even faster. So figure something else out to say besides some Bible thumping words and phrases they won't listen to anyway.
For those of us who believe that God makes it very clear that marriage is to be between one man and one woman, keeping the law in place reinforces what we already know to be true...God's Word to us through the Bible and sometimes reinforced by the laws of our land provide guidance, wisdom, knowledge and a moral compass.
Consequences of repealing the Defense of Marriage Act and extending the definiton of marriage to inclued same sex.
Repealing it will take religion out of the equation. People will then be able to "marry" whomever, or WHATever, they wish. People already take the religious meaning out of their vows and wedding ceremony and create their own, so that their marriage is not a religious act but simply a celebration of a legal contract of sole commitment they have entered into. I want to note that I believe in marriage being between a man and women, But I see the logic that they will use to do yet another "separation of state and church" by making marriage simply a legal contract between whomever or whatever wishes it, and not a religious act at all.
General Poll - VOTE HERE FIRST, THEN SOUND OFF BELOW
(Vote in this poll first. THEN PLEASE TELL WHY in the duel module below.)
Should we repeal the Defense of Marriage Act?
Now it's your turn to SOUND OFFF: - Should we repeal the Defense of Marriage at?
Well now you know my stance, but don't let that stop you. NOW IT'S YOUR TURN. Feel free to express your own opinion on this volatile issue. I'm expecting a free change of ideas here, as the quest calls for, but please be kind and NO profanity or foul language (your post will be erased or not posted). Thanks.
Should we repeal the Defense of Marriage at?
Yes, we need to broaden the definiton of marriage to include same sex unions.
NO, we need to guard the tradional and Biblical definition of marriage.
I believe pastors and ministers of GOD'S word let down the world. It is the ministers/shepards that are suppose to set the STANDARDS of what is acceptable and unacceptable in GOD'S eyes. They have sat back and let them world set the standards. This is their cross to bear. Whoa to those who cause GOD'S children to turn from HIM.
No DOMA needs to remain in place
Marriage in itself is an idea that comes from the bible, as far as I know? I can't say that I'm totally in the know about every detail of the bible, Im more of a have faith and believe in magic (of the god kind) rather than investigate and rationalize and scientifically explain it all. But if marriage is an idea that came from the bible, and the bible also has these rules that govern define what a marriage is, then if the state wants to make "marriage" legal for everything and anyone, it needs to call it something else, something legal and non-church idea related, that reflects its purpose, which is to make a legal contract between two people to be committed to each other and help each other through life, or however those two people want to define their relationship that they are sealing in a legal contract. But it shouldn't be called marriage. Because marrige is an idea from the bible, along with its strict bible definition. A legal contract between two people to define their relationship with each other should be called something else, and it is, currently. Make civil unions legal in all 50 states, sure, if you have to, but don't call it marriage.
I'm not religious but I think marriage should be between one man and one woman.
No, for the reasons stated in the earlier response.
Too late now! On July 26, 2014, the Supreme court struck it down!
- Supreme Court strikes down Defense of Marriage Act, paves way for gay marriage to resume in Californ
In a pair of landmark decisions, the Supreme Court on Wednesday struck down the 1996 law blocking federal recognition of gay marriage, and it allowed gay marriage to resume in California by declining to decide a separate case. The court invalidated t - Supreme Court strikes down key part of Defense of Marriage Act - The Washington Post
Rulings says law violates rights of same-sex couples
Well, Now It's Done for good and all! Will We Be Better or Worse?
The supreme court has spoken. Today, June 26th, 2015, The supreme court made a further ruling. Now, not only is defense of marriage act is now unconstitutional, but gay marriage is declared legal throughout the whole United States of America. What will be the results for our country? Of course you can guess my position, but let's hear yours.
What do you see as the results of the supreme court decision?
Our country will be better off
Our country will be better off
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Our country will be worse off
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A Poll for conservatives:
Now that this decvisive decision has been made what should or what can we do?
Now that the decision has been made, what should or what can we do?
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Any additonal Comments? - (Same rules as above)
They've opened up a harsh door of judgment that will come down across the land. They've messed with God's children NOW their children will be messed with. GOD'S LAWS SUPERCEDE ALL LAWS.
Marriage does not come from the Bible, nor does the United States of America. The Bible doesn't mention the USA. The Bible does prohibit the eating of pork and shellfish, and commands men to be circumcised. It outlaws tattoos and asset stripping, and commands people to pay taxes, yet all I hear about the Bible in politics is "Adam and Steve", well here's an idea, carry on reading past the first few pages, you might learn something. Galatians 3:28 is just as valid as anything in Leviticus.
Marriage does not come from the Bible, nor does the United States of America. The Bible doesn't mention the USA. The Bible does prohibit the eating of pork and shellfish, and commands men to be circumcised. It outlaws tattoos and asset stripping, and commands people to pay taxes, yet all I hear about the Bible in politics is "Adam and Steve", well here's an idea, carry on reading past the first few pages, you might learn something. Galatians 3:28 is just as valid as anything in Leviticus.
I remember learning about what Rosaquid said as well :)
I always learned in school that the deteriration of the traditional family structure is what brought down the Roman Empire. No one ever mentions that anymore.
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