You have to watch out for the stereotyping and biases of pseudo-scientific types as well. In a book by Matt Ridley, he discusses mating habits of primates by talking about a male "owning a harem of females that he has the rights to" but "this is seen when there is female infidelity in the group..."
Lita, biking like that feels so incredibly good! I'm not doing that now, I love snow but don't want to count on biking through it. When I was in the military, I used to bike the five miles to base to make it for PT (physical training). It got so I didn't want to stop. I'll have to dye my hair if I want anyone to hire me for a physical job now though.
Sorry, off subject, but it brought back great memories.
I have to go here, but I so agree! I was always a runner, but I love biking...at least that distance (it is about right to work) and wouldn't give it up now. Too many benefits. Not much snow where I live--just a lot of frost today in the desert, .
Very true. I like that about one person assuming you've fit the stereotype because of a particular situation when the situation may not have been what they thought at all. No one would believe it didn't prove the point.
I will say, though, that I've seen major differences in boys and girls from very young. Right now I'm looking for recommendations on hubs to read about raising little girls because I'm feeling culture shock with my granddaughter!
Jyoti, I would main that this is still too much of a generalization because, even without questioning any natural leanings/tendencies associated with the different-sex brains; there are two things to consider: 1. Potential of each brand new baby, which is very much associated with nurturing. The "right" nurturing would mean a child's developing brain can overcome "leanings". Ideally, a child would have well developed areas of the brain associated with all skills. One of the reasons there are those exceptions people always mention is that there are variations in nurturing. One can say, "all things being equal" brand new baby boys' brains are more likely to lean in the direction of math-related areas, but all things cannot possibly be equal in nurturing. So, given that nurturing has the potential of "taking a child" in one direction or another (in spite of any natural leanings) those natural leanings don't mean much, with the exception of the fact that if a child is to "overcome" them it would require a specific type of nurturing (either intentional or accidental). Hence, the exceptions and hence, natural leanings don't mean much unless the child is nurtured in a way that encourages development in the same direction as those natural leanings.
Then there are studies done on people like college students or even young students. By the time you have a school full of kids with whatever achievement they have in any particular area, nurturing is long over and done with. There has been a gap between girls' achievement in math, and that gap has now been substantially narrowed (or closed). That shows that nurturing even in years beyond the toddler years makes a difference.
We all know the stereotype of the technical person who is dismally lacking common sense when it comes to day-to-day life. There is a good possibility that the reason such people exist is that their mothers didn't manage to nurture their brain development in a direction beyond just a natural inclination to develop math-related cognitive skills. The role of maternal nurturing includes actually determining how well things like the stress response system and the immune system will function for the rest of a child's life. The point it is is to much of a generalization to go beyond discussing natural leanings in terms of likely development and to instead make statements like, "girls more often do better with fine arts". That extends way beyond the potential/leanings of a new baby without benefit of whatever kind of nurturing it will get; and instead, seems to lean toward looking at existing people, with brains already nurtured and developed, and assuming that is nurturing is less of a variable than it really it is.
With regard to the matter of men and the Olympics, I, personally, have never disputed that one. It's kind of funny to me, though, how in discussions of "which sex is "better" men usually "play the physical strength card." I have no problem whatsoever with acknowledging that boys and girls brains have natural leanings at birth, but, again, it really is too much of a generalization to make statements across-the-board about either sex beyond the leanings of a newborn. Making the statement that "women are generally better in the fine arts" pretty much makes the statement that women cannot be gifted psychologists, MD's who are gifted in the art of diagnosing, social workers, brilliant business executives, or even extremely capable accountants. For that matter, such a general statement seems to completely ignore the kinds of thinking skills required in knowing how to share with an infant the skill of developing reasoning ability and other thinking skills.
Hi Lisa,
I have mentioned earlier that I am partially agree with you and I am still. I do not ignore the nurturing factor. However, I feel that you should consider the physical phenomenon. Human race is developed with both aspects not one.
Some bias people may think otherwise or try to prove supremacy of one gender above one but I am not talking in that direction. Physically and physiologically gender does matter. That's why I quoted Olympic. Though you think it funny, it is the reality.
There are smarter women in Mathematics and accounts and talented men in fine arts. However, majority is opposite. That is natural. I was talking of that nature.
I do not think that my quotes are contradicting you neither yours contradicting or against me. Both are partially true and other side of coin remains always.
Thanks for your valuable additions.
Jyoti Kothari
Hi, Jyoti. (I can't believe this thread is still kicking around, and yet I popped in to see what was "the latest". The only thing I'll add is that I don't think it's funny the men generally have more physical strength than woman. I'm fine with it and have no problem with that reality. What I do think is funny is that when a debate is about intelligence, men are usually the ones to make sure they play that physical-strength card. In any discussions I've ever seen about "who's smarter", it has (if I recall correctly) always been a guy who strays from the real matter being discussed and plays that "physical-strength card". I've never seen a woman stray away from such a debate and reasoning and pull out the "women-are-generally-prettyier-and-more-graceful card". I think I'll put that one out the next time cognitive abilities are being debated. (Hope you understand this is all intended as good-natured teasing.)
I have a new theory!
1. Gay women- because they know everything and they think men are stupid.
2. Straight women- they know almost everything and they think men are stupid
3. Gay men- because they admire and want to be women and they think straight men are all neandrathals
4. Straight men- are at the bottom because they don't care.
I can find statistics to prove:
Women are smarter than men,
Men are smarter than women, and
hermaphrodites are smarter than men or women.
Instead of trying to prove generalizations, lets try to improve our individual intelligence.
It is not to prove or disprove but the general discussion gives a lot of insight about physical, mental. intellectual and emotional strength and weakness of both men and women.
Thanks,
Jyoti Kothari
by MarieLB 8 years ago
Do you know someone who is smarter than you are, and how do you feel about that person?EG:- You find yourself saying things like "She thinks she knows everything". In your head you hear the corollary "She DOES know everything and that is why she is so annoying."
by Dattaraj 9 years ago
I have read some articles that suggest Atheists are generally smarter than Theists. Someone shared a link in an Indian Facebook group and Atheists were like; "Theists are dumber because their minds are occupied with fear all the time, and they can't concentrate on studies......." These...
by Michael Valencia 11 years ago
Is it better to be attractive with average intelligence, or intelligent with average looks?
by nightwork4 13 years ago
Is intelligence really needed to be a doctor?what I mean is that to be a doctor , people need to be smart in school. wouldn't an average person be able to do the job just as well as long as they have a good memory?
by kdawson 7 years ago
Do smart people scare you?Do you think "average" people are frightened by "intelligent" people. I don't consider myself that intelligent, but apparently come across that way and it seems to put some people off.
by Maurice Wisdom Bishop 12 years ago
Are women smarter than men or men smarter than women?
Copyright © 2024 The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers on this website. HubPages® is a registered trademark of The Arena Platform, Inc. Other product and company names shown may be trademarks of their respective owners. The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers to this website may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website.
Copyright © 2024 Maven Media Brands, LLC and respective owners.
As a user in the EEA, your approval is needed on a few things. To provide a better website experience, hubpages.com uses cookies (and other similar technologies) and may collect, process, and share personal data. Please choose which areas of our service you consent to our doing so.
For more information on managing or withdrawing consents and how we handle data, visit our Privacy Policy at: https://corp.maven.io/privacy-policy
Show DetailsNecessary | |
---|---|
HubPages Device ID | This is used to identify particular browsers or devices when the access the service, and is used for security reasons. |
Login | This is necessary to sign in to the HubPages Service. |
Google Recaptcha | This is used to prevent bots and spam. (Privacy Policy) |
Akismet | This is used to detect comment spam. (Privacy Policy) |
HubPages Google Analytics | This is used to provide data on traffic to our website, all personally identifyable data is anonymized. (Privacy Policy) |
HubPages Traffic Pixel | This is used to collect data on traffic to articles and other pages on our site. Unless you are signed in to a HubPages account, all personally identifiable information is anonymized. |
Amazon Web Services | This is a cloud services platform that we used to host our service. (Privacy Policy) |
Cloudflare | This is a cloud CDN service that we use to efficiently deliver files required for our service to operate such as javascript, cascading style sheets, images, and videos. (Privacy Policy) |
Google Hosted Libraries | Javascript software libraries such as jQuery are loaded at endpoints on the googleapis.com or gstatic.com domains, for performance and efficiency reasons. (Privacy Policy) |
Features | |
---|---|
Google Custom Search | This is feature allows you to search the site. (Privacy Policy) |
Google Maps | Some articles have Google Maps embedded in them. (Privacy Policy) |
Google Charts | This is used to display charts and graphs on articles and the author center. (Privacy Policy) |
Google AdSense Host API | This service allows you to sign up for or associate a Google AdSense account with HubPages, so that you can earn money from ads on your articles. No data is shared unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy) |
Google YouTube | Some articles have YouTube videos embedded in them. (Privacy Policy) |
Vimeo | Some articles have Vimeo videos embedded in them. (Privacy Policy) |
Paypal | This is used for a registered author who enrolls in the HubPages Earnings program and requests to be paid via PayPal. No data is shared with Paypal unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy) |
Facebook Login | You can use this to streamline signing up for, or signing in to your Hubpages account. No data is shared with Facebook unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy) |
Maven | This supports the Maven widget and search functionality. (Privacy Policy) |
Marketing | |
---|---|
Google AdSense | This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy) |
Google DoubleClick | Google provides ad serving technology and runs an ad network. (Privacy Policy) |
Index Exchange | This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy) |
Sovrn | This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy) |
Facebook Ads | This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy) |
Amazon Unified Ad Marketplace | This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy) |
AppNexus | This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy) |
Openx | This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy) |
Rubicon Project | This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy) |
TripleLift | This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy) |
Say Media | We partner with Say Media to deliver ad campaigns on our sites. (Privacy Policy) |
Remarketing Pixels | We may use remarketing pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to advertise the HubPages Service to people that have visited our sites. |
Conversion Tracking Pixels | We may use conversion tracking pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to identify when an advertisement has successfully resulted in the desired action, such as signing up for the HubPages Service or publishing an article on the HubPages Service. |
Statistics | |
---|---|
Author Google Analytics | This is used to provide traffic data and reports to the authors of articles on the HubPages Service. (Privacy Policy) |
Comscore | ComScore is a media measurement and analytics company providing marketing data and analytics to enterprises, media and advertising agencies, and publishers. Non-consent will result in ComScore only processing obfuscated personal data. (Privacy Policy) |
Amazon Tracking Pixel | Some articles display amazon products as part of the Amazon Affiliate program, this pixel provides traffic statistics for those products (Privacy Policy) |
Clicksco | This is a data management platform studying reader behavior (Privacy Policy) |