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Adam & Eve's First Children

Updated on August 22, 2019
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Sometimes writers distance themselves from religious subjects. Religion is still taboo to speak about. Read about it instead.

A teacher of religion asked his class a question. He drew the letter 'V' on the blackboard and said to the class:

"Make this into a four."

After some discussion, the class decided that the 'V' was a Roman numeral five (5) and told the teacher to write 'IV' to make it four (4).

"Make this," said the teacher drawing an 'X' or ten (10) on the blackboard, "Into a nine (9)."

Then followed the students to write 'IX' the Roman numeral for nine (9) on the board.

"Now, make it into a six (6)," said the teacher referring to the 'IX' on the board.

After much meditation, one student suggested putting more 'I's' before the 'IX' but the teacher simply walked to the board saying:

"How about we put an 'S' in front of the 'IX to make it SIX (6)?

Steven R Covey refers to a paradigm shift or shift of perspective in his famous self-help book entitled The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People. Instead of looking at a situation the same way without getting the desired results, look at it from a different vantage to see if that will help.

Because the students in the class could not think outside of the perspective from which the teacher started with, Roman numerals, they did not consider using another way to view reaching their goal to make 'IX' into "SIX."

Inevitably among the faithful people of religions, Jew, Christian, Muslim and others is little agreement about what the text of the Bible does NOT reveal regarding the first children of Adam. Because the record lists in Genesis the first murderer and the first victim of murder, many assume that those two men, Cain and Abel, were also the first children of Adam and Eve also. It is a logical assumption too if no regard is paid to reason.

Since there is no evidence in the scientific community as of yet supporting Adam and Eve as the first humans or Cain and Able as the first children, anything is conjecture. However, plausible conjecture, conjecture based within reason provides a point to relate to the first family.

Adam and Eve's Children

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First Assumption

To assume something without proper consideration is to make an ASS out of U and ME. Clever wordplay, but true nonetheless. This article makes the assumption that the Bible does not contain every book or word written by all prophets since Adam, especially since books quoted by authors in the Bible are not included in the modern version of the Bible. Many people worship the Bible!

Somehow, because the Bible is the word of God, it has morphed over the centuries into this object of affection and reverence that represents God! People swear on the Bible as if by so doing it will prevent them from lying. It is simply a book. It does not contain all the word of God. It contains what God wants His believers in it to know, and that's all. Remember, there existed no modern Bible for Jesus, His apostles, or early Christians. The New Testament was not written until after the resurrection. Moving on!

Second Assumption - Shots in the Dark

With a baboon is how it happened! After Cain murdered Abel, he went off and mated with a baboon and began the human race with a primate! That is how it had to happen.

Maybe Abel was Gay, which is why Cain became so angry to murder him when he made some advance towards him, his brother! There was no one else, right? Abel had to the first homosexual male, right?

When there is limited access to information, people form the strangest of ideas to keep their faith in the veracity of the creation saga. It is only human to attempt an explanation of the foundational core of humanity believed by billions of people. As strange and imaginative as the two examples are above, people believe!

Placing limitations on what is canon and correct also opens up the accepted canon to uninspired hole filling to placate the inquisitive. In the Information age, there is no room for the teaching: believe it and accept it without question. Those days ended when the average person utilized his or her ability to send an email.

Logic dictates that there were other people besides those who came from Adam and Eve living outside of Eden's Garden, in the larger land of Eden. That assumption, however, does not support Adam and Eve being the first humans. It is easier on the mind to call the creation story a myth created to add meaning to human existence to give people purpose.

Another option is Cain and Abel were two among many siblings in existence at the time. There is no place in Scripture that suggests otherwise. Why not assume other humans existed prior to Cain and Able and with Cain and Able?

Truth Revealed

No more assumptions, Adam and Eve had other children. Nowhere in the commonly accepted canon is there an indication that Cain and Abel were the first children. Nowhere in the canon is there indications that other children did not exist. Logic and modern scripture attest that other people lived in great numbers by the time the famous Cain and Abel came about.

Lost to the Bible is a book revealed as the words of Moses clarifying the creation, among others, teaching. Is it plausible that God revealed to a modern prophet what was missing from the Bible He preserved for the spiritual consumption of His children? Yes! That is what happened. According to the Book of Moses, canon recognized comparable to the Holy Bible in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints:

Adam knew his wife, and she bare unto him sons and daughters, and they began to multiply and to replenish the earth. And from that time forth, the sons and daughters of Adam began to divide two and two in the land, and to till the land, and to tend flocks, and they also begat sons and daughters. 1

Satan deceived the children of the first couple with the same lying notions with which he deceived Eve during her immortal life in Eden's Garden. Like their mother, the first children tended to believe Satan. But unlike Mother Eve, they loved him, his lies!

The words of Korihor, another extra-Biblical person and ancient anti-Christ apply to the first group of apostate humans. Korihor was a man on a mission to destroy the faith of an ancient culture of dispersed Israelites living in America. Failing in his design, he said to his audience before his demise:

The devil hath deceived me; for he appeared unto me in the form of an angel, and said unto me: Go and reclaim this people, for they have all gone astray after an unknown God. And he said unto me: There is no God; yea, and he taught me that which I should say. And I have taught his words; and I taught them because they were pleasing unto the carnal mind; and I taught them, even until I had much success, insomuch that I verily believed that they were true; and for this cause I withstood the truth, even until I have brought this great curse upon me. 2

Korihor lost his voice and eventually his life as a curse. The curse that was upon the first children was losing their souls, never to be brought in to the presence of God in the flesh. How it must have pained Adam and Eve to watch their children chose choices they knew were bad for their children. Heaven and God were the equivalents of tasting salt while the children of the first couple were never introduced to the taste of salt. How could they describe salt to their children?

Adam and Eve could not explain well enough to their children what it was like to live in paradise and be in the presence of God to keep their first group of children from listening to Satan. As sad as it is to say, the first brood of children seemed to be inquisitive like Eve, willing to entertain the ideas of the Fallen One, Lucifer.

Strait and Narrow Path, or Satan's Path? Choose!

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Conclusion

Logic dictates that in order for the things billions of people believe about Adam and Eve to be true, other people besides Cain and Able existed after their parents' expulsion from the Eden Garden. Faith does not require rational thought, but true faith does not contradict reason. Just as the teacher in the class described in the opening of this article informed his students to change IX into SIX by adding an 'S,' if some consideration that God is not limited by human understanding, knowledge that Adam and Eve had other children before their murderous one committed fratricide is at LEAST a possibility, right?

Supporting Sources

Pearl of Great Price - Book of Moses 5:2-3 1

The Book of Mormon: Another Testament of Jesus Christ - Alma 30:53 2

© 2019 Rodric Anthony

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    • Rodric29 profile imageAUTHOR

      Rodric Anthony 

      23 months ago from Surprise, Arizona

      Being good does not mean there is an absence of those emotions. God has perfectly tune and refined emotions. He gets angry. He gets jealous. He takes out vengence and has a wrath. It is all how you perceive it. If you equate God to a human in like the Greeks and Romans did their gods, then God would not be a just god. He might as well be a devil.

      Because God knows the eternal destiny of all people, His wrath is never without an end that will bring utter happiness to those who receives it. As a Saint, I believe all people, well the majority of people will end up in heaven. I also believe there are many mansions in God's kingdom for those who follow Christ with all their hearts to inherit until they possess all the Christ does, which is all the God possesses.

      In God's wrath, some people will possess very little in heaven. A small few will possess nothing but darkness with Satan. God judges the heart as well as the actions of people. In mortal humans, being Jealous, Vengeful, or Wrathful are flawed in that they are based on a limited perspective. God's perspective takes in the whole soul and therefore makes Him the perfect judge with perfectly just reactions to behavior.

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      Jay C OBrien 

      23 months ago from Houston, TX USA

      So do we agree that God does not change? That God is Good and always good? That any story depicting God as Jealous, Vengeful, or Wrathful is Blaspheme?

    • Rodric29 profile imageAUTHOR

      Rodric Anthony 

      23 months ago from Surprise, Arizona

      Jay, your perspective is an interesting one. Once as a youth, a friend of mine told me not to worship God because He tried to flood humanity out of existence. He said to worship Christ alone. That did not sit well with me.

      I will reiterate:

      I do not claim to know all the answers, but I trust that God has not changed from the way He was in the times before the advent of Christ. We learned more about Him. As we study the Scriptures with purpose and resolution, God will reveal Himself directly to us.

      The books, the Bible is one way that we connect with Him by seeing how others connected. From the Bible, we learn that God appears and will speak to people. He answers prayers. We can directly approach Him with our doubts and questions or theories to discover if they are true.

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      Jay C OBrien 

      23 months ago from Houston, TX USA

      Because you believe God is not some angry entity ... as He is portrayed, and God does not change, and you believe in the God of Jesus, we must leave the OT stories of God behind. You cannot put old wine into new wine skins because they will burst.

      I believe the ancient writers wrote what they saw, but misidentified a man to be The Lord. The man fought, killed, made and defended a nation, but The Lord was a Man, not God. The man was a feudal lord, a warlord. That would completely explain the OT without changing a word. Jesus tried to tell us this.

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      Rodric Anthony 

      23 months ago from Surprise, Arizona

      Jay, I do believe in the old testament God since I also believe Jesus is the Old Testament God a.k.a. Jehovah. Reading that record, God is not some angry entity who destroys at the blink of an eye as He is portrayed. God does not change. He is the same as He was then and will be now, and henceforth.

      I assert, it is the translations of the scriptures that make it seem to some that He is harsh and only to those who do not understand the Plan of Salvation that God has for humanity. What I mean by that is: there is more to God’s plan for humanity than for us to worship him as mindless automatons. I believe God is the Father of the spirits of all men and women. As our Father, that makes us siblings. What may seem harsh to a child at the time can in later moments show as mercy because of the knowledge that God gives. The New Testament if limited in its approach to the gospel. There is only one generation of information, for one. The Old Testament has multiple instances that people can take out of context when reading a verse here or there—a story here or there.

      I do not claim to know all the answers, but I trust that God has not changed from the way He was in the times before the advent of Christ. We learned more about Him. As we study the Scriptures with purpose and resolution, God will reveal Himself directly to us.

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      Jay C OBrien 

      23 months ago from Houston, TX USA

      I did not understand your answer. Some of the Old Testament stories come from the older Babylonian civilization.

      "Without Adam, there is no need for Jesus." Why? What is the connection?

      Do you believe in The Lord as described in the Old Testament (OT)?

    • Rodric29 profile imageAUTHOR

      Rodric Anthony 

      23 months ago from Surprise, Arizona

      Jay, thank you for reading and posting. If the only information that you have is the bits and pieces from the Old Testament as it stands today, I can see how you can view it that way. It is not a metaphor, but a reality. Without Adam, there is no need for Jesus. Is that metaphor?

      Adam and Eve were not taken from the Babylonians or the Egyptians as some claim. The reason these other cultures have a story about Adam and Eve in any degree is because they are bastardized due to apostasy. Read other views of mine on this subject.

      Do you believe in God? Is He someone you can communicate with? Is God simply a regional deity in your mind even today? These are all intriguing takes.

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      Jay C OBrien 

      23 months ago from Houston, TX USA

      The story of Adam and Eve and most of Genesis was taken from the Babylonians. I take it as metaphorical. More importantly, The Lord of the Old Testament acted like a human: a Warlord, a Feudal Lord, a Landlord. He did all the things a Warlord would do: He formed a nation, defended it and killed for it. These are not the actions of an ideal god, but a human. A person was deified.

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      Rodric Anthony 

      2 years ago from Surprise, Arizona

      Eric, your diplomatic sentiment is gracious, to say the least. The debate of how others came to be after Adam and Eve has caused many to doubt the scriptures. I am glad that would at least consider what I wrote has merit enough to contemplate, even if you disagree in the end. It shows an openness to revelation that is sadly lacking in many faithful people. Once we have our beliefs we leave no room for God to add more knowledge to increase our understanding, including me.

      I was reading Mathew 8 today and came across stories about the Scribe looking to follow Christ and the herd of swine the devils were sent to possess. I had an idea of what was acceptable and not acceptable, and what Christ did in those situations cause me to pause. I am going to write about it today.

      I needed a revelation to understand those stories. I had to be open to something different because my practical mind does not accept very much.

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      Eric Dierker 

      2 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Quite an interesting concept. I don't really figure this way but helpful for us all to contemplate. This seems to suggest a timing. Hmmm.

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