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All Spiritualism Comes from the same God. If you think your God is not that God -- think about that.

Updated on March 3, 2013

A Desert sunrise brings dread, but we can rise above it. Better yet we can make benefit from it.

This place reaches 120 degrees. I have seen the egg boil on the blacktop, I have hiked 20 miles in a day in this furnace of hell. But this valley grows over a quarter of the worlds produce. Wow. Half Mexico and half US.
This place reaches 120 degrees. I have seen the egg boil on the blacktop, I have hiked 20 miles in a day in this furnace of hell. But this valley grows over a quarter of the worlds produce. Wow. Half Mexico and half US. | Source

I have great hope for the Spirit of Mankind

What is so cool is the morning sun rising. What is truly awesome is that same sun setting. If you are not on that gravy train, what train are you on? In my little itty bitty world each person is deemed perfect until proven otherwise. So if we have conflict, first let it rest on my shoulders, and then theirs. Let me at least stand tall and proud enough to see if we have conflict. I think that most likely we do not.

Holistic Spiritualism

Just assume for a moment that all religions worshipped the same God. I do not mean by that, that they view their God as the same, Just that God is the same. The beginning concept is perceivable. The hard part you may think is in the logic or rationale, you would be wrong. You may think that the hard part would be in the attributes of God, again you would be wrong. You may think the hard part would be in the origins of the belief of different folks, and again you would be wrong.

The beginning of living with and studying and respect for different cultures is to accept the other, respect the other and then look for commonality. In the commonality is the biggest problem.

Go ahead and climb it

This is one of those frustrating hills, they just make you so made with the obstacles, you have to climb it.
This is one of those frustrating hills, they just make you so made with the obstacles, you have to climb it. | Source

How different are you? Enough to make war?

If a Buddhist says “I am meditating and praying”, a Muslim says “I am praying and bowing toward Mecca” if a monk says he is doing his daily chants, and if a Sister says “I am doing my daily repetitive prayers”, all the others would argue that they were wrong. Why must we defend our space “against another”. Sometimes folks are idiots.

It is not the God that creates differences it is the traditions of man. The differences are miniscule and de minimums. Most of us nowadays either believe in one God or none at all. Some groups have lesser gods. Most enlightened Christians see in scripture that we are all of his image, and that the Christ showed us we all have the power to create miracles. Our defensive positions are foolish and not loving.

I suppose that part of what people do to advertise themselves, their service or their product is to distinguish themselves from others. And it stands to reason that religious doctrine demands the parishioners proclaim that they are different. And defend their differences to death.

Please come on now and tell me; is there a difference between Gregorian Latin Chants and Sanskrit Monk chants sung in Tibet. Well if you can declare that – you know two “dead” languages and exactly what they mean. And if you do know them and declare them different, you seriously need to go back to school for a long time. I have studied them long and hard and find only language as a difference. The Love and adoration of God is Global and likewise His love of us is equal.

Take it easy on me, I run a Liturgy straight of the Catholic Church

Now onto Catholics. Catholic is capitalized because it is the proper name of a church. The word has been co-opted and that is fine. The best translation of the word catholic is “the world church” or the “universal church”. It is highly centric to Christ, but in fact up through the Council of Nicaea (the Nicene Creed) it included Agnosticism and Jew. That would be around 360 AD.

Sometimes I just truly bust down on my knees and thank Jesus. I mean sometimes I just do it because he taught love, love and more love. And I thank him for one of my Spirit Guides named Geronimo, whose exact tracks I have followed. And then I thank him for Buddha, wow! What a great man. Of course I dearly thank him for Mahatma Gandhi and the Dali Lama. Make no doubt that I thank Him, yet I am still confused over Mohamed and Karl Marx.

None of those above are a God and the stories and mysteries we have with lesser gods, make sense because aren’t all of us little gods.

I have two adoptive type sons. Not in any legal sense. Just young men who are in California to make their way from Bombay(Mumbai) and Saigon (Ho Chi Minh City) They are very good young men who do not believe in Christ. I pray for them every night and I am confident that God hears my prayers and watches over them. It is irrelevant that they are Buddhist and Hindi. My God is their God and their God is my God.

Let me break it down real simple. My God is Love. If your God is Love, all the languages and doctrines of this world cannot separate you from my Lord. And if another shall love me, then that other worships the same God. It is even rational to believe that, that Love in our hearts is the only true Love and if we share it --- well then God is Love and Love is God.

If you behave and come to my church and hear my sermon, you may ask your self: who is this man that believes and preaches that God is in each of us and God makes himself known. God is Love and we are Love so we are of God.

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      Niteriter 4 years ago from Canada

      This seems to be a protest against the divisions that splinter humankind. All of humanity is reaching out toward a hoped-for Source of All, a Creator, an Infinite Entirety. And maybe not in vain: many profess to have reached out; many claim to have received a response. If a collective reaching out is what we are doing, we will all have done a better job of it when we stop clubbing each other over the names we use for That which we reach toward.

      If that is your meaning, I join you in your protest.

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      Eric Dierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      What God is, is the Love that connects us all. There is a reaching that seems infinite but which must mostly be a reaching into the within.

      If it it is true, cojito ergo sum, then it is equally true that I Love therefore I am part of.

      I protest most certainly. I am mad as hell that man tries to seperate me from other men and women. God is not about chains, God is the lack thereof. Let Freedom of Love rein!!

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      Mr. Happy 4 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      "Our defensive positions are foolish and not loving." - Yes. Very well said! When we get defensive, we also get divisive ... unproductive, in my opinion.

      "Make no doubt that I thank Him, yet I am still confused over Mohamed and Karl Marx." - Haha!! Love your honesty here. Marx and Mohamed had much to teach, in my opinion. I studied between other things, history and Islamic traditions in university. : )

      "God is Love and we are Love so we are of God" - How easily You explained things ... Thank You!

      I am confident we will soon come to understand and accept each others' minute differences. If we keep Love as a basis of our actions and the spring of our thoughts then, I think the differences we have in traditions, customs, even physical differences become almost irrelevant (in the grand scheme of things lol).

      Well, great article. I appreciate your work!

      Cheers.

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      Eric Dierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Thanks Mr. Happy. Is there a way I could fanagle that great handle?

      As to the article, it is just confounding that people play the mine is better than yours game with something so fundamentally obvious.

      And don't even go to mine is bigger than your ;-)

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      Paul Swendson 4 years ago

      I am ex-an Catholic turned ex-evangelical Christian turned current Unitarian Universalist. But like you, I am not a big fan of religious labels. For me, the only thing that matters is how a person's religious beliefs impact his or her behavior. For if beliefs have no positive impact on behavior, they are just a bunch of words.

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      Eric Dierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Thanks Freeway Flyer. You know what I can add to what you commented? Nothing. Right on!

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      HattieMattieMae 4 years ago from Limburg, Netherlands

      Yes I totally agree with you Eric, I just have had the experience myself with legalistic Christians in my area that tell me I'm going to hell, and a sinner for believing just what you do. I think this is the point Love is the main message of Christianity and if you can't talk the talk and walk the walk I just don't listen. I have been in forums in here too. lol Now this is the point you are making. We are the ones making it so complicated. We are the ones choosing to war against one another. It's a crazy world we live in, and one day when we die, I guess God tell all the people that had to be right all the time....Well while you were down there you were wrong thinking you always had to be right. lol

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      Eric Dierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Thanks Hattie, Our Church is very bible based. The other day while teaching the youth in our church I asked the question: "what have I preached at you every Sunday?" The most wonderful gift I got in return was a spontaneous hearty yell back. "LOVE"!!! I hope what I got accross here is that the liturgy in the world does not change that.

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      hecate-horus 4 years ago from Rowland Woods

      YES. I think we waste too much energy and time debating on who is the better God, who is right and who is wrong. If we could all agree that God is Love, wow...imagine the walls that would come down.

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      Eric Dierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Just imagine if people could realize the huge energy of Love. And that Love always connects never seperates.

      Thanks for visiting and the comment.

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      Darrell Roberts 4 years ago

      Nice hub, I wish more people would share your views.

      Best wishes.

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      HattieMattieMae 4 years ago from Limburg, Netherlands

      Good to see that Eric. Very good that you have the right message!

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      Eric Dierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Be good and love the one you are with!

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      Eric Dierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      One by one we share the love and one by one they share it with others.

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      G. Diane Nelson Trotter 4 years ago from Fontana

      Hi Eric, I have a question, with no disrespect. How do we know that God is love and we are love?

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      Eric Dierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Pretty straight forward answer, you feel the Love. You feel yours and you feel God's. Many things we know because we feel them. What you feel may be the truest thing you know. You could probably know it you believe in the bible and did not have any love.

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      G. Diane Nelson Trotter 4 years ago from Fontana

      Is this true even for atheists? Why do Islamists want to kill the infidel as directed in the Koran?

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      Eric Dierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Diametrotter thank you for your inquiries, I really like them.It is true for Atheists. They are just more comfortable explaining the Love phenom as electric and chemical. And miracles as perfectly explainable occurences without God.

      Islamists that want to kill are just that, Islamists that want to kill. I am sure I can find passages in the Bible that direct killing. And I am equally sure that no matter the text, the Book or the religion, if it is viewed through Love and interpreted in Love that violence will be unnecessary.

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      G. Diane Nelson Trotter 4 years ago from Fontana

      I can see that you have thought a lot about this. Each of us has our own thoughts. If all of us are right then there is no wrong. I mean that in the most general sense. If I say red is green, then it is green. If you say red is blue, then it is blue, etc. There doesn't seem to be a foundation that provides guidance.

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      Eric Dierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Absolutely right! In the physical. But Love is in the Spiritual. I could no more be right or convince anyone in the physical about an existance of God or Love. But let me slow them down enough to stop and accept someone elses Love for them and proof is irrelevant, they feel it. Now then they can call that anything they like and it won't change the Love one bit. Therefor anything against love is wrong and anything in love is right.

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      G. Diane Nelson Trotter 4 years ago from Fontana

      I don't want to take this to a weird place but there are parents who "love" their children yet they rape them. Jerry Sandusky "loved" all the boys he molested.

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      Eric Dierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      We should all shake our heads at such nonsense. I have never read a definition of love that included sexual violence. The Sandusky's in the world are sick. While we can take anomolies to help explain a point, we do not use them to describe the norm. Just like the Islamists that want to kill. But there is a general rule, Love is wonderful, if something is not wonderful then it is not done in Love.

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      G. Diane Nelson Trotter 4 years ago from Fontana

      It seems there are a lot of cases where teachers are going with their students. They claim to be in love. One teacher had a baby by her 13 year old student, went to prison, got out and was caught in the back of a car with him. She went back to jail and got out. They had another child and then got married. I am a teacher and can't understand how teachers get involved with their student but this happens more often than one would like to think. They say it is love. What is the basis for saying it is not love.

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      Eric Dierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Students with their teachers, is actually a wonderful example to show what Love is in the flesh. I had a teacher love and she loved me in Highschool. She was quite young right out of college. She loved me so much that she never ever was alone with me. We never ever went anywhere near the subject. Years later in our thirties, her's late and mine early, we picked up our enjoyment of each other and she told me of the above feelings. She was wonderful, and I was glad to be there for her daughter and her when she passed of cancer.

      That is Love. Not some sorted wrongful sex lust that destroys any chance at all of deeper meaning.

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      G. Diane Nelson Trotter 4 years ago from Fontana

      That is your personal experience. This does sound like an anomaly!

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      Eric Dierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Oh I think not. I think many young men fall in love with teachers, real love. And what is not to like about a 18 year old, six foot, athletic young man who likes to read shakespeare and is courteous and polite? I would suggest that is no anomoly at all. Newspapers and the press make a living off of dramatic eyebrow raising events, that does not make them common.

      But it is very common for young men to have a crush and even love for a young highschool teacher.

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      Mr. Happy 4 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      It doesn't sound like an anomaly to me. I would like to add that Loving someone or something does not have to have a sexual connotation to it. It is easy for me to say so because I practice and have been practicing abstinence and celibacy for over a decade now. I have learned to Love in Truth and without conditions.

      I enjoyed your conversation (and sorry to have bust-in out of nowhere like I just did).

      Cheers!

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      Eric Dierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Mr. Happy, if you are ever not welcome where I am, I am leaving.

      I certainly hope people do not confuse our illgotten term "making love" as really referring to Love. Most assuredly after a healthy Love is established, love making can be a wonderous part of the Love. But otherwise it is just sex.

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      G. Diane Nelson Trotter 4 years ago from Fontana

      Sandusky never talked about making love. Family abusers rarely talk about making love. They say they "love" their victims. Sandusky did say he loved the boys. I'm just trying to make the point that all of us are not love. Maybe if you give me your definition of love, my thoughts will focus in.

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      Eric Dierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      A definition of a word I can do. A definition of a feeling I can not. Certainly my defintion would be as Paul's in 1 Corinthians :

      "4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

      8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away.

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      G. Diane Nelson Trotter 4 years ago from Fontana

      This is a good explanation for those of us who believe the Bible. Verse 6 assumes that the reader is in agreement with the whole Bible. Paul, formerly Saul, use to persecute and kill Christians. He had a conversion on the road to Damascus. Non-Bible believers differ on what is truth and often what is evil.

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      G. Diane Nelson Trotter 4 years ago from Fontana

      Eric thank you for letting me discuss this with you. I appreciate the way you let me probe.

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      Eric Dierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      No, no I thank you for probing. We are but an empty gong if we sound off without inquiry and Love. Diane you are beautiful and I for one Love you.

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      G. Diane Nelson Trotter 4 years ago from Fontana

      Aw! Thank you Eric! Let's keep going!

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      Eric Dierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Sit back and love something, do not get up, do not move. Just sit there and think of all the love you have for something - I do not care what! Now you want to get up. Do not. Breathe deep and think some more about that love. Now, turn it on yourself. Don't get up, just love yourself. Do it some more. You are Love and you are perfect, and are worthy and you are loved.

      It sounds so strange and it is so counterintuitive. But it puts a smile on your face and then someone elses. Now there is no sense in describing or defining love, ya'll just know it. Do not even get me started on puppy dogs, babies and flowers or a mama's kiss on a skinned knee.

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      Kerry43 4 years ago

      I enjoyed reading this hub, Ericdierker, thank you.

      Kerry:)

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