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Amen, End of Prayer or Egyptian God ?

Updated on May 25, 2015
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We have studied the Scriptures independently for over 20 years, including the writings in the original languages of Hebrew and Greek.

Amen, the Egyptian Creator God
Amen, the Egyptian Creator God
The Hebrew names of the Father and of the Son.
The Hebrew names of the Father and of the Son. | Source

Amen?

We would like to take the time to mention about a word that we feel is wrong to use, as the bible tells us not to use the names of pagan gods.

Exodus 23:13 And in all that I have said unto you be circumspect: and make no mention of the name of other gods, neither let it be heard out of thy mouth.

When the scriptures were translated, first into Greek, then into Latin, and from there into English, the translators have changed the name of the Almighty Yehowah, to the name LORD, and changed the name of the Messiah, his son, from Yehowshuwa, to the incorrect name of Jesus Christ. For more information on this, click the following link: Yehowah and Yehowshuwa, the True Bible Names in Hebrew They also added the name Amen, so that people unknowingly end up worshiping a false God.

Here is how Yehowshuwa the Messiah told us how to pray to his Father Yehowah.

Luke 11:2 And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth. Give us day by day our daily bread. And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil.

Matthew 6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. [ his name is Yehowah] Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. (Amen?)

In Matthew, they added the word Amen to the end. The word Amen in my opinion should not be added to the end of any prayer, because this is a name of an Egyptian god, meaning 'the hidden'.

This deity of Egypt is mentioned in Nahum 3:8 as populous of No. And in Jeremiah 46:25 as mutitude of No. In the Strong's Concordance in Hebrew #527 as amown populous and multitude. And #528 Amown an Egyptian god, originally the local god of Thebes, later head of the Egyptian pantheon.

Torah

In the Torah, which is the first five books of the Old Testament or Tanakh, the word Amen appears 14 times each at the end of curses nowhere else. Numbers 5:22, Deuteronomy 27:15-26)

It was never used at an end of a prayer, this tradition is brought about in the Rabbinical Jewish Talmud, which also prohibits the people from using the true name of the Almighty Yehowah YHWH, and told to substitute it with the word adonay instead and then the people are told to use the word Amen at the end of a prayer. Which is what most Christian churches also do, and the Muslims and most of the secret societies.

According to the Encyclopedia of Judaism, Amen was never used in the First Temple era. It was during and after the Second Temple era that it became part of their Liturgy.
By adding this word to the end of a prayer it would sound like you are praying to and invoking the Egyptian deity Amen. Also known as Amen-Ra. Which means Amen the sun god.

Remember we are to use the true names, and no other, Yehowah the Father, and Yehowshuwa for his son.

The three Obelisks

Obelisk in Vatican City
Obelisk in Vatican City
Obelisk in Washington D.C.
Obelisk in Washington D.C.
Obelisk in London City
Obelisk in London City

Obelisk

Another thing I would like to mention is the Obelisk, which is where the sun god Amen-Ra is claimed to reside. He was worshiped as the creator god in Egypt. They claimed that he actually resides in the Obelisk so therefore the places that have an obelisk are worshiping the sun god Amen.
There are three city states in the world that are like a sovereign city within Country, or State. And each of these three cities have an Obelisk.


1. Vatican, 2. Washington DC., 3. City Center of London.

Here we have the Roman Catholic, the Protestant, and the Anglican, all three appear to be worshiping the god Amen. Why else would they have these Obelisks. The one in London coming all the way from Egypt.

All these religions end there prayers with Amen. Also Secret Societies, when saying their ritual prayers, they too end it with Amen.
This appears to me to be the reason for omitting the true name of the Almighty Yehowah and adding to the bible the false name Amen, and you may notice that it is always with a capitol A in the KJV, thus making this word a proper noun, like a name. Also notice that this is one of the few words that has not been translated, but has been transliterated. It is also the most known word in the World.
Also worthy of note is that the Jews, the Christians, and the Muslims end their prayers, with the word Amen.

They are all worshiping a false God, the highest angel, the Devil.

Satan, the master deceiver, has been out to deceive all people. Satan was also the highest angel, so he is very clever. He would deceive the very elect if it were possible.

I, YEHOWAH thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness that in heaven above, or that in the earth beneath, or that in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I, YEHOWAH, thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments. (Exodus 20:2)

Joshua (Yehowshuwa) 24:14 KJV Now therefore fear YEHOWAH, and serve him in sincerity and in truth: and put away the gods which your fathers served on the other side of the flood, and in Egypt; and serve ye YEHOWAH.

Sun Worship in Christianity

Theban triad, Amen, Mut, and Khonsu
Theban triad, Amen, Mut, and Khonsu
Obelisk standing in Karnak Thebes today
Obelisk standing in Karnak Thebes today
Obelisk standing in Heliopolis
Obelisk standing in Heliopolis
Obelisk at the Vatican is a sundial to track their god Amen the Sun god. This obelisk is from Heliopolis. The city of the sun.
Obelisk at the Vatican is a sundial to track their god Amen the Sun god. This obelisk is from Heliopolis. The city of the sun.
New statue erected in Luxor. Amenhotep lll and his wife. An Egyptian Pharaoh who's title means Amen is satisfied.
New statue erected in Luxor. Amenhotep lll and his wife. An Egyptian Pharaoh who's title means Amen is satisfied.

The Cult of Amen

In Egypt there was a major cult that worshiped the Sun god Amen, also called Amen-ra. The largest cult of Amen was the city of Thebes now called Luxor, Amen was also identified with the Ram.
The cult of Amen consisted of three Egyptian gods, Amen, Mut and their son Khonsu. Also known as the Theban Triad. This cult of Thebes was mentioned in the bible in Jeremiah.

YEHOWAH of hosts, the God of Israel, saith ; Behold, I will punish the multitude of No, and Pharaoh, and Egypt, with their gods, and their kings; even Pharaoh, and all them that trust in him: (Jeremiah 46:25)

The "multitude of No" means the "cult of Amen of Thebes".

Ezekiel 30:14 And I will make Pathros desolate , and will set fire in Zoan, and will execute judgments in No. And I will pour my fury upon Sin, the strength of Egypt; and I will cut off the multitude of No. And I will set fire in Egypt: Sin shall have great pain , and No shall be rent asunder , and Noph shall have distresses daily. The young men of Aven and of Pibeseth shall fall by the sword: and these cities shall go into captivity. At Tehaphnehes also the day shall be darkened , when I shall break there the yokes of Egypt: and the pomp of her strength shall cease in her: as for her, a cloud shall cover her, and her daughters shall go into captivity. Thus will I execute judgments in Egypt: and they shall know that I am YEHOWAH.

The second largest cult of Amen was in Heliopolis, a Greek word which means "City of the Sun". Heliopolis was the center for sunworship. It was located northwest of the city now called Cairo. This place was called "Aven and On" in the King James bible in the following verses:

And Pharaoh called Joseph's name Zaphnathpaaneah; and he gave him to wife Asenath the daughter of Potipherah priest of On. And Joseph went out over all the land of Egypt. (Genesis 41:45)

The young men of Aven and of Pibeseth shall fall by the sword: and these cities shall go into captivity.. (Ezekiel 30:17)

The high places also of Aven, the sin of Israel, shall be destroyed : the thorn and the thistle shall come up on their altars; and they shall say to the mountains, Cover us; and to the hills, Fall on us.(Hosea 10:8)

I will break also the bar of Damascus, and cut off the inhabitant from the plain of Aven, and him that holdeth the sceptre from the house of Eden * : and the people of Syria shall go into captivity unto Kir, saith YEHOWAH. (Amos 1:5)

And mentioned as "Bethshemesh" hebrew for "House of the Sun"

He shall break also the images of Bethshemesh, that is in the land of Egypt; and the houses of the gods of the Egyptians shall he burn with fire. (Jeremiah 43:13)

Heliopolis is where the obelisk at St. Peter's square originally came from. It was built by the Pharaoh Mencares in 1835 BC in honor of the sun, it was brought to Rome in 37 BC by the Emperor Caligula and erected in the circus he built. And in 1586 Sixtus V had it moved to the center of St. Peter's Square. The obelisk is a sun worship idol were their god Amen resides, coming from the "city of the Sun"
The Catholic religion is the same as the religion of the Cult of Amen. Sun worship.

The true name of the messiah is Yehowshuwa, (יְהוֹשׁוּע) before the Messiah returned to his Father Yehowah in heaven, he warned his disiples that they would be persecuted for his name's sake.

And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved . (Matthew 10:22)

And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake : but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved . (Mark 13:13)

But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake. (Luke 21:12)

And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake (Luke 21:17)

But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me. (John 15:21)

So many of the true followers of Yehowshuwa were persecuted and killed, and by the time Constantine came into power, (who himself worshipped the Sun, Sol Invictus), the true name of the Messiah Yehowshuwa, was replaced with the false name Iesous Christos, also known as Amen. This is why prayers end with the word Amen, it is a continuation of the cult of Amen. Constantine continued the sun worship religion of the cult of Amen, that in 321 AD he put into law that all shops and businesses close on the venerable day of the sun, Sunday. And in 325 AD they incorporated the falseTrinity doctrine to facilitate the Amen's cult need of the three Egyptian gods in one. Amen, Khonsu and Mut . Father and Son and Mary (holy ghost), that is why the Catholic church worship and venerate Mary and even call her Queen of Heaven a pagan title mentioned in the bible. Pope Francis himself calls Mary his Mother. 'Mut' means 'Mother'. That would make Pope Francis the high priest of the cult of Amen.

The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger (Jeremiah 7:18 )

The Greeks compared Amen with Zeus and was named Ammon-Zeus. Alexander the Great later wanted to be known as son of Ammon-Zeus. Heliopolis is now modern day Cairo/Chi-Rho. Constantine also employed the Chi-Rho along with the cross as his sign or banner, claiming that Christ told him use it. The Chi-Rho was also a symbol on coins with the head of Ammon-Zeus by Ptolemy III Euergetes (r. 246–222 BC).
The Catholic religion is built on the Egyptian doctrine of Amen and the Mystery of the Trinty. The very name Christian comes from the false name Jesus Christ, therefore all Christian Churches are false. They have incorporated the trinity doctrine, which is not scriptual, and made Jesus Christ God. The first commandment states:

And God spake all these words, saying , I am YEHOWAH thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me. (Exodus 20:1-3)

And I heard another voice from heaven, saying , Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.(Revelation 18:4)

The head of Ammon-Zeus, Greek equivalent for Amen-Ra (246-222 BCE)
The head of Ammon-Zeus, Greek equivalent for Amen-Ra (246-222 BCE)
The Chi-Rho symbol between legs, the symbol used by Christianity today. (246-222 BCE)
The Chi-Rho symbol between legs, the symbol used by Christianity today. (246-222 BCE)

The Gnostic Church

It is said that Gnosticism is a term given to a philosophical movement that flourished between 2nd century BCE to the 4th century CE. It is the Gnostic that tried to incorporate Greek philosphy into the gospels, changing and pulling away the gospel from its Judaism roots.
The Gnostic church has its roots in Egypt, they claim that the initiate has to learn the sacrements which they call the sacred Amens.
I would like to point out that the Gnostic's who also call themselves Christian, believe and invoke the Egyptian god Amen-ra. They claim that the three Hebrew letters א Aleph, מ Mem, and נ Nun represent Father (Aleph), Mother or Holy spirit (Mem), and Son (nun)

They call this the Trinity or the Cosmic Christ, the Gnostic Church themselves claim that "Amen-Ra or Osiris-Ra is precisely what we invoke when we want to bring down that cosmic force, when we perform the Sacred-Amens, the Sacr-Aments, the Sacraments.... That is why in ancient Egypt when somebody was assimilating these cosmic forces of Amen-Ra, of Osiris-Ra, they will call him or her an Osirified one. In this day and age we call them a Christified one, utilizing the Greek word Christ"
The Gnostic Christian knows full well that they worship Amen-Ra the Egyptian god.

The word Amen has been intentionally added to the bible by the Greek philosophers and they also changed the Greek word Messias to Christ. It is an intentional corruption of the gospels.
That is why when the orthodox church baptizes someone they also add the word Amen after each person of the trinity, as Father Amen and Son Amen and Holy Spirit Amen. It is the same as Gnosticism. Christianity is that old Egyptian religion of Amen-ra.

In the Catholic Catechism it states:
1064 - Thus the Creed's final "Amen" repeats and confirms its first words: "I believe." To believe is to say "Amen" to God's words, promises and commandments; to entrust oneself completely to him who is the "Amen" of infinite love and perfect faithfulness. The Christian's everyday life will then be the "Amen" to the "I believe" of our baptismal profession of faith:

So here again the use of Amen is understood by the initiates of the mysteries, but the true meaning is hidden to the ordinary person, but if one reads carefully it states that a person is "to entrust oneself completely to him who is the Amen" They want you to worship Amen the Pagan Egyptian God.

The fact is that there were many coptic Christians who had their monasteries in Luxor both on the East side of the River Nile and at Thebes on the West Bank which had a very large population of Coptic Christians in antiquity. They even had a Holy See established at Thebes before the Council of Nicaea in 325 AD. They inhabited and rebuilt temples dedicated to Amen-Ra.

The scriptures says repeatedly that we are to worship Yehowah, YHWH our Creator. And the Messiah Yehowshuwa said the greatest commandment is to love Yehowah with all our heart mind and soul. The bible also states that we are not to have the name of false gods coming out of our mouths.

This is why we have to seek the truth on our own because Satan has set a snare of lies. He is a liar and murderer from the beginning.

We've been lied to.

One thing to understand is that we have been lied to. We know that the bible states that Satan the Devil is the father of lies. So a prudent bible believer should be on the lookout for the lies that Satan will have us believe.

It is folly to believe everything we are told. You will not find the truth from any preacher or pastor in any Christian church because they can't tell you the truth. They have to speak according to the Nicene Creed, they cannot speak differently, if they do they will be replaced.

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Seek the Truth

There are many people who did not know some of this information and have used this word unknowingly as to what it really means. But that is what mind control and brainwashing is, it is to have people saying and doing things without realizing what they are saying or doing. That is why a person has to seek for the truth themselves. Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at ; but now commandeth all men every where to repent.

The truth does not come from any Christian Church, because they have to follow a set of false doctrines. The main one being the false name Jesus Christ. The bible tells us repeatedly that there are many false prophets, false prophets are those who lead you to worship a false god. Satan is in control of this world, he tempted Yehowshuwa the Messiah with all the riches and kingdoms of this world, claiming it was his and that he can give it to whomever he wants (Luke 4:6). In return he wanted Yehowshuwa to bow down and worship him. Yehowshuwa's answer to the Devil was this.

Luke 4:8 And Yehowshuwa answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written , Thou shalt worship YEHOWAH, thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

Revelation 12:9
And the great dragon was cast out , that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

It is quite clear that Satan, the Devil is out to deceive everyone and those who love not the truth will believe a delusion and a lie (2 Thessalonians 2:11).

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      ro-jo-yo 10 months ago

      To Johim

      Your last comments are being deleted because they are of no value. These articles are written to help others who are sincerely looking for the truth on their own. You on the other hand repeat the same false rhetoric as all the other false preachers do.

      You can take it or leave it.

      You can continue to serve Baal whom you call Jesus Kristus or you can serve Almighty Yehowah according to the doctrine brought to us by his son Yehowshuwa.

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      ro-jo-yo 10 months ago

      Malachi 1:6 A son honoureth father, and a servant his master: if then I a father, where mine honour? and if I a master, where my fear? saith YEHOWAH of hosts unto you, O priests, that despise my name. And ye say, Wherein have we despised thy name?

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      Johim 10 months ago

      "believeth in him" = Believe in his Son

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      ro-jo-yo 10 months ago

      To Johim

      You are incorrect, it is you who is teaching another gospel. The scriptures states clearly that we are to worship the Father whose name is Yehowah and that he sent his Son whose name is Yehowshuwa.

      John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

      The above verse tells us clearly that the Father, who is God, sent his Son the Messiah.

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      Johim 10 months ago

      " the love of the truth" Yes. But you are teasing another Gospel then Paul.

      AND

      There are not 2 names. Only one name. That is the name of the messias.

      WHY

      Because God became flesh and came down to us. You can look it up in the old testament. :)

      AND

      I call him Jesus Kristus.

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      ro-jo-yo 10 months ago

      To Johim

      The will of the Father is that we are to believe the Son. And the Son stated that he came in his Father's name

      John 5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

      You do not believe Yehowshuwa who said he came in his Father's name. You instead believe in a false Greek name Iesous/Jesus and you also believe there is no problem in using the name of a Egyptian God even though we are commanded by Yehowah not to have names of false gods coming out of our mouths

      Exodus 23:13 And in all that I have said unto you be circumspect: and make no mention of the name of other gods, neither let it be heard out of thy mouth.

      You have to love the truth or you'll be sent strong delusion.

      2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

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      Johim 10 months ago

      About the scripteres you repeat all the time.

      Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

      22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied .

      in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

      23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity

      They work iniquity because they TRUST in there own works. That is why The LORD dosent now them.

      Job 25:4 - How then can man be justified with God? or how can he be clean that is born of a woman?

      That is a good Q

      Here is what poul says:

      Rom 4:5  But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

      Just like Abraham. Gen 15:6 And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.

      About verse 21 : What is the will of the Father.

      Joh_6:39  And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.

      Joh_6:40  And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

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      Johim 10 months ago

      I meant there is NO problem using amen, I just forgot the No, in the hurry.

      Grace and Gods godness is what saves, dont let the evil one steal your faith. That is his goal. To steal the good seed that God has put into your heart.

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      ro-jo-yo 11 months ago

      To Johim

      First you say there is a problem with saying amen then you say it is not wrong. You are contradicting yourself

      The correct way to read Hebrews 13:8 in English is as follows:

      Hebrews 13:8 Yehowshuwa the Messiah the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

      Yehowshuwa came in his Father's name Yehowah. Jesus/Iesous is a false Greek name.

      You and many others would rather continue in the false name claiming the name has done many wonderful works, but as you see can see in the following verse, you will be told to depart because you're a worker of iniquity.

      Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

      22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

      23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity

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      Johim 11 months ago

      To Bree

      I like your comment. :)

      To everybody else. There is problem to use amen. But be aware that there are people that, when they use Amen, they mean Amun_Ra.

      The apostles used amen in the bible and I use it. It is not wrong.

      all that believe in Gods salvation in the Messiah Jesus Christ. Read heb 13:8 and 9 -

      Heb 13:8  Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

      Heb 13:9  Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines. For it is a good thing that the heart be established with grace;

      If you mean "so be it" when you say amen. So be it.

      Johim

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      ro-jo-yo 21 months ago

      Yehowshuwa is the true name of the Messiah, he is not here on Earth, he is with his Father Yehowah who is in Heaven. When Yehowshuwa came here to Earth he was born of a woman, he had brothers and sisters and Mary was the wife of Yehowsheph (Josheph). So Yehowah's son Yehowshuwa is not illigitemate here on earth or anywhere for that matter.

      We are told to pray to the Father Yehowah and that whatsoever we ask the Father in Yehowshuwa's name he will give.

      John 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

      John 15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

      John 16:23 And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give you.

      To pray in the false name Jesus, one would be worshipping and asking in a false name.

      Wearing a cross is wrong, it is a sun worship symbol, like an idol. It is also the Mark of the Beast. (The Messiah was impaled on a stake not a cross)

      Matthew 6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

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      londale 21 months ago

      Is God's Son on earth illigitemate? Was Mary a Holy Spirit / the Holy Ghost? Are we to pray in Jesus name? Is wearing a cross wrong?

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      ro-jo-yo 2 years ago

      To Johnc962

      Don't understand your comment.

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      Johnc962 2 years ago

      The principle isn't to artificially turn out to be effective, dfegkdbeeced

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      Pete 3 years ago

      Check your Strongs Concordance, both yahweh and jehovah are names of pagan gods from Egypt. If you use a modern Strongs you will NOT get the true Hebrew to English and vv, translation. Try esword if you don't have an older book to check from. They both translate to: jah/jeh/yeh/yah=god and hovah/hava/havah/weh= falling, iniquity, covetousness, ruin and mischief H1943. Put the words together what do you have ? Also keep on mind the letter J didn't exist until approximately the 16th century. In fact these two names can be found in a book called the "witches gods", this is a book people who are studibg to become witches use to do so. This book explains that those two names are of ancient Egyptian origin and translated names of their gods(fallen angels).

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      Pete 3 years ago

      The first thing you all have to understand is that the religion of modern Christians does NOT represent what actually written the bible. There is NO pope, NO Christian or Jew sunday worship and NO baptism without full submersion. GODs name is NOT yahweh or jehovah as GOD tells Moses what his name is in exodus 3:13-15. GOD also says that is his name forever among all generations. How can you be more clear than that ?

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      joshua 3 years ago

      I guess a person knows truth through experience..how can you know something when you haven't experienced anything from what you believe...its one thing to have a opinion about something but if you don't have anything to support what you say makes it false and of course a false doctorine....yea grammer is messed up your right and I accept that...

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      ro-jo-yo 3 years ago

      Your bad grammar and intentional misspelled words are a cover for your push of the false names Jesus and Christ. The true name of the Messiah is Yehowshuwa, and the true name of his Father is Yehowah.

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      joshua 3 years ago

      Forgot to say...first dream say christianity is right faith....could that make one think there's many faiths but which one is right.....dobt wabt to offend anyone I really do take in consideration other thoughts in other faiths..I don't and will not judge anyone...but thanks for letting me give my testimony..

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      joshua 3 years ago

      I'm a christian that believe every word that comes out the bible...I been reading a lot of ancient stuff and see a lot of similarities...I'm just puzzled...what I believe works for me ...little about me to show why I believe in bible but is puzzled now....5 years ago I got caught up and wirshiping other gods seen it to work....cans moving without people forcing it to move...like I was seeing results but my life felt like a living hell...I wss caught up with the stuff I'm doing now researching history and I was quick to tell whoever what they believe was wrong...in the mist if it all I hsd a dream and someone said christianity is the right faith your a false prophet.. well I converted to christianity and accepted jesus then that's when I realky felt the power of god...didn't know what was going on but check this out..there's a scripture in bible....joshua 1:8..read it.....I pobdered and my heart loved god...second dream...saId 1 corinthians...didn't know that book was in bible checked it out was telking me how to live..I tried to do everything the bible said to the t..that same voice would tell me wgat other people thought of me...this where it git good...I was a cheerfull giver....I would give to someone and I know I wouldn't get it back....peopke was doing me dirty.....had a dream a year ago that voice said sow your seeds your going to get it all back..couple nonths later I recieved my increase a job making more money I ever made...glory be to god...things were good for bit but now I done backslided now it seems like things are not so good..I still hear a voice every once in a while when I'm searching for it...recently the voice been telking me if a sickness but its kinda crazy for me to think I'm getting healed without living right...now I'm looking at history once again trying to deniunce what I believe....I'm confused now kinda crazy..confusion comes before destruction same thing that happen to the egyptians....but my point is jesus is real god is real..the faith is real

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      mike 85 3 years ago

      Thank you mr ro jo yo.

      Since I haven't decide on the name of god. I was going to just simply pray to the creator of the heavens and earth and his son. At least this way there is no chance that I say the wrong name.

      Im glad that statement was false. never had I heard separate. Ill make sure that I comment that false doctrine on that site.

      Thank you again for your wisdom.

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      ro-jo-yo 3 years ago

      To Mike

      I deleted your last comment, it is a pure garbage. You are not going to get the truth out of a Jesuit run university who is preaching a false doctrine.

      2 Timothy 4:3

      For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

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      mike 85 3 years ago

      Revelation chapter 22 verse 10

      And he said to me, Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book for the time is near. They did seal up (removed) enoch and other book were removed as well.

      Revelations chapter 22 verse 18 and 19

      I testify to everyone who hears the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, god shall add to him the plagues which are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of prophecy, god shall take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book.

      THEY DID BOTH!!!!!! THEY TOOK AWAY THE REAL NAME AND ADDED ANOTHER!!!! THEY TOOK SOME OF THE BOOKS OUT!!!!!!! HELLO WAKE UP!!!!!

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      ro-jo-yo 3 years ago

      To Bree

      To share your perspective is one thing, but to change the names is another, and is not good.

      Deuteronomy 11:13 And it shall come to pass, if ye shall hearken diligently unto my commandments which I command you this day, to love Yehowah your God, and to serve him with all your heart and with all your soul.

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      Bree 3 years ago

      Well, debating is pointless, but I will correct you by saying I am not trying to do anything other than share my perspective. For it is written to trust in the Lord with ALL THINE HEART and lean not to thy own understanding, but acknowledge Him and He will direct your paths. Confusion is from Satan, people coming up with different so called truths, when at the end of the day it is only their truth. So believe what you want...whatever you feel you "figured out", but as for me, I will trust in the Lord.

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      ro-jo-yo 3 years ago

      To Bree

      I do not agree with your comment at all, what you are trying to do is push the wrong name of the Messiah. The true name is Yehowshuwa.

      Jesus and Yeshua are false names and if you continue to use these false names you will be told "depart from me. ye that work iniquity"

      Matthew 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

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      Bree 3 years ago

      You are absolutely right...the truth rest in one's heart. Our Heavenly Father knows our heart. I agree with you that Jesus is the english translation of Yeshua; however that does not mean He does not recognize His name just because it is called in a different tongue. I have an aunt named Brandi. When I was a child, I couldn't not pronounce "Brandi", so I called her " Banni". She received me with open arms and always answered to "Banni". As an adult, I know her name is Brandi, but she still answers to "aunt Banni". She takes no offense because " Banni" is my truth...the name I grew to know and live her by. I acknowledge her true name, but she will not damn me to hell if I don't call her Brandi. God is God...I Am...Alpha and Omega. So because there are many tongues, He has many names. But the amen thing, now that has always been questionable... Lol. I don't use it...

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      ro-jo-yo 3 years ago

      To Bree

      Most people were taught the name of the Messiah is Jesus, although the name is incorrect the Almighty Yehowah knows if one's heart is sincere or not. But when one finds out the truth then we are commanded to repent

      Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at ; but now commandeth all men every where to repent.

      Once a person knows that the true name of the Messiah is Yehowshuwa, then I would suggest that a person use the correct name only.

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      Face pow 3 years ago

      It's amazing how much you wrote

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      Bree 3 years ago

      Jesus... That is the name I called when I was in a desolate place. I called the name Jesus, when I was being attacked by the enemy. He saved me, and this is the only reason I am alive today.

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      mike 85 3 years ago

      city of charlotte,nc puts 250 pounds of chlorine everyday. which is poison the people with your science (chlorine). Also im a plumber I know exactly what they do. Look up where Chlorine came from. you will find it comes from toxic waste. there supposed to pay to dispose of. (instead SELL TOXIC WASTE TO EVERY CITY save money cut corners and depopulate all at the same time. IF THEY DUMPED IT INTO A RIVER ALL THE ANIMALS WILL DIE THATS AROUND IT AND ALL THE PLANTS. chlorine is proven not to clean the water it does nothing to clean. this is why your dogs rather drink from a toilet instead of tap water. toilets have a good filtration system. SO WHY DO WE STILL PUT IT IN OUR WATER???? I WILL TELL U........BECAUSE WE ARE THE RECYCLE CENTER OUR BODYS. Also fluoride calcifies the pineal gland ing your dream center this is why its says Your young men will see visions, and your old men will dream dreams. English Standard Version “'And in the last days it shall be, God declares. Death to science.. Why hasn't the monkeys changed into humans or broken out of the zoo ohh that's rights evolution I a false theory. not a fact. no proof. WE have proof giants existed which means the bible tells the truth. IF you don't like it go marry a monkey and wait for it to evolve into a human.

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      ro-jo-yo 3 years ago

      To agentofchange

      Wow are you really mixed up!

      There are many who claim the moon landing was a hoax, and filmed in a studio.

      Religion does not fly planes, people fly them.

      Science in not winning anything other than being the leader in pollution, poison, and war and all the rest of the science disasters such as Fukushima radiation, oil spills, GMO, chemtrails and the rest of the list which is very lengthy.

      The true doctrine of the Almighty Yehowah is not a myth.

      Science and myths are brought to you by the fallen angels and taught to people in the education systems, which are all controlled by the Jesuits.

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      agentofchange 3 years ago

      Science put man on the moon, religion flies planes into buildings. Every time it's science vs religion, science wins. If all was destroyed and had to be rediscovered, the laws of science would be the same, but religions would be different because they are based on myths.

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      kabugo patrick 3 years ago

      the truth is only to renew our minds,delete idol names ie jesus,(HE IS THE GREEK GOD ,DANIEL 8;21)jehovah,yahweh, false titles ie GOD,god, (god is just a creature romans 1;24-25 and aisa 65;11 god of luck)LORD,Lord,christ for MASHIACH,angel for MASSANGER,Heaven for ABOVE /SKY,(heaven comes from haven aplace of wrongness hosea;10;8 .amen god of fortune.THIS IS HOW lucifer DEFIED THE PRINCE OF STARS DANIEL 8;11 ) Spirit for POWER (EZEKIEL 8;1) SO lucifer destroyed the place of worship(SON OF THE CREATOR BSE HE IS THE TEMPE WHERE YEHOWAH DWELLS REVN 19;13 so by changing the name he entered the house of the MOST HIGH CREATOR and he called him self the CREATOR DANIEL 8;11)

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      mike 85 3 years ago

      to ro ho yo

      thanks for the link I checked some of it out. still haven't decided. best to keep an open mind.

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      mike85 3 years ago

      also every barcode has the mark of the beast 666 or 999

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      mike 85 3 years ago

      GENERATION X, XMEN IN CARS,NEWS PEPERS Xtra sunday,XFACTOR etc,to fullfill the scripture in revolution 13;17,.SO IF DO NOT HAVE THE MARK (T) OR THE NAME(jesus) or the number(X) u will be persecuted .worshing the beast is in many ways like trusting in the use of its knowledge(TECH-KNOWLOGY) (T) EVERY T Its for the beast ie (CHRIST) CENTINAY BANK(t) is always high lighted.....

      every time u get paid u are getting paid by the mark of the beast look at your money a pentagram on the all seeing eye. connect the dots spells out masons. there are masonic lodge masons in every city. also I have proof that they worship the devil. But, they will lie and say they don't.

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      ro-jo-yo 3 years ago

      To Henry

      We have to seek the truth, and those who seek will find. Those who do not seek the truth will believe a delusion and a lie.

      Jeremiah 16:21 Therefore, behold, I will this once cause them to know, I will cause them to know mine hand and my might; and they shall know that my name is YEHOWAH.

      Isaiah 52:6 Therefore my people shall know my name:

      Ezekiel 36:23 And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am YEHOWAH, saith the Lord YEHOWAH, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.

      Ezekiel 39:7 So will I make my holy name known in the midst of my people Israel; and I will not pollute my holy name any more: and the heathen shall know that I am YEHOWAH, the Holy One in Israel.

      Zephaniah 3:9 For then will I turn to the people a pure language, that they may all call upon the name of YEHOWAH, to serve him with one consent.

      The two witnesses should show up pretty soon and let everyone know the true name.

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      Henry 3 years ago

      What really is my concern is that despite the fact, as you are trying to show that we are using the wrong name of God and others, still God is still showing his power and mercy, saving people, people are turning to the Almighty God who came to him with sincere heart, even with the "wrong' name.

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      ro-jo-yo 3 years ago

      To wow

      Joel 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of YEHOWAH shall be delivered:

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      wow 3 years ago

      we are screwed and knowledge will not even help.

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      kabugo patrick 3 years ago

      dear ro-jo-yo. thanks. truely lucifer exaluted him self by changing so many things from the scriptures.i,e CREATOR (romans 1;25) TO GOD ASA(65;11) YEHOSHUAH(JER,23;6) TO jesus who is talked about in revn 13 and 2thesso 2.pole/steak to cross to cut story short THE BEAST IS JESUS,THE IMAGE OF THE BEAST IS HIM IN ANY IMAGINARY FORM be it in so called movies,paintings or carves.THE MARK IS HIS CROSS ,thats why its used every where i.e hospitals red cross its asign of angel of death,and its so common among artists.AND THE NUMBER IS THE LETTER (X) (CH) (CH-RO)IN GREEK(CHRIST) no wonder there is so much use of X eg GENERATION X, XMEN IN CARS,NEWS PEPERS Xtra sunday,XFACTOR etc,to fullfill the scripture in revolution 13;17,.SO IF DO NOT HAVE THE MARK (T) OR THE NAME(jesus) or the number(X) u will be persecuted .worshing the beast is in many ways like trusting in the use of its knowledge(TECH-KNOWLOGY) (T) EVERY T Its for the beast ie (CHRIST) CENTINAY BANK(t) is always high lighted.

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      ro-jo-yo 3 years ago

      To Mike and Butterflywings

      I have deleted some of your statements as they are of no use.

      This hub is about encouraging people to seek the truth for themselves, and not to be deceived by Satan's lies.

      Both of you are entitled to believe what you see fit.

      If either of you think you have found a truth, then go and write your own opinions on your own hub where you will have ample space to do so.

      There is not enough room in the comment space for me to answer such RUDE unproductive comments.

      No one in the past 5 years has been as arrogant as you both have been.

      2 Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

      Thank you and have a good day

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      ro-jo-yo 3 years ago

      To Mike for the last time

      The Torah was written in Hebrew!

      As for Amen Ra go take a tour in Egypt!

      here is the link http://www.touregypt.net/amen.htm go argue with them!

      You have made more than you share of comments, and any more comments of this nature from you will be deleted!

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      ro-jo-yo 3 years ago

      To mike 85

      Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Messiahs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

      Mark 13:22 For false Messiahs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if possible, even the elect.

      Revelation 12:12 Therefore rejoice, heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

      Revelation 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

      Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

      Jeremiah 29:13 And ye shall seek me, and find , when ye shall search for me with all your heart.

      Luke 11:9 And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you. For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

      As for verification, I have already told you, you will have to look at the Hebrew writing.

      Salvation is of the Jews (Yehowdiym).

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      mike85 3 years ago

      all this stuff just makes me want to turn my back on everything and just not believe in anything. which isn't good. with that being said I really need whole hard facts. Everybody says its spell this way or that way. but no real evidence that it's spelled the way I spell it or you spell it mr. ro ho hub.... my Ryrie study bible spells it Yahweh. the only thing that is the same is YHWH that's it. everything else is contradicted by others back and forth. I am 28 and have just learned 7 months ago about jesus not being his real name. All of this is a big shock. so like I said there is about 3 different spelling of the same words. and all 3 put each other down and discredit one another. so how do u really know which one is right. If any are right?

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      butterflywings1 3 years ago

      Hi Mike I was looking for the truth and became Christian, but then some things didn't add up.

      I did alot of research, and think that the Christian religion has come from earlier ideas.

      The OT calender was changed along the way because it wasn't accurate. Would the almighty make an inaccurate calender in the first place?

      The one we use now was Moonday(Monday), Tyrs day, Woden(Godens) day, Thors day, Friggas day, Saturns day, Sun's day.

      They used the names of popular dieties to try to keep everyone happy. Saturns day was for the Jews. Sunday was for Christians. Jesus is a solar diety, if I am not mistaken.

      The Persians crucified Egyptians for their sun cult. The Egyptians had anointed ones kings(Pharoahs) and priests.

      Jesus was a king and priest the NT tells us.

      He is known as the anointed one(Christ).

      The AMN just has different spelling Amen etc

      The NT tells us that Jesus is the Amen.

      That makes him just the same as Amen Ra(sun god)

      Amen Jesus.

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      mike 85 3 years ago

      maybe we are both wrong. but I would like to get to the bottom of it cause I want to worship and say the right things and to preach the right things when I witness to others. don't you?. cause my heart is there in the right place. Lets help each other. I have found things that contradict both of us. and there is a lot of deceitful people but im not one hope ur not ethier.

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      mike 85 3 years ago

      Syncretism is defined as "the combination of different forms of belief or practice" (Webster's). The word syncretism does not appear in the KJV, but the subject of syncretism is certainly addressed (and condemned) in the Scriptures. From a Biblical perspective, syncretism is the blending together of Yahweh worship with pagan worship.

      A perfect example of syncretism is the worship of the Samaritans. When the Samaritan woman asked Yeshua a question about the difference between the worship of the Jews and Samaritans, He responded with this: "Ye worship ye know not what. We know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews" (Jn. 4:22).

      This forthright statement probably sounds arrogant and ethnocentric in today's politically correct world, especially given the fact that the Samaritans believed in the same God the Jews worshipped. What was wrong with the worship of the Samaritans? To answer this question, we have to go to 2 Kings 17 and read about the origin of the Samaritans.

      King David and King Solomon both ruled over a united, twelve-tribe monarchy. After the death of Solomon, the ten northern tribes seceded from the southern tribes of Judah and Benjamin, and made Samaria their capital. The ten northern tribes sinned greatly against the Lord. Their punishment was exile: Then the king of Assyria came up throughout all the land, and went up to Samaria, and beseiged it three years. In the ninth year of Hoshea, the king of Assyria took Samaria, and carried Israel [the ten tribes] away into Assyria, and placed them in Halah and in Habor by the river of Gozan, and in the cities of the Medes... So was Israel carried away out of their own land to Assyria unto this day"(2Ki. 17:5f, 23).

      After the Israelites were carried away, the king of Assyria populated Israel's land with pagans from other territories: "And the king of Assyria brought men from Babylon, and from Cuthah, and from Ava, and from Hamath, and from Sepharvaim, and placed them in the cities of Samaria instead of the children of Israel: and they possessed Samaria, and dwelt in the cities thereof (2 Ki. 17:24).

      These were the people who later became known as the Samaritans. The rest of the chapter describes the development of the Samaritans' syncretistic worship. Soon after these people first settled in Israel's land,

      Yahweh sent lions among them "because they feared not Yahweh" (vs. 25). The Samaritans told the king of Assyria that they did not know how the God of this land wanted to be worshipped. So the king sent an Israelite priest to "teach them the manner of the God of the land," and this priest "taught them how they should fear Yahweh" (vs. 27f). The Samaritans then began to worship Yahweh. However, they mixed their worship of Yahweh with the worship of their old pagan gods: "They feared Yahweh, and served their own gods, after the manner of the nations whom they carried away from thence... So these nations feared Yahweh, and served their graven images, both their children, and their children's children: as did their fathers, so do they unto this day" (vs. 33 & 41).

      Yahweh had made it clear in Deuteronomy chapter 12 that He does not want worship which is patterned after the worship of pagan gods. Rather, He said, "What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it" (Deut. 12:32). The unnamed priest who instructed the Samaritans apparently neglected to tell the Samaritans that Yahweh rejects syncretistic worship. Or, if the priest did tell them, they chose to ignore those instructions. In either case, the Samaritans ended up with a flawed system of syncretistic worship. They erroneously believed that their system of worship was every bit as legitimate as that of the Jews. When the Jews returned from Babylon to Jerusalem to rebuild the Temple, the Samaritans came to them and said, "Let us build with you: for we seek your God, as ye do; and we do sacrifice unto Him since the days of Esar-haddon king of Assur, which brought us up hither" (Ezra 4:2).

      The Jewish leaders rightly refused this ecumenical proposal, because they knew that the Samaritans' syncretistic worship would end up polluting their own worship. The Samaritans resented being shunned this way, and so opposed and harassed the Jews in their efforts to rebuild Jerusalem. About 500 years later, at the time of the Messiah, the Jews and the Samaritans were still not getting along with each other, which explains why the Samaritan woman was surprised when Yeshua asked her for a drink. "How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? For the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans" (Jn. 4:9).

      It was to this Samaritan woman that Yeshua spoke about the need for true worshippers to worship "in spirit and in truth." "The Father seeketh such to worship Him," Yeshua said, "and they that worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth" (Jn. 4:23f). True worship is a blend of spirit and truth. Syncretistic worship is a blend of paganism and truth.

      The subtle danger of syncretistic worship lies in its claim to be worshipping the true God, Yahweh. When the Israelites brought idols and idolatrous practices into the Temple, they did not think of their actions as an abandonment of Yahweh. They thought of it as just supplementing their worship with customs borrowed from heathen idol worship. Even the golden calf at Mount Sinai was not regarded as a substitute god to replace Yahweh; rather, it was regarded as a symbolic representation of Yahweh. This can be seen in Aaron's reference to the golden calf as the God "which brought thee up out of the land of Egypt" and his proclamation that the worship of the golden calf would be "a feast unto Yahweh" - not a feast to some Egyptian god (Ex. 32:4f).

      Syncretism made its way into the Messianic faith quite early. Certain statements in the Epistles show that it was starting even before the Apostles died. Paul scolded the Galatians for turning back to the weak and beggarly elements which put them in bondage to the observance of times. (And it is clear from the context that Paul was not referring to Yahweh's appointed times, which Paul himself observed. Rather, this observing of times concerned the Galatians' reverting back to their former pagan superstitions about times, much like some Christians today who put stock in their horoscopes.) Syncretism was also occurring among the saints at Colosse. This is obvious from Colossians chapter 2. (Here too it is clear from the context that Paul was not referring to the commandments of God written in the Torah; rather, he was talking about unhealthy bondage to man-made traditions, commandments, and philosophies.)

      We know from history that the Apostles' warnings against syncretism went unheeded by the majority of Church leaders. Pagan customs were adapted and modified for use in Christian worship. Much that exists in Christianity today is nothing more than white-washed, baptized paganism. This is especially obvious in the Roman Catholic Church, which freely admits that many of its extra-Biblical traditions were borrowed from pagan idol worship. Anyone who doubts this can read Catholic Customs and Traditions: A Popular Guide by Greg Dues (Twenty-Third Publications, 2000). This book, written by a Catholic and primarily for Catholics, is a brief but comprehensive overview of the customs of Roman Catholicism. Throughout the book, the author freely admits that many Catholic customs were borrowed from paganism. Some examples:

      • Sunday worship "is an example of how culture and pagan traditions influenced Christian religious traditions. This title [Sun-day] comes from pre-Christian worship of the sun" (pg. 22).

      • The choice of December 25 as the date to celebrate Jesus' birth was an adaptation of the pagans' December 25 celebration of the birthday of their sun god. After Constantine "became the benefactor and protector of Christianity," the writer states, "pagan cultural features of sun-symbolism were no longer threatening. They could be freely absorbed by the church. The church, with its Nativity date of December 25 already in place, did precisel

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      mike 85 3 years ago

      and who are u to judge and condemn me. I could easily say you would throw the first stone. I have simply asked u what is the difference between the two spellings and why? I just want to know to be more educated but u rather put people down then to help them! I run a Christian wedding venue that only does Christian weddings. no muslim, budda, etc. I stand up for my Christian values. I been to many different Christian churches. I work and go to a non domination church. I desire to know the real truth. and to grow close to god...... however how u want to spell it. God know whats in our hearts, mind and soul the devil cant trick God from seeing that. . are you a believer?

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      butterflywings1 3 years ago

      Mike you put that the NT was written in Greek.

      Yes-but the Jehovahs witnesses say that their English bible comes from the hebrew scriptures.

      In their version Jesus is not 'God' he is only 'Gods' son.

      The word 'God' certainly wouldn't have been used in ancient times.

      It is worth looking up the 'God' Goden/Woden.

      Ithink the word 'God' has come from this Goden or is definately related.

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      ro-jo-yo 3 years ago

      To Mike 85

      Talk about a hidden agenda, who are you working for? What you are spewing out are lies and false doctrines. Talk about blasphemy, you say that the name of the Creator is Yahweh? That is the name of a Pagan Samaritan God! You are so fully indoctrinated by the Jesuits. I think if the two witnesses were to appear right now, you would be one of the people set out to kill them.

      John 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do . He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

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      mike 85 3 years ago

      The real name of God is YHWH, the four letters that make up His name found in Exodus 3:14. However, there is no correct pronunciation for the name of God because the letters are only consonents, no vowels. S+o we cannot tell what the "real" name of God is. However, in Exodus 3:13-14 it says, “Then Moses said to God, ‘Behold, I am going to the sons of Israel, and I shall say to them, “The God of your fathers has sent me to you.” Now they may say to me, ‘What is His name?’ What shall I say to them?” 14 And God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM”; and He said, “Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, ‘I AM has sent me to you.’”

      When God says "I AM” he is speaking his name. In the Hebrew language that this verse was written in, the letters are yod, he, vav, he, from which we get YHWH. These four letters were very loosely translated into the English ‘Jehovah.’ However, there is no ‘j’ sound in the Hebrew. So, a better approximation of the name of God would be Yahweh.

      To reiterate, the pronunciation of God’s name is difficult because when they Jews wrote His name in Hebrew scriptures, they did not use vowel designations. They only used consonants. Therefore, the phrase “The name of God is YHWH” would appear as “th nm f gd s yhwh.” This wasn’t a problem with the Hebrews because they knew what the words were and how to pronounce them. It was not until many hundreds of years later that the Jews started to insert what was called ‘vowel points’ into the copied texts of the Hebrew Old Testament.

      But unfortunately for us, we still don't know exactly which vowel sounds are the correct ones.

      Nevertheless, from the text above the proper name of God is "I AM," which we transliterate into the English YHWH

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      mike 85 3 years ago

      A lot of people, including some Messianic Jews (Jews who believe Jesus is the Messiah), will call Jesus by a different name: Yeshua (Hebrew יֵשׁוּעַ). They say that Yeshua is the Jewish name that Jesus would have been called by those who knew him. Some messianics and other groups say that Yeshua is Jesus' real name, and that the name "Jesus" is wrong. Others say it is okay to use either one. But then again, there are those who say that the word "Jesus" is pagan in origin and should not be used at all. And if that weren't enough, some say that "Jesus" is derived from "Zeus" and really means "hail Zeus." With all these possibilities is there a real answer to what was the Messiah's real name? Yes, there is. It is found in the New Testament.

      The New Testament was written in Greek. If there were any original documents of the New Testament written in Hebrew, we don't have them. At best, some theorize that there might have been a gospel or two written in Hebrew. If that is the case, there is no way to know. The fact is we don't have any Hebrew manuscripts. We only have Greek ones from that period of time.

      Since what we do have is the Greek Manuscripts, it is from them that we need to find out what the Apostles wrote about Jesus. In other words, we need to make a case out of what we do have--not what we don't have.

      Doing a computer search in the Greek New Testament, the word "Jesus" occurs over 900 times. Following is a chart that lays this out.

      What does the Greek actually say?

      The Greek word for Jesus is Iησοῦς. It is pronounced as "eeaysoos." When "eeaysoos" was transliterated into the English long ago, it became Jesus--the term we use in English today.

      Some say that if we don't pronounce Jesus' name properly (either as Yeshua and or Eeaysoos), then we are in sin and serving a false god; but that accusation cannot be made from scripture. It is not the pronunciation of a word that makes us Christian or not. It is receiving the messiah, God in flesh, by faith that makes us a Christian. Likewise, must we say "theos" when saying "God" since that is how the word is pronounced in Greek? Or what about when we call Jesus the "Savior" as in Phil. 3:20, must we pronounce the word as it is in Greek (sotare), or is it okay to use the English word "savior?"

      The entire New Testament was written in Greek, and the word Jesus is the word that is used. It is not the Hebrew יֵשׁוּעַ which is Yeshua. So, it is simple. Jesus is properly called Jesus.

      • "And she will bear a Son; and you shall call His name Jesus, for it is He who will save His people from their sins." (Matt. 1:21).

      •"The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God." (Mark 1:1).

      •"let it be known to all of you, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead--by this name this man stands here before you in good health. 11 “He is the stone which was rejected by you, the builders, but which became the very corner stone. 12 “And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men, by which we must be saved." (Acts 4:10-12).

      •Paul, a bond-servant of Christ Jesus, acalled as an apostle, set apart for the gospel of God, (Rom. 1:1).

      •"But we do see Him who was made for a little while lower than the angels, namely, Jesus, because of the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, so that by the grace of God He might taste death for everyone." (Heb. 2:9).

      •"The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show to His bond-servants, the things which must shortly take place; and He sent and communicated it by His angel to His bond-servant John," (Rev. 1:1).

      As you can see, the New Testament uses "Jesus" as the name and not a Hebrew name. For people to say that Jesus' real name is Yashua or Yahusha or Yahushua, etc., is Jesus' real name is just a statement of pushing an agenda and not believing the New Testament text.

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      mike 85 3 years ago

      amun ra is correct spelling

      not amen ra

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      mike 85 3 years ago

      transliterated spelling Yehowah.

      translated name Yahweh

      transliterated name Yehowshuwa

      translated name yeshua

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      butterflywings1 3 years ago

      In Egypt Khensu was seen as the divine child of Amen.

      They had Khnum also who was a creator god-maker of heaven and earth. He was known also as Amen-Khum.

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      ro-jo-yo 3 years ago

      To Linda 73 yrs

      It would be very nice if more people were to take this matter seriously, but as it states in the scripture.

      Matthew 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

      Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

      Only those who seek the truth will be saved.

      John 4:23 But the hour cometh , and now is , when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

      John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

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      linda 73 yrs 3 years ago

      I;m considering things i've read and will still continue to read,even though i have deciced there are alot of people who are;nt taking this as serious as they should. I FEEL VERY UNHAPPY FOR YOU;

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      ro-jo-yo 3 years ago

      To mike 85

      You are so far off the money it isn't funny. You are the one who needs to do some serious research.

      Especially concerning the rules of Hebrew pronunciation, and rules of the Hebrew language.

      The name of the Almighty is Yehowah, and his son the Messiah, who came in his fathers name is,

      Yehowshuwa, which is also spelled Yehowshua, shuwa meaning a call to freedom in the Hebrew language.

      If you need help coming to the truth, try searching in the Hebrew scriptures, such as the Biblia Hebraica or the Aleppo codex for example.

      If you believe what you are saying then write a Hub for yourself.

      Everyone will have to make their own choice.

      As for seeking advice from a Pastor, Minister or Priest is ridiculous, because they have to say what they have been programmed to say, or they lose their job.

      2 Corinthians 11:13 For such false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Messiah.

      14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

      Nasty comments get deleted! You sure seem to like calling people stupid etc., not the best way to do things.

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      mike 85 3 years ago

      dang I spent 30 mins correcting you writing and u deleted the truth. Transliterted is for stupid americans to pronounce a word not actual spelling. Go get the translated name. you don't have it don't have time to correct u again good bye hope u soon fine the real truth cause u seem to have everything twisted and distorted,.

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      butterflywings1 3 years ago

      I have not twisted anything.

      I am implying that the word AMEN in the bible came from the same source as the Egyptian AMEN.

      Your hub is about THIS.

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      ro-jo-yo 3 years ago

      You are twisting and implying things that we did not say.

      The topic of this article is whether or not one should say the word Amen at the end of prayers. If a person follows the bible it states that we should worship YEHOWAH only and that we are not to have false Pagan names coming out of our mouths.

      I see that you have an account with hubpages, so if you want to discuss whether or not Greek comes from the Egyptian hieroglyphs etc., please write your own article on it, and discuss it there.

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      butterflywings1 3 years ago

      Hi ro-jo-yo

      I read that the Copts are Egyptians so I expect that they would have incorporated some Hieroglyphs into the language. The hieroglyphs were the base of the language I think??

      I also read that the Greek developed from the parent language of the Egyptians and Phonecians.

      I find it hard to believe that Greek was a totally independent language that led to the word AMEN, and the Egyptian language was totally independent and led to the word AMEN also.

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      ro-jo-yo 3 years ago

      Jesus may very well be Horus or the Greek Ammon Zeus, because it is an incorrect name, the Messiah is of Hebrew origin and his name is Yehowshuwa, the son of Almighty Yehowah, who is the god of the living.

      Amen and Horus and Osiris are names of the god of the Dead. What you and Steve are referring to is the Gnostic teachings, a manipulation of the Scriptures by the Greek Philosophers. Also I would like to point out that you are incorrect with your statement that Greek comes from the Egyptian Hieroglyphs, the Coptic language incorporated some Egyptian letters in there language, but the Greek language does not come from the Egyptian hieroglyphs.

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      butterflywings1 3 years ago

      Greek language comes from Egyptian hieroglyphs.

      Steve posted that the Greek AMN means 'our true lamb'.

      The Egyptians AMN was Horus.

      Many people believe that Jesus is a copy of Horus.

      Horus was known as the Good shepherd.

      Horus was the bread of life.

      Horus was the truth and life...

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      ro-jo-yo 3 years ago

      To mike85

      Your commments are hard to follow, inaccurate and contradictory, you say to do your own research and then you say to ask your local priest... Also you are incorrect about the letter J, it came into use in the 1500's. As for the true names, one has to look at the original Hebrew scripts, which all bibles are translated from. The Hebrew name YHWH is Yehowah, see Strong's Concordance #3068 and the name of the Messiah is Yehowshuwa, see Strong's Concordance #3091. And for further confirmation, one can look at the Bibilica Hebraica and Aleppo Codex.

      Amos 5:8 Seek him that maketh the seven stars and Orion, and turneth the shadow of death into the morning, and maketh the day dark with night: that calleth for the waters of the sea, and poureth them out upon the face of the earth: YEHOWAH is his name:

      Psalms 83:16 Fill their faces with shame; that they may seek thy name, O YEHOWAH. Let them be confounded and troubled for ever; yea, let them be put to shame , and perish : That men may know that thou, whose name alone is YEHOWAH, art the most high over all the earth.

      PSALMS 119:1 Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of YEHOWAH. Blessed are they that keep his testimonies, and that seek him with the whole heart.

      Deuteronomy 4:29 But if from thence thou shalt seek YEHOWAH thy God, thou shalt find him, if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul. When thou art in tribulation, and all these things are come upon thee, even in the latter days, if thou turn to YEHOWAH thy God, and shalt be obedient unto his voice. (For YEHOWAH thy God is a merciful God;) he will not forsake thee, neither destroy thee, nor forget the covenant of thy fathers which he sware unto them.

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      mike85 3 years ago

      Hebrew

      Gods real name (elohim) (YHWH) (Yahweh)

      the normal word for master is lord, a rendering of (Adonai)

      Jesus real name (yeshua)

      why does my bible have the real names spelled different from yours?

      god is universal don't use it cause which god are u talking about. Jesus actually is zeus translated to greek. nothing is accident. the devil wants our souls and wants to be worshiped. Don't let him win. do your own research and ask your local priest to guide u. But ultimately u have to decide for yours selves what to believe and what not too. but don't have your eyes wide shut.

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      mike85 3 years ago

      First of all its all fishy stinks to high heavens. Letter J was invented 1865 about a 100 years ago. which means no jesus no juersliam (no jews curse word for Hebrew people) Like nigger. Jesus in greek actually means (Iesous) (Zeus). Greek good. Mary catholic is actually goddess ices. Pray to mary( not. a god) just a good lady that had a baby. Catholics stop praying to mary she will not and cannot ever answer your prayers. Yeshua (Jesus). YHWH. Yahweh ( God) Correct spelling people this is our GOD. the way you guys have spelled our god and savior wrong theses are the correct spellings on my comments. This is why we need too start a new church to teach us the correct way.

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      TheWritingJournal 3 years ago

      According to the response "Rocky B (4 years ago)'' reading from the 5th paragraph, “I should point out that there was no such thing as Hebrews as a race of people prior to Jacob, who fathered the twelve tribes (which later became the Jewish nation). Jacob, who was, by pharoah, placed in one of the highest political positions one could hold without being a member of the royal family." Did he mean, "Joseph?" It was Joseph, which was appointed governor of Egypt according to the Biblical scripture, in Genesis. Furthermore, please explain the origin names "Yehowah, and Yehowshuawa? I read, that Egypt was well-established before the Bible/canon was constructed, translated many times, and finally written, in English. Where did the names: Yehowah, and Yehowshuwa arrive. Were these two names known before the place of Egypt came into existence? If you are able, educated, and knowledgeable with Circa, BC, and AD, etc. including the year, please respond. Honestly, I have invested so much time researching the origin of the Bible from indigenous, ancient, and Alpha as far back as possible. Understanding, Biblical scholars, and those with far advanced theological, seminary, and origin studies of Ancient historical privilege may qualify writing a valid and valuable response.

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      butterflywings1 3 years ago

      Amen, amon etc

      Mecca, Makkah =same place

      Rebecca, Rebekka=same name

      the egyptian ANKH became the ANCHor

      ANKH=symbol of immortal life

      ANCHor=symbol of immortal life

      check out 'The Anchor Baptist Church' for one.

      Persians crucified Egyptians(the people of the ANKH teachings) before Romans crucified Christians(the people of the ANCHor) teachings)

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      ro-jo-yo 3 years ago

      To Girl

      If you will read your bible, it states that the whole world will be deceived by the dragon who is Satan.

      And the great dragon was cast out , that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. (Revelation 12:9)

      Everyone has been indoctrinated with Satan's lies, he wants to deceive the whole world. One has to seek the truth on their own. We are not to use the name of a false god, and Amen is the name of the Egyptian god. In Luxor there are temples dedicated to Amen, also in the Egyptian Book of the Dead there is a hymn to the Egyptian god Amen-ra. The Egyptian pharaoh's also adopted the name Amen in their titles one example is the Pharaoh Amenhotep lll which means Amen is satisfied. Two new statues have just been erected at Luxor of Amenhotep lll. So Amen is a name of an Egyptian god. The Hebrew people were commanded to put away the gods of Egypt.

      Now therefore fear YEHOWAH, and serve him in sincerity and in truth: and put away the gods which your fathers served on the other side of the flood, and in Egypt; and serve ye YEHOWAH. (Joshua (Yehowshuwa) 24:14 )

      The true name of the Almighty is Yehowah. Jehovah is an incorrect German translation even though they will tell you that a Spanish Dominican monk, Raymundus Martini, in 1270 first used it, there were no J's until the 1500's and the Germans pronounced and changed the W as a V.

      And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, YEHOWAH God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations. (Exodus 3:15)

      The true name of the Messiah is Yehowshuwa, not Jesus, these are false teachings of Satan, the master deceiver. We must use the correct name. Jesus Christ is a false name therefore the Messiah Yehowshuwa will say depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

      Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them , I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. (Matthew 7:21)

      The will of the Father is:

      Hear , O Israel: YEHOWAH our God is one YEHOWAH: And thou shalt love YEHOWAH thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart: (Deuteronomy 6:4)

      So will I make my holy name known in the midst of my people Israel; and I will not let them pollute my holy name any more: and the heathen shall know that I am YEHOWAH, the Holy One in Israel. (Ezekiel 39:7)

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      Girl 3 years ago

      Please do not ever say we are worshipping satan! God forbid!! We worship the Almighty God Jehovah Jireh, God has many names. You can twist and turn the bible how you like, you can believe it's false but remember that , that word of God is the only thing that will never pass away! When we say amen! My God knows we mean and so shall it be, & we are in agreement with what we have just prayed. I couldn't care less what other meanings you have. You cannot addd or take away from Gods word. This is a very silly topic, the devil has the world focusing on such frivolous & irrelevant topics when Jesus Christ of Nazareth the messiah has called us to be Saved & focus on that!. If Gods word is all made up by man & certain things are lies, all the history u read & researched who wrote them then ? Cause I'm pretty sure you were not there. Thank You... We are children of the Most High I Am that I Am, do not ever classify us with that wicked devil ever again, I reject it!! In Jesus Mighty Name Amen! ... Believe God or not, Jesus or not, his word or not... He is not moved by it but only hurt & passionate for you. Accept Jesus as your Lord & saviour , believe his word rather than twisting it & bearing false witness against his children ( 10 commandments!).. God bless you!

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      ro-jo-yo 3 years ago

      I think that you are arrogant and that you are playing the fool. Both of your comments show lack of respect to everyone who reads it. Both should have been deleted. Any more uncivil comments made by you in the future will be deleted.

      We do not profit in writing our articles and we do not have a following. These are our findings in our own search for the truth, and to help and tell others that they too must seek the truth for themselves.

      There are many false prophets:

      Romans 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator

      Maybe you should think for yourself and not let Spinoza speak for you, but by the way you write clearly shows Spinoza thinks for you.

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      the simple truth 3 years ago

      Lol at your arrogance to deny others their truths you little man. No brainwashing involved fool. I think for myself and it is plain for all to see that you babble your 'truth' in the vain hope that others will follow you and support your delusions of grandeur. Spinoza was a philosopher not a religious zealot like yourself. Your cult of religion is sad. I feel sorry for you and your closed simple mind. The one truth is that we are ALL part of The Universe (meaning ONE) which is visible as Nature (Read Spinoza's ideas instead of persecuting him like you do everything). That is the TRUE face of God. Not some mythical bearded superMAN that you worship like a simpering slave sold on the promise of an afterlife. Have some respect if you know what that is and LOVE the Universe and all the organisms that are part of it. I wish you all the best in your long quest for understanding with your other blind followers that follow the heresay of the uneducated blind.

      Good luck. :-) xxx

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      ro-jo-yo 3 years ago

      Your comment has no value, seeing that you yourself have been "ritually brainwashed" by Spinoza's philosophy.

      Deuteronomy 8:19 And it shall be, if thou do at all forget YEHOWAH thy God, and walk after other gods, and serve them, and worship them, I testify against you this day that ye shall surely perish.

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      The Simple Truth 3 years ago

      2014 and simple minds still argue over their primitive beliefs based on myths derived from numerous ancient legends. To primitive man The Sun was proof of God. People have been ritually brainwashed by greedy men seeking power over the uneducated for too long. Nature is God. Spinoza was correct.

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      CrazyGata 3 years ago from Puerto Rico

      Ro-Jo-Yo, as a Wiccan and a Pagan I commend you. Socially shared. AGAIN!

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      ro-jo-yo 3 years ago

      To Ajrider

      Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall ADD unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall TAKE AWAY from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

      They took out the name Yehowah, the true name of our Creator and added the word Amen, a name of an Egyptian Sun God. They also changed the name of the messiah Yehowshuwa to the false name Jesus.

      This has been a plan of Satan to deceive the whole world. Only those who sincerely seek the truth will not be fooled.

      Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out , that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which DECEIVETH the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him

      Revelation 12:12 Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

      Psalm 83:16 Fill their faces with shame; that they may seek thy name, O Yehowah.

      Deuteronomy 4:29 But if from thence thou shalt seek YEHOWAH thy God, thou shalt find him, if thou seek him with all thy heart and with all thy soul.

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      ajrider@Live.com 3 years ago

      " they fell down on their faces before the throne an worshiped god saying: Amen praise an glory an wisdom an thanks an honor and power an strength to be our god forever and ever Amen"

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      Ajrider@live.com 3 years ago

      "These are the words of the Amen, the faithful an true witness the ruler of gods creation I know your deeds that you are neither cold nor hot because you are lukewarm i about to spit you out of my mouth"

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      ro-jo-yo 3 years ago

      To Mag 7

      If this topic wasn't so serious, I would laugh, you sound like an educated joke.

      You are one of those people who hinder people.

      Luke 11:52 KJV

      Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered

      First of all the "Faithful and True witness" is Yehowshuwa not Jesus or Amen. And the name of our Creator is YEHOWAH not LORD. And his Son is the Messiah not the Christ. Why would anyone cling and defend a Pagan name and yet not know the true name of the Father and his Son.

      There are actual hymns written to the Pagan Egyptian god Amen, here is a translation of one line.

      1. Praise to Amen-Ra: the bull in An (Heliopolis) chief of all gods: the good god beloved: giving life to all animated things: to all fair cattle: Hail to thee Amen-Ra lord of the thrones of the earth: chief in Aptu (Thebes): the bull of his mother in his field: turning his feet towards the land of the south: lord of the heathen, prince of Punt (Arabia): the ancient of heaven, the oldest of the earth: lord of all existences, the support of things, the support of all things.

      So to start or end any prayer with this pagan name, you are praising the Egyptian god.

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      mag7 3 years ago

      Egyptian god Amen-ra?

      The word “Amen” probably goes back a long way. Some imagine it is of pagan origin, there being an Egyptian god called Amen-Ra. They say that Moses introduced this name into the worship and religious language of the people he led out of Egypt. If Moses had done such a stupid thing, God would have been so angry! Instead, in the Bible, we first found the word “Amen” commanded by the Lord (Num 5:22). It is not credible that God would invoke the name of a false pagan god.

      2 Why do we say “Amen”?

      The word is almost always used to end a solemn statement, as in the example cited earlier. We find the word “Amen” as the last word in several instances in the Bible.

      The word is found in the last verses of the Bible (Rev 22:20-21).

      The first three books of Psalms end with Amen (Psa 41:13, Psa 72:19, Psa 89:52).

      Most books of the New Testament end with it (KJV).

      In the land of Israel, when a prayer or prophecy was made, or a law of God was read, "All the people said, “Amen”" (Neh 5:13, 8:6).

      The Lord’s example prayer ends with “Amen” (Mtt 6:13).

      Paul uses the word seven times in his letter to the Romans at the end of doxologies or benedictions Annotation on Doxology and Benediction with a link back to here (Rom 1:25, Rom 9:5, Rom 11:36, Rom 15:33, Rom 16:20,24,27)

      Paul implies that people should say “Amen” at the end of a prayer in church (1Co 14:16).

      The word “Amen” appears therefore to be the fitting last word for solemn utterances made before God.

      3 What Does “Amen” Mean?

      Oddly, to get a scriptural answer to what “Amen” means, we go to a place where it is used not as the last word but the first word. Jesus would often start a solemn statement by saying "Verily" or "Truly". In John's gospel (eg John 3:3) Jesus is recorded as using the word twice in succession, "Verily, verily, I say to you...". This is actually the word “Amen”.

      When we compare an instance of this in Mark, with the same statement in Luke, we find Mark has left the word untranslated (just as αμην “Amen”), but Luke has translated it using the word αληθος "Truly". (Mark 9:1, Luke 9:27). This shows us that the underlying meaning of the word “Amen” is truth and verity. It is a solemn affirmation. When we say, “Amen” we are saying, "Yes before God I agree with that, I believe that to be true, I want that to be so".

      Quick definition of Amen

      Definition: Amen is an exclamation expressing agreement with a statement. At the end of a prayer it expresses the genuineness or truth of the petition or praise. Amen means "truly", or "fair dinkum".

      Greek References: αμην ameen translated by Luke as αληθος aleethos, truly (Mark 9:1, Luke 9:27).

      Bible quotes for Amen

      Other interesting and helpful passages also show us that the word “Amen” is a solemn affirmation of truth, a special word that we can use whenever we have said (or heard) something that is true before God.

      Instead of saying, "Amen, Amen" Jeremiah paraphrased the second Amen in his statement, "Amen, the Lord do so" (Jer 28:6).

      One of God’s names or titles is "The God of Truth". If we left the last word untranslated, the title would read, "The God of Amen" (Isa 65:16).

      Paul uses the word as an affirmation when he says of Christ, "For as many as may be the promises of God, in him they are 'yes' and in him 'Amen' " (2Co 1:20).

      One of the names of Jesus is "The Amen, the Faithful and True Witness" (Rev 3:14).

      When the exiles returned from Babylon, "Ezra praised the LORD, the great God; and all the people lifted their hands and responded, 'Amen, Amen!' " (Neh 8:6).

      Some Psalms use the word twice together. For example, "Praise be to the LORD forever! Amen and Amen." (Psalm 89:52).

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      aaronb 3 years ago

      Great work brother.. the Most High revealed this to me almost a year ago! I had never heard anyone else talk about it to be influenced. So it was a direct and personal blessing for him to show me this because I seeked the truth. I try and tell and warn ppl but only get the same comments you receive. I feel the Most High revealed to me we are to use the word selah to lift our prayers up to him just as David did. After all David was, biblically, the first real true Jew. And we know we are to learn our lessons of salvation by example of the Jews ( John4:22) great work again brother! Love ya!

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      avatar 3 years ago

      Thanks for this hub all, came across it looking for a relationship (if any) between Armen and Amen, as Armen is named a fallen angel along with Baraqal curiously,but lets not go there for the moment!). Any thoughts would be appreciated.

      From the Book of Enoch - 69 HANOCH - ENOCH 69

      Names and Misdeeds of the Fallen angels

      69:1 After this judgment, they shall frighten them and make them scream because they have shown this knowledge of secret things to those who dwell on the earth.

      69:2 Now behold, I am naming the names of those angels! These are their names: The first of them is Semyaz, the second Aristaqis, the third Armen, the fourth Kokba'el, the fifth Tur'el, the sixth Rumyal, the seventh Danyul, the eighth Neqa'el, the ninth Baraqel, the tenth Azaz'el, the eleventh Armaros, the twelfth Betryal, the thirteenth Basas'el, the fourteenth Hanan'el, the fifteenth Tur'el, the sixteenth SipWese'el, the seventeenth Yeter'el, the eighteenth Tuma'el, the nineteenth Tur'el, the twentieth Rum'el, and the twenty -first Azaz'el.

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      jeremy 3 years ago

      I have read the two stories of creation in the bible. We have to know that created in everything in six days then rested. It was said be fruitfull and multiply and you know the rest of it then rested. Then man tryed to be like god. We are doing what god said but we were not told at our creation to be like god or copy or seek or understand god or how we were made. God gave us everything we needed

      Antichrist trys to be like god great signs and wounders he does what he see god do. Taught by man and is the son of man and uses man teachings to fafill his phrocey then makes him or herself like god.

      God only told us be fruitfull and so on then leaves the sceen then the lord god comes and copies it but somrthing went wrong prayer worship sacrifice books right and wrong the first story was the only story you need.

      Look at science cloning space travel so on one day we will make humans land on planets die slower and may be watching but it is up to us to survive till god wants us to know him this why bad happen to good people and good happens to bad god may not be involved in our personal affairs cant you see that by know be fruitfull and multiply comon sence will help you if it rain will not find something to stand under if your cut will you not try to stop the pain we shouldnt try to see what we cant see read what we cant read but we will try to why this is part of what created us in us. Truth is no one knows not even you. But have fun adventure and enjoy the earth the warmth from the sun the beauty of the moon the the relief of warter when your thristy. Do good and whats right becouse you know that it is right the is gods gift to us our life the earth the universe is the gift given what we do with it is up to us we are in this sall togather. Pray if it makes you happy your heart will be known.

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      Realman4429 3 years ago

      I enjoyed reading the discussion... The bible is Sun Worship at it's best..Psalms 84:11 tells you the truth... John 3:16 fools you by changing the spelling of Sun(son)....Where is the body of Jesus and his 12 friends?They call that the zodiac,they follow the sun...The sun walked on water... The sun is the morning star...It's the way the truth and the light...Religion is to control the masses...Spirituality is freedom....

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      ro-jo-yo 3 years ago

      To Philippe Bodi

      Having listened to your brother speak on a video and using the incorrect name Yahve. Makes me think of this verse:

      Luke 11:52

      "Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered ."

      And as he said these things unto them, the scribes and the Pharisees began to urge him vehemently, and to provoke him to speak of many things: Laying wait for him, and seeking to catch something out of his mouth, that they might accuse him.

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      Philippe Bodi 3 years ago

      My brother Daniel Bodi ( google him) teaches Hebrew, Aramaic and Akkadian at the University of Paris 8. He has three PhD s and is also an expert on the Old Testament. He is absolutely positive that " amen" is correct...

      Now , Jesus Christ in French and English don't have the same pronunciation, in Serbian for instance it would be " Isus Hristos" and in Greek Ιησους (Iēsoûs); in Italian it's Gesù Cristo... To insist on a fantasy pronunciation will not make us MORE spiritual...

      ....

      About Yahweh or Jehovah... Be careful, insisting on this may make us closer to the Jehovah's witnesses' cult... and of course, we don't know the original vowels, so this discussion is not on an academic level, but more on a sectarian level !?

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      Naasson 3 years ago

      Blessed be the name of YEHOWA Almighty.For I know the truth will prevail one way or an other, brother thank you for all the good works. Also for the women who said the Jews were hurting by the Satanist people, I don't thin she knows what she's talking about. Because the jews are the Satanist one according to the book of revelation chapter 2:9 the are the sinagog of satan. They are the author of all lies. And they are not the childrens of Israel, but childrens of the Satan or Devil.

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      Roland Mitchell 3 years ago from Newcastle upon Tyne

      I Since before the Internet telling me that Amen was a Pagan god or an Egyptian Pharaoh I would have some sixth sense telling me that Amen was an inappropriate word to say after prayer: I Never told anyone of my beliefs until I found that many many more people were coming up with the same theory: was I going out of mind where I was constantly told not to say Amen: I think not? There are other conclusions that have come about regarding the Bible: I truly do believe that there are things of which are spoken of within the Bible are True: But Knowing that the Scriptures have had different Translations and also that they differ from one thing to another: Now there is one thing that strikes home to me and that John the Baptist was first of all chosen by G-d to bring back the Lost sheep of Israel and I must emphasis on the word Israel (and not the Gentiles) Now what got my attention was the fact that Me being a Gentile and also an assembly of God Pentecostal I found that there seemed to be a some slight confusion about the Baptism of water unto the Repentance of sin? Now within the Protestant circle both in the Elem Pentecostal and A O G! A newcomer to the Pentecostal faith: the Pastor would notice this strange Face within the congregation and would often concentrate on speaking about the love of Jesus: where one thing leads to another where finally the call to the repentant sinner to go to the front of the Church: and on supposedly giving his self to Jesus he is told that he is now saved and is saved By grace alone: Now My findings are not so complex as what one might think But many things are overlooked within the Pentecostal Churches? For instance I as a Pentecostal being naïve at first accepted this church to be of the living Saviour: but as years went by I was less sure to whether the church was truly of the Messiah: The Pentecostal Churches were giving a different meaning to that of the True Church Here are my findings John the Baptist was to Baptize the People of Israel unto the Baptism of water unto the Repentance of Sin: Now although It may be not made Clear within the Bible I strongly and truly believe that among those Jews that were being Baptized were twelve Men that would soon Know the Messiah where they'd be Baptized in water unto the repentance of their sin: Some people would believe that the Baptism of water was purely symbolic and that one could do away with such formalities: but I Myself am convinced that it was a necessity of which G-d demanded of his Creation: that they were obligated to carry out ! Did not the Messiah say "Not a dot or an Iota shall be added or taken away from the word of G-d ? Then this being the case Jew and Gentile alike should carry out what god ordained and should we try and skip out or opt out from the word of G-d then we are Guilty of Putting out own life's at peril and if we are Pastors of that Church we are likewise doing the Same thing with the converts: There is a correct order that things should be done and if you skip things out then there is a risk of things Collapsing: If you Mix sand and cement and add no Water and then lay the Trowel with the Mixture of just sand and Cement onto a brick and then try to build a wall the wall is sure to Fall because there is a vital ingredient missing: Unless we follow the that of which is desired of us by G-d then we are depriving ourselves of Salvation? Therefore the Baptism of water unto the Repentance of our sin should therefore be foremost in everything we do: Symbolic in one sense it may be! But to leave it out is to bring condemnation to our soul ? Washing away our sins is for us to be cleansed of our sin: And thereafter should G-d favor you: He will then pour out his divine holy spirit upon you: But be warned for if you were to be Baptized unto the repentance of your sin: Take heed to this warning? The Messiah said that if anyone should be cleansed of there sin; and that they go back into the world and sin again that they are like a swine that was washed clean: But because the swine Knew no difference it Turned back round and went into the Mire of which it had first come from thus Making its self twice the worse as what it was in the beginning: Do not think like the Catholic thinks that he/ she / they can go and confess their sin before a priest and get away with just saying a few our Fathers and Hail Mary's that their sins be forgiven? The Baptism of water is a cleansing of the soul where then the divine Holy Spirit can dwell? Now some of you might say to me that you have never been Baptized in water and that you have the divine Holy Spirit within you and that you speak in tongues: Can you be sure that the spirit you have within you is the True divine Holy Spirit ?????? Now let's take a look at the Messiah? Ask yourself this question? Are you yourself more Purer than the Messiah are you favored more than He that was to Spread the Gospel where he was to humble himself to G-d that he should carry out the ministries unto his own People: if you think that you are more worthy than he that was to sacrifice his life upon two pieces of Timber with nails Hammered through his Hands and feet: then I bow down in reverence to you? The Messiah before he was to receive the Holy Spirit he too had to be Baptized of John:? What would this Statement conjure up in your Mind ? Well Let me first tell you of my thoughts: and I believe them to be True? I Believe that the Messiah was the seed of David and that there was no immaculate conception: I believe that Yosef (Joseph) was the seed of David and there was no Angel Gabriel that spoke to Joseph telling him not to have intercourse with Miri (Mary ) I believe that Miri (Mary) was to give birth to the Messiah through Natural Means where Yosef was the Natural Father: and therefore the Messiah was born also the seed of David: Say for instance if the Messiah were to get Married and that is wife were to present him with a son then too that child would become the Seed of David? Now with this hypothesis in mind The messiah would be Totally Human which would Conclude that he was the son of Man; of which became the son of G-d not by an immaculate Conception but by the Manifest of G-d: The Idea of the Only begotten son of g-d Tells me that you were somewhat influenced to believe that g-d put his seed in Mary? Wrong: Truly he was the Only Begotten son of G-d: but not the way you are made to believe? It was as you know it was in the prophecy that the Seed of David through Bathsheba would one day bare a son: But in the New testament of the Bible you are told of something of which adds contradiction? you either believe that the Messiah was born of the immaculate Conception or you believe that he was the son of man made manifest to be the Son of G-d? G-d Forgive me? But if I were G-d and that I favored a mere Mortal and that I loved him as my own I would therefore Manifest it to be made Know that although he was a Son of Man: I'd make it Known to the World that I had made it in my will that he was my adopted son who was once of Man? The Messiah was Flesh and blood: he was the son of a Carpenter a child who was brought up in a manner where he was devoted to reading the scriptures But he was none the less a child of which had Human weakness and this is why he had to go through the waters of Baptism unto the repentance of sin: It was after and only after he had been cleansed of his sin that he became Sinless: I Would make it clear to you that the Messiah's Name is not Jesus and that he is not called the Christ and that I want him to live within me: For without him I will perish for he is my refuge and Strength without him I am no one I praise his name and embrace him as My rescuer One day the world will come to an end but those that have found G-d through the Man that gave himself to be whipped and scourged and to be spat upon and humiliated and then crucified shall be saved? If you are a Jew and that you are within the Roman Catholic Church Come out of her for she is an whore a deceiver she is a bottomless pit where intense heat shall devour your Soul come out of her and be counted with those that Love G-d treat yourself to eternity

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      ro-jo-yo 3 years ago

      To Dale

      Your comment is strange, its sounds like you have been heavily indoctrinated by the Cult of Amen. The bible states that YEHOWAH will punish the cult of Amen and the Pharaohs and kings of Egypt/Mitsrayim. Jeremiah 46:25

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      Dale 3 years ago

      Why do everyone keep saying Eygpt when we know that it's north africa. And as for Amen, the creator is came out of darkness the perfect black. And the African spirituality new of duality throught the universe, positive negative,male female light dark.

      The trinity mother father and child. The woman is not a ghost, as the woman is the mother of Civilisation . We gave the creative life force the name amen and in our mind image he was black. We never worshipped the sun we new the sun is the source of life.Amen everlasting .

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      Istanbul 3 years ago

      There actually is another city in the world where Egyptian obelisks can be seen : Istanbul! By the way, there is not only one but there are TWO obelisks in the same square facing each other for centuries.

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      ro-jo-yo 4 years ago

      To Lisa

      If one loves the Creator with all their heart, then I would presume that they would like to use his correct name. If one does not know the correct name I think one should try to find out what it is.

      James 2:20 But wilt thou know , O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

      In the end all will know his great name.

      Ezekiel 36:23 And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am YEHOWAH, saith the Lord YEHOWAH, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.

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      Rachel 4 years ago

      "Amen" Christ's new name...

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      Lisa 4 years ago

      Dave, thank you for your comment, I love you. To everyone, I love you too, I hope that you will all experience (know) Gods grace. If you haven't already, close your eyes, relax your body, empty your mind, and focus on nothing, when you do this, with all your heart, ask for God (by whatever name you think is right for you) to help you, God will come to you as God came to me . God is pure love, God is everywhere and within everything, God is within you, within the 'good' people and also within the 'bad' people. Our skin colour is a gift from God, to help us live in the hot and cold climate of this wonderful planet we live on. Language is a gift from God to help us connect with each other. We are not separate people, we are all one people. I pray that you all connect, with God and with each other, for everything in this universe is God, love God and love your neighbour, and your neighbours neighbour, and love all creation and truly know that God is within us all, and within everything. I love you all, and pray that one day we can all let go of our ego, and be one with each other and therefore one with God.

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      Roland Mitchell 4 years ago from Newcastle upon Tyne

      The Church of Rome formally The church of Babylon of which had the tradition of its congregations Line up before the Alter and drink or sip from one vessel Lambs blood where the Blood of the lamb would curdle within the Cup and would stink the congregation would find it revolting One young Priests wanted to wash out the cup before fresher blood was poured into the cup It would be that on asking to stop the ceremony for a brief moment the higher of the two priests said no and get on with the job an argument sprung up where the high priest suggested to Separate from the church of Babylon and create their own churches They Kept the same traditions as the Church of Babylon but went under the title of Pharisee and Sadducee a corrupt and Evil Church Like it like it not the Pharisee and Sadducee Church's are of the same today as what they were a few thousand years ago they have changed their names to Catholic and Protestant churches but in stead of sipping Blood they now use wine or some red coloured Drink I know protestants will get their backs up about this but they that is both of them celebrate Christmas Easter and all the other garbage that goes with it I Too do not believe Amen should be used in a prayer or anything whatsoever if you pay lip service to Pagan Gods then you reap the same reward as the rest of us and it is not a pretty Picture Nuclear wars and total destruction and once we are dead or once our bodies are dead we will not know salvation

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      Steve 4 years ago

      AMN is Aleph Mem Nun. It is the word True in Hebrew and the same word we use when we say AMEN.

      In Greek, AMN is Lamb.

      Amni is River of life

      Amnio is Bowl or Lamb

      Amnion is the Bowl that catches the sacrifice of the Lamb. Also, it is the sac covering the baby in the womb.

      Amniotic Fluid is the water (Amni) of the baby.

      Amnesia is the condition of forgetting. This is when we forget our sin.

      Amnesty is when God forgets the transgression of the lamb.

      dAMNation is when God does not forget.

      Aleph is Strength

      Mem is Water

      Nun is Seed

      Father is Hebrew is Aleph Bet (Alphabet / Letters of DNA)

      Mother is Aleph Mem (Waters of our involution / baptism)

      Son is Bet Nun (House of Seed). Again, DNA is key to knowing the truth behind the letters and the Word (Christ).

      AMN is our True Lamb

      Amen

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      ro-jo-yo 4 years ago

      The Messiah Yehowshuwa said that the greatest commandment is:

      Hear , O Israel; YEHOWAH our God is one YEHOWAH: And thou shalt love YEHOWAH thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

      So we must love our Father Yehowah first. Then we must love one another.