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7 Reasons I Believe in God

Updated on January 4, 2016
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Asa is an autodidactic Christian apologist. He currently lives in Idaho with his family.

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Observable Evidence

One of the first reasons I believe in God, is because of the observable evidence all around me. When I see the design of something as complex as my own body, I don't have enough faith to believe I evolved from re-arranged pond scum over millions (or billions) of years. What if one part of our nervous system were not fully evolved? We would not survive a day. The perfect harmony of every bone in our skeletal system, which supports the perfect cooperation of our muscular system, which runs in perfect accord with our nervous system, is observable evidence we were created by God. Not to mention that we would not last a minute without a perfectly running cardiovascular system, which would not last without an infallible digestive system, which would fail without a flawless urinary system, and I have not even mentioned the lymphatic, endocrine, repiratory or reproductive systems.

To me, even a cursory study of anatomy is a slap in the face to any theory that we came about by chance. Doctors have been studying the human body for centuries, and in increasingly minute detail, as technology advances, yet they are still discovering new things about our irreducible complexity every day.

Consider, too, the design of thousands of animal species in the world, as well as thousands of types of trees, shrubs, vines and flowers; the function of the water cycle, ocean currents; the perfect relationship of oxygen to hydrogen in water that makes life on earth possible. What about the other planets and the "fined-tuned" universe we live in? To believe that all of this came into existence as the result of an explosion, billions of years ago, is on par with believing in magic.

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The Value of Human Life

I want to tell you a story: The other day, I oiled up my .22 long rifle, went out early in the morning, and shot a ground hog at the railroad tracks which run by my house. What do you think about that?

You might think: Um...good for you? Perhaps you're thinking: Poor ground hog, I think their cute!

Now let me tell you another story: The other day, I oiled up my .22 long rifle, went out early in the morning and shot a baby in a stroller. What do you think about that?

Such an idea is appalling, isn't it? It probably disturbs you. But why? Why does it bother you?

When you think about it, if atheism were true, there is really no difference between me shooting a ground hog and me shooting a baby. They are both just animals. One is a soulless mammal and the other is a soulless primate. Big deal.

Ah, but there is a difference, isn't there? You would not see someone shoot a baby in a stroller, and just shrug it off. There is a vast difference between a human baby and a ground hog.

The value of human life is another reason I believe in a Creator God. I don't believe you and I are just soulless monkeys with no value. This is, however, the inevitable conclusion if atheism were true.

Being created in the image of God makes sense of the value we place on human life.

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Morality and the Moral Conscience

We all hold to some sort of moral code. Even atheists hold to a moral code, though they have absolutely no reason to believe in morality. When you think about it, if atheism is true and this material world is all that exists, then there is no reason whatsoever to believe that certain actions we do are "right" or "wrong" or "good" or "bad". Yet, atheists are offended if you suggest they are without morality. A common slogan of atheists reads, 'I can be good without God'.

So, if we all have a moral conscience and believe in morality, let's ask ourselves -- why?

Atheism does not provide a satisfactory answer. In fact, it provides no answer at all! Atheism is morally bankrupt.

When considering this, if we follow the path of reason, we really only have two options.

(1) We must deny the existence of morality and our moral conscience; or

(2) We believe that there is an objective, moral standard for what is right and wrong.

I don't know about you, but I believe in morality and my moral conscience. That leaves me with only the second option.

What is that objective, moral standard then? Could it be God? Have I been created in the image of a moral God who has imbued me with a moral conscience?

When considering all of this, to believe that we were created by a moral God makes perfect sense. In fact, it is the only rational and satisfying answer.

They demonstrate that God’s law is written in their hearts, for their own conscience and thoughts either accuse them or tell them they are doing right. (Romans 2:15)

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The Bible

Another reason I believe in God, is because of the Bible. Critics have microscopically dissected the Bible for years, and it has proven itself without flaw. Some determined skeptics claim to have found errors or contradictions in the Bible, but all of them have proven to be erroneous and some are blatantly fabricated. The Bible's historical accuracy has been proven by archeology time and time again. There are even scientific facts that have been in the Bible for millennia, which have ONLY RECENTLY been confirmed by our modern, scientific methods!

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Power of the Gospel Message in People's Lives

To me, one of the strongest evidences for God, is the power of the Gospel Message in people's lives. Acknowledging God and accepting Jesus Christ as Savior, changes people over night. Prison inmates have utterly spurned their previous ways of life after accepting Christ. Youtube has tons of videos of personal testimonies of homosexuals who spurned their former lifestyles after being saved by the blood of Christ. Drug addicts, alcoholics, porn addicts - people lost in sinful lifestyles have turned their lives around through the power of Christ. I, personally, have a friend who was a drug addict and made a complete 180° after asking God to save him. People are saved every day, and turn their lives around through the power of Jesus Christ.

In more subtle ways, people have changed their lives by following more closely the principles laid down in the Bible. They go through a personal revival (many times because of reading something in the Bible), and they become better people.

Perhaps you have experienced God working some way in your life? All of these things confirm the existence of God.

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Love in Our Hearts

Another reason I believe in God, is because of the love found in the human heart. We may not choose to show that love; we may try to suppress it; some have chosen to become extremely callous to it, but it is there, nonetheless.

No, no, I am not making a faulty appeal to emotion or building an argument on romantic rhetoric. I'm simply considering this: if we humans are only apes that have evolved from pond scum over billions of years, through a brut fighting instinct for survival, where does love come from? Love has no place in evolutionary atheism.

Now, I am not saying that the existence of love in our hearts is a clinching argument for the existence of God, but if it is true that a moral God exists, and we are made in his image, then love makes perfect sense.


Giving your personal experience as a reason why you believe in God is not useless.
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Personal Experience as Proof for God?

Personal experience is a way I know God exists. My life is filled with personal experiences of God.

Personal experience, however, is hotly contested by atheists. Many say, "Your personal experience proves nothing."

This is true in only one way. Your personal experience may not prove anything to the person you are talking to, but it is proof for you, and it is certainly not useless.

Even atheists recognize the usefulness of personal experiences. The internet has many stories of atheist's personal experiences; stories like,"My Journey from Believer to Skeptic".

It's always been funny to me that atheists will use their personal experiences to show why they don't believe in God, but they will shout and stomp if someone else uses their personal experience to point to why they do believe in God.

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Never Let Anyone Tell You That You Cannot Be Sure of God

Never let an atheist say that you cannot really know God exists.

If I was to approach you, my reader, and say, "You can't really know your spouse exists.", you would look at me like I was an idiot and say, "Of course I know my spouse exists! I know my spouse. I love her/him. I have a personal relationship with her/him!"

It's the same thing with God. I know God. I love God. He is not some blind hope I have. I don't have my fingers crossed that He is out there somewhere. I have a personal relationship with Him.

Belief in God Makes Sense of Reality

Belief in God makes sense of reality. In other words, it makes sense of everything I see around me.

Why is there such a mind-boggling complexity of design in the world, if it had no designer? Why is there morality, if there is no moral law giver? Why do we value life, if we are all just chemical accidents? Why do we wear clothes, if we are soulless primates? If the universe came into existence from an explosion, why is it fine-tuned? Atheism does not provide any answers, it just evokes more questions. Atheism is intellectually bankrupt. The atheist worldview cuts against reality. Atheism requires so much blind faith and leaves so many questions unanswered, that I have no choice but to reject it. Then, when I consider the universe from a Christian worldview, nearly everything makes sense.

God has not only given us enough evidence of Himself and revealed to us His power and nature, but He has shown us how to become right with Him. Like everyone else, I have a very long rap sheet of things I've done wrong. I've lied, I've cheated, I've lusted, I've stolen from my fellow man, I've been cruel to my friends, I've hurt my family, I've hurt people I don't even know, and the list goes on and on. All of these sins leave me guilty before God.

But God has shown me how to become right with Him, and that's through His Son, Jesus Christ, who has taken the penalty of my sins. I stood before the Moral Law Giver, my rap sheet spread before Him, and Christ Jesus seized my rap sheet, and said, "God, I take full responsibility for this man's sin. I offered to suffer in his place, and he accepted it. Please clear his name and give him eternal life." Since then, not only has God nullified the punishment I deserve, but He has also given me new desires and a new heart to be a better person. He also offers me a personal relationship with Him, which I work to take advantage of every day (Luke 12:21).

He offers this to you as well.

For this is how God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life. (John 3:16)

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      Nope 16 months ago

      I love how you paint your whole "argument" around your belief being true. If i may ask, how is the Bible "flawless"? What people have dissected each and every translation of the Bible and found it flawless? Because honestly, if you were to go through every translation, you would find many flaws. I'd also love it if you could find accurate and credible sources to back up your arguments. And for the record, i don't care if the last comments were 15 months ago.

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      Asa Schneidermann 2 years ago from Boise

      Thank you stargrrl. I'm actually working on a "Revised and Expanded" version of this Hub. It will be published within the next week. Due to some of the challenges atheist's presented, I thought of a lot more stuff to add!

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      Stargrrl 2 years ago

      Excellent hub. Good points made.

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      Asa Schneidermann 2 years ago from Boise

      VDP,

      Because I argue that everyone knows God exists does not mean I won the debate. It does attack the very foundation of your position, but that is just the same as you attacking the Bible - the foundation of my position. Using your logic, 'atheists' claim winning a debate every time they say the Bible is not true.

      Regarding the appendix, it is not a vestigial organ. Scientists have disproved that long ago. Darwin asserts that in "Descent of Man" but scientists have proved it's not true.https://answersingenesis.org/human-body/vestigial-...

      Regarding all of the bad things going on in the world: A child gets raped, and do you get angry and saddened by how a fellow human could be so evil? No. You blame it on God. Sometimes those questions do come to my mind too. Such as when I read stories about some of the things ISIS is doing to women and children over in the middle east. But that is man's fault. WE caused this sin to come into the world. ISIS is running rampant because the U.S. is supporting them through careless (human laziness) monitoring of it's relief supplies that are supposed to be going to victims. We have the military power to crush ISIS and end the evil within this calendar month, but we don't have the moral will to do that. Thus evil flourishes in the Middle East.

      What you are saying is, when God looks down and sees a child being raped he should come down and destroy the person doing it. Seems reasonable. But what about all the other sins? I may not do something as heinous as rape a child, but I have lied, stolen, cheated, hurt people, hurt my family, my rap sheet goes on and on. God should have destroyed me when I punched my brother's tooth out a couple years ago. If that's the case, God should have wiped us all out at some point in time for evil things we have done! We should all have been dead long ago!

      And we WILL be dead, and we deserve death. That death is called hell. Hell is not some place where a bunch of pointy-tailed devils dance around in fire. It's a place where we are spiritually separated from God. It is what we deserve for all of the evil we have perpetrated throughout our lives. But God gives us a way to avoid that punishment through His Son Jesus Christ.

      Many people ask: Why would God create us knowing we would sin? I honestly don't know for sure, but does that matter? God has given us a way to escape that sin and it is ours for the taking! It is a free gift! All we have to do is ask.

      P.S. What about cancer and blights and stuff that we do not cause directly? It is all part of what the Bible calls the Curse. The whole world WAS created perfect in the beginning, but God gave man a choice to obey Him or not and through Adam's sin God says everything in the world is under that curse of sin (whether directly or indirectly).

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      violentdeepfart 2 years ago

      I'm not sure if this got posted or blocked as spam or something, so I'll post it again.

      You claim victory by asserting that atheists aren't actually atheists, and are lying to themselves and others. This premise is a non-starter. You can't possibly prove that atheists actually believe in god, and atheists can't prove to you that they don't. Therefore, you have "won" the debate.

      You presume the existence of a god because of how amazing the world appears, and how perfect and complex it is. None of this is evidence for a god. Further, things are far from perfect. There is cancer. There are blights. There are natural disasters. There are psychopaths, murderers, pedophiles. We have an organ that only serves to kill us from infection if we don't have it removed in time (the appendix). All of that is imperfection, and further, it is evident that there is not a loving, omnipotent god. Because if he was truly loving and omnipotent, none of this would happen. God will allow your child to be raped as a "test of faith" instead of preventing it from happening. Why would you worship a god like that? The answer is, you don't because it's absurd, and your child got raped because there are pedophiles in this world, because everything is not perfect, and sometimes shit happens.

      Here is Tracy Harris's input:

      "If I could stop a person from raping a child, I would. That’s the difference between me and your God."

      If I could stop a child from starving to death, I would. God apparently doesn't mind standing by and doing nothing.

      Christians will say, "But God wants you to help these kids!"

      Okay, what if I said, "I am standing next to this kid with a year's supply of canned meals that I don't need, and could give it to him, but I'm not going to. I want you to help the kid," how would that sound? Of course it would sound absolutely ridiculous and you'd blame me if the kid starves to death. So why is it perfect and loving of God to do the exact same thing?

      Christians will say, "But God gives us free will and he can't interfere with the natural course of things!"

      Two things to say in response to that:

      One who says this must be saying that God never has and never will intervene with the world whatsoever, because intervening even once would nullify the argument that God values free will so much that he cannot intervene. This would invalidate every part of the Bible where God does anything after creation of the universe....which is pretty much the whole Bible. It would also invalidate every claim of "answered prayers" that has ever been claimed, since God would not be able to answer them if he has to be 100% hands-off and cannot intervene with us due to Free Will. It also invalidates every "sign from God" that anyone has ever claimed, since again, it would violate free will for him to intervene in our lives. So all "personal experience" that Christians claim validates their beliefs, is invalid.

      Why can't God just make food grow in those parts of Africa? How would it violate free will to make some food grow and animals reproduce more for meat? Is the free will of farmers in the West violated because food grows plentiful here? Free will doesn't even work as an excuse when it comes to starvation.

      Complexity can be explained by evolution. You can choose to ignore this, but you are being willfully ignorant. Things were simple to begin with. There is fossil evidence of this. We can see examples of how the eye has evolved from a simple light-detecting organ (such as what some marine animals still have), to the complex organ it is in our case. We likely evolved to see color because being able to distinguish between ripe and unripe fruit is beneficial for us, as well as being able to see bright colors that indicate poison. There are actually more complex and advanced eyes in nature. The eyes of the mantis shrimp. It can see a far wider spectrum of light. The points to evolution causing this. You could believe that god directed these changes, or you can stick your head in the sand and refuse to acknowledge them at all.

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      violentdeepfart 2 years ago

      You presume the existence of god everywhere you look. You think the cosmos and the world are amazing, therefore god must have created it. You think everything is organized so perfectly, therefore god, even though everything is far from perfect. Children get cancer. There are blights. There are serial killers. There are fascist dictators. Millions of people are starving and dying of infectious disease. How is that perfect? Why would a perfect loving god let this happen? Your child gets raped. God allows that to test your faith? Why would anyone worship that god?

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      violentdeepfart 2 years ago

      You claim victory by saying that atheists aren't actually atheists and do believe in god, but choose to ignore him. If you believe that to be true, then there is no debate to be had with you. You start the debate with a premise that is utterly absurd, and impossible to argue against. I can only say, no I don't believe in god. You say, yes you do. You can't possibly prove that atheists actually believe in god, and atheists can't possibly prove to you that they don't. It's like if I said, you don't actually believe in god because there is no god.

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      Asa Schneidermann 2 years ago from Boise

      Excellent question! You just gave me an idea for my next Hub!! "How is Evolution or the Big Bang at odds with Creation?"

      First of all, the Catholics are not leaving anyone "behind". I do not follow what a Pope says, I follow what God's Word says. Popes in history have also ordered that people who do not subscribe to their church be killed. The Pope is a sinful man just like any other. In the Bible, we are to follow God, not some man.

      I don't see evolution as part of God's plan because the Bible says God created the world in six days. Many Christians try to modify this and make this verse to mean six epochs or six time periods etc., but there is no evidence (beside wishful thinking) why this would be. The Bible simply says SIX DAYS. Christians try to bend over backwards in an attempt to fit millions of years into the Bible and there is simply no reason to support their idea. Also, if evolution were part of "God's plan" then there are lots of verses that don't make sense such as the first death in the world - a lamb - to cloth Adam and Eve. If millions of years existed before this, how do you fit "survival of the fittest" in with the first animal death? A bunch of unanswerable questions come up when you try to fit evolution in with Creation.

      In regard to the Big Bang…haha…in a way a big bang over six days with something specific created on each day DID happen. But their is a difference between an Almighty Being creating and shaping the world and holding it's perfect order together, verses the whole universe exploding into existence into perfect order for no reason and staying that way.

      In regard to "my faith", everyone has faith in something - Christian, evolutionist, Big Bang theorist, Buddhist, you, me, our friends - everyone has to have faith in regard to how the world started.

      Thanks for the question. You've given me a lot to think about.

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      violentdeepfart 2 years ago

      http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/pop...

      What do you have to say to the Pope, as Catholics leave you behind? Why can't evolution be part of god's plan? Why couldn't god have caused the Big Bang? These scientific theories do not have to be at odds with your faith.

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      Asa Schneidermann 2 years ago from Boise

      For being an article that has "failed miserably" in proving it's point, you sure are going to a lot of trouble to argue it down….

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      getitrite 2 years ago

      Asa,

      My attitude is that of a lucid human being, with common sense, and many years of experience. I have made very clear and accurate observations of the fallacies in this article. Your inability to accept my straightforward findings is clearly a result of some mental block, caused by indoctrination, or some other source. You have a desperate desire to believe this stuff, and you will find a way to trick your mind into believing it. But your premise and conclusions are completely unscientific and lack even the basic rudiments of the scientific method. The burden of proof is on you, and, unfortunately, this article has failed miserably.

      BTW, I also grew up in a Christian home as well. I was SAVED at an early age and never questioned this nonsense either...then one day I could no longer deal with the intellectual dishonesty inherent in blind faith.

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      Asa Schneidermann 2 years ago from Boise

      Getitrite, you are simply piling accusations on top of more accusations, and not proving anything. It's obvious you don't have any answers. Thanks for stopping by to comment though - despite your attitude.

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      Oztinato 2 years ago from Australia

      Of course nasty comments need to be deleted. Insults have no place in rational debates.

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      getitrite 2 years ago

      Asa.

      I'm sorry, but everything that you post here in response, is ridiculously flawed, and follows no logic at all. You just make up stuff to suit your totally indoctrinated world view. Its like saying, "1 + 2 =147" then just whimsically forcing your conclusion...without anything to back it up. That's bizarre. And why can't you stand and support your views and stop deleting peoples comments? It is apparent that your hub has gone viral. You should be encouraging people to return and discuss your premise with you. That equals profit.

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      Asa Schneidermann 2 years ago from Boise

      Doesn't the fact that you are debating so vehemently about this show you something? You find it OFFENSIVE that I declare atheists believe in God?

      If a Buddhist approached me and declared, "You believe Buddha was god. I know it!". I would not be offended. I would probably laugh actually. Why? Because I'm firm in my disbelief in Buddha!

      The fact that you find it "offensive" proves the statement of Romans 1:19.

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      Asa Schneidermann 2 years ago from Boise

      If someone wants to leave a legitimate comment and ask an honest question or pose a theory or idea etc., they can without shouting nasty accusations.

      Hmm…"misconstrue to the point of defamation". Is that kind of like how atheists are always accusing Christians of being ignorant or teaching Creation will inhibit scientific progress? Every 'atheist' "misconstrues to the point of defamation the position of Christians" by saying that God is evil. Whenever either side - atheist or Christian- makes an argument against the other's worldview, it is going to misconstrue their position.

      You may adhere to a moral philosophy just like almost everyone does, but isn't that more proof that you were all created by a God who has given you a moral instinct called a conscience? Why do you think stealing is wrong? You are a chemical accident; I'm a chemical accident. If I take something from you, there are no grounds for that being a "wrong" thing. You may not like it, but it is not grounds for being "immoral". The whole idea that certain actions are wrong and certain actions are right makes sense under a worldview that we are created by a God who sets the rules.

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      violentdeepfart 2 years ago

      Why did you delete the previous comment that rebutted all of your points? You accuse others of leaving nasty comments. Do you realize how offensive it is when you totally misconstrue to the point of defamation the positions of atheists? You say things like "atheists are trying to convince us all that there is no purpose to life." That is total nonsense. Many atheists, myself included, adhere to Secular Humanism. It is a moral philosophy that embraces reason, ethics, and empathy for your fellow man. Contrary to what you may believe, atheists can be highly upstanding people who contribute to bettering our society. Saying that atheists are amoral nihilists is bigoted ignorance.

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      Asa Schneidermann 2 years ago from Boise

      Boy, atheists sure go to a lot of trouble to attack a God you say is not even there. You've taken it upon as your purpose in life to convince all of us there is no purpose in life.

      First of all, for all you who left nasty comments, I deleted them and will continue to delete them in the future. If you actually want to discuss something, go ahead and do so, otherwise stay off. You are cluttering Hubpages.

      Shawn, 97% of scientists are not atheists of agnostics. Some studies show as high as 2 out of 3 scientists believe in God.

      http://www.livescience.com/379-scientists-belief-g...

      Getitrite, here is 1. Kings 7:2323 Then Huram cast a great round basin, 15 feet across from rim to rim, called the Sea. It was 7 1⁄2 feet deep and about 45 feet in circumference.

      Notice the word ABOUT. Also, the ancient measurement for a cubit was sometimes measured as the length of a man's forearm.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cubit

      In regard to Genesis 30:37-39 on genetics. There are several explanations. One is that in Genesis 31 Jacob talks about how God uncommonly blessed him for his success as a sheep breeder, but there are also scientific explanations. Check it out: http://www.geneimprint.com/site/press/12861015-115...

      Aside from all these accusations, is it really that we don't have enough proof for God or just can't believe the Bible? Of course not. We don't want to believe in God because we don't want to do what He says. We know that if we acknowledge His existence, that means we have to start doing some things differently in our lives. This is why everyone is so heated over this debate. I don't go on alien believer sites and start debating my disbelief in aliens because I firmly believe they are not out there. I even have an excuse to be indignant because a lot of my tax dollars spent in NASA trying to find extra terrestrial life (which is so funny because most atheist are perfectly willing to believe in aliens but will deny to the death that no god exists).

      We deny God because we don't want to turn from out sin. I know because I've felt the same way...

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      violentdeepfart 2 years ago

      Regarding the Big Bang being ridiculous, what if that's how god created the universe? Doesn't it basically pop into existence in a week in the bible? How is that so different?

      What if god directs evolution? Why do you feel that evolution has to be at odds with god? Evolution exists whether you believe in it or not. It has been observed directly lab grown bacteria. You are being willfully ignorant for not educating yourself about it, and deluding yourself. The more rational approach as a theist would be to try to understand it, and believe god is controlling it (even if that's not the case.)

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      Amanda Walker 2 years ago from Troy, IL

      I was hoping that by opening this question up there might be some intellectual debate stirred. apparently for some reason this article has drawn arrogant insulting responses instead

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      Amanda Walker 2 years ago from Troy, IL

      why do people have to get so nasty? Obviously the idea of God provokes a lot of anger inside people who then feel the need to tear other people down and end up making themselves look ignorant

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      getitrite 2 years ago

      Asa,

      Let's see...Bible mathematics: (1 Kings 7:23)~ And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about.

      This would mean that Pi = 3.0, instead of 3.14159265359...

      Modern day mathematics does not support this.

      Biblical Genetics (Genesis 30:37-39) (ESV)37 Then Jacob took fresh sticks of poplar and almond and plane trees, and peeled white streaks in them, exposing the white of the sticks. 38 He set the sticks that he had peeled in front of the flocks in the troughs, that is, the watering places, where the flocks came to drink. And since they bred when they came to drink, 39 the flocks bred in front of the sticks and so the flocks brought forth striped, speckled, and spotted.

      This is absolutely embarrassing, as everyone knows that this is abject ignorance in view of what we know about genetics through modern science.

      In conclusion, it is apparent that these primitive holy books were not the assertions of an ALL KNOWING deity, but the feeble assertions of the limited mind of ancient ignorant humans.

      Try something else man. This has already been thoroughly debunked.

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      Shawn 2 years ago

      Asa2141 - No science DOES NOT point to your or any god. PERIOD! how can you theists not get this through your thick skulls. 97% of scientists are agnostic or atheist.

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      Asa Schneidermann 2 years ago from Boise

      Isn't it so interesting that everything from modern day mathematics and science to ancient books point to God?

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      getitrite 2 years ago

      WOW!

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      Asa Schneidermann 2 years ago from Boise

      It is perfectly rational. Your premise is wrong that the Bible is primitive.

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      getitrite 2 years ago

      Oztinato, So do you think it is rational to jump from proving that God exists through mathematical sciences...to accepting that primitive books are the way to find that God...and what way He would like for us to behave and worship? Just asking?

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      Oztinato 2 years ago from Australia

      getitrite

      there is ample proof already. A scientist named Kurt Godel proved it by maths. This has not been contradicted by any other mathematician.

      Kurt Godel was unofficially anointed by Albert Einstein as his successor and he spent most of his spare time talking and listening to Godel in the last few years of life.

      There are also other Hubs here with rational proofs of God (see "Proof of God")

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      Amanda Walker 2 years ago from Troy, IL

      This is a good article explaining why you think God exists. You probably shouldn't have commented on atheists however because now you have stirred emotionally heated responses that will never actually consider the points you made to be true. Every person has to decide for themselves and historically, true Christian beliefs have been reacted to with anger and even violence at times. I am not talking about people who claim to be Christians but do not follow the principles of life Jesus taught. I personally think that an Atheist would have no qualms with Jesus himself. I believe i have the right to that opinion without critical anger coming down on me.

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      Asa Schneidermann 2 years ago from Boise

      Getitrite, I do not conclude immediately that "Goddunit". I look at the evidence and coupled with extensive reading of the Bible, listening to scientists, free thinking, and other factors, I've come to the conclusion that the God of the Bible did create this world.

      I use the premise of EVOLUTION vs. GOD because that is a common argument among atheists - evolution disproves the existence of God. It's called narrowing the topic. I wrote a Hub or 1300 words, not 13,000 words.

      Every conclusion does, in fact, follows the premise. If you accuse someone of being illogical, please back it up or just be quiet.

      I guess you believe that if someone disagrees with you that is a fallacy. Declaring that all men know God exists is not a Straw Dog fallacy. You don't agree with it, but that does not make it a fallacy.

      Thanks for stopping by to comment though.

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      getitrite 2 years ago

      @Asa,

      Thanks for asking....

      First in your item #1...where you describe the various functions of the body, then conclude immediately that Goddunnit. That's the fallacy of False Dichotomy. You must understand that just because there are things that Science cannot explain, the default position is not God. You want us to assume that there are only two possibilities--EVOLUTION or GOD. Do you not agree that there are other possibilities?

      In item #2 and #3 and #4, Your conclusions do not necessarily follow from your premises. It would be completely illogical to conclude, from the claims that you have made, any evidence for ANY God, and then you go one step further to conclude that THE CREATOR is YOUR God.

      ....Fallacies: 1.Non-Sequitur 2.Appeal to Faith

      In item #5, you stated: "all 'atheists' are lying. They already know God exists. They reveal this in many ways. " I don't know any atheists who already know that God exists. Could you show me one or two? If not, you have created a straw man argument...a misrepresentation. So now you are going to pretend to argue with "atheist " who believe in God, since you just can't accept the reality that Atheism is a lack of belief in a deity. And that there are people who outright reject the belief in God, because there is no evidence to support any Gods. Thanks for redefining us as THEISTS...just like you...but we're just EVIL theists.

      In conclusion, there are way too many fallacies in this article for me to point them out, but I did point out a few, as you asked.

      And finally, this whole article is one giant....ARGUMENTUM AD IGNORANTIAM: A misleading argument used in reliance on people's ignorance.

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      Asa Schneidermann 2 years ago from Boise

      Getitrite- You say I use fallacies. Please give me an example.

      You say, I misrepresent atheism. How? Give me an example.

      All I see is the usual Christianity bashers playbook - shout a bunch of broad accusations, giving no examples, and expect someone takes you at your word.

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      getitrite 2 years ago

      Oztinato, No one said anything about PROOF OF NO GOD. However, the default is to not assume that something exists until it has been proven to exist. Where is your proof? And should I just assume that your God exists--even before you provide ample proof? By that logic, I should also assume that Spider Man exists...shouldn't I?

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      Oztinato 2 years ago from Australia

      The idea of God is expressed with different words languages art etc

      There is no scientific rationale for focusing on trivial differences and seeing this as prood of no God. That approach is irrelevant.

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      getitrite 2 years ago

      I can't see one valid point here that supports the author's claims. What I do see is conjecture, wishful thinking, and confirmation bias, among other fallacies. First, he has not established any logical reason to believe in ANY God, then, secondly, he goes right in to preaching about his Christian God, as if that is the only God possible. Sorry but this is blatant self deception.

      And the vindictive attack on atheism was nothing but a total misrepresentation of atheism.

      Plus, he presented NO EVIDENCE whatsoever to support anything he said. All we learned is that he believes that some ancient book of dubious authors has relevancy in this argument...as if a book that is totally implausible has some relevancy. It certainly doesn't.

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      Asa Schneidermann 2 years ago from Boise

      Agreed. How ironic is it that many scientists claim that the more you study science, the more you realize God does not exist. The Bible says it's just the opposite. The more you study science, the more crystal clear it becomes that God must exist. Atheists go for the very throat of Christianity. They attempt to destroy it at the very foundation.

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      Oztinato 2 years ago from Australia

      Hi

      it is quite obvious that the Universe is Infinitely complex and full of wisdom. Wisdom is a higher form of intellgence.

      The atheist argument that a large explosion was responsible for all of this infinite order and perfection is laughable.

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