Atheists New Arguments
The Garden of Eden
New atheists are here. They are no longer standing back. They are speaking up against organized religion. It is religion that can force its wishes and ideas onto people in different public places. This is no longer true in many places as laws change.
The Atheist argument is that there is no proof that there is a God. There may have been atheists for longer than we think. Many people must have doubted the different religions.
The Druids in England must also have had people that doubted them. They were reported to have human sacrifices. Some probably wanted no part of it.
Because of the way the world is, the atheists see it as being something that a god would not actually allow to be. There are times when many people must wonder what is happening and where is God. To an atheist that time is every day.
Atheists are fed up with organized religion. They do have good reasons. Many of the churches have many ideas that are outdated. They repeat the statements without thinking about what it sounds like. People just do things because they have been taught to do them.
To an atheist it is all something that is in darkness. The church is the darkness of the Middle Ages and they think that its time is over. The Old Testament god is a vindictive god.
If there was a God they think, would he or she not do something to stop all of the bad things that do happen. There is the argument of Darwin and creation. They do not see how God could have created the world in seven days. The Bible is taken apart.
Events that were thought to be true are now seen as being myths more and more. The Bible has been rewritten by people. People that are interested in the truth look at what has been written in the past. They put the facts together. The idea that it is all God's word is a bit hard for some people to take.
For instance, I have just read in a book about angels that the information on the angel that rebelled against God was changed by the early church writers. It said that it was another angel that really started it. They changed it to Lucifer being the one that was guilty. It was from an early Jewish text. It gives one pause for thought. I should add that I am not an atheist myself. I just would like to find out about it.
Things that make people doubt God - wars, natural disasters, sickness, death, 9/11, murder, rape, child abuse and other crimes.
Freedom of Being an Atheist
There is a wonderful freedom to be free of Christian guilt. The whole religion is set up for male dominance. Eve sinned and brought the whole world down or so they say. Women are sinful.
Sin is constantly talked about in religion. The idea that there is really no Hell lets one be free.
I was told by a Jewish girl that the story of Adam and Eve in the garden was a myth. I was really surprised at that.
The Mohawks that are part of my culture did everything they could to keep the priests away. They would bring trouble. It was a religion of death to them.
There is another religion of Wicca to turn to. It has its own problems. It is outdated and can be silly. People have their own problems in Wicca.
With atheism there is no guilt but your own. You are free to do what you want. The rules are rules of society. It may be better than other rules. Atheists still need to follow society's rules of behavior.
Atheists can think on their own. When they are free of the bindings of religion they can begin to explore other ideas.
Ricky Gervais Atheist on TV
- Ricky Gervais the Happy Atheist on Lawrence O'Donnell - YouTube
Lawrence O'Donnell on last word discussing Pat Robertson & Bill O'Reilly's opinions of atheist, juxtaposed with the gregarious opinions of Ricky Gervais.
On Celebrity Atheists
I looked for people for the examples that were really atheists. Some of the lists are a bit unsure of who really is or not.
Keanu Reeves has stated that he is still an atheist.
John Lennon wrote the song "Imagine" about imagining there was no heaven. He is supposed to have said that he was in the 60's. The song was pretty serious. Many people said that he was. There is some doubt as to whether he really was or not. He also leaned towards Buddhism.
Ricky Gervais is on the TV proclaiming himself an atheist. He really liked Jesus as a kid.
Katherine Hepburn announced herself as an atheist in a quote.
Edvard Munch was an atheist. He definitely wanted to be one. It was his idea on how to improve society with atheism and love.
May not really be atheists:
Edgar Allan Poe is on lists as an atheist, but it seems that was just from some evidence, not really meaningful.
Mira Sorvino is on one of the lists for being an atheist but the other picture of her has her wearing a cross. Just because she was upset with Christianity does not mean she is an atheist.
For more people that are famous and atheists see the links to more names.
- 31 Celebrity Atheists - Daniel Radcliffe, Keira Knightley, and other stars who don't believe in God
Not all celebrities are thanking God when they practice their Oscar acceptance speeches.
- 101 Famous Atheists
This is probably the only time you'll ever see Helen Keller and Ray Romano on the same list.
- Top Ten Sexiest Female Celebrity Atheists
Female celebrities that are atheists
History of Atheism
Bosch - Seven Deadly Sins
Christian Church History of Torture and Death
The Christian church has had its problems down through the centuries. In an effort to get rid of people who were not really Christians there have been terrible instances of torture and killing. In the Spanish Inquisition many people were targeted and tortured by the church.
While they were being tortured the attackers would cover the face of Jesus in the statue. It is not really something that will make much sense to modern man.
The burning of witches went on all over the continent of Europe. It went on for over a hundred years. Then it was moved to the United States where it took hold in New England.
In Salem, Massachusetts children accused women of being witches. The courts saw no reason to doubt them and sentenced many to death. It only stopped when the governor's wife was accused.
Sometimes it can really start to take down your faith in the religion to think about what the church has done in the name of religion.
Jesus was a man of peace that would not have done all of that. You wonder where God was and why all of it happened.
The Holy Inquisition and Witch Hunts
- The Horrors of The Church and its Holy Inquisition
The Holy Inquistion prosecution by the church
- Who burned the witches? - Salon.com
For years, feminist scholars have argued that witch hunts were inspired by a reactionary, misogynistic church. But new scholarship, like Lyndal Roper's "Witch Craze," reveals that the real villains were the neighbors.
Old City Jerusalem
It would seem that Atheists are way out on a limb in announcing their beliefs. But are they really? As time passes and there is still no sign of Jesus really returning to Earth, it gets more and more difficult for people to come up with reasons explaining the return. I know the time is far ahead in the future.
When the year 2000 came and went there was a bit of sadness that nothing really happened. There was a website at the gate of Jerusalem waiting for with a webcam watching for Jesus to return. It was a bit tongue in cheek. With the early Christians they had believed that Jesus would return right away or in a hundred years. That helped the faith along a lot. As the years passed, the date was put ahead. The Second Coming is a matter of faith.
That is for some Christians at least. There is still much faith in the religion. Time is infinite and one never knows when Jesus might be coming back. It is just something that one has to believe in. Sometimes one just really wonders what is happening.
With other religions there is also a need to explain to outsiders what is happening. That is even more difficult when talking to an atheist. The atheist can use all sorts of arguments. There is no way that one can really prove the existence of God to science as the world stands now. It does get more and more difficult for people to explain religion now as it stands.
I am not saying I do not still have faith in the Christian religion I was brought up in. The Christian religion has always depended on faith.
My grandmother was an atheist. I always respected her. I think atheists are very brave people. There is a freedom in it.
Atheists feel that there is no God. An agnostic is not sure whether there is one or not. That is just to explain that. I think atheists are always really open to an idea to something else being true. When they ask them what they will say at the pearly gates the answer is, "I didn't think that you were really there." Some are very definite and just don't care, I know.