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Cemeteries, I Mean Seminaries - Allies of the Enemy!

Updated on November 21, 2017

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Youth In - Wisdom OUT!

Probably the most notable change within our congregations over the last 40 to 50 years is the advent of a massive youth movement and the required "holy men" (youth pastors) needed to be trained for the new, up-to-date version of the American church. Where in the world would this idea have originated? It is surely contrary to the Word and is evidenced by the dismal state we see within our local congregations, for example:

  • Per 1 Timothy 3:6-7, a leader within the local body is NOT to be a "novice" Gr. neophutos = newly instructed, "..lest he become lifted up with pride...moreover he MUST have a good report of them which are without, lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil." It takes time and experience to qualify, for one must interact with the unbelieving segment of our society on more than an occasional basis to be known of them and of good report.
  • Per Titus 2:1-6, it is the older men who are to exhort the younger men and the aged women are to teach the younger women to love their husbands and their children. Ever notice how the older people of the "church" have been isolated away from the main congregation and have almost no input into lives other than their own age group? It has become the inexperienced youth teaching our children how to behave in a more acceptable way with the world that they "may better reach others for Christ". Now how is that playing out these days? Let's see: 1) immodestly in dress and language is in the toilet; 2) out of wedlock pregnancies by children of Christian homes has soared; 3) a very high percentage of the youth abandoning any meaningful fellowship with other believers and 4) leaving behind fractured and hurting parents, families and friends.

Why is it that the two books of Timothy and that of Titus, which are known as the "pastoral epistles", are seldom preached from the pulpit and so often totally ignored when it comes the local churches leadership and the "programmes" it chooses to pursue? If it was only a few churches that had adopted this youth movement style it would be of little concern but it has infected most every congregation in America. To answer the question: if one was really to study, teach and apply these three small epistles within their own congregations; 1) it would be contrary to that which most every bible college and seminary in this country has instilled into their "professional" leadership training disciplines and 2) not many want to study too deeply for then they would have to make actual life-changing decisions as to "Church-life". We do have evidence that demands a verdict:

  • We invite all the unsaved young people we can muster to join our precious, Christian value raised children to have personal fellowship on a regular basis. The logic (man's) being that they being exposed to "Christian" surroundings will convict them of their sin. God's Word on the other hand states in 1 Corinthians 15:33 - "Do NOT be deceived - bad company corrupts good morals." NASB In all my life I have never seen a clean person walk through a mud puddle and the mud puddle was cleaner with the effort.
  • What ever happen to 2 Corinthians 6:17 - "...come out from among them, and be ye SEPERATE, saith the Lord..."? Our thoughts and ways are very contrary to God's way.

No matter how UNSUCCESSFUL the efforts are, they keep trying to adapt more and more of the latest, hottest gimmicks to attract the unsaved, convince our youth that this is the "way" and all the while trying to assure the parents, that the leadership knows best.

Remember, the pathway to hell is paved with good intentions!

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I Pray It Is Not Too Late!

We Of All People Should NOT Be Found Guilty Of Sitting Back Until It Is Too Late
We Of All People Should NOT Be Found Guilty Of Sitting Back Until It Is Too Late | Source

Pray For Your Pastors, You Have NO Idea!

Think about this for a second: we send our very young and very inexperienced sons away to be trained in the disciplines of being a pastor one day. Day one: who do they come upon? Usually much older men that seem wise beyond their imaginations and ready to shape their lives for a future as a professional holy man. They stare in awe of such gained intelligence and like every other person in the world they will be drawn to many of those with whom they will submit their youthful energy to "copy" such a role model. Here lies the problem:

  • Do you really know the beliefs of their professors and if their values do meet that which you personally sought to instill in your own child?
  • Do you believe that after 4 or so years of fairly isolated and intense training, that the core values you hold were being upheld and faithfully strengthened by those now "educating" them?

If so, I have some waterfront property for sale outside of Las Vegas I would like to sell to you at a very reasonable price. My own personal experience with a "now" professor of a very prestigious seminary was that he was "too intellectual" of a pastor to let his talents be used on something so mundane as a small congregation. No need for the story but I would do everything in my power to help my child circumvent ever being in any class taught by that individual. Yet, every year dozens or more sit under his teachings, some of which are questionable at best.

Now imagine this: hundreds if not thousands of inexperienced young men being unleashed upon the "church" world every year with certain values instilled as to their vision of the "perfect" church; such as:

  • You are the professional, you know best. The direction of the church must meet your criteria and you should have the last word on any subject.
  • Remember, you have been trained in the languages and in preaching/teaching disciplines; your flock has not. Make sure you keep the distinction very clear.
  • To succeed you must seek the largest untapped market, youth. Adapt your music, your mode of dress, your messages and the congregational events to target this group.
  • Choose your non-trained leadership well, to accept your direction and to support you in your endeavor.
  • You are the only trained counselor and true teacher of the Word, so adapt your age group bible studies, if any, to use appropriate extra-biblical resources that you espouse.
  • Whatever may transpire, do not be afraid to ask someone who questions your positions or doctrines to either get in line with the program or quietly leave so as to not disturb the rest of the fellowship.

Sadly, we the congregation, are all too culpable in this scenario.

We seemingly and blindly follow, leaving all the doctrinal issues, counseling and discipline up to the pastor or pastoral staff. We have created for ourselves an atmosphere of sheep who follow a goat with a bell hung around its neck. We can't counsel, we haven't been trained; we don't want to get mixed up with any discipline issues; the pastor needs to visit all the infirmed, the dying and those with marriage or serious family issues. Listen, we show up on Saturday, Sunday or whenever, we have done our part; pastor you do your part.

Do you realize how many gifts God has given the members of any one assembly? Why do they lie greatly dormant? It is because, we like frogs have been slowly boiled over the years and we have become largely spectators versus participants. It appears to me in these LAST days there is a stirring of an awakening with the Church of God. Pastors have two main responsibilities: FEED the flock and to expose false doctrine. Pastor's are to be shepherds and I believe in the principle that shepherds do NOT make sheep; sheep make sheep. Feed the flock and you will have youth and oldsters coming to Christ because the sheep are healthy and producing fruit as our Lord ordained us from the beginning. Also in today's world of the internet and social media, heresy is rampant: why are the pulpits committed to limiting their preaching to kindergarten level Christianity but seemingly being averse to addressing the heresies their members are drowning in as they search the new social media? James 3:1 - a day of accountability is coming.

Pray for your pastors and leadership to wake up and smell the coming fire upon mankind. We need revival from within, separation from that which is contrary to the Word of God and sense of urgency! Let us be found faithful.


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      David Campbell 2 years ago from Winlock, Washington

      You and I both know that a lot of "good" young men had the greatest of intentions, but were waylayed by the "system" and being very impressionable came away blinded from the Truth. There are some, few not many, that did not buy their educators propaganda but are now actively working very hard to right the sinking ship. I believe it is a little too late for any specific "organization" but not too late for individual believers of the same mindset to begin to make a difference. We may not see it in my lifetime but persecution will be the catalyst that will cleanse the Church; as Jesus stated - they hated Me, they WILL hate you. Thanks for the encouragement. May God bless.

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      KingdomCome 2 years ago from those of the Ecclesia

      The70thWeek- good article. Thank you for writing this and sharing it with us. The subject of the article is just one of many reason that I have NO trust whatsoever of church clergies. Their theological study. training and degrees, as far as I'm concernd are completely worthless.

      God bless

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      David Campbell 2 years ago from Winlock, Washington

      Well written and I am glad that I am not alone in seeing that the "institutional church" is watering down the message to appeal to the masses and making the Gospel of Christ become or appear as something it is NOT.

      When I stated that "we need revival from within" I should have been succinct for I was not speaking of the church per se but of true believers only. I will have to edit my writing to make that point more clear, thanks again, I have been greatly encouraged. May God bless!

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      Rich Kelley 2 years ago from The Ekklesia

      Thanks for your article and statements on what you have seen in your years of following after Christ.

      “known as the "pastoral epistles"

      Paul wrote the two messages to the individuals he wrote them to not to support the man made pastoral system. (it wasn’t around then) The institutional church has done what the Pharisees of the NT were doing. They would cut and paste scripture (OT) to make their doctrines of men, ignoring the context of what was written. It was first started as the oral law, then later that oral law was written down. Then because it was written down it was thought to be law. Much like the man made statements of faith that ALL churches seem to have.

      “gimmicks to attract”

      Today much of what goes on in the churches of men is a gimmick of one kind or another. Youth ministries are a babysitting facility for young people that have convinced the adults they are special and different and need someone to tell them what they want to hear. Today those in the chosen positions of example are all echo platforms for those they should be mentoring. They learn to tell them what they want to hear with a “Christian” bent on their message. Similar to what you said, you can pour a gallon of distilled water in a mud puddle and it is still a mud puddle.

      “Do you really know the beliefs of their professors”

      I’ll add pastors and anyone placed in a position of leadership by the “church” guidelines. Most older men today (elders) are told to sit down and shut up, that is not the way things are done now.

      “Why do they lie greatly dormant?”

      Because without the certification paper to hang on the wall from man’s institute of higher learning you could not possibly have anything to say that would be worth cultivating.

      “we need revival from within”

      On the surface this sounds good but scripture points out a great falling away not a revival. Like the mud puddle becoming a bottle of distilled water it is just not going to happen. I’ve left enough institutional churches to know that it just takes one principle from the life of Christ to brand you as a; militant, not really saved, deceived, needing prayer time, etc. When they start calling you brother instead of the name that they know you by, it is like your mother calling you by your first middle and last name, you know you are in trouble.

      Again thanks for your thoughts they should be said because there may be just one person that thinks and is aware of what you have written but just needs to hear it from a fellow believer in Christ.

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      David Campbell 2 years ago from Winlock, Washington

      I have been a Christian for nearly 48 years and for 20+ years I have seen and heard so many such as yourself saying much of the same things. The voice of those who are sorely disappointed with the horrible "status quo" that we find filling this country's "churches" is growing louder by the day. Hebrews 12 speaks of a shaking so that which cannot be shaken will remain and I believe this is what is happening now. I attend a local church but avoid the main "services" as much as possible. I do find it interesting that there are more people who feel this same way but don't know how to find the like-minded fellowship apart from the small bible classes held there. There are many who attend the classes but do not "go to church" per se. I do believe that if the Lord does tarry a little longer, persecution will drive the real believers to meet together because they truly NEED each other and the current church buildings will become community centers, offices, etc. We all need a servants heart and the lost need us now. May God bless.

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      charlie 2 years ago from From Kingdom of God living on Planet earth. between the oceans

      good article but I believe it is too late for the "church system".

      I believe God has removed His presence from among them because they do not serve Him but men. They are corrupt to the core. but even more importantly their structure and methods are far from scripture.

      God is going to do as he did a few years ago but in a greater and far reaching manner. Tilton, Swaggert, Larry Lea and more were exposed and it starting now. The most evil person claiming to represent Christ publicly is being investigated and hopefully will be sent to prison for his horrible misrepresentation of Christianity. You will reap what you sow Joel Osteen.

      We are about to enter a period where many who have been in the wilderness with God will be released by the Holy Spirit with the Spirit and power that belongs to those who follow Jesus. When these unheard of men start appearing out of seemingly nowhere, not interested in money or buildings or a name or following for themselves or pomp, but LIVING the Christian life, pointing the people ONLY TO CHRIST, teaching scriptural truths that people do not want to hear, but the SIGNS ARE FOLLOWING them, things will be upset and people will want to hear. When the sick and maimed are being healed, the worst of men are being born again and their lives are being changed they will recognize the difference and those truly belonging to Christ will come out of the churches of men to find these men of God . There will be no missing that they are sent of God and not of man. There will be many unhappy people as they SEE that they have been raped and pillaged by the men from " the churches of man".

      When they see men that UNDERSTAND and follow scripture as TRUE SERVANTS OF ALL, it will surely confuse them at first , but the those that have eyes to see will see and understand that God is moving on the earth. These men live to serve God and it will be evident by their actions, instead of receiving they are givers. Freely we have received, freely we give and the most important thing give is their lives to those who have eyes to see and ears to hear.

      Come Lord Jesus ,release your servants on the earth.

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