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Daniels visions Act Three

Updated on June 25, 2010

Daniels Visions Act Three

Daniels visions Part three

I know that Daniel chapter 9 is next in line, but for the purpose of staying one track minded, I’ll be discussing Chapters 11 and 12.

11:1 “Also in the first year of Darius the Mede …For reasons that I will explain when we review chapter 9, we can identify this to be indicating that this vision was received in 538 BC.”

It would be making a short story very long if I were to attempt to explain this chapter verse by verse, so I will be summarizing the pertinent information.

11:2 “… Behold there shall stand up yet three kings in Persia; and the fourth shall be far richer than they all; and by his strength through his riches he shall stir up all against the realm of Grecia.”

After this

1:3 “And a mighty king shall stand up, that shall rule with great dominion, and do according to his will.”

1:4 “And when he shall stand up, his kingdom shall be divided toward the four winds of heaven , and not to his posterity,..”

As mentioned earlier, When Alexander died his kingdom was divided to his four Generals.

The next twenty seven verses describe battles that break out among the four smaller kingdoms that Greece was divided into.

11:31 “………. and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.”

Every theologian and interpreter of scripture that I have ever heard of agrees that when Artexexerus sacrificed a pig on the alter in 160 AD, this prophesy was fulfilled.

According to these same theologians and interpreters, the remainder of this chapter is fulfilled within the timeframe of the fourth kingdom upon the earth (The Roman Empire). 11:45 would have to be speaking of when the Little Horn of the fourth kingdom comes to his end.

For my purposes it is not necessary to detail exactly where in this chapter that the transfer of dominion shifts from Greece to the Roman Empire. The Little Horn comes to his end in 11:45. 12:1 “At that time shall Michael stand up, the great Prince which standeth for the children of thy people; and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time; and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book. And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake,…”

It is said that Michael shall stand up for the children of thy people . These were the 12,000 of each of the twelve tribes of Israel, that are to be the first fruits redeemed from among man. The blemish less first fruits that are redeemed unto the Lord. This does NOT say that Michael will redeem the adopted children of Christ. This verse is speaking of the children of Daniels people who were, every one a Hebrew.

12:4 But thou, O Daniel shut up the words and seal the book, even to the time of the end; many shall run to and fro and knowledge shall be increased. I believe that this verse is talking about knowledge concerning both scripture and prophesy. There is no greater knowledge and wisdom to be had than this. This is not referring to modern technology as interpreters of scripture would have us to believe.

At this time Daniel sees two others, each standing on each side of the river, One of these ask a third who was standing on the waters of the river; "How long shall it be to the end of THESE wonders?" This is not addressing the end of all prophesy! The question was only in reference to THESE things that had just been discussed. The answer was ..." that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

Daniel did not understand. The Man which stood upon the waters rephrased his earlier comment; "from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

I understand this to indicate that a time, times and a half is another way of saying 1290 days. I also understand this to be saying that ; "When he accomplishes to scatter the power of the holy people" is the same thing as taking away the daily sacrifice.

There is much revealed when we examine what is not said. This verse does not say that the sacrifice is made non existent or totally done away with. This says that they will be taken away, as in taken to another place. The power of the holy people will be scattered among the rest of the Roman Empire.

I have said this numerous times, This happened when Hadrian Died. In 135 AD after Hadrian’s’ armies put down the last Jewish revolt, He began deporting all of the Hebrew Nation through out the rest of the Roman Empire, From that time their daily sacrifices were performed in a strange land. The power of the holy people was scattered.

Hadrian died in 138 AD. At that time Michael stood up for the children of Daniels people. At that time the 144,000 saints that had received the mark of their Lord upon their heads were redeemed unto the God of heaven as written in Revelation. And many of those that slept in the dust of the earth.

This can not be talking about the First resurrection as written in the book of Revelation. As we examine the written word of prophesy, as they are actually written, we will find this to be true. We can not just group these prophesy all together as if they are all to be fulfilled within a short period of time 2500 years after they were given. If these prophesy was not concerning that Hebrew Nation that they were given to, why would they have been bothered having to hear of them. That is not how the Lord has been known to work up to this point in history.                    These prophesy was given to those Hebrew peoples, that ceased to exist as a Nation in 135 AD.

To be continued Next chapter we examine Daniel chapter Nine


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    • Jerami profile image

      jerami 7 years ago from Houston tx

      I.E. thanks for stopping by and especially or your question.

      That isn't the conclusion that I want anyone to get.

      I think that we are included.

      I'm just saying that "religion" doesn't save.

      And it hasn't been teaching what is written in prophesy.

      Christians today are not included in the prophesy that have already been fulfilled. Such as the first vial or bowl judgment. That one was the bubonic plague which broke out in the mid 13Th century.

      I believe that the sixth vial was poured out after WW1


      If all of this is correct the first resurrection has already happened.

      And from that time forward when a person dies in the Lord, they go straight to heaven. They do not have to wait for a resurrection. Rev. 13:14

      The word that "follows" was translated from in this instance was only used in scripture when referring to following Christ to where he goes.

      Yes !! Christians are included into the mix.

      But we have missed the worst of the really bad stuff described in prophesy. No GREAT tribulation that Jesus said that "that generation" will have to endure.

      Salvation is ours, and anyone else's that accepts the invitation. And I don't think just Christians.

      All GOD's children ... I think.

      Non believers ? Maybe and maybe not. We will "all" be judged and held accountable, and be rewarded appropriately. What that means I do not know?

      But we are all included in prophesy as yet unfulfilled.

      I'm only attempting to express what I think what is written while making every attempt to not inject my interpretation upon them.

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      Julie Grimes 7 years ago from Columbia, MO USA

      Hey kiddo, boy am I sorry I haven't read this hub sooner!

      So tell me something, do you honestly think that Christians aren't included in the mix? Do you think we have to be Jewish for Michael to include us? Very interesting stuff here.

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      jerami 7 years ago from Houston tx

      Loves To Read As always it is good to see YA.

      I hope that you enjoy the read and if you find where I have gone astray by misreading something in Daniel that you would bring this to my attention.

      I think that misinterpretation is the root of all confusion where scripture is concerned.

      I to find myself grasping onto misinterpretations from time to time.

      I'm trying to quiddit, but that is hard to do.

      Thanks again for stopping by.

      I visit yours from time to time, I'll start saying "HAY" to ya more often.

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      Loves To Read 7 years ago

      Very good hub Jerami. A lot of food for thought. I had better go back to your first hub in this series.

      Thank you for sharing

      God Bless

    • Jerami profile image

      jerami 7 years ago from Houston tx

      Thanks Michael

      Thanks for stopping, and reading, and for your gracious compliment.

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      Michael Adams1959 7 years ago from Wherever God leads us.

      Very well put together, glad to read your work, A lot of people can learn from this if they will read it and study it out.