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Dear Christians Enough Of Your Rules

Updated on April 16, 2013

Which person here casts a stone upon this man. Who of you is pure enough to Judge?

He cannot hold the thought of Christ long enough in his head. So my brothers would condemn him for not accepting Christ.
He cannot hold the thought of Christ long enough in his head. So my brothers would condemn him for not accepting Christ. | Source

But I see my brothers and sisters put such a yoke on others that I must speak.

As all know I am a lawyer by trade, education and experience. But I cannot practice for I accept direction not to. But I know it and have abused it as Saul was ready to do on the road to Damascus, he also was a trained lawyer knowing who to prosecute/persecute under the Law given by God.

So I write to you Americans to say to keep up the good fight. To maintain discipline in your number. But to stop this looking for those who are not modern day circumcised. To stop looking for differences and trying to apply law to exclude others unlike you.

My friend fought the good fight 2000+ years ago to get Peter and the Sanhedrin and the other legal morons, to accept the gentile that did not follow the law. Some split as now and demand a strict adherence as opposed to a Gospel of Love.

I have never met a sane man that declared that Jesus spoke to him and told him to reject a brother.

We Christians are no longer called to enforce God's will on others. Those crazy men of the crusades are long gone and buried and we have never met another that claimed to be their progeny. We are not necessarily free of the Law but we are for certain no longer charged with enforcing it.

We are charged in no uncertain terms to honor the Love that Christ gave to us:

John 27-30

Jesus said:
“My sheep hear my voice;
I know them, and they follow me.
I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish.
No one can take them out of my hand.
My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all,
and no one can take them out of the Father’s hand.
The Father and I are one.”

How can anyone interpret that as demanding that they themselves put further restrictions on God's Law? It is right back to the pharisees. Coming up with requirements that would separate these lambs from whom declared them saved. Like stupid sheep He does not require a parade of even a baptism or even a proclamation from His sheep. "NO One can take them out of the father's hand"

There is no if, but or when here. Christ decides who His Sheep are not man. Silly man would crucify the sheep as a threat to their Sanhedrin.

So this man Accepts Christ in a way foreign to you, do you decide if he accepted Christ: right?

My brothers would convict and condemn this man if he accepted Christ in the form of Love and did not utter the name. Nice in their comfy offices.
My brothers would convict and condemn this man if he accepted Christ in the form of Love and did not utter the name. Nice in their comfy offices. | Source

I have been exposed to the law and to legalism.

But thank my savior that as Saul, now Paul, I have been struck blind to the law and open to the glorious love that pervades my every fiber. My people do not follow my interpretation or even my preaching they follow love and have more bounty than any law could ever give.

The man is gay, uncircumcised and doubts God loves him. This man is my Lord's sheep, he is also a lamb. Can he possibly be left in the field with the wolves? Let God do with him what he will but I will love him and welcome him, in my home.

No man pounding on a podium or trying to scare me with eternal damnation can stop me from loving you. No person can quote scripture and convince me that children go to hell, or that raped women are adulterers.

This song says much. When will we ever learn. Stop looking at others and trying to save them, with words and rules. Love them and they shall be saved.

Let bring it all home. Are you empty enough of love for your brothers and sisters that you have room to yoke them?

I am a crazy happy guy. I got more than I need or even want (do not tell my wife) I got family in the stratosphere that love me and mine. I got an easy going pastoral calling. My bills are all paid. I did bring some home grown roses from my garden around the neighbors the last few days. And got some fruit to feed my boy, wife, nephew and me. I had some extra time, not really. I got two blankets from AmVets and gave them away.

I do not have the stinking time to judge my enemy, Hell's bells and cocker shells I ain't got time to love him first, properly that is. I am trying my best. And if I get some more free time ------ I reckon I could use it writing down some rules as to what it means and qualifies you to be saved. I do not think so.

I call Bull! I just read through all 13 pages of my contract with God, and doing rules and judging just is not in there.

I hope you consider this and decide if you are to draw lines in the sand and throw stones. As for me and mine we are busy loving and forgiving each other. You spend your time as you please.

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      Eric Dierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      I wondered what the problem was, thank you for clarifying Lady. It does seem oxymoronic that we would have all the ritual rules and disregard the Greatest Commandments, that are pure and simple.

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      Debra Allen 4 years ago from West By God

      Rayne, No, the point was for Cel and I am sorry that I didn't make that clearer. If a person, who puts himself on a pedestal so that he would be closer to God, can't love like it is stated in that Bible then, per his words, is not a TRUE Christian. Those laws that Jesus spoke were for everyone, not just the elite that some think they have or are.

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      Rayne123 4 years ago

      Once again your point makes no sense, when I said I enjoy reading and receiving what sometimes is a message to me, it has nothing to do with not listen to the words of Jesus.

      Sometimes I am led there.

      I dont get why you used the neighbor thing as an example

      I am the last person that would not be kind. Sorry but missing the point

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      Debra Allen 4 years ago from West By God

      point noted

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      Rayne123 4 years ago

      Hi Lady, what do you mean "me also" i dont listen to him, I listen to Gods words and enjoy reading hubs that sometimes do or dont have messages

      I dont get why you said that sorry

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      Eric Dierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      LG, careful there, lest you go down their path of deciding who is and who isn't.

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      Debra Allen 4 years ago from West By God

      Rayne, gag me with a spoon! I am not hurting him only his Pride and you know what that does don't you? It states it clearly in the Bible--Pride Goeth Before A Fall.

      You also don't listen to the words of Jesus but of a clergy. I believe it says clearly to "LOVE THEY NEIGHBOR AS THYSELF" You and he show nothing of that, which means..........you are not TRUE Christians.

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      SwordofManticorE 4 years ago from Burlington

      Any clergy who says his belief is the truth, and the rest are false teachings, shows the basic characteristics of a sect.

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      Rayne123 4 years ago

      Oh yes you are right lady, your words, hurt, pain, lies and shame you cause someone especially a child of God who is a good person will come back to bite you and not one fold but ten.

      I know messages that God led me to and I was shamed however that shame is coming back in public to others so be very careful because God does not and will not go back on his words.

      He has told me more than once.

      I am agreeing with you, mind you he brings up good points, however he says in one sentence that God told him people will attack him for spreading Gods words as Jesus was attacked. However Cel no one is attacking you at all, you are the one always attacking everyone else for what they believe in.

      There are lots of good answers, but the one we all agree on(the ones living for Christ and his word, Christians) is follow what God tells you in your heart, dont believe anyone unless you have the answers from God.

      God always brings me to an answer in different ways, he answers everyone in ways he knows they will deal with it. He talks to everyone differently as we talk to each one of children different as they all have different personalities.

      Sometimes I dont understand God as he knows I get confused so I ask again and actually tell him just to answer me like he did with his disciples. He will sometimes bring me to a picture or somewhere with a a straight answer like a yes or no or yes smile you know it, or good question, as he knows this is easier for me.

      So when you say Cel that we should trust God before man, I think everyone agrees, however like I stated, we just do it in different ways.

      Thank you

      Have a good day

      Laurie

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      Debra Allen 4 years ago from West By God

      Cel, you are NOT the expert here. What religion did you say that you are a clergy for in Florida? Some religions are cults, simple as that and it sounds like you are one of them by the manner in which everyone else is wrong but you. Plus the fact that you will attack anyone who differs with you and you will take them down. Been there done that and you can't do that to me and hopefully others will see your devilish words as well.. Like SOM, I am so glad that I learned the truth and am no longer in a church were they hold anyone under the FEAR of a hell that doesn't exist. Be careful of your words and actions because they will come back to bite you on your backside. God said that he made everythig and everything was good.......so when did it become bad?....It became bad when people, mostly men who want all the power tried to explain what was happening to them thousands of years ago and put them down in a DIARY or JOURNAL.. It was THEIR explanation, not mine or many others. The laws in that Bible from many different time are for those times they lived in. They were also from a select people not everyone. There are countless people who never even heard of books let alone your God.

      Thank God I found the truth that the words of JESUS set me free.

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      SwordofManticorE 4 years ago from Burlington

      Thank God the truth has set me free from church rules.

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      charlie 4 years ago from From Kingdom of God living on Planet earth. between the oceans

      First I need to address the issue of talking to those who profess to be believers and to those who are trying to teach the Word of God. In my answers to the questions and my comments to the articles on here I am addressing what is being taught and that is a scriptural requirement. And on occasion when what is being taught is so far from scripture I may make a judgement based on the article that this person should be avoided because of what they teach being an anethma. The dreaded rule for that would be Galatians 1 vs 6-9 and if it is sexual immorality it is 1 Cor 5 vs 11-13 or any sin 1Cor 6 vs 9-10

      And Eric- I really hesitate to write an answer to this because I know the attack that will follow from all the liberals on here that see what they call love as the answer to everything. And that anything goes. But answer I must, because it is not true that any and everything is acceptable. . If you can believe this is given in love wonderful, but if not , that is ok too. So be it. It is given in Love. Love of Christ and His Word, not the words of man in any way. And as I have said before, true love is saying and doing what is needed, not what is desired. I serve God, not man.

      I cannot, in light of the Words of the Lord Jesus Christ Himself, see this as anything other than a liberal rant. . Your argument is not with the Christians, it is with Jesus Himself. The following are words from MY Lord Jesus Christ(if you believe the bible is God inspired) . No man has the authority to change them or their content.

      Apparently , according to you, we are to discard all scripture that has any requirement attached to it and everyone can decide for themselves how to come to Christ, on THEIR OWN TERMS, irregardless of the terms placed there by my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ himself. And of course according to you all scriptures spoken or written are suggestions only and really are in no way “rules”. And we Christians are to accept EVERYONE as brother, whether they are Christians or not . Wow, you really are deceived.

      I can not ascribe to such a ridiculous and unscriptural notion, nor should anyone professing to be a child of the God of the bible, the creator of ALL things.

      I gladly accept attacks on me because my Lord said that people will attack people like me that stand for what He stands for.

      John 15:20 Remember the word that I said to you, 'A servant is not greater than his master.' If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you.

      2 Peter 2:2 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. 2 And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed.

      I have to tell you there are requirements to become a Christian, you call them rules, I see them as they as they are written, requirements that show us how to become a son of God. And they are a necessity

      It is a lie that you can come to God any way that feels good to you as you have said above.

      Since the Lord my God says that we must be born again and baptized, then we must teach them how to scripturally accomplish this. Call it rules or whatever you wish but it must be done according to the scriptural guidelines. Where in scripture does it give a way to be born again without mentioning the name of the Savior that you are asking forgiveness of, I can not find it. IT does not exist.

      Mark 16:15"Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned. 17 And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; 18 they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover

      No Christian, including me would ever advocate , rejecting a brother, but scripture , that thing that seems to keep getting in the way, tells us who a brother is, it also tells us to stay away from some brothers and it it certainly tells us that brothers get different treatment than non believers.

      And your statement of putting “further restrictions”, is false using the scriptural “rules”is not putting anything “further”, it is expressing the scriptural requirement.

      I definitely and as do other Christians, believe in love toward those outside the Kingdom of God, for whatever reason, but scripture is clear we are NOT to accept their sin in accepting them, we must reject their sin and let them know it.

      No Homosexual or any other person outside of the Kingdom of God is my brother, but they all could be if they follow those terrible enemy of yours, the rules, and be born again into the family of God as a new creation, according to scripture, and the same goes for any other person that is not born again according to scripture and its dreaded rules.

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      Eric Dierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Lady this is a wonderful poem, thank you for sharing it with us.

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      Eric Dierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Thank you Gypsy, for your support.

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      Debra Allen 4 years ago from West By God

      Those who judge, I wrote a poem a while ago about that. I am going to post it here because it isn't posted anywhere else right now and I would love to share it with you all: The Person Sitting Beside You - A Poem

      The Person Sitting Beside You

      Who the person sitting beside you

      when one place to another you must move

      on a subway or bus or in a grocery store

      Someone comes and sits close to you like other times before

      You put up your protective shell

      Like all other times as well

      What are the deep feelings you feel

      Take time right now and your shell you should peal

      To see just how those others to you relate

      Do they make you feel like some kind of bate

      Or is it you who does the judging

      without you doing the budging

      You think of all the things you've been taught and you start to assume

      are they single, muslim, jewish, or gay and other things that may not be true

      have we become to think and to look at another

      like they were some kind of ugly creature or other

      by only seeing their outside looks

      like what you have been told by that religious book

      Would you be a fellow human

      and extend your hand

      with a smile just for a litle while or a few seconds

      Come on now your soul becons.

      Do you really know if that other person,

      is a friend or foe or just a human version,

      of an Angel that you are unaware,

      put in your path to make you more aware

      Of the things you think and what you do,

      To the Person sitting *inside* of you.

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      Gypsy Rose Lee 4 years ago from Riga, Latvia

      Voted up. God be with us now and always. We were meant to love and offer support to one another. God bless.

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      Eric Dierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      mudpiemagnet,

      Your point is excellent and really not complicated. A Christian deals with two types of judgment. 1. Final Judgment -- which is all God. 2. human judgment which is all human. How fast to travel, how far something is, how much it weighs are all judgment based. Also "do I want this person watching my child?" is judgment. Is he guilty of a man made law - normal judgment.

      So we must judge our brothers in human judgment.

      Some folks claim they make no judgment that is weird -- who dresses them, how do the walk up stairs, and why do they use that shampoo?

      Thanks for bringing up a very valid point.

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      Eric Dierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      SoM, much of this hub was inspired by your writings. I thank you for keeping my eyes open.

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      Eric Dierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      MsDora, I really like that -- get out of the way! Thanks much

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      mudpiemagnet 4 years ago

      Are there really Christians who believe that a raped woman is an adulterer, and such? Scary!

      Just to freak you out, and for the sake of argument...Is it ok to judge people who judge? Or should we leave that one to God as well? Complicated!

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      Eric Dierker 4 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Lady, Why do we humans make it so complicated? To me it is the most amazing fact. Nothing can separate us from His love. Thank you for reading and uplifting a fellow Christian it means much to me.

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      Dora Isaac Weithers 4 years ago from The Caribbean

      Eric, you came through loud and clear. We are not" called to enforce God's will on others." There is only one Holy Spirit, and we need to get out of His way.

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      Debra Allen 4 years ago from West By God

      Great words Eric. I agree with you that it is not our place to judge anyone, no matter if one agrees with them or not. You are right about them being in God's hands and God never leaving them and they can't leave God. It's all a ruse when people say that they chose to leave God when in fact you can't and it states that in the verse that you used. Thanks for this hub.

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      SwordofManticorE 4 years ago from Burlington

      Awesome hub Eric. Though I have known about the powers of perfect love now for a while, it is hubs like this that keep me in check and remind me of the directions in life I choose to follow. Not because someone says I have to, it is because I choose to in love. Eric, you know I am not one to compliment opinions, but I want to thank you for this hub. God be with you friend.