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Do We Have Angry Religions, Or Angry People?

Updated on January 21, 2016

This past year has been has been full of news stories relating to violence committed by self-proclaimed religious people/leaders. There is no shortage of such stories, whether it has been extreme Christians going on a rampage, like the man who shot one police officer and two civilians, on November 28th at the Planned Parenthood building, in Colorado, or the deranged Muslim man with his wife who went berserk shooting people in San Bernardino, California.

We had our own lunatics here in Canada this past year, with one confused, angry man shooting a soldier on Parliament Hill then, getting in a shoot-out with police inside the Parliament building. Meanwhile, in other parts of the world things are even worse. Attacks based on religious beliefs are happening from South-east Asia, to the Middle East, to Africa, to Australia and to Europe.

The one striking commonality with all such cases is that the people involved in the attacks are claiming to be doing the work of one God, or another. Well, if we are to believe these people, God seems to just want us to keep killing one another: the Muslim God wants Christians heads cut off, the Christian God wants Muslims subjugated, on and on we go. Of course, this is all nonsense.

Fazlur Rahman writes in his book titled “Islam”: “Indeed, the most intense impression that the Qur’an leaves upon a reader is not a watchful, frowning, and punishing God, as the Christians have generally made it out to be, nor of a chief judge as the Muslims legalists have tended to think, but of a unitary and purposive will creative of order in the universe”.

This I think is where the problem lies: our interpretation of Sacred texts. If the person doing the interpreting is an angry person, the portrayal of their understanding of any one religion, will be angry. Thus, their actions will be angry/violent as well. An angry person can turn a trip to Disneyland into a scene of terror. I do not think we can blame religious texts.

I stop and think, what happened to: “To us belongs nothing, O Jehova, to us belongs nothing, But to your name give glory According to your loving-kindness, according to your trueness”? Loving-kindness...

Christian fundamentalists scream that they want their America back. Muslim fanatics want a Caliphate. Fools, nothing belongs to You! ... They do not see that though. Their egos are bursting out of their bodies. They plunder and use God’s name in vain, over and over. Their anger and hatred blinds them. Pay no attention to what they say, they’re mad and lost their pebbles.

This is the mistake we should not follow: blame religions for the deeds of a handful of delusional, misguided and angry people. There are 7.4 billion people on this Planet and while it is true that a handful of lunatics can take over our news cycle, let’s not let them take over our lives, our good will and good composure. We are One people, on One planet.

(The photo is Spirit Whisperer's photo of a statue I saw at an antique shop, when I visited him. I tried finding out who it is but the best I got was: "Some African Deity")

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    • Mr. Happy profile imageAUTHOR

      Mr. Happy 

      2 weeks ago from Toronto, Canada

      Thank You so much for passing by Mr. Saisarannaga! I'm happy You're still around. I wish You're doing well!

      I have not written much myself lately either. Soemtimes we need a break, haha!! All the best to You, Sir! : )

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      Saisarannaga 

      2 weeks ago

      How nice to read your wise posts? I have stopped writing long ago and hence I am not aware what is happening in hubpages! Has written more than 1000 posts. Felt it is over!

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      Mr. Happy 

      2 weeks ago from Toronto, Canada

      I did not know the "One Tin Soldier" song but it's pretty neat! : )

      Thank You for sharing that Mrs. Shenko and thank You for taking the time to stop by and for leaving a comment as well. All the very best to You!

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      Shyron E Shenko 

      2 weeks ago from Texas

      Mr. Happy, an interesting article, good writer. Here is what I believe.

      I believe the good (i.e. knowing what is right) in most people, outweighs the evil in all people and I don’t believe that any religion teaches violence/hatred/anger.

      I believe in a God who is compassionate, loving, kind and forgiving and true Christians do not condone subjugation of anyone.

      The paragraph below reminds me of the song “ One Tin Solder”

      Go ahead and hate your neighbor,

      Go ahead and cheat a friend.

      Do it in the name of heaven,

      You can justify it in the end.

      There won't be any trumpets blowing,

      Come the judgment day,

      On the bloody morning after

      One tin soldier rides away.

      The one striking commonality with all such cases is that the people involved in the attacks are claiming to be doing the work of one God, or another. Well, if we are to believe these people, God seems to just want us to keep killing one another: the Muslim God wants Christians heads cut off, the Christian God wants Muslims subjugated, on and on we go. Of course, this is all nonsense.

      It may seem that there are more evil and violent people, religious or not because law abiding people are not news worthy.

      Blessings My dear friend

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      Jay C OBrien 

      4 months ago from Houston, TX USA

      I agree, humans wrote the scripture. Humans may therefore adopt new scripture, a better depiction of God. For this purpose, I offer the following article.

      https://hubpages.com/religion-philosophy/Motion-to...

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      Mr. Happy 

      4 months ago from Toronto, Canada

      Sorry Mr. O'Brien, I read your comment and did not respond because I took me some time to think about your comment about "I wonder why "Scripture" which depicts the God/Ideal as a Violent, Jealous, Killer even exist."

      The best answer I can come-up with is: Humans. Scriptures are written by Humans. As I just commented on another article about morality, the Lakota people of the United States call God, Wakan Tanka. The translation roughly is "The Great Mystery".

      No human knows what God is. Nobody has sat down at dinner with God, to talk things over. I do not believe there is no God. There is more to this three dimensional perspective, which most of us experience daily.

      Some people have had glimpses, or visions, or insights beyond what our regular perception allows. I myself am a Seer, as my grandmother was. I can't rule out that Mohammed did not have dreams, or visions which he thought were from the Great Spirit. What I can say though, is that the Holy Qu'ran, just like the Bible, were written by Humans and as one of my philosophy professors used to say: "Humans have clay feet." We don;t always walk steadily and we often mess things up. Violence in Holy books is a way to control the masses. The Gods have no need to control Humans and they could get Humans to act one way, or another without putting threats in books.

      All speculation but all in all, I think it is a matter of controlling the masses easier.

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      Jay C OBrien 

      5 months ago from Houston, TX USA

      "It is indeed obvious to many people that violent, crazy acts cannot be blamed on one book, or another but the responsibility lies with those who do the deed, so to speak. Yet, to many others as the first comment shows, believe that if we blame religions, or abolish them, violence will somehow go away. It's beyond me how angry people will go away without certain religions but hey ... it's where we are at."

      Though I agree with you I wonder why "Scripture" which depicts the God/Ideal as a Violent, Jealous, Killer even exist. People who are attracted to such "Scripture" and actually believe them have emotional problems. I think it is time for the seminaries to renounce a Violent God officially.

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      Mr. Happy 

      8 months ago from Toronto, Canada

      I am happy You enjoyed the read Mrs. Raymond. I appreciate You taking the time to leave a comment. All the best and happy holidays! : )

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      Claire Raymond 

      8 months ago from UK

      I love your message, we tend to let the horrible people take over. But we really shouldn't.

    • Ericdierker profile image

      Eric Dierker 

      9 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Thanks Kenneth == I was getting a little uptight - God speaks to us through Christian friends when we need it.

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      Kenneth Avery 

      9 months ago from Hamilton, Alabama

      Hi, Eric,

      For my part of the discussion, you are very welcome. And I will be glad to go on record to say that Mr. Happy is a very talented writer besides being a well-studied knowledge of the sometimes-ugly areas of our life, but just remember . . .it's all good.

      Stay relaxed. Stay cool.

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      Eric Dierker 

      9 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Thank you Mr. Avery for writing and for Mr. Happy for turning me onto it.

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      Kenneth Avery 

      9 months ago from Hamilton, Alabama

      Mr. Happy:

      You can't go wrong if the truth is doing the driving.

      Cheers back at ya'!

    • Mr. Happy profile imageAUTHOR

      Mr. Happy 

      9 months ago from Toronto, Canada

      Thank You for your comment Mr. Avery.

      I don't really know how to beat around the bush so, more often than not, my writing may seem quite forceful but it's how I am. The Wolf goes for the jugular lol

      I have Love for people though and that's why I get so frustrated when we hurt one another as supposed to help one another. We have a lot of work to do still.

      Thank You again for the kind words. I appreciate it.

      Cheers!

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      Mr. Happy 

      9 months ago from Toronto, Canada

      Greetings Mr. Dierker,

      Thank You so very much for passing-by again. I was actually thinking about You yesterday, while reading Mr. Avery's hub "Meeting the First Televangelist When I Was Just 11". I was wondering what You would say after reading it. Just curious : )

      Regarding "evil" people, I do not think there are any. I think there are many misguided people, some with metal issues (in Canada the statistic is 1 in 3) and others just simply lack ethics, manners and the like.

      The most significant part I think is the guidance part. People are really missing good guidance and this would tie-in with Mr. Avery's hub. You should give it a read, if You have the time.

      Thank You again for taking the time to stop by. All the very best! : )

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      Kenneth Avery 

      9 months ago from Hamilton, Alabama

      Mr. Happy,

      This hub was terrific and nicely-written.

      Very in-depth and to the point. Thanks for writing and sharing such a timely subject.

      Keep up the fine work.

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      Eric Dierker 

      9 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      I am so glad that I followed it as I think I read some time ago and perspective changes. So this was like the first time.

      A fear based hate filled megalomaniac with that crazy charismatic necessity wacko stuff.

      Oh yes psychopaths abound.

      Well I sure like and it made me think. You did good. Hey you are so good you should write an updated. Although I believe that evil and angry don't really get different.

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      Mr. Happy 

      9 months ago from Toronto, Canada

      Thank You for your comment Mrs. Canfield.

      I have managed to learn a little from all sorts of different people, with different backgrounds. So, I have seen the good in many Spiritual texts, be they Hindu, Christian, Islamic, Pagan, etc.

      I continue to think that it is indeed one's attitude and perception of what they read, that forms the understanding of what they read, or listen to. An angry person will turn any happy-ending story into a drama.

      Thanks again and all the best!

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      Nicole Canfield 

      9 months ago from Summerland

      YES. SO MUCH YES TO THIS. Agreed 150%!!!!! They hide behind their ideas of God to justify their hatred and ignorance...it's not GOD or religion that does these evil things...it's angry, hateful ignorant people. Thanks for speaking the truth, Mr. Happy.

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      Mr. Happy 

      2 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      Greetings again Mrs. Shenko,

      Sorry for the delay in the answering, I've been camping : )

      I strongly agree with your comment: angry people will always find a way to try to justify their anger. It's extra sad when they use religions to try to justify their anger and their angry actions. It muddies the Spiritual Path and like You wrote, in the end all this angry talk just turns "people away from God".

      Blessings to You as well! : )

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      Shyron E Shenko 

      2 years ago from Texas

      Mr. Happy an interesting read.

      Religions are not angry. In my opinion, a lot of angry/evil men and a few women band together and call their band a religion to make others think they are sanctioned by God, and the purpose to make others join them, and what they are doing is turning people away from God.

      Blessings to you always my friend.

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      Mr. Happy 

      2 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      Mrs. Cochran, your comment made me laugh: "The Good Old Days? I'll take today any day." - Same here. I fully agree with You.

      On top of which, we cannot go back, nor can we remain as we are. Nothing does. We either learn to adapt, or join the dinosaurs. I've said this so many times, my mouth's about to go dry lol jk

      Cheers and thank You for taking the time to read and leave a comment. : )

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      Mr. Happy 

      2 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      Mr. WingofCyrus, I missed your comment as well, my apology.

      I like your quote: "“I slept with faith and found a corpse in my arms on awakening; I drank and danced all night with doubt and found her a virgin in the morning.” - I do think in Life it is good to investigate and not simply accept what we are told. Critical thinking is needed but then, I'm back to my previous comment to Mrs. Shenko: we need better Education!

      Thank You for your comment.

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      Mr. Happy 

      2 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      Mrs. Shenko,

      I've been slacking on my account here that is true. I only write once in a while now, on specific issues. Keeping up with Hub-pages' structural changes has also been a little too much for me to keep up with.

      I have no panacea for the common man. We need to improve the Education system, that could certainly help. More money for Education and less for bombs, or invading countries. There's a start lol

      Thank You so much for passing by and leaving a comment.

      All the best!

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      Kathleen Cochran 

      2 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

      "Fools, nothing belongs to You!"

      I'm always amazed when people want the past to return. I think they forget the past (in the U.S.) included childhood diseases, a diagnosis of cancer meant you were absolutely going to die soon, approved racial prejudice, condoned abuse of women, lack of safety precautions like seat belts and child car seats, lack of smoke detectors - just to name a few advances we take for granted today. The Good Old Days? I'll take today any day.

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      WingofCyrus 

      2 years ago

      Great topic which raises many questions we "humans" probably wont grow out of, or see ourselves, in many more years to come.

      “I slept with faith and found a corpse in my arms on awakening; I drank and danced all night with doubt and found her a virgin in the morning.”

      What do we have but our own convictions, feelings and good instinct to perceive reality when considering to trust when presented with phenomena stimuli?

      too many people get lost with what one or another thinks, but lack insight into how people feel.

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      Shyron E Shenko 

      2 years ago from Texas

      Mr. Happy,

      I have been wondering where have you gone

      I really miss you

      Its been so long

      And I hope nothing is wrong.

      This is really very telling, I believe that like you said Christian fundamentalists scream that they want their America back.

      Except that the Tea Party conservatives wan to take back control of our country's government for their own power/control so they can plunder and they and their friends can benefit from their position of power.

      Muslim fanatics want a Caliphate.

      What Mr. Happy is the average man/woman suppose to do?

      Blessings and Hugs

      Shyron

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      Mr. Happy 

      2 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      Greetings Mr. Spirit Whisperer,

      "the price we pay when we give our power to think for ourselves to others" - a great observation! Thank You for stopping by.

      Cheers! : )

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      Xavier Nathan 

      2 years ago from Isle of Man

      A thoughtful piece to remind us of the price we pay when we give our power to think for ourselves to others. Most people just want to belong to a group and once they are in they are still not content until they convert other groups or wipe them out! We project what we love and what we hate onto others and then attack our own projections. How insane is this? Thank you Mr Happy for keeping us on our toes!

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      Mr. Happy 

      2 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      Thank You as well Mr. Saisarannaga, for taking the time to read my piece of writing and to leave a comment.

      All the very best! : )

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      Mr. Happy 

      2 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      Greetings Mr. Billybuc,

      It is indeed obvious to many people that violent, crazy acts cannot be blamed on one book, or another but the responsibility lies with those who do the deed, so to speak. Yet, to many others as the first comment shows, believe that if we blame religions, or abolish them, violence will somehow go away. It's beyond me how angry people will go away without certain religions but hey ... it's where we are at.

      Thank You for stopping by - I appreciate it.

      Good Luck to You! : )

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      saisarannaga 

      2 years ago from Chennai in Tamilnadu, India.

      This is the reality today. You have explained it nicely. Beautiful hub.

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      Bill Holland 

      2 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Interesting first comment to this article. I almost see irony in that comment. Anyway, great article. Without reading it my response was "angry people, obviously." After reading the article my response is the same.

      Good to see you writing another article...I always appreciate your point of view.

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      Mr. Happy 

      2 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      Hello Mr. Ericdierker,

      Great to see You again - Happy New Year!

      I am happy You enjoyed the read and thank You for your comment.

      All the very best! : )

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      Mr. Happy 

      2 years ago from Toronto, Canada

      Greetings Mr. Readmikenow,

      You are indeed right, not only Christian fundamentalists scream that they want their America back - there are many First Nations people who also want their "America" back. I am not sure where You were going with that point.

      I am not trying to lump one man with anything: an act of terror is an act of terror and it comes from mad, angry people. That is the point of this piece of writing. Again, what one takes from a Sacred text has more to say about that person than it does about the text. One who cannot read well, may have trouble understanding. One who is angry, will come out with an angry impression - on and on... Re-read the quote from Mr. Rahman, he is a respected scholar, I think he made a good point.

      Either way, I appreciate You taking the time to read and leave a comment. Cheers!

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      Eric Dierker 

      2 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      I like your point. We are talking about individuals here and not religions hating. I have heard haters and their views and it always seems to come down to some personal problem and usually somewhat fear based. Ignorance looks like the main culprit and then some whacko exploiting it.

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      Readmikenow 

      2 years ago

      "Christian fundamentalists scream that they want their America back"...do you really believe this is something only said by Christian fundamentalists? This covers a large spectrum of people from many different walks of life. Trust me, there are even many Jewish people who feel the same way. It is obvious you've never read the Quran or the Hadith and what it commands of its followers. Trying to lump one, lone, disturbed man with the hundreds of acts of terror around the world by Muslims makes you seem to lack the ability to accept reality. Not all Muslims are terrorists, but the vast majority of terrorists are Muslims. This is a fact. Do you know about the Hijrah and how it is described in the Quran? Learn it and then understand what is happening with the Muslim immigrants in Europe. If you want to understand why there are so many Muslim terrorists and why their numbers continue to grown, I suggest you listen to a devout Muslim talk about it. Raheel Raza, president of "Muslims Facing Tomorrow" understands the situation best. She's given many important lectures about it. You need to learn more about this before you make such statements. Your lack of research and understanding is very obvious.

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