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Eiric's Sunday Sermon; Of What God do We Speak?

Updated on October 26, 2016

If I am not mistaken some put titles above relationships.

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Right to the issue of the name.

Well we are quite cognizant of the fact that around here we “think” of God as a God of your relationship. God is not held to a man conceived mold. God does not have to follow rules. It never seemed important here but we reckon that God could not love a particular human. Maybe?

In this home of worship (no not a house) it is well practiced that my wife’s and children’s Lord is not the same as mine. Or perhaps all metaphysically it just might be the same God but we have different universal or cosmic perspectives. Theologically and religiously we are supposed to proclaim one God for all. Shoot I am father and I am not the same father for all my children – how rude, unloving and pompous would that be. Each child is different, even from day to day not to mention decade to decade. My love is different for each child and the half dozen or so I helped to raise as my own. I was adopted and my mom treated me differently than my siblings. To others it might have seemed with less love. Ha Ha what a joke on them. Boy was she nurturing to me. But later she might as well have named me Sue. I think God loves me so she must have done a good job. At gatherings all my 5 siblings and so many other semi-adopted kids have the same story told differently and sometimes we argue lovingly. Same mom. Same Holy Father. It really reminds me of two truths.

Take a husband and wife and give them cameras and take them on a tour of Italy. Oh my their stories are not really the same. Yet they are. My favorite of all times are the 4 Gospels. They are so cool. Same story yet different versions and perspectives from closest to that one given the most authority to an historian to a great writer. How cool is that, like a 360 degrees 3D view. All we are required to do is open our hearts and our minds.

I have been studying this gal for years and as hard as I try I cannot separate her God from mine.

Maybe I am irreverent. Cool, go ahead and condemn see how well that works for you.

Don't look at me!! I do not control your love or how you worship by name or otherwise.
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Never met a human that condemns that has a more loving life.

Now we look at the notion of names. We are well advised to call our Lord by the name that best opens our hearts to our Lord. Way back in a book called Genesis there is this story where a child of God is instructed to instruct others the name “I am” is the name of their Lord. This concept is way deep, but I suspect instructional or at least a direction to more thought. Here is the theological, linguistic philosophy concept. If I call you “I” well it is me that calls you I and therefor I that I am referring to. Take it easy please it is not that complicated. Note this concept of God did not say to call Him “you am”. Trippy. So just by this utterance the people were invited to call God “I am”. Kind of like all of us being a part of God. Well welcome to the party of love. Leave your drinks, notions and covers at the door please.

If I say I am and you say I am, is there a conflict? It sure don’t look like it unless you are an NBA basketball star or boxer. We are united unless we feel compelled to separate ourselves. I have these two in my life that are just striking in their aura. One is my big brother and if you watched “Into the Wild” you have seen his softer side. He is a renowned outdoorsman especially with expeditionary and technical river running. He stands 6’6” and is as powerful of a presence than you maybe ever met. The other is my son. Yes he is a model of some renown. If you go to malls you have seen him for sure. But he is a leader of a band that does well in SF Ca. A songwriter and poet and an artist. He has a fancy pantsy degree from a great school. But many call him Adonis. They are not Gods by themselves. But they are a part of what is God. Just like a tiny baby. Just like you. So when we call God by a name we must be cognizant that we are also calling others that name and ourselves. So easy for me I just call God Love.

Maybe we have this all wrong. Maybe we think labels and names are what is important. I think that we should not. My little one called me over for a question on something he was concentrating on. I hollered “just a second friend I will be right there”. Was I wrong to call another human being friend, even though he be my youngest son? I called my wife “honey” the other night. Was I wrong not to call her by her given name? Let us look at this further.

If I told you the native name of this tree would you just see the tree and not the love?

We do well to understand labels but we do poorly if we are jailed by them.
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I just love this guy, the times and this song like I love my country call my country what you will.

Please relax and just take this in love.

So easy to say “what’s in a name?”. And so easy to say that “a rose by any other name is still a rose”. And so easy to say that if it walks like a duck and sounds like a duck and looks like a duck it probably is a duck.

I was in litigation law for a while. I called the judges sir. It actually is just as acceptable as “your honor” yet it irritated some. I wonder why. I know why I did it to much consternation of colleagues. It was so in front of a jury the man sitting above in a black robe was just another sir. That his gestures, machinations and rulings were just human like them. Effective? You bet it was. And a few others tried it but I must say they lacked the… Panache and no one bought it.

Do you call your doctor using doctor and her last name? Two times for me maximum and I have had a lot of docs. Sometimes I just call them doc, but usually just by their first names. What is in a title? Funny but my kids feel all oogie inside if they call me Eric. Dad it is. I have to admit I have had some trouble with Miss, Ms., Mrs., Ma’am, Lady and hey you, and the worst hey baby. Hi hi hi. My mom was always mom or Mrs. Dr. Dierker, she was kind of tough.

But I hope we are getting someplace here. At least I hope I am. If you think of Christ as Mr. Honorable Jehovah well you certainly have a basis for that. And at the extreme like me if you sometimes call him “buddy” there is certainly a basis for that. Do our words define our relationships including names? Or do our relationships we have dictate the names or words we call each other including our Lord?

I am the author here and I pass no judgment. Who am I to tell you the intimacy of your relationship with your God? Not likely that is going to happen until lightning strikes me dead and then maybe I could tell you if I was around.

Hey a great big thank you to my good sister K&T, a more loving soul you shall not meet.I treasure her thoughts and she got me thinking about this. Oh my I hope

"Why did God make us so differently if He did not want us to act like it?" ED 2003

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      Eric Dierker 10 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      I am with you on that. I reckon I throw in extra because I like to talk to much ;-)

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      Lawrence Hebb 10 months ago from Hamilton, New Zealand

      Eric

      I often tell people the most effective prayer is often the shortest, "Lord help!" Works every time for me

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      Eric Dierker 10 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      So cool Lawrence. My labeling is directly connected to my connection at a particular time. Just the other day we had some ice and snow on the road and a blizzard coming down, and I just said, "hey buddy help me make the safe decisions". But in meditation it is all about my version of the Trinity. With my wife and son it is all about Jesus. It seems to work for God and I.

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      Lawrence Hebb 10 months ago from Hamilton, New Zealand

      Eric

      This one got me thinking. See I'm one who thinks there's a lot in a name, that's kinda why God (the Father) has a lot of them, mind you so does Jesus!

      Muslims say God's got 99 names and all of them describe a little of his character! I'm not sure how many are in the Bible but I think I counted over sixty at one point (and gave up)

      I think he did that so we can all identify with him a bit, to you he might be 'friend' but to others he might be 'Jehova Jireh' (provider, he's been that and is that to me)

      Great stuff here, we all see him differently, but he's the same to us all, it's just we all have different needs.

      Blessings

      Lawrence

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      Eric Dierker 11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      No doubt my friend there is truth in what you say. Thank you.

      (please get your hub back to published)

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      Kiss andTales 11 months ago

      Dear Eric thank you for explaining that ,but I really think our actions of helping people in a spiritual way is our own mind and intentions from the heart it is still a matter that belongs to our King Jesus, and Universal Sovereign a work that they can only judge the correct way of. I am doing what they require of me ,you can disagree thats fine for you. take care my friend.

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      Eric Dierker 11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      K&T,

      I think this is a most important inquiry into the appropriate way to communicate our beliefs. I would sincerely hope that I do tell people to do a certain thing. And the way that I try to frame my sermons is geared toward that goal. That thing that I actually hope we do together is to examine our beliefs from a new perspective. In fact it is what I do while writing the sermons.

      Perhaps there are two ends to the spectrum. One extreme is to preach a certain belief in a way that it tells the reader that they must believe a certain way. The other extreme is to just create chaos and doubt about any belief. I like to think you and I are very close to the middle between the two extremes. You a little more toward the first and I a little more to the other.

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      Kiss andTales 11 months ago

      That is a good explanation Eric and wonderful to hear how you are teaching your little one about God.

      I must ask you this question when you post your surmons on HP don't you think that is the same thing you are telling me , what is the difference when I speak and you speak ? You say I may be venturing into what you think and feel , well does that apply to you also when you post surmons.

      I believe you can explain it , please do my friend.

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      Eric Dierker 11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      This is awesome K&T you are passionate about your convictions. I and others recognize that and appreciate it. But my good friend you are venturing closely into the realm of what I should think, feel and believe. Truly truly I say unto you, God made us different for a reason. We are not here to follow another man or man created beliefs. We are here to form a relationship with God. My "credentials" in a man way are a foundation for greater mental understanding and that convinces me that I shall not and will not tell another man what to believe. What I teach my son at 6 is not what I teach my eldest at 34. I do not tell my wife what to believe but she has told me that she has seen God through me. She converted with no suggestion or insistence but by the Grace of God through the Holy Spirit and for her personally the actual touch of Christ.

      My six year old and I were reading "Heroes of the Bible" tonight and he told me that he feels Jesus. I asked if it was because I told him to. He answered "don't be silly Jesus told me to". This is the essence of Christ.

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      Kiss andTales 11 months ago

      Eric reguardless of your credentials and your education its the Heavenly Father who is always right.We surly can agree on that. Also remember moses he did not have good speech but The Father used him for a special assignment, he has not changed. I believe we are given the responsibility of helping people learn the truth and freeing people from satans power as written the whole world is in his hands,

      1Jo 5:19 We know that we originate with God, but the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one.

      Also you know being a man of the bible as an example Jesus talk to his own who reconized also the scriptures did he avoid them because they were in knowledge of the word of God. No they all knew about Mose and the old testement of scrolls .

      remember Jesus was in the temple talking to the older men already versed in the bible, but Jesus had work to do ,and that is the same as of now my friend.

      Eric is satan has certainly confused and have mislead many away from the HEAVENLY FATHER in many ways ,our mission is to restore friends and family in truth and help people them be survivors of Armageddon knowledge is good but saving a life spiritually is priceless a person can live for eternity.

      So when I speak it is not compete, nore is it to say you are wrong, it is my obligation under the Heavenly Father to assist many in learning the truth before the Ark closes.

      Its not my intention to offend you you are a beautiful person and I am sure your wife and family are beautiful just like you.

      I hope you understand my friend.

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      Eric Dierker 11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      K&T you are preaching to the preacher here. I love what you have to say. Here is a problem though. I preached and taught youth for about 5 years with a congregation. The minister of the congregation is my wife's God Father. But we had some major issues - not regarding the Lord but about administration and priorities.

      So we split. I still go to his services from time to time with my wife and son. And when I do I am always asked to comment on the reading. I am telling you it is like family in love with Christ. My calling has changed or maybe grown. I now give my non-religious oriented sermons. And I think you can imagine that I reach many who despise religiosity and churches. My leadership would lead them away from your beliefs and yours would lead them away from mine. But here we are both celebrating the love and life giving of Jesus Christ.

      You lead me but I do not walk behind you.

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      Eric Dierker 11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Ed, you touched on something that am very excited about in my life. Perhaps I should write a sermon on it, but here is at teaser. France, Mexico, Navajo Land, Vietnam and East and West coasts of America. I have attended Catholic Churches in all those places and each for some time. Wow they all practice a blend of religion that is a mix of the culture and the church. The Church incorporates figures and traditions of the indigenous people. In the big Cathedral in Vietnam, you cannot tell the difference about they bow and repeat things just like in the Buddhist temples. Native American services are so close to traditional it is bizarre.

      So I just realized that the man made stuff is kind of hocus pocus and convenience. I am known and welcome in about five church houses around town from Filipino to Native to Vietnamese and of course Mexican in this area. But they all know I will not become a member. Perhaps I get invited to preach from time to time. Interesting these houses of worship.

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      Kiss andTales 11 months ago

      Your friend Mel has a very common belief. hi Mel , I understand your point because we all are equally human.

      But there is and interesting point we should consider.

      Somebody has to come to point where we have to listen to some one who has the answers of how to keep living.

      Example if we need medicine from a doctor or treatment it may be vital to listen to this person to stay alive. Equal man , but his knowledge is rare that every human does not poses.

      That is a human perspective.

      But there also exist a spiritual perspective of how we arrived on planet earth.

      And the answers to continue life is written for our instructions.

      We can by choice decline any help.

      But at the same time we are declining

      The opportunity to keep living on planet earth.

      The Heavenly Father uses who he wishes as assistants in his education work , we must be careful not to throw our blessings and future hope away because we label all incompetent.

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      Eric Dierker 11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      What a great illustrative comment Dana. My wife in the late seventies married me and had a great relationship with my mom. I had just assumed my whole young life that she loved me "like" she did my older brothers and sisters. Well my wife sat me down and explained that this was not so. She did not treat me the same. On outward appearances it was clear that she did not treat me the same in a material way and was harsh on my being mentally lazy. Bless her soul now in heaven, she knew just what I needed. Wow mom's and grandmas are awesome.

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      Eric Dierker 11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Mel you always delight me with your humor. You just may be the wittiest writer that I know.

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      ahorseback 11 months ago

      Hi Eric , For the life of me , I have not been able or willing to join a "house of god " , I should say a particular church or denomination . In doing my family genealogy I deduced that my earliest American ancestors were ministers , deacons , all church attending or ministering puritans escaping the persecution in England and Ireland , Such as the case has evolved for me , it's more important to listen to the best offerings of god - like yours ! I have a sensitive ear to the preaching's , I don't need no man , in a man made building reading man- written words and preaching man- made opinions of my behavior ! LOL ........It is truly about the golden rule isn't it !.....Great words that you have written - as always ...........Ed

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      Dana Tate 11 months ago from LOS ANGELES

      As we all know when people get older they love to talk about childhood memories. My cousin and I would do this often and I noticed when it came to memories of our grandmother they differed. She remembered this loving woman who was practically a religious Saint, and I remembered someone else entirely. The talks became heated at times because in her mind I'm sure, I sounded disrespectful to my grandmothers memory. I didn't mean to be it has always been my way to see deep and speak bluntly. In my opinion my cousins memory was through rose-colored glasses, and she always refused to see people for who they really were but how she wanted them to be.

      Now I realize it wasn't that my cousin didn't see the negative traits, she just chose to focus on the good memories of my grandmother instead, while I, on the other hand, focused on the bad. I believe that when parents show love it may be measured out differently according to the child's needs. Obviously my cousin needed more nurturing because she was more needy, where as I was a little bit stronger and independent.

      God, has given every human being the choice to love Him or not. To choose Him or not. My relationship with God has changed as I grew in Him. He has been God the Father, disciplinarian, best friend, teacher and employer. God has always been everything I needed when I needed it. I see many people whose God is so far and out of reach He can only be worshiped but I found it impossible to love Him under those circumstances. I had to open my heart and allow Him to come in and through a relationship built on intimacy and trust I began to love Him.

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      Mel Carriere 11 months ago from San Diego California

      As in my own writings, spelling is optional. Spell it any way you want, it still summarizes my life. Your check for 1,000,000 Venezuelan Bolivar is in the mail. It's worth about 100K dollars now, but you got to hurry up and spend it, because the inflation rate is so bad that by noon it'll buy you a sandwich.

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      Eric Dierker 11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Get to work Mel, I am expecting a check for one million today! (notice I did not say dollars)

      You are so right about Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic, Latin. Even if we did read it all those it would still filter through our English minds. It is fun to read the explanations before each book of the NT. They almost always refer to the style of writing that is consistent with the style elsewhere. My wife says God sometimes and sometimes something like Chu'a which is in her native tongue.

      And lest we forget to mention the most memorable -- Mail Carrier or is that Mel Carriere?

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      Mel Carriere 11 months ago from San Diego California

      Over there on your philosopher's pinnacle in the Sprung Valley, you come up with stuff that boggles my tired mind. If we could all read the Bible in Hebrew and Greek would the various names of God we found there, because I understand there are several, change our understanding completely? You have given me some food for thought in lieu of breakfast. Fantastic.

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      Eric Dierker 11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      John,

      There is some basis of truth to the concept that we have to be careful about what we think about. There seems to be a need to balance our open minds with the thinking only on good things.

      Thanks for a great comment.

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      John Ward 11 months ago from Richmond, British Columbia, Canada.

      Well written, Eric, when I think on God I too think of him as Love. So in this we are kindred spirits. Many people would argue and say otherwise but then when we look into the Horizon not two people see the same scene in the same way. At least not many do, and each time we read a book we will always get a new perspective. this is why we should always be open to new stimuli. God is love and we must spread and extend his love.

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      Eric Dierker 11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Thank you Bronwen, I do find it interesting that an English speaker would require that we use a foreign tongue to refer to God. But I don't know.

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      Eric Dierker 11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      That is really cool Ruby. I wish I could say the same. I know a few that don't want me to either. It is rather sad.

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      Bronwen Scott-Branagan 11 months ago from Victoria, Australia

      An interesting and perceptive article. When we call on God in other places and languages we may know, he has so many different names, but he is unchanging, we can rely on that, and that's something that's so good!

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      Ruby Jean Fuller 11 months ago from Southern Illinois

      I really do not know anyone who doesn't want a personal relationship with God. I like to call him Father, but as you said, what's in a name? I love the video, ' If I Had A Hammer ' Peace my friend...

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      Eric Dierker 11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Hi Bill, good to hear from you. Well normally these things just hit me out of the blue. I am glad they do.

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      Eric Dierker 11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      K&T, I think probably getting into that rather than superficially, which is dangerous, it should be a separate hub. But of course you are always welcome to write what you please on my hubs.

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      Eric Dierker 11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Clive that is funny and deep at the same time.

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      Bill Holland 11 months ago from Olympia, WA

      I never thought of it like this, but then I'm not much for deep thinking. I leave that to you, and then all I have to do is read your sermons. :)

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      Eric Dierker 11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      That trouble with others seems to me to almost always be a direct consequence of trying to "convert" others. I think many people think they a called to this. And many of those are wrong as they were not given that gift but rather just feel it.

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      Kiss andTales 11 months ago

      Clive that's a good question since this is Erics hub he should have the honor to explain ,

      If you would like me too Its also my honor to tell you anything you would like to know.

      THANKS for Question

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      Clive Williams 11 months ago from Nibiru

      who is God?

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      manatita44 11 months ago from london

      Great Hub and I enjoyed it. Nice pic of the family.

      I have to say though, that however wise we present our arguments, we may still run into trouble with others.

      I guess that the Divine Mother knows best. Have a great day.

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      Eric Dierker 11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      I think the Quakers use the name meaningfully as I have inquired. Thank you friend.

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      Kiss andTales 11 months ago

      You are a sweetheart Eric and I appreciate your honesty

      We will keep in touch. Thank you ! may Jehovah keep close.

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      Eric Dierker 11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      You are inspiration my friend. And for the friendliness of your large loving group of people, I thank you along with God. I think we will not agree like best friend school children. I think we will agree to dialogue and doing our best. You are always welcome to share your views here. They are illuminating and good for us to consider.

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      Kiss andTales 11 months ago

      I like that Hub! My Friend ! You are correct!