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Eric's Sunday Sermon; Abortion and Right to Die and the Death Penalty

Updated on November 8, 2015

Timeless and endless and incapable of dying.

Sure give it a few more million years and these Sedona Red Rocks will wash into the sea.
Sure give it a few more million years and these Sedona Red Rocks will wash into the sea. | Source

NO Whining!

Death by abortion or Right to Die are death of a human at the hands of another. Basically homicide. But that is just the beginning of coming to grips with the issues presented.

Death really just plain stinks as far as our human condition is concerned. It means the end of our bodies here on earth, Really the complete end to our bodies. That is unless you are weird like me and see a continuum of life as little critters and plants feed off the detritus of our rotting flesh like any once alive creature. But that is for an Earth Science and holistic sermon which this is not. Think I just wasted your time going off in that strange way. There is method to this madness. Flesh is flesh. Biology is biology. If you are concerned, overly, about death of anything stop eating ANYthing that was or is alive. I hug trees. Yep I just walk right up to them and give them a hug. I love trees. Any kind of tree - even the ones that give prickers and allergies. Hopefully all that mumbo jumbo got us off to the right start about people being out there in their thinking. I am.

Now we can talk about us humans dying. I like to saying "the life breath leaving our bodies". Our flesh was made to die. Something like our whole body regenerates our entire cell structure every given time period. That means our cells are constantly dying. I am cool with that I don't want to preserve all my cells, they are made to die off. But each cell is part of the entire body and so I have to accept that I am dying as I am living.

Bet you never heard anyone approach Abortion and Right to Die quite this way. Let us see where it leads us.

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I wonder how I will look.

Life abounds all around us.

Wild? Grapes.
Wild? Grapes. | Source

Life is so precious

With all the above said there is such beauty in the human life. Heck in all life. I am a child and roses guy myself, I love trees but I just really love to grow roses and children. I have to admit I find an old wrinkly face very alluring also. But it is hard to beat planting a vegetable and caring for it to fruition. Carrots are one of my favs. I probably would rather visit a guy dying in a hospital than sit in a boring board meeting. But I ain't no nurse or doctor though my mom and dad were respectively.

A plant leaf with cool morning dew or the pungent odor of a hot afternoon over a blackberry patch are just the best.

But get to people and I even revel in experiencing other's pain with them. Babies make me tear with joy and a lesson and hand holding with an octogenarian plus just fills me with joy. A hero giving her life for another or the standard medic just plain old saving a life is so awesome. If you have never been present for a birth - find out how and get it done.

But alas it really is not the flesh that turns me on. It is the life blood of the soul that fills me with all great things.

Oh my how I love the little ones just learning to stand and walk.

My guy was just crawling on the grass and grabbed hold and stood up then ran to me. I was bored ;-)
My guy was just crawling on the grass and grabbed hold and stood up then ran to me. I was bored ;-) | Source

Just the fact that when we are alive we think is good enough for me to want to preserve life.

OK so life is wonderful and death is bad.

Now what do we do? God has some answers. God loves us and I don't think that when we say that it is limited in any way. I am sure He loves us in our bodies, where we can experience the joy of being His children. I think that the same love that we experience in these bodies, He knows also. Touch and seeing and hearing and tasting and feeling are all marvelous, why would He ever deny himself of such pleasures and goodness. This life is good and so He must know it.

Then we get into creation. The whole scheme without some "intelligent design" is just too difficult to prove. Just impossible to recreate. For what ever we create something created us. Primordial ooze and electrical impulses only can get us there. Alpha must begin somewhere. And so we are left with some kind of purpose driven life. So life has a purpose. Take my word for it that takes books. But here is a simple form you cannot disagree with: The purpose of life is to live!

Take that purpose away and you begin death. Or is it the other way? Start death and take away the purpose?

So that takes us to death. Oh boy. Death is hard to take but at the hand of another is really brutal. Suicide also.

Get off your high horse and walk a while.

We justify the taking of another human life. Argue the semantics or argue the legalism. Argue a never position and see where that gets you in defense of a child from a psychopathic homocidal maniac. So everyone agrees killing is justified in certain circumstances. Maybe not for you personally but you would want someone to protect the child from the maniac unless you are brain and feeling dead already. Bless you and we pray for you.

So for each of us we have to discovery what we think are the OK justifications. Take my word for it, there is no exact right and wrong. That whole thing with Roe v. Wade is the best man has ever come up with. It probably needs an update as to viable fetus. It does not make anyone happy so it must be a good compromise. But what is well done in the decision is that they, SCOTUS, recognized degrees of justification and bravely drew a line in the sand. Wrong or right, they are on the right track. We can learn from it.

As for me the question is answered simply. Gametes versus zygotes. Once two cells have joined to make a third living thing. From then it is the taking of a life. So contraception is cool for me, morning after probably. Any later and I am just opposed unless there may be other considerations or degrees. I am adopted at birth. I began life as a zygote and will end probably as a very old man. And that is a nice thought.

Death Penalty.Taking a life when there are options makes no sense to me. I am not opposed to forced labor of one convicted of a capital crime. Just do not see it as slavery - see it as productive punishment. Killing because of a bad act or several on behalf of a person, just does not make sense to me. Sure you can get into the whole eye for an eye deal, but who needs it? Deterrent is just a silly notion. I ain't never not kilt no one cuz I was fraid of the consequences.

Right to Die. Well someone had to work hard to come up with a rule against it. All life is precious so it should end when living makes no sense. Of course there are degrees here also. Duh. Billy a perfectly healthy 20 year old does not have a right to assisted suicide. John 91 year old suffering but alive on a ventilator clearly does. In between you make the call.



So to conclude

You draw the line. But don't go get all holier than thou on us and act like you are God or His right hand man. Push our government in the direction you like by electing officials with like minds. Go protest if you feel that strong. Let your feelings be known. But do not sit there like a bump on the log or couch and not give it thought. What good is your life if you are too important to consider the lives and deaths of others.

A pray for those losing their lives. Pray for those taking them. And pray for our leaders to consider mightily any decisions they make. Then pray for revelation as to what you believe.

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      Eric Dierker 21 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Thank you Frank, these are issues we should be discussing rather than arguing. You lift me up friend.

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      Frank Atanacio 21 months ago from Shelton

      Eric what a powerful sermon.. I always believe we all have the right to live.. and an eye for an eye... you take a life you must forfeit yours.. a great conversation topic you published my friend :)

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      Eric Dierker 21 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Ann, one could almost imagine death being a relief to living with that much confusion and hate inside those criminals. Sometimes I don't think we can harm someone else more than we can our selves.

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      Ann Carr 21 months ago from SW England

      We are taught that it's wrong to kill; ergo, it's wrong to kill! That's it for me; simple. It doesn't mean I don't want those who have just killed many in Paris to die. Personally, I think they should spend the rest of their lives, if caught, in solitary with nothing but the basics and no parole.

      As you say, God decides.

      Ann

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      Eric Dierker 21 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Patricia, this is not my normal inspirational type sermon. But I think it important that we don't think we have a "free ride" as humans to not consider such things. Love, hope and joy are more up my alley but this comes with the territory.

      You echo much of my thoughts here. And made me think I did not spend enough time treating the notion of individual cases versus general rules.

      Thank you much.

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      Patricia Scott 21 months ago from sunny Florida

      Once again you dare to come out and broach the topics that many would run from.

      Great stuff, here, Eric...so well put.

      I have written about Karla Faye Tucker who committed a heinous crime and was executed...it gave me pause as I read her story.

      Abortion....yeah, should not be another form of contraception and for some it has been ....

      There are extreme cases when it is justified but only in the earliest moments...in my humble opinion.

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      Awesome Eric

      Angels are once again on the way to you ps

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      Eric Dierker 21 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Make my Day! Ms. Dora that is music to my ears like a sweet violin. Happy Sunday and thanks for that great piece on empowerment of women: https://hubpages.com/relationships/Six-Truths-abou...

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      Dora Isaac Weithers 21 months ago from The Caribbean

      "I just really love to grow roses and children" Imagine making me smile in the midst of a discussion on death and dying. Good teaching style--making us comfortable while you move through the topic. Good read!

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      Eric Dierker 21 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      I don't think you are the silent majority, I think you are the actual and reflective voice of our communal stance. It is a matter of degree, but there is an old saying "Carelessness on your part does not cause an emergency on my part". Using death to correct our mistakes either societal or personal is not excusable.

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      Eric Dierker 21 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      It seems that the only complete answer to these is to keep trying to do better. Conscious thought and soul full prayer for inspiration.

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      Dana Tate 21 months ago from LOS ANGELES

      I have always been torn on the two topics of abortion and the death penalty. As far as the death penalty goes, I always found it ironic how a cold-blooded killer would beg for his own life to be spared; even with that being said I can't necessarily say I would vote for the death penalty. And, likewise I have always respected a woman's right to choose; but could not understand why adults would put themselves in a position on making that choice in the first place. I'm not judging but there are so many ways to prevent pregnancy. I can't fathom being irresponsible and then using abortion as away to "get rid of the problem."

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      Ruby Jean Fuller 21 months ago from Southern Illinois

      There was a time when I believed in a woman's choice, now I'm not so sure. When Planned parenthood is selling fetus cells I draw the line. I was working in the delivery room with a Dr. who was attempting to deliver a fetus that the mother had attempted to abort, She used a coat hanger and was having profuse bleeding. She had seven children all two years apart and they were dirt poor. This was before abortion was legalized. The pill was not available. I have taken care of cancer patients who were in so much pain they prayed for death. It seems unreal to me that we will euthanize animal and not a human. As for the death penalty, should we humans have the right to kill anyone? I certainly do not have all the answers. You gave us much food for thought. Thank you.

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      Eric Dierker 21 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Thank you much friend

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      Venkatachari M 21 months ago from Hyderabad, India

      Thank you, Eric, for considering my perception and making it clear from your side also. I have just gone through it and it sounds well.

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      Eric Dierker 21 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Venkatachari, your comment made me add a line so as to make sure that it is understood that taking a life when there are viable options is not acceptable practice.

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      Eric Dierker 21 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Thank you Bill, We are blessed to be able to be rational about such matters. Discussion without rancor is very important. I just hope more people spend time on these rather than just blow it off.

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      Venkatachari M 21 months ago from Hyderabad, India

      Very intelligent and intricate topic. Your perspectives are okay and I value them. But death penalty by law is not a welcome practice. You can give life imprisonment and try to rehabilitate the criminals. Not kill them. But right to death is acceptable in the sense that it is more lighter in the degree of torture than the real torture being undergone by a patient living in an unbearable condition. These are my opinions.

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      Bill Holland 21 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Love your conclusion. I try very hard not to judge others. I try very hard to be a part of the solution in this thing we call life. I give counsel when it is asked for and try to lead by example. In the end, I'll be satisfied with my life. :)

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      Clive Williams 21 months ago from Nibiru

      most welcome eric

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      Eric Dierker 21 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Thank you much Clive, it is fruitful to pay attention to what you say. So thanks again.

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      Clive Williams 21 months ago from Nibiru

      The flesh of man is just that, flesh. No flesh can and will live forever as it is a physical entity that is weak and soft. Only the soul last till eternity and that is what you are filled with Eric. A good soul. Blessings to you.