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Eric's Sunday Sermon; Hate

Updated on June 26, 2016

What kind of corrupted mind can teach a child to hate

Can you even imagine teaching a child to hate another?
Can you even imagine teaching a child to hate another? | Source

A complicated subject

Hate crimes, haters, hateful, I hate lima beans, I hate doing my taxes, I hate gays, I hate Christians and I hate politicians. Just what does hate really mean? Are we all guilty of hating? Did you realize that there is no commandment in the Bible directly telling us not to hate? Can we hate a group based on a few of thier that we know? Why do children even say “I hate”? What would we think of the proposition that hate is good? In battle is there any benefit to hating your adversary? Where did hating your ex-spouse come from? Does “hate the action not the actor” make sense?

What would you say to the notion that there are as many kinds of hate as there are kinds of love?

Is hatred the opposite of love?

Certainly I hope you are scratching your head as I am. Here is a cool thought though; In general the word hate has negative connotations in our world society. I think that is a good thing. Do you think it is possible to hate your enemies and still love and pray for them? I think it is accepted by the medical/psychiatric community that hate has dilatory effects on our health. Is anger part of hate?

Merrim-Webster gives us common usage;

Full Definition of hate

1

a : intense hostility and aversion usually deriving from fear, anger, or sense of injury

b : extreme dislike or antipathy : loathing <had a great hate of hard work>

I like that “deriving from fear” part. Perhaps I would say it “deriving from fear and ignorance”.

Well of course I cannot answer all the question posed above. So maybe I can figure out what I hate about hate. Isn’t that kind of like getting anxious over anxiety? That snowball effect is a real trap.

There is one thing I know and that is that hatred in our hearts separates us from our God. It drives a wedge between us and our connectivity with divinity. That alone should keep us from hating.

Did you know?

Over forty years after the end of a war, grandparents still teach grandchildren to hate their opponents.
Over forty years after the end of a war, grandparents still teach grandchildren to hate their opponents. | Source

What is hate good for?

Loving something less is not hate.

It would appear that we often use the term hate to indicate a simple dislike for something. There was a time when I had a pretty bad back. Bending over caused pain. So I developed a dislike for pulling harmful weeds. Keep in mind that dislike is not the harboring of something. It is the absence of liking something and that is perfectly normal. “I don’t like to….”. Well through a rigorous exercise regimen my back no longer hurts when I bend over. But the dislike/hate toward pulling weeds remains when in fact when I weed I get great satisfaction from the results and I can rationally see the benefits of being outside with plants and getting exercise. Go figure that one out. But we can see that using the word hate in this context simply means that I do not have a liking of it. Not a bad thing at all. And really isn’t that the way we commonly use the term hate.

Here is a good one. I prefer a routine. When something interferes with my routine I hate it. I found myself just the other day nearly turning down a great opportunity to do something fun because I disliked the idea of disrupting my routine. That is crazy! I think that we can be so blinded by hate that we miss out on a lot of good things. So hatred like resentment usually hurts us more than what we hate. I know of a man that hates Asians. So he misses out on Vietnamese, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Mongolian, Thai and Filipino cuisine. Well I hardly see how he is hurting the Asians.

Here is a fun one I just cannot pass up. Ancient Greek for hate is miseo. Within that definition is the concept “merely to love less”. So in the Bible at Luke 14:26 it is translated into the notion that we are to hate family and friends and focus our love on God. When in fact it means that we are to love God more than anything in this world. Totally different than our notion of hate. Very easy to be misled here and very cool to know the truth. I think I fail here because I do not love my son less than God, just differently than God or my wife.

So let us be real clear here. We use the word hate more often than not to describe that we have no “like” for something – dislike.

Teaching to love and not hate is really not that hard.

Seems to me that love comes naturally but hate has to be taught.
Seems to me that love comes naturally but hate has to be taught. | Source

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How does hate creep in?

What are we to make of this concept of politically correct speech? Somewhere along the road to now we put negative connotations on words. It seems as though there is a war on words. I do not like the organization called “Black Lives Matter”. I just think that their hard to pin down leadership is steering the members into hatred. Do I think black lives matter? Of course I do and so do you. But if you criticize or say “I hate Black Lives Matter”, that somehow gets twisted into I hate blacks. And now you are a hater. That is just bizarre extrapolation. Just because you hate a concept and organization does not mean you hate the people involved with it. Hate the action not the actor.

Is there room in our hearts for hate? I was hammering the other day and hit my thumb. I just hate it when that happens because inevitably you will hit it again in short order. Just one of those strange things that happen repeatedly. Even if my heart is filled with love, I have room for that kind of hate.

Here is something to contemplate. Dictionary definitions by nature are supposed to report those definitions as reflected in common usage and common meaning. The most common use of the word hate is just the normal day to day when we use it to mean that we have no like for something. So why do we immediately jump to the most negative meaning of the word when considering hate? It really makes no sense at all.

Now let us look at really bad hate. (Maybe that should be with a capital H) A friend asked me just the other day. What came first a conversion to being a mentally disturbed person, or conversion into a radical religious belief that terrorism is OK? Make no mistake all-consuming hatred of a people is a mental disease. Taking action on the delusional hatred makes one very sick indeed. Some people actually believe that the actions of the people being hated causes the sickness. Unlike the movies, a person cannot cause another person to go insane. But what about brainwashing and hatred passed down from generation to generation? And that takes us back to the original question. Is one insane first or is the hatred that is taught the cause of insanity? I have concluded that it could be either.

What about you?

Do you have room for serious hate?

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Preventative medicine -- Love

So some hate is merely dislike. Some hate is caused by dumb resentments and/or ignorance. And some hate is just plain sad as it has consumed a person. I love to be loved. I hate to be hated. As we touched on earlier, there is one remedy for that horrible kind of hatred. If our hearts are completely filled with love there is no room in there for hate. So I ask you to do something for me. Love others so much that their hearts fill with joy and love. In so doing you can help them remain free of the disease of hate.

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      Linda Lum 12 months ago from Washington State, USA

      Eric, as always there is so much content I should probably take notes as I'm writing so that I won't forget all that I meant to say in the comments. (But I didn't so you'll have to bear with me).

      (1) We tend to confuse hate with dislike (I think you said that). I dislike weeding, I dislike driving on our crowded freeways. (But I really do hate beets).

      (2) Norine is correct in that we are told to hate the sin but love the sinner. It is a loving thing to do, and that is the way that our Heavenly Father treats us.

      (3) I believe that God actually DOES instruct us to not hate. In the 4th commandment we are told to not kill. Luther's catechism interprets the 4th commandment in this way --

      Therefore the entire sum of what it means not to kill. In the first place, that we harm no one, first, with our hand or by deed. Then, that we do not employ our tongue to instigate or counsel thereto. Further, that we neither use nor assent to any kind of means or methods whereby any one may be injured. And finally, that the heart be not ill disposed toward any one, nor from anger and hatred wish him ill.

      Whew! I know the language is a bit antiquated (and this is a translation from German), but I think you get it.

      So thank you for another great hub. You always give us something to think about.

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      Eric Dierker 12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Wow what great stuff you add here Linda. That is an awesome look at "thou shall not kill". How often have we witnessed the death of a persons spirit by the presence of hate? Boy I sure hope I have never killed in such a way.

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      manatita44 12 months ago from london

      You choose good old-fashioned topical words and perhaps they help to make your sermons even more instructional. This is a well-written, very necessary Hub and one worth taking note of.

      Actually, dictionaries at best guide us, and sometimes pretty good, too, but they aren't really awesome at conveying the spirit of the word. For example, when you ask why people fear hate so much, it is because hate hurts.

      Yes, you've given really 'nice' forms of hate too, but deep down, in our complex psyche, we carry things which make us fill with pain, like a diseased vessel, and we are uncomfortable because we know it's not nice.

      We humans know more than we are credited for, just that sometimes we either cannot let go, or it is difficult to do so, even when we try.

      Now, I thought of something while you were speaking of weeds. I 'hate' cutting the grass in the front garden, but I do it because it looks ugly and no one else would. Let us look at the why's. Well, I don't like bending. Why? Because my back hurts. So? Well, I feel pain and I know the garden takes time and I tire ...so many things to do!!

      So I'm showing you that at the end of the day, it seems to always relate to some kind of fear, however subtle, and perhaps this is a part of the process of growth. By the way, like you, I feel better when the gardening has been done. Ha ha.

      A lot from me today. Overall, a most impressive Sermon and one filled with introspection and great potential affirmations to ponder upon. Those pictures are amazing! I'd love to be there. Is that you with the kid? Love.

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      Mel Carriere 12 months ago from San Diego California

      I've used that "I can't do that because my back hurts" excuse a lot myself. It gets easier as you get older, but it still doesn't dissuade my wife out of her plans for me.

      Your idea of institutionalized hatred passed down from generation to generation is interesting. Hate can become a religious doctrine in this fashion, and then it is almost impossible to uproot, like the weeds in your yard with your bad back.

      I find it hard to hate. I'm a real pushover in that regard. Sometimes I really try to hate somebody, but then I'm over it in about ten minutes. Interaction with other humans is just too much fun to spoil it with hate. I consider this a character flaw sometimes, but you've just given me reasons to call it a good thing.

      Have a wonderful Sunday out in the hate free zone of the Sprung Valley!

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      Eric Dierker 12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Manatita, all readers here are very fortunate to have your comment as a welcome addition. I like an old phrase; Anger is fear turned outward. And I find it hard to separate hate from some kind of anger. Fear does seem to be a common catalyst.

      I do think we fear the pain, be it physical or emotional.

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      manatita44 12 months ago from london

      Well ...giving and receiving .... in this wayfaring journey. We are servants Bro, and your sermons are incredibly practical, logical and full of inspiration. Much Gratitude.

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      Eric Dierker 12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Ya Mel, my wife giving no reprieve motivated me to do something about it. I had to do as she said no matter the pain anyway.

      Isn't it sad that there really is an institutionalized hate by way of "religions".

      That is funny, sometimes I try to hate too. I just can't sustain it for more than a moment.

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      Clive Williams 12 months ago from Nibiru

      By reading your hub i think i just began to HATE you Eric! ..........................Just Kidding. Hate poisons people mind. As your hub states, many times people hate because of fear or lack of understanding. But overwhelming hate will destroy your inner self. Great Hub.

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      Eric Dierker 12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Clive, I have known you for a bit, and while a bit tongue in cheek I have never seen a hateful side of you. Your ledger is filled on the love side.

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      Rich Kelley 12 months ago from The Ekklesia

      Eric

      I just searched the entire bible and found the word hate is used 13 times in the New Testament and 80 times on the Old Testament.

      None of the times are we, the product of God's creation told to hate, not once.

      There is mention of God hatting, there is mention of people hatting God.

      The hate that is common in the world is not condoned in the scriptures.

      Rich

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      Eric Dierker 12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Very interesting Rich and it adds much here. Perhaps I should have placed a caveat in reference to mention of hate in the Bible. I am meditating on the notion that "Thou shall not kill" may be inclusive of thou shall not hate.

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      Hari Prasad S 12 months ago from Bangalore

      Excellent sermon eric. I like it and got inspired to write on it. Thanks.

      "Peace can dilute hate"

      Hate,

      a byproduct of fate,

      Within it, is anxiousness intact,

      No peaceful moments, for the hurt.

      Peace,

      a byproduct of love,

      much to flower, and bliss all over,

      nothing else to inflict the souls poor.

      Peace can dilute hate forever.

      It has to be raised up to let it shower,

      Across the seas of diverse thoughts and culture.

      - hari

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      Eric Dierker 12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Wow Hari what a gift you share with us today. I feel humbled in a good way. We are truly blessed when a beauty of the day comes from within the heart of another. I am so happy that you let your light shine for others to benefit from.

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      Hari Prasad S 12 months ago from Bangalore

      My pleasure too. Your thoughts are the soul of this poem.

      - hari

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      Devika Primić 12 months ago from Dubrovnik, Croatia

      Sometimes when people mention HATE they say it in anger and don't mean it. I can't anyone!

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      Eric Dierker 12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Yes DDE, it is almost like a cuss word. We just say it without thinking about it.

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      Rich Kelley 12 months ago from The Ekklesia

      ""Thou shall not kill" may be inclusive of thou shall not hate"

      Sounds close to me

      Mat 5:21 "You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, 'You shall not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.'

      Mat 5:22 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, 'Raca,' is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell.

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      Eric Dierker 12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Awesome. We are blessed to have fine folks like you that lead us to scripture that is relevant and helpful.

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      Ruby Jean Fuller 12 months ago from Southern Illinois

      I really can't think of a person I hate today. I dislike some actions, for instance, Isis, but I know they were taught to hate and they believe they are doing God's will. What it all boils down to is teaching. Teach a child to love and they won't have room for hate. There is a BIG difference between hate and dislike. I dislike driving on the interstate. I hate to fly and refuse to do so. The tongue is so small yet it can spew hate that cuts like a knife. Your sermon's always make me think. Thank you..

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      Norine Williams 12 months ago

      Thanks Carb!

      Eric, see how you are "causing your brothers to stumble" by deleting TRUTH! GOD SEES! Carb agreed with GOD'S definition of HATE, but you did not allow others to see by "deleting!"

      Proverbs 6:16-19 "These six things doth the LORD "hate:" yea, seven are an abomination unto him. A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren."

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      Patricia Scott 12 months ago from sunny Florida

      So well stated, Eric. So many spot on points you have made. I find myself saying I hate....somethings every now and then but actually as you say, I do not really despise them I just like them much less than something else.

      Sharing this ....a very thoughtfully presented read.

      Angels are once again on the way to you ps

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      Eric Dierker 12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Ruby it is good of you to come by and let me know. I heard "I hate bell peppers" this morning which caused me to repeat - "we don't say bad words in this house and that includes words you do not understand, no more saying I hate." The more we think about it the more defense we have against hate.

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      Eric Dierker 12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Norine I am sorry but too often you just rant. And you drive people away from the message. You seem to revel in coming up with ways and things that God hates. That is a very strange obsession. But to each there own even those that believe like you do.

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      Eric Dierker 12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Patricia a constant pleasure you are in my life. You ooze love. My family prays for yours. God might not do what we want but we know God hears.

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      Kiss andTales 12 months ago

      He's a cutie pie love babies !

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      Norine Williams 12 months ago

      Kiss and Tales: To that I agree! He should be in commercials he's so cute!

      Daddy: You have too much at risk to continue in your belief! You have ONLY been taught "One Side" of GOD - LOVE! You have to be Holestic about HIM! You have to believe ALL OF HIS WORD!

      As a parent, you love your child and are kind; that's the side your child would love to see ALL OF THE TIME as you do in your Religion. But if you have "established rules," and the child disobeys, there are "disciplinary actions" or "consequences!" So it is with GOD and this is the "Other Side" that you have not been taught or fail to accept!

      I'm not trying to do anything but tell the WHOLE TRUTH! If one disobeys GOD, there is a HELL! If one does not "Search the Scriptures" to receive "revelation" (after HE has sent us HELP) from the Holy Spirit of "The Gospel of Christ" (which is AFTER the Cross), there is a HELL!

      The ONLY way one can be "Saved," is with the HELP of the Holy Spirit! Read my response to my Question: "Do you think the Council of Nicea was for or Against God?" Therein lies the answer!

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      Eric Dierker 12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Kiss & Tales it is a real pleasure to have you come by. I admire your faith and the way in which you present it. You do God a great service.

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      Eric Dierker 12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Norine I will not delete your comment. For now. This is not the place for your negativity and nastiness. Please save your preaching for places that welcome it. Perhaps someday you will realize that not every day and every hour and every place is appropriate for your opinions to be shoved in other's faces.

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      Kiss andTales 12 months ago

      Eric thank you , I appreciate your honesty ! you speak as you really see things. I am sure Jesus would be proud of you for that. And you are very brave yourself in standing up to to ridiculers. It is better to be the presecuted then the one presecuting. Jesus surely tells us it's a mark of faith.

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      Kiss andTales 12 months ago

      King James Version Mt 5:11 11Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Mt 5:12 12Rejoice and leap for joy, since YOUR reward is great in the heavens; for in that way they persecuted the prophets prior to YOU.

      There is no reward in persecuting and saying evil things to people.

      But there is one for those who endure it as Jesus did.

      Sad people get it mixed up.

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      ahorseback 12 months ago

      Hey there Buddy ! I don't think as many people hate as labelers would like us all to believe . I'm a forum dweller , and hate is a label thrown at many things , at patriotism , at conservatives , at nationalism , and in the other directions too , at all the labels of socialism , liberalism . I truly don't hate . Hate is just the label thrown out there in extremes of emotion in the most desperate stage of misunderstandings , when someone is shown the ill of their thoughts , a desperate attempt at "hate " used . I believe there is way , way more good in people than anything resembling hate . Of course - its these" Sermons of the Eric "

      that have constantly shown us all the light in the tunnel of humanity !

      "Sermons of the Eric " doesn't that sound cool ? Kind of Robin-hoodish , you know , the days of maidens in the castle towers , knights of the round table and such ! Be well our amazing friend !....:-]

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      Eric Dierker 12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Kiss & Tales, thank you for those comments. There is this wonderful idea that comes from the Bible. It kind of goes like this from Galatians; 5:13 You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh ; rather, serve one another humbly in love.

      You in fact work toward this end.

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      Eric Dierker 12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Ed that is awesome. You make a point that I often think of in general. Oh for sure there are bad things in this world. But holy moly guacamole there is tons more good stuff going on. I admit I am not a bad boy, but I still make a few little wrongs throughout the day. But I do more good. I think most people are that way. And by extrapolation our world society is the same.

      I read your work and feel a comfort that it is done in love.

      Your catchy title does sound enticing.

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      Bill Holland 12 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Sorry I'm late, buddy!

      I don't know how to hate.

      End of comment!

      :)

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      Kiss andTales 12 months ago

      Yes Eric I love that scriptural thought . Because Jesus makes it very plain Mt 5:5 5“Happy are the mild-tempered ones, since they will inherit the earth. Mt 5:9 9“Happy are the peaceable, since they will be called ‘sons of God.’

      Can we practice this now ! Yes ! This is where paradise starts .the earth will be as heaven, Jesus quotes to say at Mt 6:10 10 Let your kingdom come.( Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth.) If we think we do not have to be peaceable here , then we are wrong ,Gods will covers heaven and earth ,what we do here is a tests .if we can not maintain the fruitage of Gods spirit

      Reference Bible Ga 5:22 22On the other hand, the fruitage of the spirit is love, joy, peace, long-suffering, kindness, goodness, faith,

      These are the ones left in the earth to make it paradise.

      If we can not apply now ,he will not pass us into a realm of peace that is already doing these things. If that was the case heaven would be just like earth.

      But it is not will never be corrupt as earth.

      Here is where he decides our destination .

      Thank you.

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      Norine Williams 12 months ago

      I see the "spirits" (demons) are in agreement this morning (as usual)!

      You again "deleted" GOD'S WORDS! HE "SEES!" Woe be unto you!

      Here is some more of what HE HAS SAID, since you won't take the time to READ:

      "But if you believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words" (John 5:47)?

      I give WORD and look what you're doing?

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      Kiss andTales 12 months ago

      Satan quotes scriptures he also knows the words in the bible

      Mt 4:6

      6 and said to him: “If you are a son of God, hurl yourself down; (for it is written), ‘He will give his angels a charge concerning you, and they will carry you on their hands, that you may at no time strike your foot against a stone.’”

      Here satan quotes scriptures ! The one at Ps 91:12

      12Upon their hands they will carry you, That you may not strike your foot against any stone.

      Satan knows the scriptures too, does that make him in good standing , a minister of God !

      Quoting scriptures does not make you a representative of Jesus or Jehovah.

      You can quote all day that is not the point.

      But you think this .

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      Norine Williams 12 months ago

      Sure isn't!

      This is "The Point:" If one does not live AFTER THE CROSS (what JESUS died for and sent HIMSELF back as HOLY SPIRIT to HELP you; John 14:26 "...in MY name..."), you are "ACCURSED" according to Galatians 1:6-9!

      Now say That IS "NOT" WRITTEN? Now call that SATAN!

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      Kiss andTales 12 months ago

      Who are you to know what people do ! Through hp is just a computer screen and you judge people on here to say what they do and don't do.

      You fight over scriptures that's not the point .

      Quoting verses is not going to save you or the one you quote to.

      It is what you do with your knowledge .how you personally apply it in a relationship.

      Calling people names is certainly not applying scriptures it is dogmatic

      Unchristian . But you convinced yourself you are on Jesus side who can you teach with insults? No one. And you get offended when some one tells you the truth.

      Then you want to use the bible to attack people .running people away from Jesus in a since.

      Why is it you can not see this !

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      Eric Dierker 12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Bill, I reckon some would call that a disability ;-)

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      Eric Dierker 12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Kiss & Tales and Norine, this is a wonderful dialogue to give people an opportunity to see both hate and love in action. The not so subtle bent of Norine, seems to be hatred hidden under the guise of the Bible. Exactly the kind of self righteousness that leads to anger and hate that we speak of here.

      Kiss & Tales lets us see the harmony between love and scripture. Oh for sure we cannot agree with another 100% if we are to use our God given brain. And Kiss & Tales and I need not agree on everything if we view each other in love instead of hate.

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      Eric Dierker 12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Norine, I am just debating with myself whether to delete your comment or not. I am reluctant because you show the rest of us Christians how not to act. Do you practice flagellation? Based on your rhetoric it would seem to follow.

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      Eric Dierker 12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Again Norine -- just plain goofy. Some are born with different gifts and not others, you don't seem to have gotten any.

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      Dora Isaac Weithers 11 months ago from The Caribbean

      Leave it to you, Eric to dissect and show the hidden value of the terms you choose to educate us about. I like that you make us think so deeply about things and situations we are tempted to gloss over.

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      Dianna Mendez 11 months ago

      Your article is timely in regards to the recent Dallas shootings. Hate was the motive. We must strive to overcome this driver of death. Your comment, "There is one thing I know and that is that hatred in our hearts separates us from our God. It drives a wedge between us and our connectivity with divinity. That alone should keep us from hating." is true, so true.

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      Eric Dierker 11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Thank you Dianna,

      Perhaps the time has come that we as Netizens and citizens need to step up to confront hate and provide healthy alternatives. May God bless us all, and not just let us be bystanders but actors of love in these troubled times

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      Norine Williams 11 months ago

      Teaches12345 HAVE YOU CONSIDERED "GOD CREATED BOTH EVIL & GOOD FOR "HIS WILL?" You all are so "carnal minded!" Take Judas for instance! ALL "think" he was "horrible" but without Judas, there would have been no BLOOD SHED for the "remissions of our sins!" Where would we be? JESUS used Judas as "a vessel" to "fulfill Scripture" and do you think GOD would (for lack of better words) "kick him to the curb?" JESUS went into the grave and spoke to "prisoners" who were "once disobedient" (I Peter 3:19-20) and whose to say GOD did not forgive Judas? So it is with Charles Jackson (the sniper)! Whose to say GOD did not use him to bring attention to the world that the "senseless murders" of Blacks MUST STOP? Look at the focus the world now has on the attitude society has portrayed!

      Don't get me wrong, I feel for the "innocent" who were killed and for their families' lost, but "THINK," when Pharaoh would not "Let my people go," "innocent "men, women and children" suffered and died for GOD'S WILL TO BE ACCOMPLISHED!

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      Eric Dierker 11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      That was a pretty good comment for you Norine. Actually readable. Perhaps you can grow and really become a vessel for communicating your vision of the world that we reside in. If we could really discern God's motives for acting we would be dead.

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      Norine Williams 11 months ago

      "If we could really discern God's motives for acting we would be dead."

      NOT TRUE or Scripture LIED!

      Did WORD not say the Holy Spirit would "LEAD & GUIDE US INTO ALL TRUTH" (John 14:26; 16:13)? IS "GOD'S MOTIVES" NOT THE HOLY SPIRIT'S (SAME SPIRIT; I Corinthians 12)? Who knows "HIS MOTIVES" better than HIMSELF? Why we should "be connected" and would be IF we "WAIT" (Acts 1:4)!

      Don't think the HOLY SPIRIT was something "back in those days!" HE'S ALIVE and well (Hebrews 4:12) - TODAY!

      TRY HIM!

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      Eric Dierker 11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Wow Norine I saw you posted 30 comments on one question today. That is truly remarkable and indicative of someone with absolutely no other life. Me thinks you need to get out more. Jesus was never online.

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      Norine Williams 11 months ago

      Why would HE need to be "online" when HE "fills the heaven & earth" (Jeremiah 23:24)?

      "No other life?" I just returned from visiting my 98 year old father-in-law and 97 year old mother-in-law in Arkansas! Had wonderful meals some of which consisted of "fried green tomatoes, fresh purple hull peas, (my favorite), hot water cornbread, & fresh tomatoes" from their garden. To top it off, had homemade "teacakes" which you probably never heard of! Also attended my husband's 50th class reunion! No life? However, in EVERYTHING I DO, I "PUT GOD FIRST!"

      "Get out more?" GOD placed me on HP to speak to IGNORANCE ("twisted beliefs") and tell them THERE IS ONLY "ONE WAY" FOR "RECONCILIATION" TO THE CREATOR AND THAT IS: "AFTER THE CROSS!"

      Who BUT GOD can give a 65 year old woman enough energy (while taking chemo) to speak TRUTH to sheep? Who BUT GOD can give me WORD to say which enables me to post 30+ comments in a day? Who BUT GOD could "bring all these things to my remembrance?" Who BUT GOD has spoken in HIS WORD (which I give)?

      Who but "you" (and those like you; II Corinthians 4:4) don't believe?

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      Eric Dierker 11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Cool Norine, it is good to learn a little more about you. Just a suggestion. Maybe you could try weaving some of your own life into your comments. My understanding is that Jesus taught in parables about the lives of people and how we can view them. So this might work better for you than quoting and yelling. But here is a fun one: When Jesus taught to 5 thousand men at once He must of had to raise his voice to be heard.

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      Norine Williams 11 months ago

      Eric you have a "carnal" mentality! Who cares about me? I'm not here to tell you how much education I have, how much money I have, how many children, grandchildren and great grandchildren I have, how nice my husband is to me and how long we've been married, how my sisters and I came from nothing to accomplish "things" in the world, where I came from and/or what "my views" are on political and social matters, BUT GOD placed me on HP to tell ALL HE IS TIRED of RELIGION which has LOST MOST SOULS! (WOW! That is the longest sentence I've ever written! lol)

      We are spirits! It doesn't matter what "we've accomplished" in this world! It only matters that we prepare ourselves for "RECONCILIATION" to the CREATOR! It only matters that we learn how to show the world the supernatural POWER that we have so unbelievers will NEVER have to ask "Is there a God?" It only matters that we "GO BACK" (Isaiah 28:13) and "WAIT" (Acts 1:4) for the POWER (Acts 1:8) of the HOLY SPIRIT Who will HELP us (John 14:26; 16:13) so they (unbelievers) can see "signs and wonders" in our lives. We should be able to show (with evidence) the Supernatural POWER of GOD!

      The Prophet Ezekiel speaks of "dry bones" and RELIGION has "taught" the POWER of GOD is "demonic" which prohibits "Christians" to be anything other than!

      I pray!

      Yes! "Jesus spoke in parable" so much until if one didn't "WAIT," they don't understand what HE SAID (Matthew 13:10-13) as they DON'T - TODAY! RELIGION has "taught" ALL to forget the HELP HE SENT and to use "your brain" to figure out what HE SAID which is AGAINST WORD. The WORD of GOD is not just WRITTEN for "good reading," but our WAY TO RIGHTEOUSNESS! GOD TOLD US in John 4:23:24 {paraphrasing} "They that WORSHIP HIM (Studying HIS WORD is "worshiping" also; MUST REPEAT: "MUST!") worship HIM in SPIRIT and in TRUTH!"

      In Romans 10, GOD SAID "Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the WORD of GOD!" GOD SPEAKS through HIS WORD! When I quote HIS WORD, I'm letting you know what GOD is SAYING and HAS SAID regarding a particular issue! I'm not "YELLING," (although the world perceives capitalization in writing as "yelling") rather placing "EMPHASIS" on WHO (GOD) and WHAT (WORD) HE HAS SAID!

      If "FAITH comes by hearing" and MOST don't take the time to read HIS WORD, I pray that WORD I quote "INCREASES ONE'S FAITH" or at least give them the desire to go to Scripture to "See if these things are so" (Acts 17:11)!

      "Quoting?" I'm giving HIS WORD which is GOD SPEAKING! Isaiah 8:20 says " To the law and testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them." Why then would you not want to hear someone who is giving "LIGHT" if a "Christian?"

      Your belief that "When Jesus taught to 5 thousand men at once He must of had to raise his voice to be heard" is exactly how you continue to demonstrate your "carnality!" JESUS didn't need a "microphone!" Does HE use one when speaking to you - TODAY! GOD IS SPIRIT and ALL can hear HIM, "IF" they "LISTEN!" I wish you could move into the "Spiritual" realm, leave "your understanding" (brain) behind and "LISTEN!" GOD SPEAKS! Just slow down from your flesh, and "LISTEN!" That's funny but I write what I "HEAR!"

      I love you ERIC! GOD has great things in store for you, "IF" you "LISTEN!"

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      Eric Dierker 11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Norine I think you are doing a great job at this; " I wish you could move into the "Spiritual" realm, leave "your understanding" (brain) behind"

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      Norine Williams 11 months ago

      Then I "ALIGN WITH HIS WORD" for HE SAID in Proverbs 3:5 "TRUST in the LORD with ALL thine HEART (Did HE SAY "Trust in "your brain" and what "you think?"); and LEAN "NOT" TO "YOUR OWN" UNDERSTANDING" (Did HE SAY "Lean to "your brain" so "you" could get an "understanding?")!

      Eric, again I say "leave your flesh behind and move into the Spiritual realm" to become like GOD and not like Eric! If "when you open your mouth and HE SPEAKS through it," HE SUPERSEDES your brain and mine with KNOWLEDGE! Are you serious? Your's or mine against THE CREATOR'S? If "you think" GREATER, you are a bigger "FOOL" than I thought you were!

      STOP talking "IGNORANT!" Just because you've been "taught" the HOLY SPIRIT does not speak to anyone, doesn't make it RIGHT! GOD SAYS in I Corinthians 2:10 "But GOD has REVEALED them unto us by HIS SPIRIT: for the Spirit searcheth ALL THINGS, yea, the DEEP THINGS of GOD!" What? HE "REVEALS by the HOLY SPIRIT?" So HE MUST SPEAK!

      You went to school to get your doctorate degree because you were hungry for knowledge, yet when it comes to ETERNAL LIFE you DON'T CARE?

      You MUST be hungry for Spiritual life!

      1. Repent (Acts 2:38)

      2. Thirst (Jn 7:37; Matthew 5:36)

      3. Ask HIM (Matthew 7:7; James 4:3; Luke 11:13)

      4. Open Mouth & Magnify HIM (Worship) to receive individual impartation! (Ps 81:10)

      5. Yield (Give way or "slow down in flesh") John 21:15-16 "Feed my sheep!" Fearful of what we have to lay down and pick up on HIS behalf! But I assure you "Exceedingly, abundantly above all that you should ask" will be received. The Holy Spirit is not as you've been "taught" Something to fear because of "demonic" actions but your "COMMUNICATION LINE" to GOD!

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      Frank Atanacio 11 months ago from Shelton

      Eric this Sunday Sermon can grab you and shake some reality into ones bones.. I know it is a dicey subject.. but your words spins it into something tangible.. awesome sermon my friend..:)

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      Norine Williams 11 months ago

      John 12:43 "For they loved the praise of men more than the praise of GOD." Something in my spirit tells me ALL of these "praises of men" is WRONG! GOD has revealed it is! HE will give me Scripture to confirm what HE HAS SPOKEN to me is true! As I stated previously, I opened my mouth to my aunt and told her "I am righteous by FAITH" not knowing at the time it was in Scripture but later found it in Scripture! Again, I am opening my mouth to tell ALL "praise of man" is AGAINST GOD!

      We should GIVE GOD the GLORY, not "man!"

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      Eric Dierker 11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Frank you are a great comfort to me in your comments. I am such a nervous Nelly about publishing and you build me up. Thank you. We suffer from things as humans. I think it is good if we let others know we are not that much different.

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      Eric Dierker 11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Sorry Norine, you are so droll that I just cannot stomach your ranting so I did not read. I hope it is therapeutic for you. I wonder if you have ever made a difference to anyone here on HP. I must admit you have for me. You are proof that some people are just a little, shall we say, eccentric.

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      Lawrence Hebb 11 months ago from Hamilton, New Zealand

      Eric

      I realized a long time ago that 'Hating' someone or something is just too much hard work!

      I mean you've got to keep that 'feeling' manufactured and try to remember all the wrongs the person or thing has done and it's just too much like hard work!

      Don't get me wrong, I'm not any better than anyone else and I've had lots of practice at that 'remembering the wrongs' and working on the hatred, but it's just too hard so I'm not going to bother with it.

      By the way, remember back in the sermon on the Mount where Jesus refers to a teaching of 'Love your friends' he's actually referring to a phrase the Jews had of 'Love your friends and hate your enemies' but Old JC turned it around and said "Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you!"

      I've seen people consumed by hate and unforgivness and see the way they pay for it in later life and I just don't want to go there!

      Having said that I think this was a good hub shedding light on an important 'Illness' in society

      Praying for you folks.

      Lawrence

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      Norine Williams 11 months ago

      Listen y'all! You think GOD'S "LOVE" (Agape) equates to man's love? Do you think HIS "HATE" equates to yours? Y'all are talking apples and oranges! HIS "LOVE" is unconditional! HIS HATE can be compared to the parable of "The Prodigal Son" (Hate the action but long for the soul's return)!

      This is the way I "HATE" you all's beliefs (TWISTED) not you all! I consider you all children who have been deceived by popes and pastors! I have compassion for ALL because they don't KNOW! They've been "taught!"

      The same it is when one has GOD'S "LOVE" after being "Filled" with HIS HOLY SPIRIT; you "correct" with HIS WORD! Hebrews 12:11 "Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward in yieldeth the "peaceable" fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby." So then, one will "see" me (my actions) in a whole different light when one agrees with HIS WORD (not me)! For I have "the mind of Christ:" ALL "LOVE!" Consequently, when one obtains "the mind of Christ" (aka Holy Spirit), there's NO "HATE" just HIS kind of "LOVE" (agape/unconditional)!

      LOVE

      IF one has "Filled" with the Holy Spirit, they have "The Mind of Christ" (Phil 2:5-11)

      Blessings

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      Eric Dierker 11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Lawrence,

      I am pleased for your avoidance of hate altogether. In the states here we are being focused on the nastiness of hate by our media and politicians. I just do not see it in my ordinary life. I am sure it is there.

      Perhaps we can just reach a point of growth where we just kind of see no use for hate at all and our brain just tunes it out. I am trying to recall a moment where I felt the hate in the recent past and I just can't find it.

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      Eric Dierker 11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Interesting Norine that you think you have the powers to understand God's love and hate. You are such that you can understand God's plan. Somewhere around Exodus 7 God set it up where Aaron would speak for Moses. Because Moses basically had a hard time speaking well so that he could be understood. Maybe since you are so obnoxious in your communication skills you could get somebody to communicate for you. Maybe then people would "listen" to you.

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      Norine Williams 11 months ago

      It is not for ALL to listen or "hear" Eric (Matthew 13:5)! I don't have "the powers" to understand anything BUT GOD (II Corinthians 3:5) speaks through me via HIS WORD! Moses had "a hard time speaking" CARNALLY, but GOD "revealed" everything to HIM and Aaron was only his physical "mouthpiece" as I for GOD! I'm sure your children see you as "obnoxious" also when you communicate things that are against their belief. GOD communicates through me via HIS WORD but if you can't "hear" (Matthew 13:5) you need to ask HIM to open your "ears" for ONLY HE can "draw you" (John 6:44)

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      Eric Dierker 11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Well Norine I asked God and He just said to ignore you -- but I can't help myself and only delete two thirds of your comments.

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      Norine Williams 11 months ago

      That's that "flesh" (Romans 8:8) telling you to "delete!" GOD said "ignore" which means "leave IT [AS] WRITTEN!" You don't want to "DO ANYTHING" to "cause your brothers to stumble" (Romans 14:13-23) do you?

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      Eric Dierker 11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Norine you are right -- you cause others and myself to stumble.

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      Rich Kelley 11 months ago from The Ekklesia

      Rev 12:10 I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, “Now the salvation, the power, and the Kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Christ has come; for the accuser of our brothers has been thrown down, who accuses them before our God day and night.

      Eric there comes a point when the spirit of God tells you to constantly be challenged in everything you say and do is wrong. You know that, I know that and everyone that takes the time to read your hubs and posts knows that. The God of the scriptures does not appoint self righteous finger pointers to constantly correct and demean others. The only accuser of the believers that I know of is known as satin.

      When people refuse to listen to reasonable counsel from others and constantly accuse others of not understanding English as it is written, or black and white for what it is, they have a very dark spirit about them and should be avoided. To rationalize their beliefs as spiritual and yours and mine as carnal is selfrighteousness at it's finest.

      Deleting post is no different than not letting that person in your house. You or I would not tolerate the verbal abusive behavior in our homes or lives and we should not tolerate it on the internet either. I love free speech and served 22 years so that we all can express ourselves with others. I don't always agree with others and others don't always agree with me but there is a line that when crossed become abusive and should not be tolerated. It has nothing to do with spiritual or carnal, it has to do with bad manners and selfrighteous judgement of others.

      In some cases the delete key is all we have to keep the trash out of our lives.

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      Eric Dierker 11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Thank you for that Rich. Well we don't always see eye to eye but I, without exception, learn from you. Your counsel is welcome and appreciated. You gave me pause for some self reflection and I hope I can use it to do better.

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      Kiss andTales 11 months ago

      RICK KELLY refreshed my soul ! Thank you for that wonderful comment. I just hope that I have not been another example of a rudeness of your wonderful comment! MY point is to walk beside Jesus in truth. People are in bondage of false information .Jesus has not stop talking ! He is very much alive! and he wants many and all to live ! It has to be done accurate not with lies .

      So no one will be able to say I did not know

      He will judge the truth of what we did know and what we refuse to do.

      I say no more I am just at peace with your comment thank you.

      Hi Eric you are a good person just wanted you to know!

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      Eric Dierker 11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Thank you Kiss & Tales for an uplifting and caring comment. What a blessing that God made us all so different and yet with the ability to learn and share with each other. For we are different yet all the same.

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      Kiss andTales 11 months ago

      Thank you Eric.

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      Norine Williams 11 months ago

      "Birds of a feather flock together" (Ps 119:63)!

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      Eric Dierker 11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Hey Ms. Williams how come I don't see anybody flocking around you?

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      Norine Williams 11 months ago

      Because "...wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to DESTRUCTION, and MANY (birds) there be to find it" (Matthews 7:13)!

      "Whacka, whacka!"

      "Looney Tunes!"

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      Eric Dierker 11 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      That is just a real boo boo phrase. Road narrow, road wide is so misused. I have skipped down both happy roads to destiny and found them both refreshing and invigorating. It is wonderful if we have broad choices from the many that will please God. You are very narrow and you are a path to destruction.

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