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Eric's Sunday Sermon; Of Trump and Sanders and The Rest of Us

Updated on April 10, 2016

Sometimes it is the contrast of the colors that creates beauty

But it is also how those colors go together.
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Sometimes it is all about perspective

You say this is not a sermon. Good for you. It has a purpose. I hope it gives pause to think. Try not to argue with it but rather contemplate it. It reflects on our own self.

Truly an amazing juxta positioning. We look at Trump and Sanders. Notice I did not say Trump verses Sanders. No I am not going down that road. Let us look at what Sanders and Trump have in common. I have a wonderful 30 year old son and I credit him with teaching me much over the thirty years. He is adamant that Trump is a vehement hate monger like a Hitler and that Bernie only wants what is best for all of us except those he targets as bad. And of course those that he targets are bad in my son’s eye. My son is passionate. Need I mention he is a San Francisco Bay resident and an artist for a living. So I will constantly be thinking of him and his positions as I write this.

We as a species want so badly to say how horrible other people are. I wish it were not so because most really are not. Why must we attack a position instead of just promoting one? Our ideas should be better because they are better not because another’s is bad. Attraction to a position rather than defilement of the opposite.

I have been alive and conscious of my surrounding well into 5 decades. I am youngest of six so I was more yanked up than raised up. My opinion meant nothing in the family setting for 2 of my decades, and that carried on through custom to the rest of my decades. A fact of life of a big family. So I was raised being told what to think. And not a word what I thought. In this kind of situation you read by empathy and discernment what is expected and act accordingly. And so we look at what Bernie and Donald want and we find pretty much the same thing.

That must sound strange to politicos and hyper little followers of one or the other. “But he is a heartless capitalist” or “he is a bleeding heart liberal”. Great hyperbole and fun for the media and social media and sound bites but divisive.

We do love here and we judge only insofar as we discern not so far as to pass judgment. It is so easy to fall into the trap of I hate and make delineations and differences. But for me I look for the variety for beauty and the similarity for harmony. Wow these two are the same.

Every rose is different yet they all share some things

I like how the rose stands out with the hard granite background.
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Maybe take a different look at others

Let us break down some issues it will be fun. First let us get rid of the obvious. Both of these men are extremely well achieved and very bright. Both of these men want to be President of the United States. Both these men have a passion about what they think is right. Both these men are well educated. Both these men love family. Both these men love the United States of America. Both these men are mature over 60 years of age. Both these men have some religiosity. Both these men have wives who are not running for President of the United States and therefor take somewhat of a backseat. Both these men were born white and in the United States of America. Neither of these men know how it is to live in poverty. Neither of these men have faced a life threatening disease and survived. Neither of these men have physically fought for our nation as soldiers, sailors, marines or airmen. Neither of these men fought in Vietnam. Both profess to believe in God. Both men have a driver drive them places. Neither man rides a subway to work. Both men appear in reasonably good health. Both men are winners.

Wow I thought that would be short but all of the sudden I saw two men very much alike and a whole lot like me on a different scale. I would invite either over to a dinner and enjoy their company while I imagine they would enjoy mine. I would trust my 6 year old son to either of them. I would ask either of them advice. Holy cow. I kind of like them both. But I now have two buddies that are very much the same and yet very different. Guess what I have four children and they are very much alike and yet very different.

This feels kind of good so let us venture into something different. No not differences just some issues.

Illegal is illegal and should suffer the consequences.

Both men have told us that illegal conduct should be punished. Both men were asked if violations of the law should have legal consequences and both agreed that it should. That is cool. One was more of a civil disobedient guy and the other a corporate disobedient guy. One got “detained” and the other got bankrupted. But they both stood tall and took the consequences like a man. (they just don’t happen to be women”) Yet they both bounced back on their feet and carried onward and upward. That is awesome American. They both look at setbacks as stepping stones to better.

Children are precious.

There is no way someone can convince me that either of these men do not love children. I was waiting for some child of Trump’s to come out and say he was an abusive type dad the way rich people quabble. But none have. Bernie just kind of radiates good uncle status.

The status quo of the parties stinks.

Both these guys in their own way have fought the big political party machines. Both have eschewed money that would make them beholding to favors. That is so bitchin cool. It has not happened in my decades of life where it was espoused and then those espousing it rose in the ranks. That gets me excited about both candidates. They are not already bought by special interests. And both these guys are party outsiders and doing it with the muscle of charisma and position. Hooray for both of them!

Immigrant problem

Good for both of them. They both recognize the current system is not working and needs an overhaul.

Taxes

Both agree that taxes need to be adjusted and that the current system is lacking.

Sharing a view from different perspectives

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Just a nice comforting song.

Some common goodness.

Hey whoa there do not get mad at me. I just took the time to point out the similarities. All the hate this and hate that and blame this and blame that does not corrupt the fact that both men have a vision for the country that is not totally opposed to one another.

Back to my elder son and I. The government is already socialist as it is so huge and is involved in so much of our lives. Democratic socialism is not a bad thing in and of its self as long as it demands that the democratic part takes front and center stage. Pure capitalism does not mean the ruin of the working class as long as the democratic part remains in full force and effect.

So there I am a preacher man. I cannot condemn one and vote therefor for another. I just do not get to judge in that way. Oh sure Bernie seems to preach more love, hope and communal living. And Donald seems to preach more revolution and confrontational report. I do not buy into their differences. My children are all different and I love them all differently but the same. I love America and our differences different but just the same.

Conclusion in Sermon

We do a whole lot of fighting. Most of us fight within our own minds. So we look for points of contention. We like to think the devil on our right shoulder is fighting with the angel on our left shoulder. Our worlds are built on confrontation and dispute. I am sorry to tell you that love is built on the notion of finding similarities and not differences. Sure celebrate diversity but concentrate on sameness. I am sorry to burst your political bubble but Bernie and Donald share more than they are different. If that saddens you, then look to why it does. As for me – I love them both.

This is an unpopular idea but it is worth noting. Politicians point out the differences in each other. They pay people to do that for them so you think you are getting a clear choice. But in reality we do not have that big of a choice. That does not sadden me or cause me depression that I really do not have a choice, that it is rigged. It makes me happy to know that people are really not all that different. And the vast, vast majority of us are good.

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      Harish Mamgain 12 months ago from India

      I loved this sunday sermon for its human touch. I relished your powerful style of writing. Eric, you made my sunday bright and soothing. Thank you for this awesome sermon.

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      Eric Dierker 12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Thank you Harish, I am very glad you enjoyed it. It is good to hear from you.

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      Kathryn L Hill 12 months ago from LA

      Hi Eric. So, it is Sunday and I read your sermon in bed instead of going to church! Ha hA! Very powerful all this is isn't it?

      My comment to your sermon, (and WHERE, what church? can one reveal one's own thinking/response to a Preacher's sermon,) is this:

      What is "good" and what is "bad"?

      Good for what, exactly?

      Bad for what?

      You might explain, with great compassion, to a criminal that he is, in all reality, a good person deep down, but what he is doing is bad for himself and for society.

      In the same way, one of these men will be either bad or good for the role in which he will be placed.

      Which man will be good for the nation. Let's leave out bad for the nation.

      Which man will be good for the nation?

      The one who has devoured The Federalist Papers and UNDERSTANDS them rightly. The one who understands the key messages from Plato's Republic, Hume's Treatise of Human Nature, Banfeild's The Unholy City Revisited. The one who understands how to help the nation retain its family and religious values and agrees to protect the freedom of each individual to do so, realizing that without these we are absolutely and positively doomed from within … In which case we would have no power to fight whatever is threatening us from without.

      Thanks, Preacher man, Ericdierker, for regarding:

      The Way I See It

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      Eric Dierker 12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Thank you for your comment you give good pause for thought. I don't like to say it but today's church sermon could have been missed by me. Probably the sermon was fine -- I better take a look at me.

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      Clive Williams 12 months ago from Nibiru

      Politricks and sermon eric? Good combination. It's like good vs evil. God vs the devil. Politics is just a trick for the people. They care nothing for the vast majority but simple wish to have their own agenda accomplished.

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      Ruby Jean Fuller 12 months ago from Southern Illinois

      Well, I must admit that you have a different perspective and I listened. No matter the subject, you make a whole bunch of sense. Sometimes I do feel sorry for Trump, the media asks him questions and doesn't give him time to think it through, thus, he makes blunders. I love Bernie. He is a sweet man with good intensions. I think God has a plan for the world, so I don't sweat it. I enjoyed the Ocean video. I haven't heard that song in years. Thank you....

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      Eric Dierker 12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      It is very interesting Clive. I hope I did not bend one way or the other. Even in politics we have to try and find the good in people.

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      Eric Dierker 12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      I am with you Ruby, I just can't sweat it. Seems like a lot of very talented people doing their best out there.

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      Kathryn L Hill 12 months ago from LA

      … doing their best is not enough if they are not educated. Good intentions often pave the way to hell.

      True education involves the reality of God. Does God want tyranny and loss of Indiviual autonomy?

      N O !!

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      Shannon 12 months ago from Texas

      I really love reading your work, Eric, because it is thought-provoking. Your perspective on life is so refreshing to me. I wish that people would spend more time focusing on the best in others instead of always looking for the worst. If this happened every day and especially in politics, wouldn't people be so much happier? Instead, people let differences divide.

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      Eric Dierker 12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Kathryn what wonderful words. Powerful and forceful. I agree with you.

      But I fall short of condemning in order to actuate your sentiments.

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      Kathryn L Hill 12 months ago from LA

      "But I fall short of condemning …" condemning what? in order to actuate my sentiments ... which are?

      and what did you mean by this:

      "I don't like to say it but today's church sermon could have been missed by me. Probably the sermon was fine -- I better take a look at me." ?

      I loved your sermon!

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      Eric Dierker 12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Shannon, I am listening to a musical piece by someone who's politics are different than mine. But her music is excellent. Thought provoking and intimate. I just cannot find myself declining love for difference. We are so blessed to have such diversity.

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      Kathryn L Hill 12 months ago from LA

      Maybe you are afraid of hate, fear and of negativity in general. And for a good reason: these attitudes will block reality feedback within. This is what you are promoting, as it is the job of a preacher. Thank you for being such a good preacher. But preachers might not give us the power to discern accurately when the time comes to make a decision. :-D

      It is great fun to poke a preacher. :-)

      Thanks!

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      Eric Dierker 12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Kathryn. I just sat in church and did not like the sermon. So I go through a checklist to decide what is wrong with my reception. Like this sermon I should find something good in the sermon -- so why not? I still don't get it, but it will be revealed.

      I think we get to be afraid. It is kind of like a right. We are given to fear. And as we say brave is not, not having fear it is overcoming it.

      I like to preach and I like God. God gives me critical thought through good folk like you. I just love being called by friends to standfast. A vacuum is not love. Love is each of us challenging each other to do better.

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      Kathryn L Hill 12 months ago from LA

      Love is encouraging others toward the truth. You have taken a step on the path of discernment, which is advocated in the Bible. You have overlooked one thing, but that one thing has been the query of philosophers for eons:

      What is The GOOD?

      Some take for granted what "the good" is. Some have an intuitive instinct of what is good.

      Some can manipulate what the good is and can twist and turn the definition.

      In my mind, the good is this: Doing unto others as you would have others do unto you.

      We must know the underlying intentions of both of these men. If Sanders cares mostly about himself, it will be hard to tell. He can say one thing and mean another. Same with Trump. Our discernment is based on our own intuitive receptivity: unblocked by hatred, as you ave advocated.

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      Eric Dierker 12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      It is interesting about good. I never question it for myself. There is no internal debate. However with social interaction it can be called to question.

      Love and goodness are so varied and many. If we look for them we can find them. If we try not to we can do that also.

      Yes I hope that here we gave room to look for the good. If we find it and recognize it that is good for us.

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      Evleen Sharma 12 months ago

      Our ideas should be better because they are better not because another’s is bad. Attraction to a position rather than defilement of the opposite.

      http://www.discoveryofunknown.com/hindu-mantra-for...

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      Eric Dierker 12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Thank you for coming by and sharing that link with us Evleen.

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      Devika Primić 12 months ago from Dubrovnik, Croatia

      You have a powerful mind! I like that song and everything remains to be seen.

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      Bill Holland 12 months ago from Olympia, WA

      Demonizing one or the other is ridiculous. We might as well demonize ourselves, and I'm not ready to do that. :) Right on as always, buddy.

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      Eric Dierker 12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Hi Devika. Thank you for your most gracious compliment. It makes my day brighter.

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      Eric Dierker 12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Thank you Bill for your support. I really tried to get into the concept of bashing. It gave me a headache. I don't like headaches so I don't like bashing.

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      Dora Isaac Weithers 12 months ago from The Caribbean

      Trump and Sanders in a sermon? But then you added the rest of us. We're all involved and if we didn't know how, you showed us. At the end of the day, each has something to like and something to hate. We have our work cut out to decide who gets the vote.

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      Eric Dierker 12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Hi Dora, when I think of the possibilities I just have to look to the good. I really like my life and that is made possible by my country. And we will carry on.

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      Linda Lum 12 months ago from Washington State, USA

      Eric - You've accomplished something that I didn't think was possible. You've humanized Donald Trump. However, no matter how you slice it, we all have a lot of praying to do between now and November. Thanks for another great hub.

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      Frank Atanacio 12 months ago from Shelton

      sometimes it is all about perspectives Eric... gives us something to contemplate.. and so does your Sunday..errr Thursday sermon..LOL.. but like who we are at all times and that is non negotiable.. awesome my friend

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      Eric Dierker 12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Linda it is just plain hard to look at politicians and not immediately dislike them. Sides don't matter much to me. So I just had to sit down and look for the neutral. Drove my son crazy I did not pick a side. Lol. My wife and I agreed to pray on it rather than argue it.

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      Eric Dierker 12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Frank thanks for coming by. Your story this morning is still in my head, wow how you can paint a picture with words.

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      Dana Tate 12 months ago from LOS ANGELES

      This was a very good read Eric, pointing out the similarities between these two candidates gives your readers food for thought. There are many things I admire about Trump, however, he reminds me too much of Bush for me to be able to trust him as my President.

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      Eric Dierker 12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Hi Dana, I think while this sermon was a little strange, it got us to think about all of us just being people first. The politics of the matter are a whole different matter.

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      Lawrence Hebb 12 months ago from Hamilton, New Zealand

      Eric

      A very clever and encouraging piece showing just how similar the two 'opposites' really are!

      I really enjoyed the hub and the different view of these two men. I'm also glad I don't have to vote in this election.

      Have a great week.

      Lawrence

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      Eric Dierker 12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Thanks much Lawrence, you have a great week also.

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      Mel Carriere 12 months ago from San Diego California

      Bitchin Cool, as all your stuff is bitchin cool. May I borrow that quote? I largely agree with your assessment. One thing that is bitchin cool about both candidates is that both want to keep American jobs in America. One thing I find bitchin cool about Bernie is that he has gotten young people excited about politics for the first time I can remember. My 23 year old son has never voted, and now he is going to Bernie rallies and getting registered up to participate. Whether one agrees with Bernie or not, it is excited to see how he is waking the youngsters up. Bitchin cool sermon, preacher, have a marvelous Sunday.

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      Eric Dierker 12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Mel that is a great thing and the same for my youngest adult child. I am all for anything that gets them interested and excited.

      Maybe some day we will even become a city over here in Sprung Valley. Nah!

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      Missy Smith 12 months ago from Florida

      Goodness me, I have to say, I have really never given a thought to look at these two men in such a similar way, because we see them both with such different personalities. However, you did well to make some valid points.

      Today, my dad and I were talking about Bernie and Donald, and like your son, I made my case for Bernie, and I probably will valiantly think he is the right person for the job no matter these similarities you point out. My dad thinks a total different view. He thinks we need a business man instead of a politician maybe to run this United States. Although, he still hasn't made a positive choice on who he will vote for when time comes.

      I see the similarities now, but I'm still compelled to weigh out human kindness over similarities that are maybe there, but put out in very different ways. No matter what, we all see Donald has a lack of human kindness except for, like you say, his children and his own people; the people who vote for him that is. The rest of us are nothing to him, and he will probably tell his supporters to shoot us up if he doesn't win. Yes, that is extreme, but that's what he has shown us with his personality.

      However, Bernie has always shown us compassion within his soul. Donald is smart in business, yes. I do give him kudos in that area, but Bernie has definitely got him beat on the issues brought forth to the table by us, the citizens of the United States. Donald stumbles and cannot make a solid plan of action. Let's be honest here; building walls and punishing women?? No, we just become as bad as some of the other countries when we take this inhumane approach to life, our lives as Americans to be clear.

      However, I do get your points, and now that I think about it; I believe Bernie is a wise old soul, because I believe he is open to see it the way you do. Bernie has always said, if anyone can run strong for the Presidency against Mr. Trump, it would be me. Yes, Bernie would even get your point of view, but, for me, I can't vote on merely those points. I'll have to go with value of others more than value of an ego-driven authority; this is where Bernie and Donald do not have any similarity.

      Let's face it; Donald has a high ego. He always informs us of his authority over all areas; even his big you know what, and I don't want a president who gets up talking this way, and one that retaliates against his own American people because they don't see his view, and want to vote for him. Remember how he makes fun of people with handicaps? Yeah, I don't care if he was the smartest man alive, I wouldn't want him to be President.

      I guess the similarities are there in many ways, but there is so much more to both these men, that need to be taken into account as far as the Presidency is concerned. However, very interesting hub. I enjoyed reading it. :)

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      Eric Dierker 12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Thank you for adding such an interesting and insightful discussion to this hub. I am glad elections are a ways off. Plenty of time to observe our choices in action.

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      ahorseback 12 months ago

      The one thing that has surpassed politics lastly is the one main thing that you possess first , a true love of people , neither of these two candidates possess it . One a profit oriented businessman , the other a 60's junior high school class president , I am not impressed by either one ......that being said , I always look to your words of wisdom - you sir, never let me down !

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      Eric Dierker 12 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Thank you buddy. It is interesting how they can show so much passion for their positions and yet not exude the love. I wonder about such things. Like folks in TV shows -- what are they really like?

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      Mona Sabalones Gonzalez 9 months ago from Philippines

      Well done! By comparing these two men to your sons and your family, you have shown a side of them that exists beyond the politics. I enjoyed this article very much.

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      Eric Dierker 9 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Hi Mona, great to hear from you. Sometimes it is fun to look at people who seem bigger than life -- in a personal way.

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      Mona Sabalones Gonzalez 9 months ago from Philippines

      True, Eric:). But at the same time, you show that they are human, and not very different from all of us as well. Your perspective allows for deeper insight.

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      Eric Dierker 9 months ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Hi Mona, thanks for coming by. I just love to ponder on the similarities of people who we as society peg as so different. It is fun in my home. My wife and I are so different - yet we generally have the same goals.

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