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Eric's Sunday Sermon; Our Requirement of Secular Faith

Updated on March 12, 2017

Me and my buddy here go to church

I don't think he has faith in much of anything outside family. Trust and faith take time.
I don't think he has faith in much of anything outside family. Trust and faith take time. | Source

Faith maybe a concept all it's own

If that sounds strange to you, you will like this piece. If it sounds right on the money you will like this piece. Let us explore the wonderful world of human faith.

Jump back my cowboy and cowgirl friends. Faith is what you have in me to write an article that is worth reading. I have no faith in my local big grocery store to take care of me. Don’t tell anyone but no matter how well I am doing I do not have faith in my government representatives. I love Susan Davis and have voted for her going on 1 billion times but….

For sure folks generally associate faith with God. And perhaps they should, but I suspect that is a result of religious usurpation of a concept. (I just love using Google and typing in a word and getting a definition – usually a fairly bad one ;-) But take this for what it is worth: “complete trust or confidence in someone or something. "this restores one's faith in politicians"?. Synonyms; trust, belief, confidence, conviction. That is what is listed numero uno. Nothing about God or religion or spirituality – wait – or is it? Me thinks this has some traction as an issue with secular faith. Oh what the heck? Let us go down this rabbit hole of a notion and see if we do not hit close to home on some of the thoughts.

“If it is not empirically and logically proven I do not believe it”. For sure we all get that. Maybe sometimes I lack faith in my little guy first grader, he kind of has to prove stuff sometimes or ELSE. But regardless of how that pans out there is a constant still between us. Yes that little four letter word, love. I have faith in his love for me and I am pretty sure he has faith in this big old softie’s love for him. Most folks think of God as an entity. Many of us think God is just pure love made manifest in man through God which is love. More energy than matter for sure.

In my home we think that cleaning and maintaining things from cars to clothing to our bodies make them work properly. So after we remain vigilante, our cars start, our clothing looks good and we stay healthy. There is just no two ways about it that around here we believe that good care creates a faith that things will work right. The rarity where this is not true is miniscule.

Baby if I had a hammer

I have faith that it will continue to rain

And faith the sun shall shine.
And faith the sun shall shine. | Source

Faith in others

I have faith that the sun will rise tomorrow. Many not too bright people will tell you that is not faith but rather proven by some sort of scientific facts. They would be either very ignorant or lying to you. Totally false that there is any proof that the sun will appear in our sky tomorrow. Please that is just natural fact. But I have yet to meet a scientist who was not working on something that would not be completed before the sun rises tomorrow. And most have savings accounts and even children with no proof that the sun will appear again tomorrow. Sorry but Steven Hawkins has faith that the sun will rise tomorrow. And I hope you do also.

We have so much faith in ourselves that we literally have moved mountains sans miracle. We have faith that our food is safe to eat and our water safe to drink. The faith part is proven when so many people eat adulterated food and contaminated water. They assumed which is just another word for faith. Would you possibly strap your child into your car without faith that a drunk driver will not ram you and kill you both? How about those crazy light switches in the middle of the night.

I read novels based primarily on two things that are important. First my previous experience with the author and second someone else’s recommendation. I have faith in both. Perhaps you are reading right now and thinking this will go nowhere to a conclusion of any insight. Or perhaps you have an experience here that makes you think the wasted time reading this may profit you in some way. Thanks for your faith in me. Two issues with my wife. She will always tell the truth, I have full faith in this. And she will not care whose feelings she hurts in expressing the truth. The past secures my faith in the future. Not logical just faith. Shooting craps is a completely random concept. The dice could just as logically add up to 4 100 times in a row as 1 time. A gambler has a faith that it will or will not.

Grandma we have faith is now in heaven

And we have faith that our love will not change.
And we have faith that our love will not change. | Source

Down south here where it is hard to know Mexico from down the street we have faith good lives are possible.

I got the faith baby -- join me!

How about our health and the health of loved ones. How many times have we seen, in theatrics or real life that, the one on their deathbed proclaims “if I would have only known I would have…” It totally shows a faith that the death will occur and is logical. But why am I preparing to plant my garden, or even my son’s meal? I don’t think we bet that life continues, but instead we have great faith that it will. Without faith we have no secular reason to accept 1 hour from now and certainly not 20 years.

I think we have to come out and say that secular faith is exactly the same faith as spiritual faith. They are both a leap of faith. Just because religions use the term as though it is only their word to use does not mean the secularist should shy from it in their own lexicon and understanding. I had two oncologists once. One gave my odds of survival at about 60%, the other at 3%. But both were willing to take on the chemotherapy and fight the odds. I picked the one with 3%. The reason was simple, that doc had more faith based on odds. Others like the other because it gave them more hope. Hope and faith are different. I would say in my secular and spiritual lives I generally do not hope for, I have faith that. Just a point of thought.

Well folks I do hope that you read the forgoing with a grace of accepting that it was totally with a desire to spawn thought. There is this deal that comes down pretty heavy; “faith, hope and charity” and the greatest of these is charity. Here I use a Catholic meaning of charity which is love, that is made manifest which is the only real love.

So there we have it as so often is the case. Faith can be like a mathematical equation that has proven true time and time again. Or it could be like a dude like me sees it. A knowledge that through love things will continue and faith will always be restored.

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      ahorseback 6 weeks ago

      Eric my friend , If we didn't have simple faith , would we not have nothing at children , love , hope , pain ,pleasure , sharing , isn't the fabric of faith so woven within our very existence as to render our existence real in itself. I believe that even an atheists must dwell heavily in the realm of faith . You are as right as rain to a farmer ! By the way how is that disease , I hope you are well ? I can neither recall enough the lines of a prayer than the lines of an anthem to feel I belong in any church choir but I am thoroughly convinced that whether in this life or the next , faith will shine ! Be well my friend on the other side of America .

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      manatita44 6 weeks ago from london

      A very expansive look at Faith. Diversity is no bad thing. To know that Love still sources all is overpowering and deeply fulfilling. Have a great evening.

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      Eric Dierker 6 weeks ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Ed it is great to hear from you. I can tell by your writing you are doing well. That cancer was back in the 90's and totally cured. You made me just think that maybe a way to look at faith is, the absence of worry. We got fogged in at the coast today. But we still got half a dozen keeper rocks and shells.

      It is a strange life I lead meeting up with my 31 year old son, 34 year old daughter so we can all play with my 7 year old. I love that eye shot of one of my favorite animals.

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      Eric Dierker 6 weeks ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Manatita, I am grateful you came by and let me know. That faith deal is possibly genetic, but nurture can shift it around. I like to think that my prayer and meditation kind of cultivate it.

      What a great journey this is and it does me well to share it with good friends like you.

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      Mel Carriere 6 weeks ago from San Diego California

      More energy than matter, you said, and those are some of your wisest words yet. Why do we fly in airplanes - because we have faith the big metal bird will never break down, or because we have faith in the intangible, altogether mystical skill in the pilot, which is impossible to measure and quantify, just as God is. Even secular faith is a religious concept, after all.

      Happy Monday. I have faith today will suck. Hopefully I am wrong.

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      Bill Holland 6 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      I can't imagine a life without faith and love. Really, I can't. I see evidence of their lacking in society, but in my little world, I am surrounded by them.

      And I plan on it being that way until I cash in all my chips and go to the big casino in the sky.

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      Eric Dierker 6 weeks ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Thank you very much Mel. Well even though your day may suck you brought a smile to at least one person. That may be more than I do this week.

      You make me think of another one -- I have faith that my mail will be delivered.

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      Eric Dierker 6 weeks ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Isn't it cool Bill that we really can "build" our world so as to basically vanquish ill will.

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      Randa Awn Handler 6 weeks ago from USA

      It is always nice to read about faith, diversity and hope! Cute pictures too!

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      Dana Tate 6 weeks ago from LOS ANGELES

      Without faith we would be a bunch of humans hiding in our homes and ready to shoot whoever so much as ring our doorbells. We have faith that people we encounter everyday are safe and not murderers . We trust the banks not to run off with our life's savings. We like to say when fear knocks let faith answer. Because if you aren't living by faith than you are living by fear.

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      Eric Dierker 6 weeks ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Thank you much Randa, my little world prioritizes these gifts. I appreciate you supporting me.

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      Eric Dierker 6 weeks ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Dana, in our home we have an amuzing, to me, problem. My wife has absolute faith that God will effect His mercy and great plan upon us. But that does not stop her from being a great big worry wart when it comes to our son. Not me mind you, just the boy.

      Have a great day Dana.

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      Ruby Jean Fuller 6 weeks ago from Southern Illinois

      I can't imagine life without hope and faith. We would live in a humbug existence. Why plant a garden, why make the bed, we're only going to mess it up when we go back to bed? I think the worst part would be our dream's. Take our dream's away and we might as well sit down and refuse to get up. Wonderful message Eric. I'm soo glad you're well..

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      Eric Dierker 6 weeks ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Hi Ruby, this goes right in with our faith and hope. The old cancer is long gone. But we have a new one. There is not much they can do about it. But I can, by being a healthy eating freak and, laughing and loving much and tons of exercise. We laugh that I have been sentenced to a healthy life, oh my.

      But I don't think we have shed a tear over it. Because we are crazy Christians in love with Christ and so we have total hope and faith - that things will follow as God plans. And that is good for us.

      Thanks for being such a good friend. Hey I have some time, I am gonna spend it reading your stuff. See ya.

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      Lori Colbo 6 weeks ago from Pacific Northwest

      Dearest Eric, I have faith that any time I see your name in comments or one of your own hubs I will feel lighter and my glass will be half full as opposed to half empty.

      My greatest faith of course is in God, but I have faith that my appliances will all work each day to keep me comfortable. I have faith my water will run and my commode will flush. I have faith that my family will always love me and that they will always be in my heart. I have faith I am getting older and will one day be among those in heaven. The statistics on death are quite startling. One out of every one persons will die. And I have faith in carpe diem, an opportunity for something good everyday, even when life is so hard you think you'll never make it. A friend one day challenged me to choose three things to be thankful for. I was in such a dark place I could only think of one. I had faith in that dark moment that there was little to be thankful for. She said "Lori, are you wearing shoes right now?" I scratched my head. "Um, ya." Well imagine going through your misery along with no shoes to wear and your feet are cold. That would intensify your misery so thank God for your shoes." So I now have faith that wearing shoes when things are bad will make it less miserable. That was two things. I had to come up with a third. Hmm. I was thankful I had a friend who could bring me up short when I was having a pity party. I had faith in her too.

      Blessings friend. Your photos of the boy...your son?

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      Tim Mitchell 6 weeks ago from Escondido, CA

      A wealth of knowledge to ponder again Eric. Thanks! I went on an adventure yesterday doing a free writing exercise in my journal inspired by this article. It went on it for quite awhile with reflection, introspection, and a bit of looking about too.

      Sharing is one direction I went is I think there are many 'somethings' we have faith in without noticing and some we notice. Many times it is in a time of crisis we notice our faith of this or that is challenged. At times is more than our personal human experience can handle. A solution of that bit of wandering I realized is perhaps there is wisdom with the order of the verse you shared becoming; faith → hope → Love. Anyway, the adventure is a blessing and I thank you for inspiring it.

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      Eric Dierker 6 weeks ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Thank you Lori for your great comment. It is a kind of mantra of mine to repeat; I am grateful for having faith, hope and charity. Then it is simply a matter of waiting out any sort of blues or trials. I am glad that you have such good friends.

      Yes I use pictures of my little one from years past -- He is a big guy now at 7!

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      Eric Dierker 6 weeks ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Hi Tim. It is very nice to share our life journey with each other. You just inspired me to go for that canyon hike today and work through some stuff.

      I am looking forward to it.

      Thank you

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      Faith-Hope-Love 5 weeks ago

      Well said and well written. Enjoyed this and it gave something to contemplate. As you said the catholic and Anglican meaning of charity is Love but more than this, "Charity is the Practice of Love"

      Excellent Piece.

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      Eric Dierker 5 weeks ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      It is so ingrained in us who love. It is like a big Duh. I know those who revel in love and those that eschew it. We are brothers.

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      Dora Isaac Weithers 5 weeks ago from The Caribbean

      "Faith is what you have in me . . . Faith can be like a mathematical equation that has proven true time and time again." Thanks for continually sharing and educating us from your own experience.

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      Eric Dierker 5 weeks ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Dora, thank you. I got nothin. I do not think my good thoughts. That probably sounds crazy and all out there spiritually. But I do not have a muse. But I think a think. And Dr. Seuss and some spirit makes me write and publish.

      I am thinking of taking credit, but that is too scary for me.

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      Lawrence Hebb 2 weeks ago from Hamilton, New Zealand

      Eric

      My favourite definition of faith.

      "Now faith, is being sure of what we hope for, and certain of that which we can't see!'

      Sorry, but no prizes for guessing where it comes from, but for me, it encompasses both the secular and sacred!

      Great hub.

      Lawrence

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      Eric Dierker 2 weeks ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Isn't it great Lawrence to have this thing we call hope that is entangled with this wonderful notion of love. Sometimes I just take for granted good loving friends like you. But where would I be without you?

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