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Eric’s Sunday Sermon; Our Right To Talk To Love

Updated on December 9, 2018
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Holding degrees in philosophy and Law. Formal studies or certificates or degrees in business, theology, insurance and security. Ex-preacher.

Just a Love Flower

I think my wife loved this flower from my garden.
I think my wife loved this flower from my garden. | Source

The Affair

Perhaps there are some that just think love is a kind of chemical and brain function thing hormones secrete via the posterior lobe of the pituitary gland and we label it Oxytocin. But I always love the chicken and the egg questions about the brain. Does something happen and so the brain reacts or does the brain go goo goo and it makes us react. No matter what they say full on love does not work that way.

Maybe sex stuff works that way. That makes sense and in fact that makes for pleasure. I have been married twice, both for over 15 years to date. Check it out. In my country it is average to file for divorce at seven years of marriage. So love ends at seven but I am just lucky? Well for sure I am lucky as my ladies are full on awesome and now my bride is starting to like my old old lady. Well that only took a decade for her insecurity subside. The difference in their age is a bit over 20 years. My elder daughter is closer in age to my princess than I and further in age from her little brother than to me. My son is 8 and the uncle to a sixteen year old, or something like that.

I am a dude that just has one love partner. I understand there are these things called “affairs”, what a weird term for multiple sex partners. “Stay out of my affairs” he yells. What about babies? I have no figure on that with multiple mates.

In some foreign land I was sent a lightning bolt. It just went right through my brain and heart and melded the two. We accept the ancient notion that we call where love resides the heart. Makes no sense accept for tradition. It really is a “being” thing and not a place thing. I like love residing in my home thing the most but folks look at me funny when I say “I love you from the bottom of my home”.

Yesterday my boy and I went all out for the “fun” thing. A rather big hike and other stuff. “Dad I don’t like doing some stuff but I like doing them with you”. And of course I melted like butter in a pan at 200 degrees.

What is this strange “affair” we have with love? Some say that God is a jealous God? Maybe I am having “affairs” with people on earth. If you can wrap your head around that, then I reckon your Oxytocin level is better than mine. Or is it the other way around?

For Sure Love is Timeless

We Practiced

This boy and I had fun "practicing" love yesterday. That is fun!
This boy and I had fun "practicing" love yesterday. That is fun! | Source

Cutting Love Out

So I am one of those 2.5 billion folks who associate with Christ as our Lord. We do OK I think. Some of us grab and hold on tightly to an idea that Christ said, it was written up by one of his student buddies. We call him John. I really can’t speak to the exact nature of the relationship. But John wrote the article that is published in our Bible that pretty much establishes God and Love being the same.

I simply get up in the morning “in” Love. It sometimes makes me an unproductive slob. Not quite the sin of sloth but close I suppose. People close to me like me better when I am in love. Outside of that cocoon I can get downright ugly. Funny thing there as sometimes I get hired to be downright nasty and I focus on it and am quite “productive” at it. If you want me to get out of the love mode and into the tear your head off nasty mode just send me a thousand or two. I wonder if that makes me a “lady of the night”?

So we are sliding backwards into talking to love. We have a term in trekking. When you go up a powdery snow slope or a sand dune each step goes back about half of what you stepped. Same with walking up a river. Sometimes I like to come at concepts that way. I learned a long time ago that trudging in such a fashion lets you slow down and look around.

Now I love salt. Sea water has a bunch of salt. Most cooked foods need some salt. Two of my favorites are apples with salt and watermelon with salt. I had a couple of blood pressure readings that were high. I think we called it “pre” hypertension. So it was obvious that I ditch the salt. Like in about two weeks I was into it and pleased and substitutions were awesome. No processed foods with salt and no cooking with or adding salt. And I kept up my exercise dealy bob.

I hope most get that salt concept. For sure my blood pressure dropped and I felt fine, until I did not. Cramping happened in just about every area of my body, literally from my toes to my head. Not occasional but routine cramping that took at least an hour a day of stretching to resolve and more Ibuprofen than a horse should take. Well let me tell you folks, you need salt. How much and what kind is up to you. That straight forward white or processed foods I call white death. But now I spend at least a half hour a day sweating salt out and luxuriate in salt of a kind of natural kind. I have not had a cramp since.

Both My Babies!

If love got better I would bust a gut!
If love got better I would bust a gut! | Source

Just Boom, Boom, Boom

Talk To Me Lord

After my first wife insisted we not be married anymore and she had her eyes on another, I gave up that kind of love. Why could anything hurt so bad be good? I think it took a year or so but my heart started cramping up on me. Kind of my physical one but of course I mean my loving one.

Living without the spice of loving another in a marriage kind of way is not good for you. Now do not jump to conclusions here please. I will always feel the love of my lovers. I find no need to feel empty and hurt at loss of mutual love with a lady. How about over fifty years to get there? I am a slow learner. But that is the super duper great thing about that love. I now can love my wife without the worry of the hollowness of “if she left me”. The love is no longer attached but a blood flow in my body. I have no right to put a responsibility on another to love me back. Reciprocity in love is a total non-starter.

So In Love we finish

I get to speak to love. Neat how that has a double meaning. But I wake up in the morning sit on my bed and breath deep and chat a bit with love, which to my lazy brain means God. We just toss around ideas for the day. We may even argue a bit. But before I rise up we have a plan. Of course we know that man plans and God laughs. But my plan for the day is a collaboration with love. We have a teamwork and synergism going downtown. Sometimes I scream at love. Sometimes love screams back. But we slam no doors or walk out on our honest to God honesty with each other.

You see I do not just have a right to speak with love, I have a duty and obligation. How would you like it if your loved one did not talk to you? So I keep my door open and my telephone line cleared so love and I can talk any old time.

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      Antonio50S 

      5 days ago

      Eric.

      Better to be a "Love Flower" than a wall flower.

      Will keep in mind all the things you mentioned.

      Peace.

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      Antonio50S 

      5 days ago

      Eric. If you never loved people the way you do, you would never have picked up the way you did.

      You know, as i go about my daily business I'm so careful about the people i mix with now, that may well cause a little cloistering just "for now" but it's a small price to pay for keeping my spirituality & faith in tact.

      You remind me so much of my older brother who's no longer with us. He could speak and teach 8-9 languages which include " Spanish" Italian, French, Greek, ( but it was his personality that literally made him stand out ) we could all be at a wedding or gathering of 5000 people, and he'd be there right in the middle of it all ( outshining ) everybody with his outgoing personality, laughter, sense of humour. Everybody always knew where the party was when he was around. You could hear him. ( I hear you to Eric ) all the women were dazzled by that. Sign of a great personality, like yourself.

      ( Ultreya ) ? That's the best compliment ever. I absolutely love "Christopher Columbus" the "1620's Pilgrims" to name a couple. The Mayflower, Speedwell, Pinta, Nina, Santa Maria :) don't get me going.

      It's funny you mentioning Cloistering, because i love Cloisters as well, maybe not quite the same thing, but that magic of sunlight peering through the columns of Cathedrals, WOW, almost a spiritual experience initself which takes you back to a different world in a different time.

      You know Eric, because of you, i now understand Msdora as well. I always knew she was a great teacher, i guess it was just a brother and sister thing deep down. No real issue as such, but the best lesson of it all ? Any friend of Eric is a friend of mine, you know others by the people they hang out with. Msdora is ( One cool dude ) but don't tell her i said that, what keeps us cool is the humility.

      I will always practice my compliments to people like Dora and yourself, good experience.

      A crazy thought went through my mind a couple of hours ago. "When people and the world gets confusing, we need to go into ourselves & self reflect, because that's where all the answers are, not in the actions of others or our environment" or we can put our arms round a tree, that should bring us back to reality.

      Anyway, i would just like to echo some of the best words ever uttered. "For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain" ( Philippians 1:21 ) I wonder what prompted paul to write them words ? ( Maybe deep springs welling from within ) ? Maybe the man cought up in the third heaven ? Or a combination of all experiences by paul. Either way, what a "privilege" to know the Christ.

      Eric, you and Dora will always be true brothers and sisters to me. "Mammy Blue" was one of my brothers favourite songs. But just before he left us, i ask'd him to listen to "JULIO IGLESIAS version of that song, he loved it. Half way through the song he sings in Spanish ? Or french ? But i know you'll know.

      Tony.

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      Elijah A Alexander Jr 

      5 days ago from Washington DC

      Okay, I see I didn't reach your point, forgive me, the "bad" is on me.

      Existence is maintained by the motion of the tiniest of particles to the entire zeroverse with everything repeating itself over and over unceasingly. The souls, or as I call them, life-forces experiences every individual attribute of every physical type of manifestation beginning with the components of atoms until it become the life-force of the zeroverse.

      We can recognize all animated and plant beings are different is some way, we call them personalities like snow flakes are said to never be two alike [during any storm I say] and every piece of fruit or berry will be different. That also include planets, suns, moons and the zeroverse. Each life-force has to experience being each of those personalities to allow every experiencing every interaction they each experiences, including the zeroverse. That's "karma" and "reaping what you sow".

      Take that concept and apply it to everything in existence then we can see why man [meaning mind able to comprehend and exceed the ability of all things we've experienced] are called god. Before being man the life-force have to experience every attribute of everything on earth including every human/woman [minds unable to comprehend all things] attribute. As human there are 2 genders, 4 primary ethnics, 12 eastern and 12 western zodiac attributes we must experience individually and every conceivable combination then the "born again" metamorphosis brings all of those things to our remembrance.

      I hope that give you an understanding of why Genesis 1 gives us the birth of things in different days, our life-forces migrate through all earthen manifestations beginning with the smallest to the grandest.

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      Eric Dierker 

      5 days ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Sorry dude that does not answer my question to my understanding. Probably you need someone smarter and more enlightened than I. I don't even get what you mean. Bad on me.

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      Elijah A Alexander Jr 

      5 days ago from Washington DC

      As I, so to speak, connect the dots of Daniel being told "he would stand in his lot in the last days", "the dead in Christ will rises first" which are the five foolish virgins killed doing the "War of That Great Day of God Almighty" to become those given the white robes in Rev. 6 as Rev. 14:13 reveals, and the words "the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished" I can only believe in reincarnation.

      I add to that Ecc. 1:9 reading "The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun." Then add Gen. 1:14's reading "Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs [of man on earth's plight[, [like] seasons, days, and years." Then add Paul's "Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap" I can see no way for those things to be true without reincarnation.

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      Eric Dierker 

      5 days ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Elijah I have never got reincarnation in the Bible sense. I just don't see the soul as needing in incarnation. Souls just are. They will always be. And the love part of soul needs no host. So maybe you could break that down for me using traditional verbage.

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      Eric Dierker 

      5 days ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Antonio you have gift. What I like to call a light. Now to my poor recollection I understand that lights should not be put under a basket and that Christ did not send the Apostles 2 by 2 to seek believers but rather to address unbelievers.

      I used to say "preaching to the choir should get claps" and I did as a preacher.

      Best of journey to you, Ultreya, but be careful of cloistering.

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      Elijah A Alexander Jr 

      5 days ago from Washington DC

      Thanks, Eric.

      One thing I realized shortly after I began the Nomad life of following Jesus' example, we will continue to be a work in progress until we become the life-force of the Zeroverse usually called universe. But as soon as the phoenix becomes ashes - we enter during its nest's burning - we leave it to began another incarnating journey.

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      Antonio50S 

      5 days ago

      Thanks Eric.

      That's the direction i want to be heading now. Definitely not a Hub Page person. Plus I'v been interacting with a ministry organisation who publish devotionals. I kind of like the idea of sending some motivational day readings over to them as well.

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      Eric Dierker 

      5 days ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Thanks Elijah I appreciate your explanation. My wife means to be suggestive and polite. It is hard for me to get across to her that her words are not. After 19 years knowing each other perhaps she is trying to see things from another's perspective and tone it down a bit. We are works in progress and I appreciate you progressing with me.

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      Elijah A Alexander Jr 

      5 days ago from Washington DC

      Eric,

      Usually my intention isn't to think for someone except in a few instances where a phrase appears to me to contradict the subject matter and even in such case I attempt to show why? In the process of discussing I do give my view and ask concerning the other person's, as done below, but that isn't telling them how to think, instead it's asking them to show me an alternative. Some people might take that as dictating but it isn't, it is inquiring of them another alternative.

      Thank you and especially for that notice about that last line, it'll cause me to pay more attention to how I invite others to dialog with me.

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      Antonio50S 

      5 days ago

      Thank you Eric.

      Love is "exactly" what it's all about.

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      Eric Dierker 

      5 days ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Elijah perhaps everyone is just too polite. Your comments get quite out there and are hard to follow sometimes. And sometimes you lapse into telling us what to think as opposed to "what you think". It creates a scenario where we cannot get it and feel uncomfortable with someone insisting we see it your way.

      Your last line of "dare reason with me". Will not win you any readers.

      But carry on as you see fit. Just my suggestions.

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      Eric Dierker 

      5 days ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Antonio you are welcome here, as you show dignity and respect. I found your comment very interesting and well laid out.

      Now if you care you can write me an email about a topic - concise and I will publish along with my views. Love is a lot about sharing.

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      Elijah A Alexander Jr 

      5 days ago from Washington DC

      Antonio,

      Scripture say "Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool" so lets allow the Lord within us reason together with us in attendance.

      The gospel message Jesus revealed in Luke 17:20-21 reads ...

      "20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:

      21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you."

      Since God is enthroned within us doesn't that mean god is directing our every action weather we call its good or evil? Scripture say god made the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil" so who has seen that so we can know which is good and which is evil? If we can't look at what we ate that caused us to recognize them how are we know we actually ate something and it's not only an illusion caused by our conditioning parents (Gen. 2:24)? Since god is within us with the power to prohibit everything we do - although we often hear its guiding voice but refuses to obey it - isn't it possible that we are allowed to experience what it is we call good and evil so, as Jesus said in John 14:26 meaning after we are born again like tadpoles are born into frogs, "the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I [the father enthroned within us] have said unto you"?

      Since everyone who discarnates during the last days will resurrect, the "dead in Christ (Rev. 6:9-11 & 14:13) during the first millennium and everyone else during the remaining 6 days or millenniums, and replenish the earth for the what I call the "Alternate Body and sunless" (Rev. 21:4 & 23) civilization; doesn't that means good and evil is only an illusion? How, then, is that not also the gospel of Jesus called Christ?

      Will you dare to reason with me?

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      Antonio50S 

      5 days ago

      Hello Elijah again.

      For me personally, there's only one message, the "Gospel message of Jesus" which includes Jesus birth, life, death, resurrection, and most importantly the "Forgiveness of sins" which was foretold generations before Jesus was born. We can all be messengers in relation to that message, unless we choose to preach another ? Everybody has the right to believe as they choose, but for me, that's the message.

      Regarding ( Isaiah 45:7 ) that's also part of the Gospel message of Jesus.

      Your understanding of verse 47 is not in agreement with the scriptures ( as a whole ). Though God does have the power to create light and darkness, prosperity and disaster, that verse is mainly to shows that God is in control of all nations, not that he delights in bringing darkness and disaster. The emphasis is wrong, along with your understanding of Sin.

      The chapter is about Gods people being in bondage under king Nebuchadnezza of Babylon, and God using Cyrus the great of persia, ( of all people, an outsider ) to Concuer Babylon which happened in the year 539 BC ( to free the Jewish nation )

      2 years later in 537 BC Cyrus gave the decree for the Jews to return to their homeland in fulfillment of the 70 year desolation period in ( Jeremiah 25 )

      God first destroyed Judah for their sins 70 years before the destruction of babylon, then God turned his attention to babylon in 539 BC and destroyed it because of their sins as well, using Cyrus the Great.

      God uses anybody from any nation to fulfill his will, after all, God is the creator of everything, including all people, no matter what nationality they belong to.

      The 1948 UN "declaration of human rights" is based on the discovery of the Cyrus cylinder, a copy of which exist at the UN. Them rights include freedoms to build our own homes, where to live, freedom of religious beliefs, to name a few, but the main reason God used Cyrus, was to release the Jewish nation, and because the promised Messiah, Jesus himself would come through that nation as God promised generations before.

      Though Cyrus gave the decree that all nations could choose their own beliefs, that was also in agreement with Gods plan that when Jesus was born around 500 years later, "after the destruction of babylon" people of all nations could choose to put their trust in that Gospel Message.

      People can choose to believe as they wish, but Just letting you know Elijah, ( I'm not a people follower ) and don't go along with peoples own interpretation of scriptures. Sorry Elijah, no disrespect, but won't go along with anyone who disregards the "main" fundamental gospel message of Jesus, and why God had the bible written to begin with.

      I now your going to want to correct me again, or that i ( missed something ) try and resist the urge. No matter what anyone says, what interpretations they have, "for me" Salvation is found in no other, except in the "Name of Jesus, the Greater Solomon.

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      Elijah A Alexander Jr 

      5 days ago from Washington DC

      That's why I call myself an Atheist-Christian along with how I interpret the symbolism of Isaiah 7:14-22 with 14-16 & 22 reading with them ...

      "14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin [virtuous person] shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel [in man is God].

      15 Butter [Civilizational] and honey [environmentally] shall he eat [live], that he may know to refuse the evil [civilization], and choose the good [environment].

      16 For before the child shall know to refuse the evil, and choose the good, the land that thou abhorrest [death] shall be forsaken of both her kings [God over good and devil over evil]."

      The remaining verses suggest "everyone who survives the 'Battle of That Great Day of God Almighty' will also have lived accordingly."

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      Eric Dierker 

      5 days ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Very great interchange friends. You both bring us into a place of contemplation. I really like the lack of ranker so common these days.

      I had treated my elder brother shabbily and wrote (yes I still hand-write letters) and apologized for being a bad brother. He wrote back that there were no good or bad brothers, only brothers. Not bad for an atheist.

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      Elijah A Alexander Jr 

      6 days ago from Washington DC

      Antonio,

      What you are missing is Isaiah 45:7's "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do [in present tense meaning God does everything through us] all these things". That means there is no sin nor righteousness, everything is a message but because of our eating from the knowledge of good and evil we don't see it that way.

      There is to be a "first fruit of the gospel" who is the second messiah (Ex. 4:6-8, Isa. 11:1 & 10-12, Malachi 3:1 & Mat. 24:6) who is twice smitten (Num. 20:1-11) and "the prophet like unto Moses" (Deut. 18:15 & 18) who sprinkles many nations with the message and the example of what it is to be saved. He will have a girl "Help Meet", the opposite of Eve and Delilah, who will be responsible for ushering first harvested (Rev. 14:14-20) five wise virgins into Armageddon and close it after the prophet like Moses messiah enters.

      I have several hubs showing that you can read for a better understanding.

      Peace!

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      Antonio50S 

      6 days ago

      Eric.

      That messogenic disease don't sound to good, but if it helps me saying, though i would not attribute all things to that Satan fella himself, he does and will have a lot to answer for. Whatever God allows, he allows for reasons.

      Even the demons believe and shudder at the very name of God ( James 2:19 ) Rightly so as well as they witnessed first hand Gods power at work throughout the ages. One way or another, God knows how to deliver people out of trials.

      Whatever past mistakes i may have made myself ( I would NEVER question or test God now ) i may have done so in the past out of ignorance, but not now.

      It's not always obvious when God is at work, but in a lot of cases and testimonies, when people look back over the years, they see the hand of God behind things.

      God is a master "Chess Player" anyone who knows a little about Chess will tell you that you need to be able to see way ahead into the game, to the very final outcome. God is the ultimate Master in that. He allows time, decades, generations, even millenniums to pass before we see the final outcome to all things. All we can do is sit back in Awe in our brief short life, while God is working things out for the benefit of all future generations to come, not just ours.

      Like Paul said in ( 2 Cor 12:9 ) "my power is made perfect in weakness"

      Whatever God allows, he allows for reasons.

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      Eric Dierker 

      6 days ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Antonio a great and well received message. If you decline to join and write then I will always have a home for you. What growth we are going through. Each of us leaders and teachers and students and children.

      "In the meantime, we can all do the work of a messenger". How cool is that statement? Thanks. And even better yet I think we can all do the work of those who hear and listen.

      I am sitting here with a messogenic lymphoma gut ache from satan. But good words like yours lift up my spirit which is not diseased.

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      Antonio50S 

      7 days ago

      Hello Elijah.

      If Eric don't mind me responding to you on his Hub Page.

      I agree with what you say, maybe we all have some message to get over. After all, if we've leaned something from another, they managed to get a message over to us.

      What i had in mind though was the verses in ( Mathew 24:45-47 )

      "Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master ( Jesus ) has put in charge of the servants ( Messengers ) in his household to give them their food at the proper time ?"

      46 "It will be good for that servant ( Messenger ) whose master finds him doing so when he returns"

      47 " I tell you the truth, he will put him in charge of all his possessions"

      Them verses are from Jesus himself, and imply that he's already put his servants in charge to some degree generations ago, but the real appointing or putting the servants or ( messenger ) in charge comes later when Jesus returns.

      In the meantime, we can all do the work of a messenger, in anticipation of Jesus return, but Jesus himself is the one who will do the final "Judging" & appointings.

      There's a lot of outstanding teachers out there, like Msdora, including Eric, and others. ( God can & does use ) whoever he wishes.

      The only thing that's puzzling ? "Verse 47" That servant or ( Messenger ) seems to imply a group of people "collectively" to rule over Jesus belongings ? As opposed to one person ?

      ( I don't have all the answers ) and yes, you are probably right in what you say, but not sure if anyone can take the Title "YET" of being a messenger, untill Jesus appoints them ?

      Trust you to pick me up on this Elijah :)

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      Eric Dierker 

      7 days ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Elijan, your comment is really revealing. I will think on it more. How right you are about all being a messenger. My boy and I live that. I never thought of it that way. Thank you. We are working on a skull/head I found Canine or Feline we ask. But it carries a message we must work to unravel it. (no internet of encyclopedic references allowed)

      But that whole message is clear, to work together in love to explore the mysteries of life.

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      Elijah A Alexander Jr 

      7 days ago from Washington DC

      Antonio,

      Concerning your post about Eric calling someone a "messenger" I say...

      Everything on this earth is a messenger revealing something about existence as its purpose. Human/woman (minds unable to comprehend all things per Gen. 2:23) represents only half of what their messages represent since they divide most everything in half based on their sense perceptions. If they haven't been "born again" with a testimony following the natural birth (Romans 1:20) to become man they usually represent a part of what can be done excessively. Man (minds able to comprehend and exceed the ability of all things per Gen. 1:26-28) see everything's 360 degrees in all directions, like a sphere, to recognize causes, effects, consequences and seek their purposes.

      Human/woman messengers are revealing how being incomplete cause them to be dependent and attracted to their opposites, sometimes showing it in excess, sometimes moderately and other times insufficiently, thus, when man observe them with our minds and physical senses they are able to recognize the the cause of the different effects presented by them.

      Meanwhile, man messengers demonstrate how to live in what the Christ called the "straight way with the narrow gate" or the joining point between the opposites. An example that is the approximate hour between sunrise and sunset which is a straight line completely around the earth at all times. That means man are required to be constantly moving to remain in the "middle path" the Buddha called it.

      So, yes, everything has a message it is up to us to comprehend their individual messages and/or recognize the whole message of man and earth.

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      Antonio50S 

      11 days ago

      Thanks Eric. I may do that a little later on, but for now, need a break for reasons. You're good man.

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      Eric Dierker 

      11 days ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Antonio there is no reason that you do not join us here. Your clear sharing of love would be good for many by your own articles.

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      Antonio50S 

      11 days ago

      2 Cor 12, is a very good chapter. Considering what paul put the christians through, he later became a great visionary, and also by talking about the "man caught up in the third heaven" That man may well have been paul himself ? speaking of himself to stop him becoming conceited.

      Visions like that gives greater purpose and meaning to life in showing that there are far greater, grandiose things which awaits us, other than this temporary broken up world where death reighns.

      These are great verses from paul again in ( Romans 8:38,39 ) "For i am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord"

      Basically paul is saying, theres absolutely "Nothing" in creation that will separate us from God and Christ, not even death, that also includes any worry we may have in the one we leave behind, since God is in control of even that.

      Death has a way of taking from us things we'd cling to forever, but in Christ who holds the keys to death and hades, all things are made new.

      Revelation 21, The New Jerusalem. Vs 4 "the old order of things have passed away"

      Tony.

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      Eric Dierker 

      12 days ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      I like how you brought it from 2 Cor.12 to Daniel's Thorn.

      This notion is paramount for me as I get to apply it to my cancer. And I specifically do not mention suffering. Except for "long suffering". I don't suffer.

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      Eric Dierker 

      12 days ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Antonio I certainly do not intend to correct you. I would hope to just put stuff out there and you adjust if something strikes you.

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      Antonio50S 

      13 days ago

      And yes, having thought about what you said, a good thorn will keep it on the inside. That was a good example you mentiond about the boy struggling and hospitality. Isn' it funny, everytime you think you have it all sussed, someone comes along and corrects you. [ Appreciate that ]

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      Antonio50S 

      13 days ago

      You're right. That's a good knowledge to be puffed up about, that also brings new meaning to ( Daniel 12:3 ) "Those who are wise will shine like the brightness of the heavens, and those who lead many to righteousness, like the stars for ever and ever"

      A good old thorn keeps us focused.

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      Eric Dierker 

      13 days ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      God through Paul was on a great roll there. 1 Cor 8. Somehow when you get into it as a way of life. You can deal with that knowledge puffing you up. Real knowledge is knowing and nurturing our soul of love. Lest I think my knowledge goes to the outside a good thorn will keep it on the inside.

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      Antonio50S 

      13 days ago

      Eric. You ( unproductive slob ) that was funny :)

      This is one of the best articles i ever read. No middle ground, one way or the other, but you chose the way of love, above all.

      That's cool.

      Spent lot's of time reading motivational psychology books, "Wayne Dyer" "Jim Rohn" but this article is a reminder to read more of the things that's uplifting, which builds you up.

      Love is also a great motivator.

      "Knowledge puffs up ( LOVE ) builds up" 1 Cor 8:1

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      Antonio50S 

      2 weeks ago

      Thank you Eric.

      Happy New Year to you & all the family.

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      Eric Dierker 

      2 weeks ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      próspero Año Nuevo! for everyone. Antonio I wish you the Joy this season.

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      Antonio50S 

      2 weeks ago

      Thank you Eric.

      You're a good man. You remind me of myself, and friends i have.

      I ( Love everybody ) but think "Love is the gratest gift"

      You to good you are Eric.

      Love & Peace.

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      Eric Dierker 

      2 weeks ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      I hear brother. I just had a blast yesterday doing the happy new year to so many. What a gift God has given us.

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      Antonio50S 

      2 weeks ago

      Thank you Eric, will do. You're a good man.

      Was paying for groceries at a check out recently, young man in front never had enough money to pay for his groceries, said to the lady cashier, I'll pay for it, lady said that's cool, just looked at her and said "I'm always doing that"

      He that lends, lends to Love :)

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      Eric Dierker 

      2 weeks ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Antonio, cool dude. Sign up and follow me around and give counterpoints. You show love and compassion and should be heard in a tough point to point. My "sermons" are 4,000 words in word. But I would not do that to folks.

      You can email me to see how we can work your viewpoint in and you can spread your word. (Yikes my wife is spreading her's in the kitchen -- got to go)

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      Antonio50S 

      2 weeks ago

      I agree with everything you say Eric, i get into lot's of conversations with people in towns and cities about religion. Most people view me as a threat and challenge till we start talking, but after talking to whole groups of people, after 2-3 hours, they all end up shaking my hand. Love them conversations.

      Find it hard communicating on Hub Pages, stressing me out, effecting my faith. I'm a happy easy going person deep down, but Hub Pages is getting the better of me.

      If i was there face to face with you Eric, i would give you a Hug, spent my whole life helping others, given everthing away, but cannot handle Hub Pages any longer.

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      Antonio50S 

      2 weeks ago

      Why would hiding be "oogy weird" when there's a number of reason for not disclosing all information to the world ? That sounds like judgement, condemnation, and reason to verbally assault back, you're doing the same things yourself, that's not Love.

      I did post a few frank & open comments to MsDora, but she never posted them, so why should i trust her now ? I made an apology to her, ( not because i thought i was wrong on everything i said ) but because i felt it was a waist of time, and because it was upsetting others. Why did you have trouble accepting that ?

      I do know some SDA people, "nice folks" but the reason for the question is they come over as a little rigid & controlling in their theology and was trying to understand dora better, but when she never posted certain comment i lost trust in her, yet you refer to her as a "messenger" ( things didn't add up ) and isnt in agreement with the scriptures either.

      Appreciate your explanation.

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      Eric Dierker 

      2 weeks ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Antonio maybe you just need to set things in motion in your heart to talk face to face. Our Friends we invited in on Friday were doing great door to door but the little guy was having trouble. Some chat and playing with Legos with my son fixed them right up. Water and some fruit and talking about "OUR" God was refreshing. I could have whooped this guy's butt with scripture but we just enjoyed a man at home and one on a journey. The restroom was much appreciated.

      I think my boy and I need to scoot on over to a JW deal. You folks make me feel accepted in the Lord.

      No, I just want to learn and be loved, not accept your viewpoint as my own. All walks in Love are accepted in my heart and home.

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      Antonio50S 

      2 weeks ago

      To Eric.

      I wasn't doing the very things dora mentioned, i just have a hard time reading what people are saying, so many things people say in "Words" can be read in so many ways. I'ts not like face to face communication, for that, decided it maybe best not to comment on peoples Hubs any longer.

      I don't agree with all that messenger bit mind. ( Col 2:18 )

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      Eric Dierker 

      2 weeks ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Thank you for you kindness shown. Bless you. But only come back with positive do not come back with damnation of others.

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      Eric Dierker 

      2 weeks ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Antonio. Yes, I 100% love all who revile. Decades of prayer, study and love have just created that as my default. I have no choice. I do not even think about another choice anymore.

      But sometimes I have to make a choice about deleting people who harm others and you are dangerously close. Go to your own pulpit but do not condemn my message and Dora's of love. Go elsewhere and create your own message -- but not here unless you shorten your messages and tone.

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      Eric Dierker 

      2 weeks ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Now Antonio we pretty much have every reason to delete comments from folks who refuse to register here. It is like they hide and that is oogy weird.

      Now if I am a Seventh Day Adventist? I suppose I have some in me. They treated me so well and invited me into a ward. So many friends it would be hard to say how many. I am a South Westerner. My Godmother is/was a descendant of Lee.

      Now if you cannot accept this I will delete and move on and wish you love.

      If you speak nicely to a store clerk and offer them a verbal blessing are you wrong, without telling them they are sinners? My writing leave condemnation to others. My gift is about love. Yours might be tougher than mine. I pray for your tough road to be straight and flat and narrow.

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      Eric Dierker 

      2 weeks ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Hey friend let me get back to you I think you speak eloquently.

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      Antonio50S 

      2 weeks ago

      Eric.

      I'll take you and dora off the hook.

      You don't have to answer anything.

      All the best & peace to you.

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      Antonio50S 

      2 weeks ago

      If there's one thing I'm good at Eric, I'ts exposing the real inner motives of people.

      Put me in any court room, most people wouldn't have a chance.

      That's how confident i am. Tried to see the good things about people like Dora, but as i said to her, it's the things she don't post that says more about a person. I know what i posted, and the ones she never put out there.

      Ultimately, there's only one real Judge, for that i try and keep a check on the words i use, but i know what i see in people. ( I really hope I'm wrong )

      I'll be very surprised if Dora or yourself did answer certain questions i threw at you, but then how can you ? How can Dora ? All fallible human beings, all seeking Glory from each other.

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      Antonio50S 

      2 weeks ago

      I have never found a closed door at Dora's entryway ?

      ( I have ) Tell you what i think, people draw in those who make them feel good about themselves, who tell them what they want to hear, but discriminate unknowingly, unconsciously against others for whatever reasons.

      It's how you treat all people that counts, not just one person.

      A question to ask yourself Eric, would you feel the same about Dora if she did that to you ?

      Them don't seem to be qualities of a real messenger.

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      Antonio50S 

      2 weeks ago

      To Eric.

      Exuse me for posting, but i just cannot understand why you call some people Gods messengers, where do you get that idea from ?

      The only place i can think of is ( Mathew 24:45 ) but any true servant is appointed after Jesus return, Not before. Mentioned this to Dora as well, but she never posted it, why is that ?

      Just curious, are you a "seventh day adventist" ?

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      Eric Dierker 

      4 weeks ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Hi Sean come on in! I am throwing a love fest. Decorating for Christmas. I got some stuff I am putting up that has seen more than sixty Jesus birthdays. And I got some stuff my son made just yesterday. I will give my best shot to be happier tomorrow.

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      Ioannis Arvanitis 

      4 weeks ago from Greece, Almyros

      If Love is an Ocean, you are the salt, my brother!

      Shine on, you crazy diamond!

      Sean

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      Eric Dierker 

      5 weeks ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Dana if you asked me this question a day ago I would say "me either". I have a thorn or two in my side -- more than St. Paul. And I have rocky stretches with love. And that is the juice of life and love.

      Only for a few years now but I truly love you.

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      Eric Dierker 

      5 weeks ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Denise thank you. I work on it. My wife comes from a land where raising your voice and hand waving is part of the language. Near on 20 years and I still have to tell her that yelling is not nice. It is important that I tell her my feelings on that, and equally important that I feel OK about that.

      Love is so grand!

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      Eric Dierker 

      5 weeks ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Mary I am just a strange duck on the issue of passing. I normally do not even attend funerals. My happiness at their entering my heart unbridled is disturbing to folks who want to morn.

      I kind of think that my dad who passed is closer to me now and we were real close.

      I am sure your loved one knows and experiences your love today.

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      Mary Norton 

      5 weeks ago from Ontario, Canada

      Spreading love, being in love. This is all that matters. You always remind us of this and I try to do this. My love has passed away but there are so many people left behind to love and I still continue to talk to him, too. It seems that love gets better when shared with more.

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      Eric Dierker 

      5 weeks ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Denise in my little, very little world we laugh sometimes about too much love. How to cure lack of love is my boy's and mine newest project. Smiles and, "how do you do" with earnest we are thinking might at least begin this trek of love. I don't know :-) I asked the vendor of phones outside of my bodega yesterday and he responded "nobody ever asks me that". Well we will fix that!!!

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      Denise W Anderson 

      5 weeks ago from Bismarck, North Dakota

      I love this! It is great to have that kind of open relationship with both our spouse and our Maker. If we talked more about what we are feeling and our concerns about life, perhaps, there would be more love in the world!

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      Eric Dierker 

      5 weeks ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      I surely do like your comment Manatita. "trying" is such a waste of our time here. I reckon that is why I throw away half my sermons. I am trying to get a message across and that does not hit our co-existence with love.

      Some. like you seem to have it figured out. I just keep asking questions.

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      Eric Dierker 

      5 weeks ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Linda I am having a down day. I am not feeling so "good". Happens on Monday when my Gabe goes off to school. I just kind of have to push a little harder to get upbeat. --- Wowsie Powsy what a gift of love. For a fella like me I need a challenge, I cannot "Win" without one. So love challenges me and it is the 8th round and I am still standing (well and some kneeling) That garden ain't a going to till itself. Love ya, stay delicious for all of us. And to be clear I am not having a good day -- it is a great one!

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      Eric Dierker 

      5 weeks ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Ms. Dora I am going to reply to you over at an awesome article that I keep reading. Anyone reading here as just a guest there I invite you to join me I am sure Dora will not mind / https://remedygrove.com/wellness/Prayer-and-Its-Ef... /

      I have never found a closed door at Dora's entryway.

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      Eric Dierker 

      5 weeks ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Elijah I like your comment. It strikes a chord, The different kinds of shit we consume blocks our open channel with God who is All Love. I don't care if you are adrenaline junkie, workaholic or waste case drunk about to reach bottom. I have found good and bad in all of the above.

      There is a guy I know that hates locked doors so much he learned to pick them at about 10. Usually did not go in, just opened them. Cars the same.

      Later he moved on to unlocking hearts or trying to, a lot harder than a steel reinforced door. I only lock my door at night when mom and boy need to feel secure. Although we know a lock only stops an honest man. (do not ask who that ten year old was)

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      Dana Tate 

      5 weeks ago from LOS ANGELES

      I envy those who find a life partner and experience "true love" I have experienced many loves but I don't think I ever experienced that kind of love.

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      manatita44 

      5 weeks ago from london

      Well Bro, for whatever reason, some of your Hubs I really like and I do tell you so, I believe. You are best when you aren't looking for something grand or different, but just telling it as it is. This allows the story-teller in you to work and the result is an Aladdin's cave of truly beautiful gems.

      So me, you, Bill … I am in great company as we are going all out on this 'love thing', no? Carry on Bro. Peace.

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      Linda Lum 

      5 weeks ago from Washington State, USA

      I can feel the loving way up here in the Pacific Northwest. You are a good man and a great teacher. Thank you for taking the time to share the Book of Eric with us.

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      Dora Weithers 

      5 weeks ago from The Caribbean

      That's called "fellowship" which is even better than "relationship." because a relationship in which there is no communication can be stressful. Keep on talking to Love, Eric. Keep the door open. No wonder you have so much love to share!

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      Elijah A Alexander Jr 

      5 weeks ago from Washington DC

      Aaaaaah, Eric,

      The term “I love you from the bottom of my home” is new to me but it also makes since based my frame of mind. Earth is my home therefore “I love everyone and thing from the bottom of my home”. Now that I am "born again" and realize I have been every type of entity earth contains - although I still haven't had their individual memories brought to my consciousness yet - my love is for the earth as if I and the earth's multitude of entities are a "zero".

      Your “lady of the night” AKA "working ladies" had me LOLIL (in the library).

      Reading "Talk to Me Lord" reminded me of "My Proposal", the following.

      I want to be your lover and desire you as mine

      but not to be each other's puppet nor control their mind.

      I want to be your friend to last all our life

      but not me a henpecked husband nor you a rooster-spurred wife.

      I want to love you with a love true, one that makes you free,

      so your friends can enjoy you and mine can enjoy me.

      I want to know I'm in your heart when you aren't around,

      that it's said with love when you say to me 'be not found'.

      I want your love to be so real you'll not say it's only for me,

      that it be so when we're with someone else there'll be no jealousy.

      I want not to rule your life nor for you to rule me,

      my joy is all I ask, and the same I ask for thee.

      So if you'll love me this way, this way that I love you,

      with our loving each other free we'll know our love is true!

      In general that is how I feel about earth and all of it's entities. I refuses to own a pet, claim a tuff with its multitude of entities or a person as my property. I feel they all have their right to exist for their own special purpose. I love the drunkard, “ladies of the night”, dope addicts and every other type of human, woman or man on earth, yet I don't want to control nor direct their lives. A drunk in Florida had been on a 6 or 16 week binge and didn't want the "DT's" that were sure to come if he "cold turkeyed" kept asking me how to do it about every five minutes for more than an hour. I kept replying "talk to your higher power" until suddenly he walked over to a brick building with his unopened gallon of wine and flung shattering it against the building and returned to me crying saying "praise God, I flung against the building, if someone had told to do it I would want to fight but 'praise God' I did it." I didn't hear "the Lord" talk to him but he must have and obeyed to get the success he desired since we remained together until the next day's noon hour.

      Well written and humorous, thanks for sharing it.

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      Eric Dierker 

      5 weeks ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Thanks for being such a loving friend Bill. I figure us writing to each other really is like talking to love.

      We had fun yesterday during catch -- What gender is love?

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      Eric Dierker 

      5 weeks ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Pamela. Thank you for coming by and your comment. I might be interested to hear from someone who denies that undeniable truth. For me, if my wife were gone somehow it would be a half of me gone.

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      Eric Dierker 

      5 weeks ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Lori sometimes I just get twisted up. Because I write this series I find that most people get twisted up on a regular basis. I wonder why. You and I love our Lord's love for us. So it is real to ask why we forget. Baffles me.

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      Bill Holland 

      5 weeks ago from Olympia, WA

      Communication is always soooo important in any love affair. It's good you keep the lines open so you and love can converse. :)

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      Pamela Oglesby 

      5 weeks ago from Sunny Florida

      I think love is the answer to most of life's problems as you point out in your article. Just before I read this article I was watching the news and that stated people that were "happily" married were healthier and lived longer. So, love does prevail.

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      Lori Colbo 

      5 weeks ago from Pacific Northwest

      You are the love man. Thanks for spreading and sharing it with us all. I'm having a sad evening and needed the reminder of love, especially God's love.

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      Eric Dierker 

      5 weeks ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Chris a truth that even runs into a tree on our treks.

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      Eric Dierker 

      5 weeks ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Tim we are sailing on my babes Viet Cooking. I shunned so for the fat. I did not get it that for hundreds of years they grew for hundreds of years.Great Grandma at 105 and I for sure. We would talk about French occupation and wealth for hours, just holding hands. (another story perhaps a love story) We called the pigs un chuon and ordered one slaughtered for our wedding. Much more. She was only 65 lbs when I carried across the lagoon canal to our wedding. She is part of my son.

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      Chris Mills 

      5 weeks ago from Hartford, CT

      Love is what it's all about Eric. You hit the nail on the head with this one. "I have no right to put a responsibility on another to love me back." That is a wise and helpful comment.

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      Tim Truzy 

      5 weeks ago from U.S.A.

      Hi, Eric,

      Love it. Wonderful. I like the salt reference. We need salt to surive, but not in great amounts. (I tried sour sop tea for my prehypertension and my last visit to the physician was stellar. Not making any sort of recommendation, friend, but as smart as you are, it might be worth taking a peep.)

      I'm so glad your former and present spouse are being polite to each other. That's cool.

      Loved "Boom, Boom."

      Nice write up, full of love, and always giving the reader something to think about and pray about.

      To a respectful, kind, and prolific writer,

      Merry Christmas!

      Tim

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