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Eric's Sunday Sermon for Doubting Thomas's -- Agnostics

Updated on February 12, 2016

This photo depicts an ascension of Christ after coming down to give proof.

Why did Jesus come to Earth?
Why did Jesus come to Earth? | Source

There was a man named Thomas who was Agnostic and a Disciple of Christ

To my knowledge there is no book of Thomas in any version of the Bible.(today I do not refer to the Book of Thomas discovered in Egypt in 1945 -another day perhaps) But Thomas is a key figure in allowing true free will. And he also teaches us love, community and that doubt is just fine and dandy. Thomas was an agnostic. Doubting Thomas should be a revered term. Agnostics should be part of any good group of disciples.

These are strong statements. These probably inflame many Religious Christians. Well I mean to "stir it up" here so we examine our own faith. I will leave this hub without quotations from the Bible. Because this is for advanced Agnostics and mature Christians and mature atheists, all of whom I assume are familiar with the Bible. And I am not a Bible literalist. .

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Thomas Loved Jesus

Thomas gave up all he had and followed Jesus around for about 3 years. He listened to His sermons. He served him as a disciple. He took the order to go out into the world with nothing and spread the good news in a land that was often hostile and would stone to death anyone that they considered blasphemous --- and to many Jews what Jesus taught was blasphemous as evidenced by His crucifixion. He hung out with Jesus in the wilderness on journeys to foreign places. And he rode in a boat during a tempest with the other disciples as Jesus ordered them to sea. He was with Jesus in Gethsemane and in HIs own hometown as he was about to be stoned. Now that my friends is love. That is loyalty

And yet he needed physical tangible truth that Christ had risen from the grave.

Thomas stayed with the community that loved Jesus even after crucifixion

The Jews were out for more blood, but Thomas hung in there.

These disciples were "wanted" men. As we know from Peter's three denials the disciples were in fear for their own lives. As the beautiful song above relates they were hiding and just waiting for soldiers to come get them and crucify them also. Thomas apparently would go out from time to time but was with the group. He easily could have headed for the hills or to some small town and fade into his old life. But he did not. Again we know that even John had doubts, even after Christ told Him that He would rise again. And yet he also stayed with the crew.

This is my favorite Cross, my daughter bought if for me after we watched the Mexican wood worker make it.

Rough hewed wood with large nails as a Crucifix
Rough hewed wood with large nails as a Crucifix | Source

Doubt is a healthy good thing

I asked a congregation once if anyone there ever had doubts. Only two hands went up. The whole congregation stood in denial. Even the priest did not raise his hand, nor the deacon, nor the converted Buddhists. Only my hand went up and a beautiful little 8 year old girl. Yet that whole congregation took communion. How could that be. Christ knows what is in our hearts, why do we feel ashamed to admit doubt in front of other Christians. Peter confessed his doubt and asked forgiveness and to be stronger. Even Paul when writing about the thorn in his side that God would not remove - suggested He had doubts but overcame them to realize the thorn was there to keep him humble.

If you really truly stand before God and tell God that you never have any doubt, God knows you are a liar or you puff your self up into delusion that you are better than the original disciples and apostles. Overcoming doubt is a strengthening over spirit within you and faith and belief. With no doubts ever you deny the gift that God has given us of free will. It means that you do not Love the Lord by your choice but as an automaton robot, and that is not who we are made to be..

Here are the last supper Jesus said one would betray, and they all doubted themselves if just for a second

Even here they doubted Jesus thinking "they will not kill him".
Even here they doubted Jesus thinking "they will not kill him". | Source

Throughout His earthly ministry the disciple displayed many instances of doubt.

The Tempest, the feeding of the 5,000 the worries expressed, the request to say goodbye before following -- all instances of doubt. And yet Jesus loved them and Loves them. So we just in general we see that doubting begets learning and strengthening. And when overcome brings stronger faith and belief and love.

Jesus Love Agnostics and if we ask will give us proof

So we come to Doubting Thomas. The greatest doubt of all times. There Jesus appears through walls and is standing there talking to the disciples after He has been crucified and buried. It has already been related to Thomas by his pards that Jesus is Alive and has risen. He apparently calls His disciples by name and some are at his perhaps kissing them and the wounds in his hands and feet are visible. And there stands our great Thomas admitting to all that he still doubts. How amazing, how Agnostic!!!. How wonderfully honest.

So he asks or demands of Christ that he will not believe until he touches, seeing is not even enough, the wounds. And Jesus just steps right up and allows him to have his proof.

We do not even get the sense Jesus is insulted. Jesus just reminds us that those of us who do not need to see and touch are very blessed. And what I think He means by that that we are not tortured by extreme doubt and that we can overcome it by faith while others need some empirical truth and so they struggle much more than us who do not need it.

Even perhaps those with strong doubt are even more worthy than those of us to whom it comes easily, for those that overcome much receive much.

Our doubts are not usually so dramatic.

Sometimes doubts are about us. "I doubt that I can do something". It may be just that one millisecond of hesitation. I can tell you this --- if you take to exceptional and equal athletes and pit them against each other. No matter the competition. The one with less self doubt will always win. So we can see in near clinical settings that doubt is a game changer. Doubt will create an environment where failure is more likely.

So we look at doubt and say "how can we avoid it?". Believe it or not that is very easy. You simply walk through it, talk through it and act through it. You remove the doubt. I think it was Ted Williams who said "a batting slump is only a confidence slump". And I believe this concept has helped coaches immensely. Here is the trick. Convince the athlete what they are doing wrong. Then fix it. There is a good chance they are doing nothing wrong. So make it up. When the apparent problem is fixed the athlete gets the confidence back. And wha lah.

Same happens with faith. Just think about that whole Catholic deal with saying Hail Mary's, and confessions. Go do it to correct yourself and boom ba da bing you are back on your game.

No go get rid of doubt - Now!!

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    • Ericdierker profile imageAUTHOR

      Eric Dierker 

      5 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      I get the feeling that you do not just write for the happy people - you write to make folks happy. That is what I am talking about.

    • Eiddwen profile image

      Eiddwen 

      5 years ago from Wales

      Interesting Eric and thank you for sharing.

      Eddy.

    • Ericdierker profile imageAUTHOR

      Eric Dierker 

      5 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Then your faith is perfect. I think you are the only person I know like that.

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      H.B. Fortinberry 

      5 years ago from Connecticut

      Having experienced answers to everything that I have had faith in the Word of God to believe for, there is little room for doubt to gain a foothold into my life. However doubting God's Word is very different from doubting oneself and one's ability to sustain one's level of faith. As faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God, maintaining faith is within each of our own power; but as we all know...life happens when we aren't looking, and we all are confronted with temptations or simply get tired of fighting or working and so we begin to relax, and soon our relaxing begins to become our lifestyle where seeking the Lord and His Word become a chore. So when I am asked the question of whether I doubt, I invariably must say that I will always doubt myself, because within my flesh is no good thing, but I will NEVER doubt God's Word.

    • Ericdierker profile imageAUTHOR

      Eric Dierker 

      5 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      I am happy to report that after years and years most my doubts are now about what He wants of me. All my other doubts and worries have not helped me one bit. Not that I still don't get them :-)

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      Michele Travis 

      5 years ago from U.S.A. Ohio

      Thank you for writing this hub. Of course we doubt sometimes. As for me, I need to learn a lot. Every day.

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      Shannon Henry 

      5 years ago from Texas

      Mine as well.

    • Ericdierker profile imageAUTHOR

      Eric Dierker 

      5 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      I think I will write him his normal time getting off work in the morning.

      He is in my homes' prayers.

    • shanmarie profile image

      Shannon Henry 

      5 years ago from Texas

      Hey, where has Epi been?

    • Ericdierker profile imageAUTHOR

      Eric Dierker 

      5 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      And how much greater has God made us than that!!

    • shanmarie profile image

      Shannon Henry 

      5 years ago from Texas

      Even the faith of a mustard seed can do great things.

    • Ericdierker profile imageAUTHOR

      Eric Dierker 

      5 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Right on sister shanmarie -- we like to say never doubt yourself or God --- Yea right good luck with that. Overcoming them is almost worth having them.

    • shanmarie profile image

      Shannon Henry 

      5 years ago from Texas

      Thought provoking thoughts you have there, cowboy preacher man. Doubts are human, but just because one doubts does not mean faith is ever lost.

    • Ericdierker profile imageAUTHOR

      Eric Dierker 

      5 years ago from Spring Valley, CA. U.S.A.

      Your prose and helpful addition is beautiful. I could written the whole hub just to get such a wonderful comment. There is synergism at work here.

      Thank you much friend

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      cleaner3 

      5 years ago from Pueblo, Colorado

      Eric... you have given me such an insight into my self.. when the wind against me is the strongest ,, when the rivers of life seem to be swallowing me up... I often doubt my own beliefs and feel abandoned by the Lord .. ..

      Only to be ashamed of myself later... when I realize that that it was a test of my faith ..the faith that the Lord put within me .. the faith that..... I... can overcome my own doubts... if I believe.

      Thank you my friend.!

      Michael

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