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Fibonacci Numbers and their proof of a creator - Critique

Updated on July 30, 2012

Fibonacci Numbers Video

Fibonacci numbers do not prove a creator

So I have to disagree about the "Creative force" this video tries to prove exists.


It is important to remember that if the physics of the universe were any different we would not be here, thus, not be able to learn about the laws of the universe. Therefore our universe must be this way otherwise we wouldn't be here to appreciate it. It does NOT imply a supernatural being that lives in the clouds and designs things. All it shows is that we are a result of chance and cosmic coincidence that our universe was lucky enough to have these laws.

The spiral and mathematical purity of the Fibonacci sequence is called Phi and it really is impressive...but has no claim to divinity. The reason that a sunflower has seeds aranged in this way is because of evolution....a need to pack the most seeds into a small space, this is the best and most effective packing mechanism that nature created.


Teleological Argument debunked

The video states that this shows evidence of a designer. Absulotely not, as any being or "super-being" capable of designing such a complex system must be even more complex. This begs the question "Who designed the designer?" for more arguments against the Teleological argument please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teleological_argument#Criticism

Designer desired

I admire anyone's search for a desinger, their quest to understand the big questions, and their persuite of pure knowledge and thought...but I suggest you tread carefully in the theological arguments.

Many can be lead astray from the logical or rational with false hopes and empty theories. If we assume that our world is real, and we assume that scientific method is valid (I.e. hypothesis, investigation, evidence, theory, debate...) we must look at the entire world and any idea through that lens.

Phi Explained

Scientific method

Any idea, any theory, any belief must be subject to repeated critiques and investigation. If anyone is to claim there is a designer...they must prove it. The burden of proof is on them. I could state that there are fairies that fly around me and help my legs walk...but I better prove it if I want to be taken seriously.

It would not be up to others to disprove it, its up to me to prove it. This idea is the same wether I came up with the idea today, or someone came up with it 6000 years ago. This telological argument has been disproven time and time again and it (as you can see) gets me riled up.

Further Reading

I have a book that you most certainly should read. It is fascinating, argumentative, inspireing and helped solidify my logical assumption that there cannot possibly be a creator. The book is called The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins. I highly recommend the book to anyone interested in theological ideas and anyone searching for that great wishgranter in the sky.

Richard Dawkins

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      tofer 4 years ago

      Question: would you believe in a Creator if He made Himself known to you? You might say, "Sure...He would have to appear to me and tell me that He is the Creator." Alright, let's say that the Creator made Himself known to you in such a way that you have no doubt that He is the Creator. Okay...What about your children? Would you expect them to believe YOU when you explained to them about your encounter with the Creator? What if the Creator appeared to your child also? And even to your grandchild? At what point would it be reasonable to believe the witness of your parents, grandparents and great-grandparents (who have all witness the Creator)? You see, we have ancestors who witnessed the Creator. Their children and grandchildren witnessed the Creator. Their testimonies were written down to allow us to have the benefit of their experiences. You may not believe their testimony...but you still have it available to you. Which mean that you are without excuse when the time comes to be accountable for your life. If you would like to talk further with me, email me at toferweb@juno.com

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      Matthew MacKenzie 5 years ago from Barrie, Ontario, Canada

      Exactly...People see what they want to see. I find the fibonacci sequence interesting but nothing more. I even came across it in web design. They use to to explain the perfect width of a menu bar in relation to the main subject field.

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      An AYM 5 years ago

      I agree, people get a bit overly swept away with something just because it looks nice. I think an important point that people often overlook is that not all those spirals follow quite that same pretty shape, and a logarithmic spiral can be many things that are slightly variable from the Fibonacci spiral.