- Religion and Philosophy
Flood in the days of Noah
The biblical flood and Noah Ark
Do you believe in the biblical flood?
Welcome to my article (81), Flood in the days of Noah
May God guide and help me to say the right religious things, in this article?
This article is going to be very controversial, because people usually don’t want to change their beliefs, or challenge what has been believed for so long, even if today there is evidence that what has been believed is wrong. You see, people close their eyes to the evidence, so that, they can keep believing what they have been told to believe from their elders, but we have reason to believe that there is a time for everything. Therefore, if I find something that I believe is not correct, I believe that it is my duty to say what I believe is right, so, let us talk about the following subject.
But, let me tell you how this started. Lately we have been following this question on hub pages: Do you believe in the biblical flood in the days of Noah? We have answered this question already in our own ways and beliefs, but nobody has taken much interest in our answers, because our answers challenge those beliefs that people used to believe in. So, since we believe in what we have written, we have decided to give it a go and make a hub about this subject, in the hope that some people will take notice, about what we have pointed out with our answers. Here we want to point out that in this case, there are lots of people that are taking part into these discussions, which is very interesting just for the amount of discussions which today are over 600, however these discussions seem to have moved away from the main question, so, now they discuss so many subjects that are hardly related to the first question or questions, which were thus written and we quote here-under:
“Do you believe in the biblical flood in the days of Noah? It was recorded as a cataclysmic earth-covering flood, and mentions waters flowing from the deep, (out of the earth, as well as all the water previously being held in a cloud canopy over the earth falling as the first rain on the earth). It claims the earth inhabitants lived a longer life span prior to this time. Do you accept that all of our ancestry dates back to this man Noah, and then back another 1200 approx. years to Adam and Eve? Do you believe there is a real wooden Ark still sitting in the mountains of Ararat, as proof of this fantastic voyage to save the world?” (End of quote)
Our answer to the question is that we cannot believe in the biblical flood and many other things, which we will presently explain in a more detailed way than we did last time.
Just while I was editing this article something else came up about Noah Ark, so, I would like to paste a link about these discussions, even though we don't believe everything that is said in there, this is the link; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7iycpe16V0
The Dead Sea is 433 m. below sea level
The Bible flood, may not be true
The question about the Bible flood, is that we have some doubts about it being true.
So, let me start by answering the first question about the flood; the way I see The Flood, is that The Universal Flood as written in the bible has never been, at least to the extent that the Bible clams it to have been, and here is one of my explanations:
But first we need to say; let us put this issue in very simple words, by explaining it in a simple way, so that, anybody would be able to see what we mean here, we need to do that, because after all the wondering public would be mostly made of simple people. You know, to talk and convince the learned people of something that they don’t believe is almost useless, since they can make up their own mind, what they want to believe.
Now, let us see where this Flood event might have happened, so that, we can have a better view of the whole happening so to speak, because only by doing that, we might be able to see whether the universal flood really took place, we can do this, by using our own intelligence and sorting out what could have taken place, and what could be an absurdity to believe happened.
As far as we know, all these events took place in the geographical region that we call today the Middle East. If we look at the maps we can figure out that they were in one of these territories, Palestine, Iraq, Jordan, Syria or thereabout. If we check on the Internet, we find that, all these territories have a very large portion of land that is below sea level.
Now did you hear what has been stated here? You see there are lands that are below sea level, the sea level is the average level of the water of all the seas and oceans of the world that are connected together. But those bodies of waters that are not connected together to the main oceans or seas can be above or below sea level, therefore also some large portion of land can happen to be below sea level, which is described as a depression in the earth crust.
Here is one of the links that you can check out for the lands below sea level,
About the Biblical flood
Now that we know about these lands below sea level, we can answer the first question: do you believe in the biblical flood in the days of Noah?
The answer to this first question, is no! Here we want to say, that definitely there has never been a flood that covered the whole earth, because of the following geographic explanation, here we can say that, if there had been a flood that covered the whole earth, then this geographic depression in the lands of the middle east should not have been there; but since they are there it makes it impossible that the flood covered the whole earth?
Here we need to explain why this geographic feature, is telling us that there was no such thing as a universal flood that covered the entire earth. Because, if there had been such a flood, then the whole earth would have been covered with water, therefore, all the waters of the earth would have been at the same level during the flood, and all the earth depressions would be full of water, all being at the same level. I hope you see what I mean.
Now, we should ask ourselves this question: if the earth depressions were full of water, since they should have been full, if there had been this universal flood, so big, that covered the entire earth, how long it would take for the waters in the earth depressions to evaporate to the level that they are today?
The only answer to that question would be millions of years. You see, today the Dead Sea in the Middle East is 433 meters below sea level; so, to evaporate all that water would take a long time indeed, and perhaps it would be more correct to say that it would take several millions of years. Therefore, The Flood as told in the Bible could not have been that big. But it has been told that way, when they wrote the Bible the first time, and nobody has challenged it openly for fear of upsetting the religious people. Of course, there could have been a flood, but it never covered the entire earth, it is obvious from the explanation above. Therefore, we could conclude that the universal flood, as explained in the Bible has never been. At least it has never been that big to cover the entire earth.
I believe that there is not an Ark on the mountains of Ararat, because as we said there could not have been a flood so huge, to cover Ararat mountain, but we believe, that there might have been a man called Noah that built an Ark, and did something similar according to the Bible, if we are looking for the Ark we should be looking at a lower altitude.
This is the first answer, to those questions about the flood in the days of Noah. And now let us say the way we see it, while we try to answer some other questions that have been asked?
The way that we see it
Today we live in a society, where we want to see for ourselves what is being said, whether what is being said is right or wrong, so, we question everything that is being said to us, we want really to see whether what is being said makes sense, according to our own logic reasoning, so, it stands to reason, why people don’t believe in religions as they used to believe before, and for good reasons. You see, the Flood is not the only thing that does not make sense, because there are other things as well. So let me explain.
In one of our articles called, Theists and Atheists views, 55, this is the link address, since I have already written about this article, so, I cannot repeat it here in hub pages because of duplicate content, so, you have to click on the link to see for yourself.
In this article, there are a few things explained, one of those things, was that we discussed about the length of time that elapsed from the flood to Abraham, which turned out to be 292 years, per our calculations, using the list supplied in The Patriarch after the flood, (Genesis 11 from 10- 26) see how we reached this figure when you link to our article.
Anyhow, it worked out that Noah would have been alive when Abram was born, and Shem the son of Noah would have outlived Abraham by 35 years.
Therefore, the only conclusion that could be reached there, was that there are very serious mistakes in these lists of the Patriarch. Therefore, this finding of many mistakes does not help to answer the questions of our ancestry, nor does it help about the length of time elapsed.
Having said that, we are not going to say that the Bible is full of mistakes, and we cannot trust what is written in it, we only say that there are mistakes, and it may still be okay to believe most of what is written in the Bible, if we allow for the mistakes that the writers of those days made.
Conclusion, about being all descendant of Noah, as asked at the beginning, the answer is no, because the flood was not universal and did not cover the entire earth, so, there must have been some survivors somewhere else in the world; then about the length of times of the other events; this may definitely be wrong, as you have seen we can conclude that the Bible is not as accurate as it claims to be, because who wrote the Bible the first time, did not have the means to check what he was writing, since in those times, everything that happened was passed down verbally from generation to generation. So, sometimes the real story was lost, and it can become anything at all.
We hope we have answered most of the questions, without upsetting the religious believers. See you next time.
May God bless us all?
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