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Lunatic, Liar or God?

Updated on August 10, 2016
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Susan Grove is a Psychologist and Christian Counselor, a Student Assistant at Koinonia Institute, and a volunteer working w/Veterans

Was Jesus God?

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"From now on you know Him, and have seen Him"

In John Chapter 14, Jesus said, “No one comes to the Father except through Me. (vs.6) If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and have seen Him.” (vs.7)

Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us.” (vs.8) Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father (vs.9)

Jesus had been talking to His disciples about heaven; He had told them He was going there soon to prepare a place for them - to join Him. The disciples were confused and peppered Him with questions about what He said. This is when Jesus made His bold statement about being one and the same as God: “from now on you know Him, and have seen Him.” (v.7)

Later, Jesus alluded to His oneness with the Father again, when He prayed for His believers, “that they may be one, just as we are one” (John 17:21) “Just as You are in Me, and I am in You".(John 17:21). ”So just who was Jesus? Was He God? Many new age faiths claim that Jesus was a good man, a prophet even, but not God; some of these faiths have even adopted the teachings of Jesus as codes of conduct for a good person. The problem is that if Jesus believed He was God and He was not, He was either a lunatic or a liar. Why would anyone believe that Jesus was a good man or prophet, and want to follow his teachings if he was a crazy or worse, a liar?

The apostle Paul, who initially did not believe Jesus was God either wrote, “He is the image of the invisible God” (Col 1:15). Some would say “we are all the image of God, and sons & daughters of God”. But Jesus, when asked if He were the Messiah, the Christ, the long awaited Savior of the world replied “I am” (Mark 14:61-62, John 8:58, John 18:6). When Jesus said “I am” He identified Himself by the same name that God used for Himself: “I Am Who I Am” (Ex 3:14). Jesus also said that at any time He could call down 12 Legions of Angels to His defense (Matt 26:53).

Was Jesus delusional - a Lunatic, or a Liar? Or was He God, as He said He was? You can decide for yourself, however, do not delude yourself by saying He was a good man, and hold up His teachings as a model - if you really believe He was mentally ill, or a dishonest man. You cannot have it both ways.


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      Susan Grove 20 months ago from Huntington Beach

      hello Celafoe,

      Thanks so much for taking the time to comment. I'm not sure what you meant about Jesus sitting at the right hand of the Father, but I wanted to let you know that you have inspired me to write another blog that scripturally speaks to the deity of Jesus Christ, and also scripturally points to the Trinity. It should be approved by tomorrow, so please check back. Thanks

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      charlie 20 months ago from From Kingdom of God living on Planet earth. between the oceans

      jg-- that is the doctrine of the chrches of men. show me one scripture that says that Jesus is fully God and fully man. scripture says he was a man just as we are, the Son of God not God. if Jesus is God please tell me how He can sit at the right hand of the father

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      Jim Grove 20 months ago

      Amen and Amen!! The Trinity is a mystery. No man can truly understand it. Jesus was/is both fully man and God.

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      charlie 20 months ago from From Kingdom of God living on Planet earth. between the oceans

      Jesus is the Messiah but He is not God. He is the Son of God. He and the Father are one of the same Spirit just as Christians are supposed to be;

      A Real Christian should be able to say also that if you have seen me you have seen the Father as they have been born again into His image, (unfortunately we do not see such examples)

      Its time those who profess to be Christ followers start rejecting the false catholic doctrines and other doctrines of men being taught in churches of men and study scripture for themselves and let the Holy Spirit reveal the TRUTHS of scripture instead of letting apostate men lead them by the nose.

      Christianity is a PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH CHRIST, not with a pastor or denomination or a building or anything else.

      Christ alone is the head of man. We are to follow Him and the leading of the Holy Spirit, not ANY man.

      Contrary to what is taught in the churches of men, rejecting their FALSE church helps draw one closer to Christ and is NOT rejecting Christ, just the false system built on the pattern that was ended at the cross.

      In other words rejecting the false church and all its man led, man made programs leaves one free to HEAR and FOLLOW the Holy Spirit of God instead of being led by a man-ordained apostate man.

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      CH Elijah Sadaphal 20 months ago from New York, NY

      Your post makes a pressing, timeless point in simple, everyday language that is ridiculously easy to understand. Thank you.

      Certainly, the heretical idea that Jesus isn't God is not new: it is two thousand years old, yet it still has many different labels and permutations in the 21st century.

      As you have plainly pointed out, you can reject the wisdom of a good role model but if you reject Christ, you lose eternal life.