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God vs the Universe: Which One is Our Creator?

Updated on October 1, 2015

Life and the universe have both existed, in one form or another, simultaneously for infinity. We know this because something can't come from nothing. Therefore, everything we know exists today had to have always existed. The question is, does one rule over the other and, if so, which one is it? In other words, is there a living God responsible for our existence, or do we owe our existence to the non-living matter surrounding us, otherwise known as the universe.

The universe can exist without life, but it seems life cannot exist without the universe. According to modern science, the elements that make up all living organisms were created in super novas, neutron star collisions, and red giants. The same can be said about the air we breath, the water we drink, and the land we roam around upon. However, while a seed may depend upon ground, sunlight, and water to bloom, if someone planted it, I think the planter could be better regarded as the ultimate plant's ruler than the elements it depended on to grow. This is not to suggest this had to have been the case with us as well, but that it at least cannot be ruled out as a possibility. How strong of a possibility this is, however, is an issue for debate. Some known aspects regarding life and the universe indicate it's a strong possibility, but other aspects seem to suggest the opposite. I'll start by analyzing the information indicating this was not the case with our existence.

Whether we are the most intelligent life within the universe, or if there is an even more intelligent life somewhere out there, the greatest forms of life within the universe are still immensely dwarfed by the non-living universe surrounding it. The immutable speed of light evidences this. If a living organism resembling a human existed that was larger than the universe, if this organism stretched its arms out in front of its face, it would take eons for it to see its own hands. It would seem ludicrous, therefore, to believe that an organism of such size could possibly exist. While a living God could still rival over the universe's mass by way of intense density, it would still seem rather ridiculous for Him or Her to influence a universe billions of light years in diameter just to ensure that the seeds of life successfully bloom. Given the universe's known speed limit of 186,000 miles per second, how could He or She ever expect to locate the life He or She created in a universe of such size? Even with infinite time in which to do so, it would be like dropping gold dust into the ocean from an airplane, and expecting to thereafter locate it. Such an endeavor would obviously seem a rather pointless task, even for an Omnipotent God. One could speculate that in a world in which our universe is dwarfed physics could differ from the physical laws we know, allowing a God of unimaginable size to exist without inconvenience, but this would depend on sheer speculation. Given the facts of life and the universe as we know them, if a God created us, it seems probable He or She had no intentions of ruling us, or taking a part in our lives. That being said, what would have been the point in ever even creating us? Unless Pandeism views warrant credibility, which I personally doubt, the universe's size indicates we were not created by God.

The other piece of knowledge suggesting it was the universe, rather than God, that created us is our mortality. The non-living universe is immortal, but we are not. Life, and/or the potential therefor, has always and will always exist, but individual organisms always die. Unlike the non-living universe living organisms all have a beginning, and they all have an end. The elements we and other lifeforms borrowed from the universe to maintain temporary consciousness will someday have to be returned to the non-living universe from which they came. Our present knowledge of the aging process of cells provides little hope that this fact can ever be changed. Yet the non-living universe will always exist, in some form or another. If we were the descendants of a God, which would certainly be the case if a God created us, why would the non-living universe possess such an advantage over us? Many people believe in eternal souls, but such belief is strictly theoretical. No good evidence supports it. Based on the facts supported by good evidence as we know them, unless the existence of eternal souls can someday be proven, our mortality is another indication we were not created by God.

Now for the information indicating we do owe our existence to a living God. Firstly, we are not contained by the universe's physical laws. While non-living matter is perpetually dictated by the forces of gravity, the same cannot be said about living organisms, humans in particular. We have demonstrated that we can rebel successfully against the universe's most dominating laws. Although, having sent people into outer space doesn't necessarily mean there isn't an unknown hold the universe still has on us that we can never break free of, with the information we have today it's at least plausible to assume there is nothing the universe can throw at us that we cannot defend ourselves from. We're confident at this phase in our existence that even when the sun becomes too hot for life on Earth to bear, we can successfully migrate elsewhere, and therefore continue our existence. If the non-living universe ruled over us as our creator, this would likely not be the case.

Another piece of knowledge suggesting we are ruled by something other than the non-living universe is our intelligence. We have it, and the non-living universe does not. Given this fact, does it really seem logical to believe that the particles of ground we walk upon are our ancestors? Such a notion has to be enormously difficult to swallow, even for an atheist.

One final piece of knowledge suggesting we were created by a living God, rather than non-living matter is the instinctive will to survive. It's apparent there's more to consciousness than just self-awareness and intelligence. There's also an instinctive drive for survival that indicates a possible, perhaps even probable purpose. It seems all living organisms possess this instinct. Even the tiniest of insects choose to retreat whenever confronted with a threat to their existence. We know it's not taught either, lest babies wouldn't cry immediately after departing from their mother's wombs. Why would this instinct exist if there wasn't a purpose for our existence? And a purpose for our existence would not only indicate, but prove that our creator was an intelligent, living being.

Unless an alternate explanation can someday be provided for the instinctive will to survive that exists in all living organisms, there's simply no other way to explain our existence than to conclude we derived from a living deity. However, since we don't know of any sure purpose for our existence yet, one can't rule out the possibility that such an explanation will someday be proposed. Whether or not we ever will discover a certain purpose lies in the hands of our creator, whoever or whatever that may be.



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      Mel Stewart 

      3 years ago from Western Australia

      Oh yes, I agree, lukemike! Also to consider is that if one connects all the dots, it looks like there have been many whom have been thought of as the one true God who were maybe only kinship redeemers. Then there are the giants o old and stuff and the Annanuki. Basically I think there are many beings that could be thought o as gods, but only one God, He being the collective consciousness of the universe. And then there is the old glass half full/empty cliche, from which I would conclude that I would rather live my life believing that there is a God, only to wake up dead and find that there is not, than live my lie believing there is no God, only to wake up dead and ind that there is. Most would call it being an optimist, but I think it's a no brainer, really ;)

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      3 years ago

      Yeah, that's the point of this article. Thanks for your comment. Natural instincts, like the will to survive, and the will to perfect, (or the will to "power," as Nietzsche put it, although I don't think I agree with that term, as desire for education does not to me exemplify desire for power), are the only aspects of life science can't explain. Thus, they're the last good evidence for God. And I think they're very good evidence because, to be honest, I can't imagine how science ever could explain them as coming from a different means. It's difficult to merely conclude it just is that way either, as any instinctive drive within a conscious entity indicates a purpose, and purpose can only come from another conscious entity. Thus, if we have a purpose, our existence was influenced by another conscious entity, there would be no question about it. However, natural drives only indicate purpose. I can't, unfortunately say with certainty that they prove it. Although science hasn't even come close to refuting this notion, so if you want to believe in God, I can honestly say there's definitely still hope.

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      3 years ago from Darlington, England

      God could have been a being from an advanced alien race who were dying out. He may or may not exist but we were created by something.

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      3 years ago

      I can buy both of suggestions, but if God is the universe, and we're His or Her toys to play with, does that mean all matter in the universe is organic, or did there just always exist an intelligent living deity, and a big mountain of inorganic play dough? Something to think about...

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      Venkatachari M 

      3 years ago from Hyderabad, India

      Interesting discussion. Most of us believe God is the creator. God created us with some purpose. May be he wanted to have some company or toys to play and enjoy with. That is why he created us. Once created, the cycle of birth and death began.

      God created us with the tools of elements of universe like earth, air, water, light and void or sky. Then just like child plays with toys and destroys them, God destroys the creation and again creates freshly. And gives different forms and shapes to them.

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      Mel Stewart 

      3 years ago from Western Australia

      God IS the universe! Or should I say He is the mind of the Universe.


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